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The London criminal gangs targeting the South East. | 0:00:10 | 0:00:12 | |
Police! | 0:00:12 | 0:00:13 | |
They say a fella just bombed up the alley, | 0:00:13 | 0:00:19 | |
but I went up there and I don't see anyone, mate. | 0:00:19 | 0:00:22 | |
The campaign to protect the Goodwin Sands. | 0:00:22 | 0:00:23 | |
Wrecks are being covered and uncovered all the time. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:26 | |
It is just disrespectful. If it was one of their relations, | 0:00:26 | 0:00:28 | |
they would probably feel the same way we do. | 0:00:28 | 0:00:33 | |
And fake fags on Facebook. | 0:00:33 | 0:00:35 | |
Well, the drop is on. | 0:00:35 | 0:00:37 | |
We have had a message on Facebook telling us to turn up at a leisure | 0:00:37 | 0:00:41 | |
park just outside Tunbridge Wells. | 0:00:41 | 0:00:48 | |
I am Natalie Graham, with untold stories closer to home, | 0:00:48 | 0:00:50 | |
from all round the South East. This is Inside Out. | 0:00:50 | 0:01:00 | |
Hello and welcome to the programme, which this week comes from | 0:01:06 | 0:01:09 | |
Tunbridge Wells. | 0:01:09 | 0:01:12 | |
The National Crime Agency say there is a growing problem | 0:01:12 | 0:01:15 | |
of criminal gangs from London turning their attention to nearby | 0:01:15 | 0:01:18 | |
counties like Kent and East Sussex, finding new markets for their drugs. | 0:01:18 | 0:01:21 | |
Rachel Royce reports. | 0:01:21 | 0:01:31 | |
For Kent Police, tackling gang crime has become a priorty. | 0:01:35 | 0:01:40 | |
Today, they have been called to a burglary they think | 0:01:42 | 0:01:45 | |
might be gang related. | 0:01:45 | 0:01:53 | |
They say a fella just bombed up the alley, | 0:01:53 | 0:01:55 | |
but I went up there and I don't see anyone, mate. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:59 | |
There has been so much gang activity in recent years that Kent Police set | 0:01:59 | 0:02:03 | |
up Operation Jupiter - a specialist team dedicated | 0:02:03 | 0:02:05 | |
to tackling London gang members who think there are easy pickings | 0:02:05 | 0:02:07 | |
to be had in kent. | 0:02:07 | 0:02:09 | |
A couple of days later, there is an Operation Jupiter briefing | 0:02:09 | 0:02:11 | |
at Medway Police Station. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:15 | |
We have been invited to Medway Police Station this morning. | 0:02:15 | 0:02:17 | |
Officers have intelligence about a gang that is operating | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
out of London and Kent. | 0:02:20 | 0:02:21 | |
The plan this morning is three simultaneous raids at two addresses | 0:02:21 | 0:02:23 | |
in London and one in Chatham. | 0:02:23 | 0:02:25 | |
The aim is to disrupt London gangs targeting our community | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
and setting up county lines. | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
The police are calling it county lines crime, | 0:02:29 | 0:02:31 | |
when London gang members set up a supply line to bring drugs | 0:02:31 | 0:02:38 | |
out to the counties. | 0:02:38 | 0:02:40 | |
Drugs have always been taken from large city hubs out | 0:02:40 | 0:02:42 | |
to county market places, but county lines | 0:02:42 | 0:02:44 | |
has really evolved though in the last four or five years, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:47 | |
using runners on behalf of urban street gangs, exploiting young | 0:02:47 | 0:02:49 | |
and vulnerable people to move drugs | 0:02:49 | 0:02:50 | |
and money between the market places and, most important, in terms | 0:02:50 | 0:02:54 | |
of what is different, using a mobile phone | 0:02:54 | 0:02:57 | |
as a branded marketing line and really high levels of quite | 0:02:57 | 0:03:00 | |
extreme violence and exploitation of young and vulnerable people. | 0:03:00 | 0:03:06 | |
Today, Kent Police are going after the root | 0:03:08 | 0:03:10 | |
of the problem, to the heart of London. | 0:03:10 | 0:03:13 | |
Operation Jupiter is taking place with the help of intelligence | 0:03:13 | 0:03:15 | |
from the Met Police. | 0:03:15 | 0:03:18 | |
The gangs mainly sell crack cocaine and heroin | 0:03:18 | 0:03:20 | |
and with that comes violence. | 0:03:20 | 0:03:23 | |
What we do see over months are scenarios where firearms | 0:03:23 | 0:03:30 | |
are threatened or discharged, knives are wielded, people are stabbed, | 0:03:30 | 0:03:32 | |
young people are being kidnapped and held against their will. | 0:03:32 | 0:03:38 | |
That is the sort of thing that happened to Fiona, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
not her real name, when she was just 15. | 0:03:40 | 0:03:43 | |
She told us she was busking on the street in Tunbridge wells | 0:03:43 | 0:03:46 | |
when she was approached by a stranger. | 0:03:46 | 0:03:49 | |
