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Hell, I'll welcome to inside out. We appear at Piccadilly rail | :00:10. | :00:16. | |
station. A special programme about the future of transport in our | :00:16. | :00:26. | |
region. Tonight: we investigate the safety of commuter trains. | :00:26. | :00:31. | |
It will take an accident before something is done. There is no easy | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
access to their Exits. And we ask if we have fallen out of | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
love with cars. Cars have been the transport story | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
of the last half century. But it might not be the transport story of | :00:47. | :00:57. | |
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If the experts are correct then more of us will leave our cars at | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
home and turn to the train as a way of getting to work in the future. | :01:13. | :01:18. | |
Sounds ideal, the perfect solution. But a survey has revealed that here | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
in the north-west we are the most fed up rail commuters in the | :01:22. | :01:30. | |
country. The investigation uncovered a disturbing issue, | :01:30. | :01:38. | |
asking, just how safe are some of our trains? | :01:38. | :01:48. | |
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On this layout, rail travel is lots of fun. But in reality, this is the | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
way that some people travel to and from work here in the north-west. | :01:57. | :02:06. | |
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Standing room only, jammed together, locking the aisles. A grim prospect. | :02:08. | :02:13. | |
It is pretty much every day. Conditions are crowded. The train | :02:13. | :02:19. | |
is often delayed also. That makes the situation worse. | :02:19. | :02:28. | |
We need more carriages. Standing is the norm, every day. | :02:28. | :02:35. | |
It is like sardines. If the train brakes suddenly, you go flying. | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
People faint because they're too hot. | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
Unlike buses, there is no legal limit on the number of people | :02:42. | :02:52. | |
allowed to stand on a train. These images were taken by a passenger on | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
the north and rail. It runs the biggest commuter train franchise in | :02:56. | :03:01. | |
the region. Every day, thousands use its services. Predictions are | :03:01. | :03:11. | |
correct, more will join them. But will leave him get on the train? -- | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
will they get on the train? This was Rochdale station on a tour bus | :03:16. | :03:26. | |
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16th. Paul White filmed the train. -- 16th October. | :03:29. | :03:36. | |
It was just something I could do to show how bad the conditions where. | :03:36. | :03:42. | |
It is so unsafe to have conditions like that. It will take an accident | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
before something is done. There's just no way out of the train. You | :03:48. | :03:58. | |
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are squashed. There is no easy access to their exit. | :04:01. | :04:07. | |
Northern rail took over the franchise in 2004. They are the | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
largest train operator in the country. They cover 20% of all the | :04:12. | :04:19. | |
United Kingdom's railway stations. But they also run some old stock. | :04:19. | :04:24. | |
Part of the problem is that nobody predicted a huge uptake and that | :04:24. | :04:30. | |
really used in this region. 40% more people use trains since 2004. | :04:30. | :04:34. | |
Existing trains cannot cope and that is causing severe overcrowding | :04:34. | :04:43. | |
every day. Some commuters have had been off. They are using social | :04:43. | :04:49. | |
networks to reveal their experiences. Many put messages out | :04:49. | :04:57. | |
under the head in Northern fail. Tiffany is our clinical scientist | :04:57. | :05:01. | |
at a Manchester hospital. She is a regular commuter and uses her | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
Facebook page to comment Bente -- on her travels from Wigan to | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
Manchester. It is usually overcrowded. I do not look forward | :05:12. | :05:17. | |
to it at the end of a long day. Particularly if you cannot get a | :05:17. | :05:22. | |
seat. If the heating is on and it is overcrowded you can feel faint. | :05:22. | :05:28. | |
There have been several occasions during the summer months when the | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
train has been delayed because an ambulance has had to stop at a | :05:31. | :05:37. | |
station to take somebody from the train who has collapsed. It get a | :05:37. | :05:42. | |
particularly bad at Wigan. There are no seats available. That is | :05:42. | :05:46. | |
when the overcrowding begins and it is particularly bad at then, | :05:46. | :05:52. | |
through to Bolton. If I change train at Salford it is very | :05:52. | :06:02. | |
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difficult to get on the next one along. There is not a lot of room. | :06:04. | :06:06. | |
There are multi- million pound plans to improve the service in the | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
region. That includes the electrification of routes between | :06:11. | :06:16. | |
