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died Should politicians vote when they

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have business interests? Thd whole question of the Health Servhce

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reorganisation we've seen is one of the biggest affronts to democracy I

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can remember in my political career. Pitching for patient improvdment `

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how a TV show sparked a whole new way at the NHS. You basically creep

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up the small bowel and you can get good distances and see bit of the

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bowel that previously were inaccessible.

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And how the women of Folkestone started the campaign to force men to

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go to war. The White Feather movement went national. It really

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captured the imagination. Throughout the country men of military age not

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in uniform were being presented with these white feathers.

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I'm Natalie Graham, with untold stories closer to home. Frol all

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around the South East, this is Inside Out.

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Hi, I'm at Baxter's Field in Lewes, the county town and one of the seats

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of local government in East Sussex. Now, you may not know this, but when

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Westminster politicians makd new laws, they are allowed to vote even

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if they have a potential conflict of interest. But are local polhticians

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showing them how things shotld be done?

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Westminster politicians dechded on a new future for the National Health

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Service by passing the Health and Social Care Bill.

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The act offers new opportunhties for private firms to compete for NHS

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business. But many of those same politicians who voted yes to the Act

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had financial and business hnterests that could have benefited from the

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Act. The whole question of the Health Service reorgnaisation that

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we've seen is one of biggest affronts to democracy I can remember

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in my political career. Let's end private finance and privatisation

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with in the NHS! The Health and Social Care Act faced fiercd

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opposition. It prompted angry street protest and revolt. Opponents say it

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is privatisation by the back door. The idea that politicians m`y have

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had a vested interest in pushing through highly controversial

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legislation has angered manx people. Some critics believe some of our own

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MPs and peers in the South Dast had vested interests. Two of thdm with

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strong health interests are Baroness Cumberlege and Baroness Bottomley.

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My Lords, I have listened vdry carefully to the debate... Baroness

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Julia Cumberlege owns a company in Lewes in Sussex called Cumbdrlege

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Eden, formerly Cumberlege Connections. It's a company that

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specialises in training NHS staff. It's in a position to profit from

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the Health and Social Care @ct by giving advice on the political

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implications. The baroness was able to vote on the bill despite the fact

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that she stood to make monex from the changes. But Baroness Ctmberlege

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is not alone. Andrew Robertson is an investigative journalist who has

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spent months researching thdse connections. He found more than 200

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links. They represent every area of the health care chain. They include

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being chairmen of companies that are involved in private finance

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initiatives, partners in thd law firms that seal those deals. They

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are sole owners of companies. They have shares of varying levels in

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those companies and they ard advisors to the front line companies

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running the services. They `re also involved in the recruitment

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companies that are filling hn key individuals into the new NHS and the

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commissioning groups. Did most of these MPs and peers vote on the

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Health and Social Bill? Yes, most of them did. There were a few

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exceptions. Westminster polhticians are allowed to vote even if they

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have a financial interest in the matter before them, as long as they

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have declared that interest. Lord Marland is the former government

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trade envoy and Party Treastrer Well, we have a tradition of

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declaring your interests, ptblishing your interests and it's published on

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the House of Lords website. Every interest you have as a peer, every

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investment you have over ?50,00 , every directorship you are, every

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consultancy you have, is published. In politics, there's one set of

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rules for westminser politicians, but members sitting here in the

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Council Chamber operate unddr a much stricter code of conduct. Local

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councillors are banned from voting if they have a financial interest

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that might be thought to influence their vote and have to leavd the

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chamber for these votes. Sole people think it is time MPs and pedrs

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followed the same rules as local politicians. Councillor Gordon Cowan

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is the leader of the Labour Group on Kent County Council and a County

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Councillor for Dover District Council. To be honest, I didn't

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realise that a Parliament dhd have a different set of rules and that if

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they have a financial interdst they can still vote on that parthcular

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subject or item. This is absolutely totally wrong, and if you wdnt out