I remember it like it was yesterday meeting the bloke | 0:03:49 | 0:03:51 | |
who did what he did to me. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:57 | |
I was sitting busking outside M in town. | 0:03:57 | 0:04:04 | |
After inviting her to his flat he would not let her leave, | 0:04:04 | 0:04:07 | |
holding against her will. | 0:04:07 | 0:04:08 | |
He injected her with heroin several times a day. | 0:04:08 | 0:04:10 | |
She became addicted and went on to sell drugs for a county line. | 0:04:10 | 0:04:19 | |
And who were your customers? | 0:04:19 | 0:04:20 | |
Who were you selling to in Tunbridge Wells? | 0:04:20 | 0:04:22 | |
Oh, everyone, just literally. Next to Chaybeate Spring, | 0:04:22 | 0:04:26 | |
In Kent, a high-speed chase by road police officers who have have been | 0:04:26 | 0:04:30 | |
seconded to Operation Jupiter for the day. | 0:04:30 | 0:04:36 | |
Their mission to stop and search suspected drug dealers | 0:04:36 | 0:04:38 | |
coming out from London. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
They have their burn phones that they do all their dealing from. | 0:04:42 | 0:04:45 | |
That will be those just chucked in the glove compartment, just | 0:04:45 | 0:04:48 | |
there. | 0:04:48 | 0:04:54 | |
Kent Police say there are 350 gang members working | 0:04:54 | 0:04:56 | |
in North Kent right now. | 0:04:56 | 0:04:58 | |
But how do the gang members in London set up the contacts | 0:04:58 | 0:05:00 | |
for selling drugs in Kent? | 0:05:01 | 0:05:02 | |
Professor Erin Sanders McDonagh of Kent University has interviewed | 0:05:02 | 0:05:04 | |
over 100 young offenders and London gang members. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:07 | |
Most of them were involved in county lines, | 0:05:07 | 0:05:17 | |
So they might make over a house that is being squatted or they might | 0:05:17 | 0:05:21 | |
move in with someone who is taking drugs, | 0:05:21 | 0:05:22 | |
then take over that house. | 0:05:23 | 0:05:24 | |
That person might stay in the house or be removed | 0:05:24 | 0:05:26 | |
from the house, at some point. | 0:05:26 | 0:05:28 | |
Essentially once they are in, they take over that house | 0:05:28 | 0:05:30 | |
and start to run the line. | 0:05:30 | 0:05:31 | |
Taking over someone else s home to sell drugs is known | 0:05:31 | 0:05:34 | |
by the police as "cuckooing". | 0:05:34 | 0:05:35 | |
It happened here in Rusthall, on the outskirts of Tunbridge Wells, | 0:05:35 | 0:05:38 | |
in this boarded-up ground floor flat. | 0:05:38 | 0:05:42 | |
Behind us, we have got property | 0:05:42 | 0:05:43 | |
which was subject to cuckooing. | 0:05:43 | 0:05:45 | |
It was a London gang member that came down here. | 0:05:45 | 0:05:48 | |
They were a juvenile and they were taking over | 0:05:48 | 0:05:50 | |
the property and using it to distribute drugs to the | 0:05:50 | 0:05:52 | |
local community. | 0:05:52 | 0:05:57 | |
He was extremely violent | 0:05:57 | 0:05:58 | |
and tried to use a Samurai word against the officers. | 0:05:58 | 0:06:00 | |
Fiona was also the victim of cuckooing. | 0:06:00 | 0:06:07 | |
And they said, if you don t go, then we are going to kill | 0:06:07 | 0:06:10 | |
you or seriously damage you, so we moved in the middle of the night. | 0:06:10 | 0:06:14 | |
Packed up what we could carry and did a runner. | 0:06:14 | 0:06:18 | |
Back with Operation Jupiter, the raid has begun. | 0:06:18 | 0:06:23 | |
Hello, it s the police. Can you open the door, please? | 0:06:23 | 0:06:26 | |
We have got a search warrant. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:35 | |
That raid was not successful, | 0:06:35 | 0:06:36 | |
in that they did not find the man they were looking to arrest. | 0:06:36 | 0:06:39 | |
Just his mother, who was very angry and said he did not live there, | 0:06:39 | 0:06:43 | |
but he had, at one time, put that down as an address where he lived. | 0:06:43 | 0:06:46 | |
But why are the London gangs leaving their home turf, to come | 0:06:46 | 0:06:49 | |
to Kent and Sussex? | 0:06:49 | 0:06:50 | |
London was starting to become saturated for me. | 0:06:50 | 0:06:52 | |
What has happened is that young gang members hav | 0:06:52 | 0:06:57 | |
What has happened is that young gang members have | 0:06:57 | 0:06:59 | |
been entrepreneurial, in a criminal way, | 0:06:59 | 0:07:01 | |
and decided to take what they were doing in London | 0:07:01 | 0:07:03 | |
into a less densely-populated marketplace. | 0:07:03 | 0:07:04 | |
Who are these London gangs? | 0:07:04 | 0:07:05 | |
In London itself, there are many dozens. | 0:07:05 | 0:07:07 | |
Well over 100 urban street gangs. | 0:07:07 | 0:07:09 | |
They tend to be young, black men, very often teenagers into twenties. | 0:07:09 | 0:07:19 | |
Francis Osei-Appiah is a former member of | 0:07:21 | 0:07:22 | |
a notorious Tottenham gang. | 0:07:22 | 0:07:25 | |