Liverpool, Manchester, and Preston, and the construction of a new | :06:16. | :06:21. | |
bridge linking routes in Manchester. But the completion of these is many | :06:21. | :06:28. | |
years away. Most people we spoke to want action now. | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
Most of the train companies do not own their rolling-stock. That is | :06:32. | :06:36. | |
because of the way that the franchising system works. They have | :06:36. | :06:42. | |
a franchise for, say, 10 years. The rolling stock has to last at least | :06:42. | :06:48. | |
30, 40 years. So if they do not win the next franchise, what do they do | :06:48. | :06:54. | |
with the rolling stock? So they actually won by leasing companies. | :06:54. | :06:58. | |
There is no doubt we need new trains here in the region. But when | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
the last set of rolling stock was dished out the majority went to the | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
south-east. Can we be cynical and say that decisions were taken based | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
on the Olympics? That would have happened without | :07:10. | :07:16. | |
the Olympics. The South East has 90% of the trains, most of the rest | :07:16. | :07:24. | |
went to Scotland. We got some cast off carriages from elsewhere. But | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
apart from that we haven't had anything for ages. What has turned | :07:30. | :07:35. | |
up have been 30-year-old trains from the Birmingham area. We want | :07:35. | :07:39. | |
decent, fit for purpose trains. That will encourage people to use | :07:39. | :07:46. | |
the railways more. If the trains are not fit for purpose -- our | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
trains. We haven't brought in additional | :07:52. | :07:58. | |
carriages to try and satisfy demand. -- we have brought in. Of course we | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
do not like to see trains that are too busy but we're doing everything | :08:02. | :08:06. | |
we can to resolve that. We're working with the Department of | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
Transport as we approach the end of have a franchise to specify what | :08:10. | :08:16. | |
the next franchise might look like. One interviewee told us that | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
sometimes the trains are so crowded that people have collapsed and | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
ambulances have been called. We understand we have very busy | :08:25. | :08:30. | |
trains, particularly on peak commuter belts. We do everything we | :08:30. | :08:34. | |
can to guarantee our passenger experience is as comfortable as it | :08:34. | :08:37. | |
can be. But when we took a franchise it was envisaged that | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
there would be no growth. Yet there are 40% more passengers. We carry | :08:43. | :08:48. | |
90 million people, some trains are busy. We're trying to bring things | :08:48. | :08:53. | |
back to a more acceptable situation. Historically wide as the north-west | :08:53. | :09:01. | |
at a bad deal regards rolling stock compared with the south-east? | :09:01. | :09:11. | |
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Most of our journeys are short. There are affordability concerns. | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
Overcrowding is not the only concern for commuters here in the | :09:18. | :09:22. | |
north-west. Although rail travel has a mostly excellent safety | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
record there is concern that one type of training is being used here | :09:26. | :09:35. | |
longer than its intended design life. -- one type of train. | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
The new version is something different... | :09:41. | :09:47. | |
Here is the train making its debut journey to Manchester in 1985. A | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
unique experiment welding a bus body and seating to a tree in | :09:51. | :10:00. | |
chassis. -- train. It was designed for rural roots. | :10:00. | :10:05. | |
The idea is that it will be cheap and replace old coaches Wellspring | :10:05. | :10:13. | |
operations back into profit... But the class now makes up one- | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
quarter of all modern rail's rolling stock. As you can see on | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
the journey that I took recently, they are used at peak commuter | :10:21. | :10:26. | |
times and often are overcrowded. They were never designed a intended | :10:26. | :10:33. | |
to be used on such busy routes. Why are so many in operation here | :10:33. | :10:40. | |
and in north-west? About 20% of our trains are, and | :10:40. | :10:45. | |
the operating major conurbations. They were awarded as part of the | :10:45. | :10:49. | |
contract and 2004. So that is the rolling stock that | :10:49. | :10:57. | |
you were handed over? Yes. 600 carriages, about a quarter | :10:57. | :11:03. | |
are the pacer trains. This is what happened to a pacer | :11:04. | :11:13. | |
train in Chester in 1999. It was struck head-on by a virgin surface. | :11:13. | :11:16. | |
It was operated by frost north- western and suffered substantially | :11:16. | :11:22. | |
more damage than the other train. Following the crash safety experts | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
raised serious doubts about the suitability of the train for a busy | :11:25. | :11:32. | |