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to the public today and askdd them the question, I'm sure it would be

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100% it is wrong. I suppose the argument is, especially as far as

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the Lords go, is that they don't get paid and they have business

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interests anyway. You say the Lords are unpaid but they get quite a

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large allowance for every d`y they are in Parliament. They are getting

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something like ?150 for attdndance. The fact that MPs and peers with

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private interests in health care were able to vote on the he`lth care

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bill has made some local people very angry. We understand that somewhere

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in the region of 200 members of House of Lords and the Housd of

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Commons have past and present ties to private health care industries,

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and that surely consitutues a conflict of interest when you are

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passing legislation on an entity that is supposed to care for the

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welfare of the population of the country. If you have a financial

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interest in the decision at the end of that process, you should not be

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involved in that process. Their disgust is shared by others at

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national level. That's what stinks about this whole thing. That the

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public didn't give their permission, and then it was pushed throtgh

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Parliament by many people who had a vested interest. One of the biggest

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changes under the new act is the creation of Clinical Commissioning

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Groups, where doctors decidd what services to buy with the NHS budget.

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Some of them have had no experience of buying services before, so they

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have needed help. Baroness Cumberlege has been happy to provide

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that help through her company, Cumberlege, Eden Partners. It runs

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training programmes for NHS staff, including GPs managing directors and

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chief executives. Part of their training programme covers politics,

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power and persuasion, a tailored two`day course which the baroness

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herself sometimes oversees. Following Freedom of Inform`tion

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requests, Inside Out has le`rnt that Cumberlege, Eden Partners has made

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thousands in revenue from the new CCGS. CCGs like NHS South E`stern

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Hampshire and NHS Fareham and Gosport. In May this year, the

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baroness' company ran a one`day masterclass for these CCGs called

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Understanding Politics Mastdrclass. The total budget for the evdnt for

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the two CCGs was more than ?12, 00. Another South East peer with

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interests in the health indtstry is Baroness Bottomley of Nettldstone,

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who has an address registerdd in Surrey.

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Baroness Bottomley's links with the private health industry are

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extensive. She is chair of the board of a recruitment company called

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Odgers Berndstson. Several of the newly created Clinical Commhssioning

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Groups have already spent over ?200,000 on recruitment services by

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Odger and Berndtson. In addhtion many key positions in the ndw NHS

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regulator Monitor have been filled using the company at a cost of

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nearly ?200,000. We did invite Baroness Bottomley to

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take part in this film. She declined, and within a few linutes

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of phoning her office, her husband, Peter, also ran in person to say his

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wife would not be taking part. Not all peers are shy about discussing

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the issues around potential conflict of interest. I think most pdople who

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go into vote and debate do this with open, honest and a great de`l of

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integrity and with the future legislation and the British public

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in mind. We cannot sanitise every single thing in life or it doesn't

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become a proper debate. If xou exclude practitioners from the

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debate, it is a date without relevance. Surely there is `

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difference, though, between giving a wonderful contribution to the debate

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and voting on it? Is there not a moment where they might say,

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actually, should not be vothng on this? The great thing is yot

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persuade or you don't. And they have the opportunity to attempt to

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persuade a group of people to vote with them. Or not. And therd may be

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ten, 20 people involved in private health care at the Lords. Ott of a

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potentially voting number of 50 . So it is not really going to m`ke the

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sort of huge impact. Andrew Robertson has made complaints about

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several peers to the Commissioner for standards. One of them was about

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Baroness Cumberlege. For not caring an alliance with price have ``

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PricewaterhouseCoopers, who has won a contract worth more than ?1.6

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million. His complaint was not upheld as the Commissioner said

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there was no need for the B`roness to declare this alliance. Btt Andrew

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Robertson believes even so, the rules need changing. The Baroness

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owns her own company. She moved that company into an alliance to try to

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win contracts to develop thd new Clinical Commissioning Groups that

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were a product of the legislation. She did this as she was vothng and

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debating on the Health and Social Care Bill. Both of the Baronesses'

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were declared and there is no suggestion they breach the rules.

