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A Devonport mother travels to Germany to question the company proposing to build a big incinerator in Plymouth. And the story of a marine who lost three limbs in Afghanistan.


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Welcome to Inside Out South West, stories from or where you live.

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Tonight, battle of the burner, one woman's campaign to stop a waste

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incinerator being built in Plymouth. I am afraid I have become a number,

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it is a simple case of not in my backyard -- become a NIMBY.

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The astonishing courage of injured Royal Marine, Mark Ormrod. I get up

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every day and just live my life, because it could have been over in

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an instant. And the fight for Goonhilly. Everybody I have spoken

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to said, yes, go for it, you have to save it, it is a global icon.

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critical bid to launch a new future for Cornwall's space station. I am

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Sam Smith and this is Inside Out 1 Inside Out, we bring you stories

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from close to home, but our first tale is a little too close for some

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of the people in this part of Plymouth. Because there are plans

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to build a waste incinerator just down there, plants which have got

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one local woman really fired up. -- plans which have. That woman is

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Donna Ruiz. She is facing her worst fears. It is like the jaws of hell.

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Donna is furious that an incinerator similar to this is

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planned 500 metres from her home. You are basically building this

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thing in my back garden, and I have no choice, nobody asked for my

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permission. Donna is campaigning against the proposed plan that

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incinerator. Signatures are great, thank you very much. Any bit of

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wind and it will take the dust to you. That's really bad.

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Incineration is not the answer, there has to be a better thing.

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wants the plan abandoned. This is my family, this is the next

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generation. Their children are going to be affected by this

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horrendous incinerator that is on our doorstep. Back in March,

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Devon's council signed a 25 year contract with developer, MVV, but

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the project has not been given planning permission yet. If we can

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make everybody aware of what is happening on their doorstep, I

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think we can win. This is the proposed site, land currently owned

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by the Navy on the edge of Devonport dockyard. This then

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becomes your land again, and our secures own, and your grade one

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fence, is along the southern edge here. The developers want to start

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building it next year. They are determined to win the backing of

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councillors, for what they say is an urgently needed facility. This

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is not a dark satanic mill, it is a very modern, highly controlled

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piece of process equipment that is doing a very valuable job,

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diverting waste away from landfill, where it isn't the right place to

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be. The closest houses would be 62 metres away. On the average day,

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there would be 264 lorry movements, one every 2.5 minutes. That anybody

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could come here and disrupt a whole community, take away our fresher,

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our held off... Our life, really. - our health. The developers says

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such fears are unfounded and it will comply with tough

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environmental standards. It could also supplied the dockyard with

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cheap, steam generated power, which would effectively saved the

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taxpayer �400 million over 25 years. But the price of that is to cite

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the burner in a densely populated area. Dunn and her girls are

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waiting to meet one of the councillors who awarded the

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contract -- Donna and her girls. need to know if he can live with

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the decision that it is going to be built in an area where there are 10

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primary schools. Donna seizes her chance to put her case to

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Councillor Roger Croad. On a nice summer day, children playing in the

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playground, chimneys smoking 1,000 metres from their playground, are

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they safe? I would say that they are. The Health Protection Agency

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have given us the all clear on this. The Environment Agency will look at

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the permit. They will tell us whether this is safe or not. I have

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no question that with the other 400 plants that are in Europe, the

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technology is safe. Councillor Croad agrees to display Macie's

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drawing that counts in all, but Don is not satisfied. -- at County Hall.

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I am not convinced he would be happy for his grandchildren to

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attend a primary-school where the movements of 300 odd lorries are

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happening, yards from their playground. This is happening for

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financial reasons. No health has Dr Dick van Steenis is a retired GP.