He believes the main reason the London gangs are now coming out | 0:07:25 | 0:07:28 | |
to our region is they think they can avoid arrest. | 0:07:28 | 0:07:33 | |
The gang member thinks the police force don t know them, | 0:07:33 | 0:07:36 | |
so they can go under the radar and can tap into that market, | 0:07:36 | 0:07:39 | |
use their young people and start delivering drugs, | 0:07:39 | 0:07:44 | |
whereas in London, the Met Police are hot | 0:07:44 | 0:07:46 | |
on their heels and know what they up to. | 0:07:46 | 0:07:51 | |
Francis was jailed for nine years for his part in the kidnapping | 0:07:51 | 0:07:53 | |
and torture of two men. | 0:07:53 | 0:07:56 | |
I asked him how he got involved in the gang in the first place. | 0:07:56 | 0:08:00 | |
I was groomed with gifts and money and trainers and designer clothing | 0:08:00 | 0:08:03 | |
jewellery, until I became succeptible to the gang | 0:08:03 | 0:08:05 | |
and I joined it. | 0:08:05 | 0:08:12 | |
Frances had just finished his GCSEs when he was recruited. | 0:08:12 | 0:08:15 | |
The National Crime Agency reports that there is | 0:08:15 | 0:08:17 | |
widespread exploitation of children, who are enticed into gangs. | 0:08:17 | 0:08:23 | |
When we published our report in 2016, we cited the youngest age | 0:08:23 | 0:08:26 | |
for exploitation that we had encountered, | 0:08:26 | 0:08:33 | |
and that was cited twice by the police. | 0:08:33 | 0:08:35 | |
It wwas 12. | 0:08:35 | 0:08:36 | |
It was 12. | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
In Tunbridge Wells, the common has been the site | 0:08:42 | 0:08:44 | |
of arrests for drug dealing by London gang members. | 0:08:44 | 0:08:47 | |
We have had a few arrests here linked to the gang activity. | 0:08:47 | 0:08:50 | |
The youngest gang member arrested in Tunbridge Wells so far was | 0:08:50 | 0:08:52 | |
just 15. | 0:08:52 | 0:08:53 | |
He was the one with the Samurai sword. | 0:08:53 | 0:08:55 | |
Chief inspector Dave Pate says gangs now use a particularly | 0:08:55 | 0:08:58 | |
vicious method of controlling their younger members. | 0:08:58 | 0:08:59 | |
We have initiations, where they are stabbed in parts | 0:08:59 | 0:09:02 | |
of their body, to remind them they must do, what they are | 0:09:02 | 0:09:04 | |
told to do for the larger, or the hierarchy, of the gangs. | 0:09:04 | 0:09:07 | |
And you have arrested some young people in Tunbridge Wells who had | 0:09:07 | 0:09:10 | |
these stab wounds? | 0:09:10 | 0:09:11 | |
Yes, we have. | 0:09:11 | 0:09:12 | |
For Fiona and her partner, there was violence when the London | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
drug dealer came for his money and they did not have it. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
I opened the door and he pushed me to the side and I hit my had | 0:09:18 | 0:09:21 | |
on the wall and he said "Where is he?" | 0:09:21 | 0:09:24 | |
They ran up the stairs and I heard a massive crash and a bang, | 0:09:24 | 0:09:27 | |
then they ran out of front door very, very fast. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
I ran up the stairs and my partner was there and he had | 0:09:30 | 0:09:33 | |
a hole in his head. | 0:09:33 | 0:09:34 | |
And it was a hole in his head that turned out to have been caused | 0:09:34 | 0:09:38 | |
by him being hit on the head with a ball and chain, | 0:09:38 | 0:09:41 | |
like, medieval style. | 0:09:41 | 0:09:42 | |
Back with Operation Jupiter, Kent Police are in Chatham. | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
They are dealing with suspects they believe are involved | 0:09:51 | 0:09:53 | |
in selling drugs from London. | 0:09:53 | 0:09:57 | |
Police, stay where you are. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:00 | |
The same thing is happening in Belgravia ? a stone's throw | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
from Buckinham Palace. | 0:10:05 | 0:10:06 | |
Police! | 0:10:06 | 0:10:09 | |
Open the door. | 0:10:15 | 0:10:16 | |
While Kent Police are taking part in operations | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
like this, they are also warning schoolchildren to stay | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
away from the gangs. | 0:10:20 | 0:10:24 | |
Francis receives some police funding to share his experiences. | 0:10:24 | 0:10:26 | |
Stay away from drug dealers and gangs. | 0:10:26 | 0:10:28 | |
You never get what is promised, you live in fear | 0:10:28 | 0:10:30 | |
and the journey or path where you are going to will end | 0:10:30 | 0:10:33 | |
with death or prison. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:38 | |
I asked Fiona what happened to her partner, who was attacked | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
with the ball and chain. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:42 | |
He died with some sort of brain illness. | 0:10:42 | 0:10:44 | |
