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We discover Kent's most extraordinary island. It is a great

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world. It is full of bones. Whaler, there will be the bones of people.

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You must make sure that you feel that you can take that. OK, thank

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you for the warning! The problems on Southern rail caused

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by the strikes or the franchise? There aren't actually any strikes

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planned for today at all, so this is, you know, a good day.

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And football for females over 50. Most of all, I would say, it is

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going to be exciting and thrilling to walk out onto the pitch and play.

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I'm Natalie Graham McDowell installed Tories I'm Natalie Graham,

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with untold stories closer to home. This is all inside out.

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Hello and welcome to the programme, which this week comes to you from

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the Isle of Sheppey. We start tonight with an extraordinary story,

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one which could come from the pages of a Gothic horror novel. In this

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part of Kent, if you speak to certain people, you will hear tales

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of a mysterious island nearby. Stories which will send a shiver

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down your spine. But could those stories possibly be true? Some

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people may find parts of this film disturbing.

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I've heard stories about this eerie island off the coast of Sheppey.

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So I've had to come here for myself to find out whether the truth

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I'm going to the small harbour town of Queenborough,

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which sits just across the water from this mysterious island.

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When I stopped at the hostelry for the night, I was told that

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Others who were curious about the strange tales from the island.

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They'd heard the story about the hound.

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Yes, the hound with the red death staring eyes.

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They had heard this story that there were bodies

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And people said that the hound had eaten the skulls, you see.

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And they were rowing away into the darkness and the fog.

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And they suddenly hear the sound and they look,

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Scarpered? Scarpered!

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This talk of supernatural devil dogs is obviously just myth.

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But at the end of the day, can you disprove it?

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But there is a more serious claim about the island.

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That it is littered with human remains.

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You want to make sure you are up to it.

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It is a graveyard, it is full of bones.

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Where you look will be bones of people who actually lived.

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And because it's a bone yard, it will have an atmosphere.

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You must make sure that you feel that you can take that.

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An island solely populated by the dead.

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Its story seems to have been handed down from generation to generation.

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And the name of this macabre place is Deadman's Island.

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The locals were keen to prove there was more

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So keen that the very next morning, the Queenborough rowing

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club agreed to take me to Deadman's Island themselves.

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The island is a Site of Special Scientific Interest,

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It's out of bounds for visitors due to the birds that make

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it their home at certain times of the year.

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But we've received permission for a special visit.

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I've arrived at Deadman's Island at what's known

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What I saw will stay with me forever.

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This island was covered with human remains.

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That's definitely a piece of a coffin.

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And that...there are two bones there.

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There's the coffin, Natalie, that's just broken away.

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So you think this has all come from a recent...

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There's rather a large ? it looks like it could be

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A thigh bone and are they some ribs there?

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I hadn't seen everything this island had to offer just yet.

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So here we have, clearly, two pairs of human legs in a wooden box,

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and the rest of the bodies could be under this mud.

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It's exactly what they said we'd find,

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human remains buried 200 years ago now being exposed to the elements

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as nature takes its course over the mud, and this

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is a really strange sight, there can't be anywhere, I'd

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Well, over two centuries ago, the waters around here were a very

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They were home to floating prisons, known as the Prison Hulks.

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They were dark, they looked pretty forbidding, they were meant to.

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The Prison Hulks were former warships stripped of their masts,

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Their gun ports were covered with bars and they were given

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fitting names, like Justitia, Retribution and Captivity.

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A lot of crimes carried the death penalty, but as a way

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of being humane and also to inhabit the colonies, it was decided it

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would be a good idea to transport convicts.

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Also, there wasn't much space in prisons, but -

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and this I think has some effect on the inhabitants

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of Deadman's Island - you tended to find that if people

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were not considered healthy enough to take the voyage to Australia,

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I was going to ask about the kind of crimes

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There were people who picked pockets, including 10-year-olds,

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who'd been sentenced to 15 years' transportation for picking

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So we weren't talking about mass murderers off the cost of Sheppey?

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These were the people who were suffering from the draconian

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And when those prisoners died, they were buried in unmarked graves

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An island which is slowly eroding away.

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Once you start looking, you start to see what might

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This bit of mud, for example, is it me or does that

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I would say that that's a coffin and another next to it that

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This is where you can see the depth of where they were buried.