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He believes babies living downwind of incinerators face an increased

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risk of dying before their first birthday. His analysis of infant

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mortality data has not been published or checked by experts, it

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is far from conclusive. But he says the figures are worrying. When you

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look at the health data, we have nine different health Parameters

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per electoral ward and in London we have five different maps with five

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different outcomes, and it is the same map for the lot. There is no

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way it could be explained by anything other than incinerators

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causing it. The Health Protection Agency said plants which are well

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run and educated at are not a significant risk. But it is

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planning a study of babies born near incinerators, something that

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Dr van Steenis says he has been suggesting for years. I think they

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are highly embarrassed and it is a good sign they are promising a

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study at least, because it shows they are worried sick. More

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concerned than ever, Croad is on her way to Germany, to see

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incinerator technology for herself. It is the first time she has left

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her children in six years. This is not something I normally do, I am a

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mother, two little girls, we get along with our lives as best as we

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can. I have involved my girls, I am fighting for their life.

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The good girls, and have fun. -- Be Good girls. MVV's sites near

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Leipzig is about twice the size of what is proposed near Plymouth and

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she is chose it -- shown around by the man in charge. Dr Hoffman.

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are very close to the equipment, it seems to be quite big. If you are a

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bit away, it does not seem so big. If you are going to compare it to

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the site in Plymouth, the nearest house is 62 metres, they are very

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close. That is very close. Plymouth, the waste delivery area

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would be enclosed to reduce noise and smell. That was a bit stinky,

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possibly not as bad as I thought. My been day after a fish supper,

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possibly. -- being -- bin collection day. Donna has shown how

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-- is shown how pollutants are removed. We have 1,000 all more of

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these bags. The air is sucked out of the middle. All of the gas that

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has the pollutants we don't want to go into the atmosphere gets stuck

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on the edge of this bag, which is a very efficient materials. The air

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is drawn up, it is very clean now, through a flan and -- a fan and

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taken up the stack. Some gases make it through the filter systems but

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they are monitored to make sure they stay below EU limits. Can I

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ask you to have a look at the stack and tell me what you can see?

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mean nothing coming out of the top? It was a prompted questions.

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assure you there is hot gas coming out of that, and it is very clean.

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These houses are 450 metres from the incinerator. That is the

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distance from Donna's home to the Devonport side. There is a proposed

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planning of an incinerator near where my family and I live in

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England. It is MVV. You live near an incinerator which belongs to MVV.

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Did you ever have any concerns when the proposal went through? No, she

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says. I don't hear anything, I don't smile anything. Do you ever

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freer -- feel you are too close? TRANSLATION: I really need to say,

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we don't notice anything much at all. At the start of her journey,

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Donna was against incineration anywhere. Now she is just against

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it in Devonport. Before this programme, I did not know the word

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NIMBY. I was introduced to it by being on this programme. And I

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didn't want to be seen as a NIMBY. But after being here and seeing the

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site where this incineration plant is, I am afraid I have become a

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NIMBY. It is a simple case of, not in my backyard, because they are

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better sides than the one at Devonport to build this incinerator.

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Back in Plymouth, Donna's girls are waiting with a warm welcome home.

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For the sake of their futures, Donna is unwilling to embrace

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current plans for a burner in her backyard.

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Next, in this week of remembrance, we have the inspiring story of Mark

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Ormrod from Plymouth, a 28-year-old veteran of Afghanistan, who has

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Mark Ormrod is heading to the Commando Training Centre at

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Lympstone in Devon. It is a place where no one that passes through

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ever forgets. Every time you come back, you get the old not in the

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pit of your stomach. When you approached the gates. I think

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everybody goes through it. This is where it all started, this is where

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you went through the pain and the shouting. Learning everything from

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Now this former marine is learning from scratch, all over again. Mark

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Ormrod is a triple amputee, the first to return to the UK from

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Afghanistan. He is back at Lympstone not as a casualty, but as

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a campaigner for a charity he cares passionately about.