Quite soon afterwards? | 0:10:44 | 0:10:46 | |
A couple of years after. | 0:10:46 | 0:10:49 | |
So you think possible this London drug dealer actually | 0:10:49 | 0:10:51 | |
killed your partner? | 0:10:51 | 0:10:52 | |
I do. | 0:10:52 | 0:10:53 | |
I firmly believe that. | 0:10:53 | 0:10:56 | |
The London gangs might believe it is easier to carry | 0:10:56 | 0:10:58 | |
out their business outside the capital, but today, Kent | 0:10:58 | 0:11:01 | |
Police are hoping Operation Jupiter will stop their country lines. | 0:11:01 | 0:11:11 | |
Rachel Royce reporting. Coming up on Inside Out. | 0:11:13 | 0:11:15 | |
The sale of counterfeit tobacco on Facebook. | 0:11:15 | 0:11:25 | |
The number of reports coming in about the availability of illicit | 0:11:25 | 0:11:28 | |
tobacco on social media has increased and the intelligence | 0:11:28 | 0:11:30 | |
is probably just the tip of the iceberg. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:34 | |
Out in the English Channel, is a series of sandbanks | 0:11:34 | 0:11:37 | |
called the Goodwin Sands. | 0:11:37 | 0:11:38 | |
They have been a hazard to shipping for centuries, | 0:11:38 | 0:11:40 | |
but some people want them protected. | 0:11:40 | 0:11:43 | |
Yvette Austin explains why. | 0:11:43 | 0:11:48 | |
1940 and the Battle of Britain is raging in the skies | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
above the English Channel. | 0:11:56 | 0:12:01 | |
Flying Officer John-Kerr Wilson is at the controls of a Spitfire. | 0:12:01 | 0:12:06 | |
He is hit by enemy fire and his plane joins others from both | 0:12:06 | 0:12:09 | |
sides in the war that have ditched into the notorious Goodwin Sands. | 0:12:09 | 0:12:17 | |
Today is an emotional one for John Kerr-Wilson s nephew. | 0:12:21 | 0:12:26 | |
He is heading out to the sands for the first time, | 0:12:26 | 0:12:30 | |
to pay his respects to the uncle everyone called Jack. | 0:12:30 | 0:12:35 | |
On a clear sunny day, at low tide, the Goodwins can be seen | 0:12:35 | 0:12:38 | |
shimmering in the distance. | 0:12:38 | 0:12:41 | |
Created by the tides, around five miles out | 0:12:41 | 0:12:42 | |
from where I am here in Deal, the sandbanks extend for some ten | 0:12:42 | 0:12:46 | |
miles long and four miles wide. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:48 | |
As the tide rises, they disappear, becoming a hidden hazard | 0:12:48 | 0:12:51 | |
to ships and their crews. | 0:12:51 | 0:12:57 | |
Below the surface, in the murky waters, | 0:13:00 | 0:13:01 | |
the wreck of a ship, the Rooswijk. | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
Built by the Dutch East India Company, she floundered | 0:13:05 | 0:13:08 | |
and went down in stormy seas in January, 1740. | 0:13:08 | 0:13:09 | |
All 300 lives on board were lost. | 0:13:09 | 0:13:16 | |
Since the first documented wreck of 1298, it is thought there have | 0:13:16 | 0:13:19 | |
been as many as 2,000 shipwrecks, roughly plotted here, | 0:13:19 | 0:13:21 | |
on the Goodwins. | 0:13:21 | 0:13:27 | |
Which is why there is so much resistance to a plan | 0:13:30 | 0:13:35 | |
by Dover Harbour Board to dredge up to 2.5 million cubic metres | 0:13:35 | 0:13:39 | |
of sand from the Goodwins, as part of its rejuvenation | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
of the town s Western Docks. | 0:13:41 | 0:13:46 | |
Campaigners say it would disturb the graves of countless air | 0:13:48 | 0:13:52 | |
and seamen and maybe even damage historic wrecks that | 0:13:52 | 0:13:54 | |
lay undiscovered. | 0:13:55 | 0:14:01 | |
The sand would be used to fill in areas of the current | 0:14:01 | 0:14:04 | |
Western Docks, to create more space to handle cargo. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:08 | |
As the harbour board s own animations show, | 0:14:08 | 0:14:10 | |
there will also be a transformed waterfront, with a new marina, | 0:14:10 | 0:14:12 | |
which it hopes will attract a host of shops, bars, | 0:14:12 | 0:14:15 | |
cafes and restaurants. | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
And they say 99.7% of the Goodwins will remain untouched. | 0:14:18 | 0:14:25 | |
On the journey to the sands, Richard Kerr Wilson | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
remembers his uncle. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
At Cambridge, he went to Pembroke College | 0:14:32 | 0:14:33 | |
and studied engineering. | 0:14:33 | 0:14:35 | |
He was the eldest son and he was destined to take over | 0:14:35 | 0:14:40 | |
the family engineering firm in Liverpool. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:43 | |
But being able to fly a plane, he was commissioned into the air | 0:14:43 | 0:14:46 | |
force when war broke out and he was killed | 0:14:46 | 0:14:48 | |
in action, aged 32. | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