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Yeah, six feet, pretty much, isn't it?

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They were buried properly and deeply.

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The major problem really was you had a lot of men together or a lot

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of boys together and therefore if an epidemic began to occur then

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it would spread and this was particularly important

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in the early 1830s when Retribution was here, because there

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was the cholera epidemic, and I suspect a lot of the people

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I was joined on my trip by archaeologist Dr Paul Wilkinson,

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who could help me find out more about these remains.

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It's a human pelvic bone of a young male and obviously died from some

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disease ? that's why he's buried here.

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Can you tell that ? we're surmising because of the circumstances?

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Yeah, and I can tell by the bone itself.

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What makes you think that's diseased, the holes in it?

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Probably the holes in it, but also, this particular island was retained

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for the people that died of contagious diseases

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and so the policy was to actually bury them all here so that disease

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couldn't then erupt through the prison ships

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Isn't it extraordinary to think that 200 years ago,

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they were six feet under and now these poor souls are about to be

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They're about to be exposed to the open air, they're

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about to have their bones and their skulls washed

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If there were any skulls, there have been skulls,

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they will go last and they will roll into the water like footballs.

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We've certainly seen some of Deadman's Island's secrets,

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but the longer you spend here looking out across the mud,

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the more you start thinking about the hundreds of other people

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lying beneath the surface who will no doubt be exposed

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over the years to come, and you start wondering as well,

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what kind of society dumped them all here with no name,

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It would be more right if there was a proper memorial to these poor

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souls. These have nothing. They just have an island named

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after them, Deadman's Island. The tide began to rise faster

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than expected, so we had to leave. It seemed as if the island

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didn't want to give up too Well, that was an extraordinary

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place we visited today. It wasn't quite the way some people

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described it for me - it wasn't particularly frightening,

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or didn't seem to be a place For me, it was incredibly

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still and actually quite magical. And I wonder if those myths

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and legends that have grown up over the years have done the inhabitants

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of Deadman's Island a favour, by warning the rest of us away

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and allowing them to rest in peace. And that is certainly a journey I'll

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Out... It's in the back of the net Out... It's in the back of the net

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for the older ladies of Crawley Town.

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Never thought it was going to be me. Very emotional. A few tears. Never

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done anything like lead a football team ever. Feeling very, very proud.

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Now, the strikes as Southern rail have caused passengers nearly a year

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of misery. So why have they gone on so long? Could it all to one days of

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paperRachel Royce reports. It's 8am and rush hour in this

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west Sussex village. Over 750 pupils at St Philip Howard

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catholic school arrive by train. Over 750 pupils at St Philip Howard

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Catholic school arrive by train. The school's site was especially

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chosen because it's close Latecomers can expect a ticking off,

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but for many pupils, being late is becoming

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a regular event. OK, make sure tomorrow

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you're on time. I joined a class of year elevens

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studying for their GCSES. So, first question is, how

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many of you get the train to school? How many of you had problems

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on strike days getting to school? And how many of you have

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problems getting to school I'm showing a reduction

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in the quality of my school work, because not only do I arrive

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five minutes late and have missed some of the lesson,

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but I might get home, it's been an hour and half,

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I'm freezing and I'm just not Obviously, people have been focusing

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on the strikes, and they have caused chaos, but there are -- is there

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more to the problems at Southern? We're going to be looking

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at the franchise. Well, I'm glad you asked that,

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because it's a bit complicated. It used to be that the government

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owned the railway, They thought that could make it more

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competitive and cheaper. Different train operating companies

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competed by a bidding process for the right to operate the trains

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in different areas. It is sealed by a contract on these

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of paper. Usually they make their profit by

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collecting fares from passsengers. If they sell more tickets

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than expected, then If it sells less tickets,

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then it makes less they take a risk. When the government decided

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to offer up the franchise When the government decided

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to offer up the franchise that included Southern,

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they knew it would be Thee were problems of congestion

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in the south est and on top of that, Thee were problems of congestion in

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the south east and on top of that, there was an upcoming ?6.5 billion

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upgrade of London Bridge. Imagine you're living in your house

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and you have it reroofed, new electrics, new plumbing

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new carpets and have the whole place redecorated while you still live