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Aaron is Cumberlege also declined a request for an interview. ``

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Baroness. She said... Have you ever known a polithcian at

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Westminster to step back and say, no, I won't vote on this because my

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financial interests are too close? I think everyday people understand

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their conflicts and decide whether they want to declare them in the

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debate or not. And when I s`y not, I mean not enter into the deb`te.

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There are many debates are do not get involved in because thex have of

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UI might be conflicted and therefore the impact of my argument is not

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strong enough. `` I do not get involved because I have intdrests

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which might be conflicted. Ht is not too close to the bone but it happens

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to be the way I might do thhngs But I am very happy and comfort`ble that

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people come to a debate and we'll make up our minds as we sit and

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listen to people's views and we then vote accordingly. `` we all. The

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Health and Social Care Act was controversial but the rules which

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allow Westminster politicians to decide whether or not they vote and

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whether they have a potenti`l conflict of interest fans the flames

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of that controversy. Reform is not being considered. For Rachel Royce

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reporting... Coming up on Inside Out... The shame

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of receiving the point further during the First World War. When my

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dad walked by, they were waving them as a sign of coward this.

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Well, imagine you work for ` big, bureaucratic establishment `nd

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suddenly have a brilliant idea. What are the chances of turning that idea

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to a reality? Well, at one large organisation in Canterbury, they are

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pretty good. I am on my way to the Kent

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Canterbury Hospital, where today, apart from the usual mix of

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patients, visitors, doctors and nurses, here is somethnig else `

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dragons! Inside the building, there hs a

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waiting room full of people. None are actually ill, but they `re

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feeling a bit sick with nerves. The people waiting are members of staff

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and they are nervous becausd they are about to perform a delicate

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operation. They are going to try and extract thousands of pounds from

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this panel of people. This is a, kind of, NHS version of

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the television show, Dragons' Den. It is called After Dragons' Den and

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the aim is to get the group of Dragons to release funding

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straightaway for projects which could improve patient care `nd,

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possibly, save money. Really nervous. I think the three of

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us are, but I feel so passionate and I really want to do this.

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There are four groups pitchhng today. The first is asking for funds

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to establish a video link bdtween a seminar room and a procedurd room,

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to improve training for endoscopy. We have 21 areas in the Trust which

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use flexible endoscopes. Thdy all need educating in the technhcal

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components and scope handling. Do you think you will be able to

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recruit patients who will engage with this?

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I made a DVD of the patient's journey through endoscopy and we are

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constantly seeking feedback from patients on that. It has bedn very

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positive. Are we still sending those people

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through this process or... The second group wants monids for

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trolleys and monitoring equhpment, so that patients can be seen

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quicker. The aim is that they get sedn once,

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by one team of people. And then in an ideal world, when there `re beds

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available, they can go strahght to a specialist ward, rather than going

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elsewhere first. The third is a doctor who w`nts the

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Dragons to invest in a new HT consultancy service.

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We need to get away from thd myriad spreadsheets that travel around in

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this organisation. We need really nice simple messaging. We nded to be

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able to turn on the phone or iPad, see a screen and be able to see

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immediately what A is likd in real time.

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And bringing up the rear, in more ways than one, is a doctor who wants

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new equipment to diagnose illnesses in the small bowel.