They flew in formation, which was... | 0:14:51 | 0:14:54 | |
Well, they didn t know the rules of the game, | 0:14:54 | 0:14:57 | |
really, at that stage, because, of course, the Luftwaffe | 0:14:57 | 0:15:00 | |
did not fly in formation and they attacked them | 0:15:00 | 0:15:02 | |
and destroyed them. | 0:15:02 | 0:15:05 | |
He is certainly recorded as coming down onto the Goodwins. | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
There are differing opinions, though, as to how much is preserved | 0:15:08 | 0:15:11 | |
in such a hostile environment. | 0:15:11 | 0:15:13 | |
So, I have come to the Ramsgate Maritime Museum - | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
an Aladdin s Cave of artefacts from seafaring history. | 0:15:15 | 0:15:20 | |
And there is a room dedicated to the Goodwin Sands. | 0:15:20 | 0:15:26 | |
The Elizabethans called the Goodwin Sands, | 0:15:26 | 0:15:28 | |
The Ship Swallower . | 0:15:28 | 0:15:29 | |
What happens is, basically, the sand gets washed away | 0:15:29 | 0:15:31 | |
from the bow and the stern with tides and, then, | 0:15:31 | 0:15:37 | |
she either breaks her back or it creates a trench, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
whereby the ship will sink into the trench and keep sinking. | 0:15:41 | 0:15:45 | |
Is there an estimate to how many people over | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
the centuries have died there? | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
Impossible to say. | 0:15:48 | 0:15:58 | |
Is there an estimate to how many people over | 0:16:02 | 0:16:04 | |
the centuries have died there? | 0:16:04 | 0:16:05 | |
Impossible to say. | 0:16:05 | 0:16:11 | |
And salvaging from the Goodwins is a huge undertaking, | 0:16:11 | 0:16:13 | |
as was proven back in 2013, when a German World War II Dornier | 0:16:13 | 0:16:16 | |
bomber, believed to be the last intact example of its type | 0:16:16 | 0:16:19 | |
in the world, was lifted from its resting place in the sand. | 0:16:19 | 0:16:22 | |
It took three years to plan the operation. | 0:16:22 | 0:16:24 | |
At the former RAF Station in Hawkinge, historian | 0:16:24 | 0:16:25 | |
David Brocklehurst has been piecing together the jigsaw | 0:16:25 | 0:16:28 | |
of the Battle of Britain. | 0:16:28 | 0:16:29 | |
There are pieces here from 700 aircraft, along with other wartime | 0:16:29 | 0:16:31 | |
relics and soldiers stories. | 0:16:31 | 0:16:32 | |
David has also compiled a list of airmen and aircraft lost | 0:16:32 | 0:16:35 | |
on the Goodwins in 1940 alone. | 0:16:35 | 0:16:36 | |
There are 60 aircraft and over 70 airmen on the list. | 0:16:36 | 0:16:39 | |
And they all, potentially, could be on the Goodwins ? | 0:16:39 | 0:16:48 | |
And he has strong feelings about Dover Harbour Board s plan. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:50 | |
It is just disrespectful. | 0:16:50 | 0:16:51 | |
If it was one of their relations, they would probably feel | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
the same way as we do but, unfortunately, these days, | 0:16:54 | 0:16:56 | |
it seems to be that money counts. | 0:16:56 | 0:16:59 | |
Because it is a moving bank, wrecks are being covered | 0:16:59 | 0:17:01 | |
and uncovered all the time. | 0:17:01 | 0:17:03 | |
Most of the surveying they keep quoting they are going to do | 0:17:03 | 0:17:12 | |
the aircraft and vessels will be. | 0:17:12 | 0:17:13 | |
And the only time they will be disturbed is, potentially, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
if they dredge that area. | 0:17:16 | 0:17:17 | |
I feel quite emotional, because he was one of four brothers | 0:17:20 | 0:17:25 | |
and I knew all my other uncles reasonably well, so this is | 0:17:25 | 0:17:28 | |
the closest I have ever got to him. | 0:17:28 | 0:17:35 | |
And he was probably guarding the evacuation from Dunkirk, | 0:17:35 | 0:17:43 | |
which was going on at that time, so it is quite evocative | 0:17:43 | 0:17:46 | |
coming out here. | 0:17:46 | 0:17:51 | |
The thought of them dredging when there are so many | 0:17:51 | 0:17:53 | |
lost here is appalling. | 0:17:53 | 0:17:59 | |
So you ve got the South Goodwins, North Goodwins. | 0:18:03 | 0:18:05 | |
That is the Marine Conservation Zone and that red, long, thin strip | 0:18:05 | 0:18:08 | |
is the proposed dredging zone. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:09 | |
Back near Deal, Joanna Thomson s dining room has become | 0:18:09 | 0:18:12 | |
the headquarters of the battle against the dredging plan. | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
A petition has gathered more than 13,000 signatures and her piles | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
of campaign material are constantly growing. | 0:18:19 | 0:18:25 | |
She is not opposed to the harbour board s development, | 0:18:25 | 0:18:27 | |