routes. Fortunately the train was empty at the time of the crash but | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
an accident investigation into the crash worthiness of the trains | :11:34. | :11:38. | |
concluded that the under frame chassis connection was grossly | :11:38. | :11:44. | |
inadequate to withstand impact. A major design weakness. | :11:44. | :11:52. | |
Modifications were recommended to be carried out. This professor from | :11:52. | :11:55. | |
Bolton university is a leading expert in rail carriage crash | :11:55. | :12:01. | |
wordiness. He has serious concerns about what would happen to a pacer | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
if it crashed today for also stop the inside would displace quite a | :12:07. | :12:12. | |
lot. We saw this in an accident with | :12:12. | :12:19. | |
another vehicle. The displacement was about three metres. We should | :12:19. | :12:25. | |
allow only one metre. It is a seriously excessive figure. It | :12:25. | :12:32. | |
poses a danger to occupants. For what will happen is potentially | :12:32. | :12:39. | |
severe injuries or even fatalities. People responsible for public | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
safety on our railways are the Office of Rail Regulation. For the | :12:44. | :12:54. | |
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last few years they have warned The orders of regulation revealed | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
that the trains do not fully meet current national standards for | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
collision protection. But their safety had been approved by other | :13:31. | :13:37. | |
rolling stock. If people are saying these trains | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
were Commission now they would not be allowed to roll out on the track, | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
I think that is essentially what we're saying, they are out there, | :13:45. | :13:49. | |
unacceptable, they would not pass modern standards. So we simply | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
should not take the risk of a fatal collision. Bear in mind that these | :13:55. | :14:00. | |
units are orphan very, very overcrowded. People are standing. | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
If you had a collision you would certainly have a very dramatic and | :14:04. | :14:12. | |
Severe consequence is for. A only a week ago I met with John | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
and described to him that all of our trains meet standards. They are | :14:16. | :14:21. | |
readily maintained and surfaced. Many of their original moving parts | :14:21. | :14:27. | |
have been replaced over the years. Are you not concerned that if they | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
were involved and collision that you have rolling stock which is | :14:30. | :14:37. | |
well past its sell-by date? You would be responsible for that. | :14:37. | :14:40. | |
We maintain the highest of standards. It is a difficult pass | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
to replace all these trains. As an operator we keep the trains running | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
as best as we can, maintaining them to the highest standards and to | :14:49. | :14:58. | |
meet the standards laid down by the Office of Rail Regulation. | :14:58. | :15:00. | |
In September there was a near mass between a train and a car at this | :15:00. | :15:06. | |
level crossing on the Manchester line. The train involved was not a | :15:06. | :15:09. | |
pacer but John is concerned that crowded pacer trains used the same | :15:09. | :15:15. | |
line at peak times. You can see just how fast the trains come | :15:15. | :15:20. | |
through here. The crossing is now closed and safety grounds for the | :15:20. | :15:24. | |
foreseeable future. John is now campaigning for the pacer trains to | :15:24. | :15:34. | |
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be withdrawn from service by The priority is looking at unmanned | :15:39. | :15:47. | |
crossings. We need to look at vulnerable areas of track. Long | :15:47. | :15:53. | |
term, get rid of them altogether, there unsuitable for the 21st | :15:53. | :15:58. | |
century. We asked the Office of Rail | :15:58. | :16:08. | |
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Regulation for their thoughts on This recent rail accident | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
investigation branch reveals that there have been 60 incidents of | :16:40. | :16:45. | |
mechanical failure and in one of those incidents that there you was | :16:45. | :16:52. | |
not detected by the Czechs put in place to do so. -- the Czechs put | :16:52. | :17:02. | |
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in place. The Department of I am concerned because ago on those | :17:21. | :17:27. | |
trains as well and every time I go on them I feel that I am putting my | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
life at risk. I would like something to be done as quickly as | :17:31. | :17:37. | |
possible. It would be great to have proper vehicles which can be safer | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
and will give opportunity for it people to survive their travel. | :17:43. | :17:49. | |
you feel that people are taking their lives into their own hands? | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
They are certainly taking a bigger risk than the think and are being | :17:53. | :17:59. | |
asked to take a bigger risk than the ought to. For some commuters | :17:59. | :18:03. | |
one thing is for certain, for the foreseeable future it is still | :18:03. | :18:11. | |