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What you do is you shorten, in a concertina effect, the bowel that is

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behind the balloons and then you begin again. You push through. In By

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going through this push and pull cycle, you basically keep up the

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small bowel and You get good distances and see bits that were

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previously inaccessible. Between them, they are asking for

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?220,000. But is this a rather quirky and unusual way of allocating

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taxpayers money really a good idea? Reaching out to the people who

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deliver the service every d`y, to ask them who would you do it? For us

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to then be able to maybe put something in place and support the

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people putting these things in place I think is a really good idda. They

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have ten minutes to convincd the panel. If they do so, they will be

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presented with the cheque in the gently. You admit spending loney

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CNN, do you worry that some of this could be wasted? We commit the basis

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that the details of the application is then work through with a funding

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director and then we have pdople to make sure that this is followed

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through. At the end, we could then said did actually deliver what we

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thought? The trust has been running the scheme for three years, long

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enough to see the FAQ 's and figures add up. We have seen about ?1

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million worth of projects and we have had about a 100% rate on,

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approaching ?2 million. It depresses the red button and records. One idea

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which has made the big changes digital dictation. Now, pathents

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notes are recorded onto a computer instead of old tape machines. This

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has changed the timing from four weeks ten to four days. The

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secretaries really liked it and the doctors really like it. Inshde the

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game, the ideas have to makd financial sense but also for the

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people on the receiving end. Every side, what difference has m`de to

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the patient? Endoscopy is a camera filming your insides as it passes

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through and recording the information for the patient. It is

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very small. Before this respect the patients had to travel to London to

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be able to be filmed. You h`ve got a light source in front and the camera

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in front which lasts for about 2 hours. It is long enough for it to

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last through the cycle of the digestive tract. It gives us

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something like 2000 pictures. It works for deletions which would not

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be inaccessible with the techniques that we used to have. I can go

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shopping and do all the norlal things instead of lying in bed,

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hooked up to a drip. Another idea is the red man, a very useful visual

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reminder that the patient ndeds help at meal time. I was going in there

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with an idea and the concept. There was no cost benefit that I could

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actually pitch. I ask for ?4,00 for them to be produced. I had heard

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that some patients do not gdt fed because of the shortage of staff.

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The idea is that, they will see that, on a bit of paper, yot do not

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see the passion behind it. @ll four ideas that we filmed all got

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approval. The success of thd scheme seems to have inspired other trusts

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around the country, with many of them know doing something shmilar.

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We look at anything which whll improve the quality of the service

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we provide and anything which then improves the quality of Oz `s an

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organisation. The staff working in the environment feel more motivated

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and feel better about the whole department and the whole process. I

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think it wins much more than just impose showings and pennies.

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Now, imagine the reaction today if women roamed the streets handing out

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white feathers to men who wdre not in the army ` in effect, br`nding

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them cowards. Well, that actually happened at the

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outbreak of World War One ` and it started in Folkestone, as Robin

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Gibson discovered. In the first weeks of World War One,

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groups of women began houndhng young men who had not joined up, handing

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them the potent symbol of a white feather, with the implication that

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they were cowards. You are a coward! Here is a white

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feather! They appeared in the first weeks of

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World War One. Families and friends were joining up and the first news

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of killed and wounded was fhltering back.

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Give them to any chap you sde not in uniform. Give them to those

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dastardly cowards who are not joining up. Let's go!

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It is a piece of controvershal history from Folkestone's p`st. Our

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actors may look and sound qtite young...

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I think they might have been quite happy Like, "Oh, yeah, I will spend

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some time with my mates before I go off and fight for my countrx", but

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they did not realise what they were walking into.

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..but some of these teenagers from two local schools would havd been

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eligible to go to war in 1904. If I had to go, I would be

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terrified, but I think I wotld probably go. I think, in a way, it

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would be worse to stay, bec`use of the pressure that is put on people

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to conform. Was it coincidence? Or was there

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something more to explain how white feather fever began here?

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Folkestone would have been `wash with military uniforms, so ` young

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man in civilian clothes would have stood out like a sore thumb. The

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fashionable Leas was the pl`ce to come looking for them.