but just where it wants to get the sand from. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
There is no concern about how the local community might feel | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
about the Goodwins which have very close links with the coast here. | 0:18:33 | 0:18:37 | |
Not once have they actually voiced any concern or sensitivity | 0:18:37 | 0:18:40 | |
about it and, I think, probably underlying that might be | 0:18:40 | 0:18:44 | |
one of the causes why people are just thinking, | 0:18:44 | 0:18:47 | |
"Why should they? Dover Harbour Board says the Goodwins have been | 0:18:47 | 0:18:54 | |
Dover Harbour Board says the Goodwins have been | 0:18:54 | 0:18:56 | |
dredged before on numerous occasions for national infrastructure projects | 0:18:56 | 0:18:58 | |
and they say, this time, it will help ensure the ongoing | 0:18:58 | 0:19:01 | |
resilience of the cross- Channel supply route. | 0:19:01 | 0:19:03 | |
The campaigners believe, though, it involves breaking historic promises. | 0:19:03 | 0:19:05 | |
I have found clippings in the East Kent Mercury, | 0:19:05 | 0:19:07 | |
on their microfiche archive, which says that, in 1976, | 0:19:07 | 0:19:09 | |
it was agreed that they would have a licence for one project only | 0:19:09 | 0:19:12 | |
and it would not precipitate the further taking of sand. | 0:19:12 | 0:19:18 | |
Something else that is concerning the campaigners is how the dredging | 0:19:18 | 0:19:20 | |
might affect wildlife that lives in and around the sands. | 0:19:20 | 0:19:25 | |
The proposed dredge site falls within a recommended | 0:19:25 | 0:19:27 | |
Marine Conservation Zone. | 0:19:27 | 0:19:29 | |
There are 50 such zones around England s coast already designated. | 0:19:29 | 0:19:32 | |
This one is pending government approval. | 0:19:32 | 0:19:37 | |
Well, the proposal is to remove millions of tonnes of sand | 0:19:37 | 0:19:40 | |
and all the life in it, so all of those wonderful creatures | 0:19:40 | 0:19:43 | |
that live within the sand and support the fish, | 0:19:43 | 0:19:45 | |
which support the birds and the seals, would be removed. | 0:19:45 | 0:19:49 | |
And we just do not feel that is appropriate in an area | 0:19:49 | 0:19:52 | |
which is meant to be protected. | 0:19:52 | 0:19:54 | |
Dover Harbour Board has declined an interview, but in a statement, | 0:19:54 | 0:19:57 | |
says the dredge is vital to deliver the sympathetic regeneration | 0:19:57 | 0:19:59 | |
of Dover, awaited for more than 70 years. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:04 | |
It is up to the Government s Marine Management Organisation to decide | 0:20:04 | 0:20:07 | |
whether or not to grant the licence to dredge. | 0:20:07 | 0:20:11 | |
Richard and others in the campaign believe it is down to one thing - | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
whether economic gain is considered more important that letting those | 0:20:14 | 0:20:17 | |
who gave their lives rest in peace. | 0:20:17 | 0:20:21 | |
It is a great honour to be able to actually show some mark of thanks | 0:20:21 | 0:20:24 | |
and gratitude for what they did. | 0:20:24 | 0:20:30 | |
Yvette Austin reporting. | 0:20:41 | 0:20:44 | |
Now, social media is a great way | 0:20:44 | 0:20:46 | |
to communicate with friends, but it is also a new way | 0:20:46 | 0:20:48 | |
for criminals to break the law. | 0:20:48 | 0:20:50 | |
Glen Campbell reports. | 0:20:50 | 0:20:56 | |
Facebook recently launched a new concept in local trading. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
It is called Marketplace and makes buying | 0:20:59 | 0:21:03 | |
and selling goods on its webpage easier. | 0:21:03 | 0:21:10 | |
But we have received a tip-off that there are more questionable | 0:21:10 | 0:21:12 | |
goods being sold on the Marketplace platform. | 0:21:12 | 0:21:14 | |
Goods that would normally be seen being knocked out the back | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
of a white van - cut-price tobacco and cut-price cigarettes, delivered | 0:21:17 | 0:21:20 | |
straight to your doorstep. | 0:21:20 | 0:21:27 | |
I found that the tobacco was a lot coarser. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:29 | |
It wasn t as fine as UK-bought tobacco. | 0:21:29 | 0:21:31 | |
It went dry really quickly, so you couldn t really get a decent | 0:21:31 | 0:21:34 | |
drag on the cigarette with it, at all. | 0:21:34 | 0:21:40 | |
Even using filters, it still tasted quite coarse and quite harsh. | 0:21:40 | 0:21:43 | |
Now, there s no smoke without fire, so we sent the cheap, | 0:21:43 | 0:21:46 | |
harsh-tasting tobacco that our tip-off had bought off | 0:21:46 | 0:21:48 | |
Facebook to be analysed. | 0:21:48 | 0:21:53 | |
Forensic Scientist John Griffin agreed to run some tests for us. | 0:21:53 | 0:21:57 | |
So, we did some analysis on heavy metal content. | 0:21:58 | 0:22:03 | |