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in it and you get a sense of what the railway had

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to do in London Bridge. While all this was going on,

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it would make it very difficult to attract a railway operator

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who was looking for a profit. So the government decided not

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to offer a normal franchise. Instead, they offered

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a different deal, and it went to Govia ThamesLink railway,

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the parent company of Southern. Instead of Govia getting the fares

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from the passengers, the government gets the fares

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from the pasengers and the government pays

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Govia to run the service, so the difference this makes is,

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unlike normal franchises, Govia isn't taking the risk of not

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selling enough tickets. Regardless of how much money comes

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in, Southern would be paid the same 3% margin, or somewhere around

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there, regardless. So all Southern had to do with it

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their defined targets, and they would get their money. But their

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train service became the worst performing in the country, and that

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was before the strikes even started. It's been a nightmare year

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for commuters, and there have been calls for Govia to be stripped

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of its franchise. David Boyle is a journalist

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and blogger who ha a written a book They need to get the new

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franchising. They have obviously failed, and need someone else.

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The Department for Transport told us it has no plans to strip

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The strikes came about because Southern is introducing

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driver-only operated doors on trains, a job that is usually

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done by conductors. The change has upset the unions.

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The strikes have been going on since April.

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Miss, why is the strike going on so long?

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Well, there's probably more than one reason but some say that special

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franchise we talked about is one of the main reasons

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That's because the company gets paid whether the trains run or not.

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Some people say this has now become a battle not just between the unions

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on one side and the train operating company on the other,

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but say the government is involved, because basically,

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But Nigel says it's not Southern who's forced this battle

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The introduction of driver-operated-only doors

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was insisted upon by the government as part of the franchise

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because they wanted to modernise the railways.

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This has not been a desire by Southern, who stood up

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one morning and said, "I know, let's introduce driver

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"operation and drive it through regardless because we'll

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that and that's what the trains with government that they had to do

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It was a term of the contract with government that they had to do this.

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Every day for many months at Barnham station, there has been huge

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uncertainly ? will trains be delayed or even cancelled?

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There aren't actually any strikes planned for today, so this is a good

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day. She doesn't like sending me

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on my own and she gets a bit The fact that

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driver-only-operated doors was a clause in the franchise

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agreement is not a secret. But it doesn't seem

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to be widely known. The government has not been straight

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about the fact it is involved, because it's a concession which

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it drew up and signed with Southern, who are trying

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to meet their requirements. We asked the Department

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for Transport whether the special franchise has played its part

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in prolonging the strike. To the pupils and staff here,

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the politics don't matter. What counts is getting

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the trains back on track. I don't really mind what the outcome

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is any more. They just have to sort it out. They

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are both being stubborn. They are acting like schoolchildren.

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Rachel Royce reporting. As you get older, you tend to get fewer chances

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to take part in competitive sport, but over in Crawley, one group of

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women have not let their age or their gender stop them.

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A lot of women like to go to Zumba, they like to do dance classes,

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The ideal thing for me is to have a kickabout.

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I've spent a lot of time on the side line supporting my husband,

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supporting my son, supporting my daughter, never had the chance

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myself ? but now it's my time, my time to play football.

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I think it was never thought of us older women doing football.

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I'm 57, it's something that I would positively encourage.

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Carol Bates has been a long-time fan of Crawley Town Football Club.

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One day she saw a tweet from the club's community foundation.

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They were encouraging female footballers to get involved

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The tweet had a hashtag, #ThisGirlCan.

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I thought, OK, this girl can, let me try.

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So I asked what the maximum age was and they said 25.

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Which meant that Carol was 23 years too old to play.

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But instead of leaving it there and going back to the ironing,

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I was a bit disappointed, put one of those emoji sad faces

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and said maybe I can start a group myself.

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Crawley Town Football Club agreed to help if Carol could find

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other women like herself who would take part.

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So she put the word round that there would be a new group at Crawley

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for women over 25... Well over 25.

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Carol got some funding from the English Football League Trust

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And they called themselves... The Crawley Old Girls.

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When we first started, there were 10 of us and it really was...

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We couldn't kick a ball, and then as the weeks progressed,

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other people heard about it, more people came, so a year down

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the line, it's slightly different, in that we're not just coming

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for a bit of fun, we're actually learning things and we're

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Crawley Town became the first football league club

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And teaching them to play football is their head coach Marcus Doyle.