going to be standing room only. Say on a risk? The irony is after at | :18:11. | :18:16. | |
2019 it is likely they will all have to be withdrawn from service | :18:16. | :18:23. | |
because access requirements for it disabilities, not because of safety. | :18:23. | :18:28. | |
The only chance you will get to see one will be in a model railway by | :18:28. | :18:38. | |
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One reason that trains are overcrowded is because our love | :18:44. | :18:49. | |
affair with cars is dying. Research published today showed that the | :18:49. | :18:57. | |
North West has one of the biggest fall in car usage is. Richard | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
Westcott has been investigating the figures and asking what it means | :19:00. | :19:10. | |
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for those who plan the transport Building roads is controversial. | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
Not building them can be controversial too. So how do | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
planners get it right? How do they decide where to spend our taxes - | :19:17. | :19:23. | |
on road or rail? The only way to ever be sure is to | :19:23. | :19:33. | |
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beam ourselves into the future. And we all know how easy that is. | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
When these fans were watching their favourite series back in the '60s | :19:37. | :19:45. | |
we thought we knew how we would be travelling by 2012. There was talk | :19:45. | :19:50. | |
of having a little personal car that flew. | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
But sci-fi got it wrong, most of us get around now the same way we did | :19:54. | :19:58. | |
50 years ago - having your own jet pack remains a distant dream. | :19:58. | :20:01. | |
And ever since I can remember there has been an assumption the traffic | :20:01. | :20:05. | |
is just going to get worse and worse. After all, we all love our | :20:05. | :20:14. | |
cars don't we? Well, maybe not. In transport | :20:14. | :20:17. | |
circles there is a rumour going round that we are falling out of | :20:17. | :20:25. | |
love with four wheels. They have even given it a name - | :20:26. | :20:31. | |
Peak Car. So what is Peak Car? Well, just | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
look at UK traffic growth in the '60s and '70s when we couldn't get | :20:35. | :20:38. | |
enough cars, but by the '90s the trend was already slowing, and by | :20:38. | :20:48. | |
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about 2002 average mileage per person stalled. What seems to be | :20:52. | :20:57. | |
happening in advanced countries is that traffic growth, and car use, | :20:57. | :21:02. | |
is not going ahead at the same rates that it used to. | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
Well, now Inside out has been given the first piece of in-depth | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
research into Peak Car in the UK and this report is full of | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
surprises. It shows that while some of us are driving more than ever, | :21:11. | :21:14. | |
others are dramatically changing the way we travel. | :21:14. | :21:21. | |
Take young men for example. Now when I was young, I couldn't | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
wait to get my hands on my dad's Mark IV Cortina with reversing | :21:24. | :21:27. | |
lights. Passing your test was seen as a rite of passage, but | :21:27. | :21:37. | |
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apparently that is changing. Market trader Lee Vernon is 19, but | :21:39. | :21:41. | |
he won't be adding to the traffic around Mansfield Nottinghamshire | :21:41. | :21:45. | |
any time soon. He is selling up because he has just been quoted | :21:45. | :21:55. | |
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�2,800 to insure his three-wheeler. I love it, it is a classic car and | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
it is rare. But the insurance is too much and I cannot afford it. | :22:05. | :22:08. | |
The research shows Lee is not alone. Young men are driving 2,000 miles a | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
year less than they were in 1995. Women though, young and old, are | :22:12. | :22:22. | |
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actually driving more than they used to. So what is going on? | :22:24. | :22:28. | |
change in attitude is people giving up and people using phones and | :22:28. | :22:33. | |
Facebook, sitting around or using public transport, no one cares | :22:33. | :22:42. | |
about cars any more. Young men are not driving so much and that he met | :22:42. | :22:47. | |
in the report. There is a rise in education and insurance costs that | :22:47. | :22:51. | |
could be to blame. But if that trend carries on we will see a lot | :22:51. | :22:57. | |
less car traffic and a loss -- a lot less car ownership as well. | :22:57. | :23:01. | |
So what else has the report found? Well, this is the rainy 7.16am from | :23:01. | :23:04. | |
Warwick Parkway to Marylebone. Over the last 2 years the numbers using | :23:04. | :23:11. | |
this line have gone up by a staggering 40%. | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
And according to the report that is in line with a national trend. | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
Since the mid-'90s the distance the average person travels by rail has | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