We picked on two particular-heavy metals, which are lead and cadmium, | 0:22:03 | 0:22:07 | |
both of which can be uptaken by the plant, | 0:22:07 | 0:22:09 | |
and we certainly found raised levels of both. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
How much more heavy metals in there than should be? | 0:22:12 | 0:22:14 | |
In the case of lead, twice as much. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:17 | |
With cadmium, it was about 30% higher. | 0:22:17 | 0:22:21 | |
From my point of view, the levels in there are raised | 0:22:21 | 0:22:23 | |
and are a potential safety issue. | 0:22:23 | 0:22:26 | |
We are not good as human beings in getting rid of contaminants. | 0:22:26 | 0:22:29 | |
So, the likelihood is you are going to be taking in more | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
of those contaminant metals and they will remain | 0:22:32 | 0:22:34 | |
in your system - in organs, in the brain, in other | 0:22:34 | 0:22:37 | |
organs in the body - and you will not get rid of them. | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
So, over a period of time, there is a bigger potential health risk. | 0:22:40 | 0:22:44 | |
Now, in your view, is this counterfeit or is it real? | 0:22:44 | 0:22:46 | |
What is your take on it? | 0:22:46 | 0:22:49 | |
From our point of view, the tests did not seem to indicate | 0:22:49 | 0:22:52 | |
that it was consistent with a genuine product | 0:22:52 | 0:22:54 | |
so, potentially, counterfeit. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:57 | |
But just how easy is it to get your hands on this | 0:22:57 | 0:23:00 | |
questionable tobacco? | 0:23:00 | 0:23:02 | |
To find out that, we went online and found the seller we had been | 0:23:02 | 0:23:05 | |
tipped off about, touting his wares across the South East, | 0:23:05 | 0:23:09 | |
despite the fact that selling tobacco on Facebook | 0:23:09 | 0:23:11 | |
is against their rules. | 0:23:11 | 0:23:14 | |
After a little instant messaging, I set up a deal. | 0:23:14 | 0:23:19 | |
Well, the drop is on. | 0:23:19 | 0:23:21 | |
We have had a message on Facebook telling us | 0:23:21 | 0:23:23 | |
to turn up at a leisure park just outside Tunbridge Wells. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:27 | |
I have got the cash in my wallet. | 0:23:27 | 0:23:30 | |
Because the seller s price is so cheap, we smell a rat. | 0:23:30 | 0:23:34 | |
Could the goods be stolen or possibly fake? | 0:23:34 | 0:23:37 | |
They said they would meet us here at seven, | 0:23:37 | 0:23:39 | |
so we have to wait around. | 0:23:39 | 0:23:42 | |
I just wanted to find out how big a problem the scale of illicit | 0:23:42 | 0:23:46 | |
tobacco on social media really is. | 0:23:46 | 0:23:48 | |
So, I went to see Kate Pike at the Chartered Trading Standards | 0:23:48 | 0:23:51 | |
Institute, who represent Trading Standards officers | 0:23:51 | 0:23:55 | |
on the frontline in the fight against illicit tobacco. | 0:23:55 | 0:24:00 | |
How much of a problem is this distribution of counterfeit | 0:24:00 | 0:24:03 | |
cigarettes and tobacco using social media like Facebook? | 0:24:03 | 0:24:06 | |
Over the last few years, the number of intelligence reports | 0:24:06 | 0:24:09 | |
coming in around the availability of illicit tobacco on social | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
media has increased. | 0:24:11 | 0:24:16 | |
So now, it s probably around 20% of the reports coming in. | 0:24:16 | 0:24:20 | |
That s a great concern, because you also don t know how much | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
is actually being reported. | 0:24:23 | 0:24:24 | |
The intelligence is probably the tip of the iceberg. | 0:24:24 | 0:24:27 | |
What s the difficulty that the platform of social media | 0:24:27 | 0:24:29 | |
presents to your members? | 0:24:29 | 0:24:32 | |
It makes it harder to catch them, does it? | 0:24:32 | 0:24:35 | |
Very much so and it makes it harder to investigate. | 0:24:35 | 0:24:37 | |
With social media, it is really hard to undo where they actually | 0:24:37 | 0:24:40 | |
are based, so we need to work across borders. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:44 | |
We need to cooperate with each other. | 0:24:44 | 0:24:47 | |
In fact, that is always an issue with trading standards. | 0:24:47 | 0:24:51 | |
Criminals do not stop at local authority borders. | 0:24:51 | 0:24:54 | |
And it is also difficult to find out who they are, | 0:24:54 | 0:24:57 | |
because the criminals are selling tobacco | 0:24:57 | 0:24:58 | |
using fake profiles, to avoid | 0:24:58 | 0:25:02 | |
detection, which is why we have arranged to meet them face-to-face. | 0:25:02 | 0:25:11 | |
Back at the drop-off point, the dealers have arrived | 0:25:11 | 0:25:13 | |
and straight away, there is a bit of confusion. | 0:25:13 | 0:25:16 | |