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They won't mind me saying so, they were quite daunted

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They'd just come along to have a kick around, really,

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and I noticed initially there were within this group

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of sort of mad women, there was the potential to see some

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talent there and after a couple of weeks, we sort of ratcheted it up

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a little bit and started to take it a little bit more seriously.

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You have got the talent and the quality. Drive into that space. We

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know we have got the touch. Today, women's football

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is a massively growing sport. And it's not uncommon to see

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young girls playing the game. But when the Crawley Old Girls

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were young girls, they missed out. I'm of a generation that

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missed out on playing football. And to actually get the chance

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to pull on a shirt, go out there, kick a ball around is the best thing

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that's happened to me, best thing. And now it's their head coach

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Marcus Doyle who is facing the challenge of bringing the lost

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generation up to scratch. Do that one for about six or seven

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seconds. Come on, reset! I don't want to say too much

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about him because his head might get But since he's come along,

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he has changed us all. He believes in us, he calls us

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footballers, you are not just, you know, just women playing

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football, you are footballers is what he keeps telling us,

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believe in yourself, Don't say too much, cos he will,

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he'll get too big-headed. In just under a week's time,

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the Crawley Old Girls face their local rivals

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the Lewes Ladies Veterans. OK, so you will be getting changed

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in the first team changing room, all right? The first-team will not be in

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there! It will be their first match

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at the Checkatrade Stadium, the home of Crawley Town

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Football Club. To walk out of that tunnel tonight

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with my Crawley shirt on, it's just going to be

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a dream come true. It's the last training session

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before the big game, and Marcus is about to announce

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the team's new captain. Yeah, shocked to start with,

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very emotional, a few tears, never done anything like lead

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a football team ever. Once you get them into that

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competitive situation, We will meet at the players'

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entrance. Meet there, OK? Tee where is the players' entrance?

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Once you get them into that competitive situation,

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they want to come along and they want to have fun

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and want to enjoy themselves, have a little bit of a giggle

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and what-have-you, but they want to win.

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I don't see them then as women who have come along for a laugh,

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I see them as players that want to win a match.

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Some of the team take the training for the big match very seriously,

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as the rest discovered when they met up for lunch to discuss some

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Me and my friend Sandra popped in for our daily bacon sandwich.

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Hello! Hello! You all right? Three Bacon signees, please. No.

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Jane, who's our captain, refused to serve us

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It wasn't a very healthy lunch, they wanted a bacon sandwich

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and I refused them purely because we've got a very

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And then Dermot, the manager of Crawley Town, walks in,

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Can I have a bacon sandwich, please? There you go.

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..sidles past us and gets himself a bacon sandwich.

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A little bit disappointed, I must say, but then,

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Jane's got our interests at heart, I suppose.

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Last time these two teams met, Lewes won.

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So how do the COGs feel about tonight's Sussex derby?

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We will obviously be going out to win, but it's

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It's about camaraderie at this age, but there's still a little bit

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To put that Crawley Town shirt on and go out,

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us COGs all together, is an absolutely fantastic feeling.

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I think there's going to be a bit of anxiety, but most of all,

:26:45.:26:47.

I would say it is going to be excitement and thrilling to walk out

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I'm incredibly proud of what they've achieved.

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The game flies by and there are goals aplenty.

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So how did the COGS do in their big derby match?

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The final score was Crawley Old Girls, 1,

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Lewes Ladies Veterans... 4.

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But after such a crushing defeat, the mood is still high.

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Good stuff, well done. Go and have a glass of wine.

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I don't even care, the fact that all these women are playing

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Brilliant, I couldn't ask any more of our girls.

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Win, lose or draw as a COG, we're a team, we're a family,

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we enjoy it, it's the best thing we ever do, and I don't

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And it isn't just for young women either.

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Brilliant! Where do I sign? Now, for more information about the

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I'm really sorry it's gone wrong, but we will sort it out.

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And why winter is a great time to find your way around the

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countryside. Winter is actually quite a fun time

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to do it. There are fewer leaves on the trees, so we can look at things

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we can see in summer. That's it for tonight from us. Thank

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