soared by more than 60%, the last time the trains were this busy was | :23:21. | :23:31. | |
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during the war. The key growth is business travel in the morning and | :23:33. | :23:39. | |
the other it is leisure travel at weekends. Train travel has become | :23:39. | :23:46. | |
much cheaper. It costs more to travel by it a car or and | :23:46. | :23:52. | |
congestion is increasing. Sitting with a laptop on the train. | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
And of course all those gadgets mean you can now work or play on | :23:56. | :23:58. | |
the move. You can even book your next train ticket. | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
While rail travel is up, especially for business users, company car | :24:01. | :24:04. | |
mileage is down - by 40% between 1995 and 2007, so that is before | :24:04. | :24:13. | |
any recession. Scrapping tax breaks made the | :24:13. | :24:16. | |
difference and it has had a big impact on traffic in London. | :24:16. | :24:19. | |
Despite more people moving to the capital, there are fewer cars. But | :24:19. | :24:22. | |
the report found in the countryside people seem to be driving as much | :24:22. | :24:28. | |
if not more than ever. Of course in big cities you have a lot more | :24:28. | :24:33. | |
options for getting around. Fairfax Hall runs a London company | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
making specialist gin and vodka and thinks he has distilled the perfect | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
formula for company travel. Whenever they need a car or van | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
they book it from a car club and pick it up from a designated | :24:42. | :24:52. | |
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parking space 15 minutes later. Like other small start-up | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
businesses beat will not have a lot of money so we invested everything | :25:03. | :25:10. | |
ourselves. -- we did not have a lot of money. It is relatively low cost | :25:10. | :25:18. | |
to do things this way. It is also flexible and you can drive at 15 | :25:18. | :25:22. | |
minutes' notice. So here is a question, what does | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
all this research mean for the future of cars and the car | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
industry? After all, we have had a bit of a boom recently. | :25:30. | :25:35. | |
The UK is on course to produce more cars than at any time since 1972. | :25:35. | :25:41. | |
But that is not because we are all buying ourselves a new motor. 80% | :25:41. | :25:44. | |
are being exported - these Minis are heading to Asia and South | :25:44. | :25:48. | |
America. Last month in London at the RAC's | :25:48. | :25:51. | |
Future Car Challenge another famous sci-fi face was in no doubt what | :25:51. | :26:01. | |
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the future holds. It is that huge challenge for the car industry at | :26:06. | :26:11. | |
the moment. The car is not coming to an end, it is too useful, but we | :26:11. | :26:18. | |
need to rethink how we used cars. Electric cars are part of that, an | :26:18. | :26:23. | |
electric cart in a city that you do not own makes much more sense. | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
And it is not just the car industry that will be looking at this | :26:27. | :26:29. | |
research. The Department for Transport is planning a major road | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
building programme based on their model that traffic will increase by | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
a 44% increase over the next two decades or so. But what if they | :26:36. | :26:40. | |
have got it wrong? After all since 1989, successive | :26:40. | :26:47. | |
governments have overestimated traffic growth. This is the range | :26:47. | :26:56. | |
of predictions. The red line is what actually happened. Forecasting | :26:56. | :27:03. | |
always has a risk of being wrong. But it takes a rich set of data and | :27:03. | :27:07. | |
insurers that that data is a rigorously analysed. There is a lot | :27:07. | :27:12. | |
of useful things in this research but I am not convinced -- I am not | :27:12. | :27:22. | |
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convinced it is the end all the car. The government points out the UK | :27:22. | :27:26. | |
population is predicted to grow by another 10 million in the next 25 | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
years. And the RAC Foundation who helped fund the report says that | :27:29. | :27:37. | |
means we are still going to need more roads. This is not the end of | :27:37. | :27:42. | |
the car. A lot of the population do not have access to public transport | :27:42. | :27:52. | |
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in the same way. Almost half a century ago when Star | :28:01. | :28:04. | |
Trek started this is what we thought travel in the 23rd century | :28:04. | :28:07. | |
might look like - and it is pure '60s. | :28:07. | :28:10. | |
It just shows how difficult it is to predict the future. But the | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
danger is assuming it will look like an enlarged version of the | :28:13. | :28:16. | |
present. More car traffic has been the transport story of the past 50 | :28:16. | :28:26. | |
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years, it may not be the story of That is all from Piccadilly station | :28:32. | :28:37. | |
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