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A man in Folkestone who was not in uniform would be out of place and he

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would really have to explain himself, once the white feather

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brigade took up arms. The It was inspired by Admiral Charles Penrose

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Fitzgerald. As a town councillor, he called on

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local women to pressure men to join up. It is said around 30 rallied to

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the idea, giving out white feathers as a symbol of cowardice. The

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following day, a story about this appeared in the Daily Mail `nd, very

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quickly, the whole project of the white feather movement went

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national. It really captured the imagination and, before we knew it,

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throughout the country, men of military age, not in uniforl, were

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being presented with these white feathers.

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Folkestone was more aware of the war than most parts of Britain, because

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it was flooded with troops `nd they could probably glimpse the sights

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and hear the sounds of war `cross the sea, but something else happened

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here in August 1914 that cut very deep.

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Stories of atrocities by thd German army as Belgium was overrun inflamed

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public opinion in Britain. Here in the pages of the Folkestone Herald,

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a report on the first refugdes arriving on ships in Folkestone

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Harbour. All of the spheres seem to be clarified. That is when people

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start volunteering in much greater numbers. And that is when the

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public, who had not seen to be reacting quickly enough really

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exploded. . Workers involved in jobs helping

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with the war effort found themselves targeted by the white feathdr

:25:20.:25:22.

campaign. As a Rochester postman, Albert Budd didn't have to join up

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But he couldn't cope with the jibes of soldiers at a local barr`cks

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As Dad was walking past these young lads who had all been told go and

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fight go and fight they saw this young 19 20`year`old postman walking

:25:34.:25:36.

past thinking, what is he got that we haven't and why hasn't hd joined

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up so they started waving white feathers at him as a sign of

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cowardice. I do not know how long he put up with it for, but it obviously

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was not very long, because he went off and joined up. Some went beyond

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taunting, such as here in London, freer conscientious objectors had to

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take refuge in a local church. The government had to act. The

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national recruitment drive preceded conscription. And silver medals were

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worn by war veterans and essential workers ` physical proof thdy were

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not cowards or shirkers. Some of the major employers,

:26:30.:26:32.

particularly in the South E`st, the dockyards in Chatham, said our men

:26:33.:26:35.

are almost feeling ashamed to walk to work in the mornings, because

:26:36.:26:38.

people are dishing them out with white feathers. We have got to have

:26:39.:26:42.

something to counteract this and they start giving them little

:26:43.:26:43.

badges. There is no record of how m`ny men

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were pushed to fight by the taunt of the white feather and no clte at all

:26:49.:26:52.

as to how many who did sacrhficed their lives for their patriotic

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gesture. . I think it is quhte important to remember the pdople who

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fought and also to remember those who objected. That has come back

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recently. They were quite brave in their own way, for going ag`inst the

:27:11.:27:14.

norm and standing up for wh`t they believed in. So, I think we owe

:27:15.:27:18.

them, as well as we owe the soldiers.

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It is an uncomfortable lesson about how people behave when the famous

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British back is against the wall. It blew up here on the cliffs of Kent

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100 years ago. And to hear incredible storhes about

:27:32.:27:35.

what happened in your area, go to World War One At Home at

:27:36.:27:36.

bbc.co.uk/ww1. Now, if you want any more

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information on tonight's show, you can visit our local Kent or Sussex

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websites. And even watch thd whole show again by clicking on otr

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iPlayer, at bbc.co.uk/insiddout Coming up next week? User rooms for

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addicts in Brighton and Hovd. The former top cop who thinks they

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are an option. It has got to be better that they take their drugs

:28:16.:28:17.

any supervised setting. And the rehab expert who thhnks not.

:28:18.:28:26.

The consumption rooms have totally detracted about a sustainable drug

:28:27.:28:31.

recovery system. Where is the best place to send your

:28:32.:28:39.

child to school? Kent or Sussex We can get people from every social

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class on university. And one needs brain and the other

:28:44.:28:47.

needs brawn, so how is chess boxing spreading to Sussex?

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That is it from us for tonight from Lewes. Thanks for watching `nd see

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