Oh, did you just bring the 200 Mayfair this time? | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
Why, what else was there? | 0:25:19 | 0:25:20 | |
I thought it was 200 Mayfair and five Amber Leaf. | 0:25:20 | 0:25:25 | |
There has been a bit of a mix-up, in that he has gone back to the boot | 0:25:25 | 0:25:29 | |
of the car, but he has definitely got | 0:25:29 | 0:25:31 | |
the gear, so we should be on. | 0:25:31 | 0:25:33 | |
He obviously had it hidden under his coat, so it is | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
all a bit of a laugh, innit? | 0:25:36 | 0:25:37 | |
When he comes back the confusion continues - | 0:25:37 | 0:25:39 | |
this time over the price. | 0:25:39 | 0:25:42 | |
Whilst he struggled with the maths, I tried | 0:25:45 | 0:25:47 | |
to find out why it was so cheap. | 0:25:47 | 0:25:49 | |
Can I have a quick look? | 0:25:49 | 0:25:50 | |
Where do they come from? | 0:25:50 | 0:25:55 | |
It s, like, Turkish. | 0:25:55 | 0:25:59 | |
They are Turkish. | 0:25:59 | 0:26:00 | |
Oh, OK. | 0:26:00 | 0:26:02 | |
How much do I owe you? | 0:26:02 | 0:26:04 | |
40 for those. | 0:26:04 | 0:26:05 | |
As he went back to the car to fetch our change, | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
we followed him back, to get a better look. | 0:26:08 | 0:26:10 | |
Right, give me the fiver back. | 0:26:10 | 0:26:12 | |
There is that and you keep the change | 0:26:12 | 0:26:14 | |
and we re all happy. | 0:26:14 | 0:26:15 | |
All right mate, cheers. | 0:26:15 | 0:26:16 | |
Can I have a receipt? | 0:26:16 | 0:26:22 | |
And just like that, deal done! | 0:26:22 | 0:26:27 | |
While the lab tests for the the tobacco that our | 0:26:27 | 0:26:29 | |
original source sent us have come back indicating potentially | 0:26:29 | 0:26:31 | |
dangerous levels of heavy metals, what I need to find out | 0:26:31 | 0:26:34 | |
is whether the tobacco and fags that we bought in the car park | 0:26:34 | 0:26:37 | |
are real or not. | 0:26:37 | 0:26:38 | |
And to do that, I have got to send them off | 0:26:38 | 0:26:41 | |
to the original manufacturer, JTI, the company which make the products | 0:26:41 | 0:26:43 | |
that our dealer claims to sell. | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
It did not take long for the results to come back | 0:26:50 | 0:26:53 | |
from the manufacturer's testing centre and, guess what, | 0:26:53 | 0:26:55 | |
the cigarettes and tobacco we bought from our Facebook | 0:26:55 | 0:26:57 | |
seller are counterfeit. | 0:26:57 | 0:27:01 | |
So how are the sellers getting away with trading fake | 0:27:03 | 0:27:05 | |
and, potentially-dangerous, tobacco on Facebook so openly? | 0:27:05 | 0:27:09 | |
Across the country, Trading Standards | 0:27:09 | 0:27:10 | |
have really suffered huge cuts. | 0:27:10 | 0:27:15 | |
Approximately 40% of the officers we had a few | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
years ago have now gone, so we are really struggling | 0:27:18 | 0:27:20 | |
with being able to tackle the number of issues that are facing | 0:27:20 | 0:27:23 | |
Trading Standards. | 0:27:23 | 0:27:24 | |
JTI have also been keeping a close eye on this burgeoning | 0:27:24 | 0:27:27 | |
illicit trade and they told us: Over the past year, | 0:27:27 | 0:27:29 | |
JTI s actions have led to the removal of just under 3,000 | 0:27:29 | 0:27:32 | |
listings relating to the illegal sale of its brands on Facebook. | 0:27:32 | 0:27:42 | |
These products have an estimated street value of over ?400,000. | 0:27:43 | 0:27:49 | |
We contacted Facebook, who told us that when any prohibited activity | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
is reported, they investigate and remove content found to be | 0:27:51 | 0:27:54 | |
in breach of their commerce policy. | 0:27:54 | 0:27:55 | |
They also told us that they have removed the post advertising | 0:27:55 | 0:27:58 | |
the counterfeit cigarettes, for breaking their policy. | 0:27:58 | 0:28:01 | |
However, an identical post from the same person has | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
appeared on a different Facebook buy/sell group. | 0:28:04 | 0:28:07 | |
So, while Trading Standards and Facebook struggle to keep up, | 0:28:07 | 0:28:12 | |
the criminals keep raking in the cash. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
Keep the fiver. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:16 | |
You take that and we are all happy. | 0:28:16 | 0:28:23 | |
If you want to find out more about the programme, | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
go to our live pages on the BBC South East website. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:34 | |
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That is it from this series of Inside Out. | 0:28:40 | 0:28:43 | |
We are back in the autumn. Bye for now. | 0:28:43 | 0:28:48 |