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I believe in their mission and what they want to do. I have seen first

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and, one of the most seriously injured going back from a task done,

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how they help. -- coming back from Afghanistan. He works for the Royal

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Marines Association, celebrating its 25th anniversary. He has a

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fantastic sense of humour. I think he makes people realise that no

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matter how bad they think their life might be, it could be an awful

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lot worse. But he is actually The RMA provides welfare support

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not just to serving troops but to veterans of all conflicts. For Mark,

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this anniversary get together means two days of book signing,

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schmoozing and being on his feet. Good morning, how are you doing?

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It's quite a challenge. Around Christmas, I discovered that if I

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it stood on the spot and did not walk around, I got infections in my

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leg. I have not had it since, but I have to be mindful of it. I could

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not stand for many hours without moving around and getting the blood

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pumping it through my legs. And big news back home means he can't even

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let his hair down in traditional commando style. I got to behave, I

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can't drink because might wife is away so I am on call. Mark's life

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changed forever on Christmas Eve 2007. On patrol in Helmand, he was

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blown up by a Taliban IED, an Improvised Explosive Device. His

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recovery was astonishing. start! -- I am stuck! He took

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himself to the US for intensive rehab on prosthetics and just three

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years after losing his limbs, took part in a fundraising run across

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America. Yes! That was it! I can't tell you what I am feeling, I'm so

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proud. And not for Mark an expensively modified car, just a

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3.50 sanding block to line the accelerator up with the break and a

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remote control for his leg. Beep twice. Now it is stark. Now I can

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literally break, accelerate. -- use the brakes. Mark's off to collect

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some VIP guests. The trouble is he's something of a celeb himself.

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I just can't tell you what a privilege it is to meet you. I

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wanted your book, but you had gone. I want you to send it for me.

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problem. I'm going to go to the gate and the right back down.

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we be? Where d one me to be? Best of the today! Did you see that?

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the hall, veterans are gathering to hear Mark's story. He's to speak

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for an hour on his feet. You are surrounded by a bunch of

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testosterone driven men. You don't want to be a let-down to them. I

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don't care how much it hurts to stand up for an hour and do it

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properly. How long have we got? minutes. Many in the audience will

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have their own war story, but Mark's is pretty special. I want to

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get into the prime position myself. -- I detonated and I E D. I was

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like, really? Is this really happening? My adrenalin system

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kicked in and there wasn't much Sean, the commander, I told him to

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shoot me because I did not want to go back without anything. Lucky the

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meat he didn't. The charity needs the boost Mark can give it. Like

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some of the other small military charities, its efforts have been

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somewhat overshadowed by the fundraising giant Help for Heroes.

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But what many people don't realise is that Help for Heroes doesn't

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help heroes injured before 9/11. The British Legion and other

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organisations have veterans from other conflicts and their needs are

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as great as the lads who are being injured today.. Back in the hall,

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Mark describes the pitfalls of being one of that new generation of

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casualties. I seem to have created my own sport out of it while I

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guess it could be called disabled a boxing, all it could come to that.

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I park in a disabled parking spot and people walk past and go, tut

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tut. And then they carry on walking. When I get out of the car and go to

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the cash machine, I go, morning! is an absolute, total inspiration.

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Everything he does, he handles with such aplomb. Nothing is a problem

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to him. The talk went well, but Mark's on the move again. Richie's

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worried he's overdoing it. You can change the resistance in this

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hydraulic. One of the things about Mark is that he pushes himself

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really hard. Which days are you better with? Not that I would admit

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that to him because he would probably sat me! Outside they're

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getting ready for the annual parade. Mark takes a moment to visit a

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memorial to fallen comrades. Humbled, very fortunate and lucky

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to be alive. This is what stops me moaning. This is why I don't get up

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in the morning complaining and why it when I have a sore leg, I don't

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moan about it. I get up every day and live my life. It could have

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Mark is happy to use his remarkable story to help the RMA. Since I have

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worked for them and seeing the good they do and how they help people

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and change their lives, it is my mission to spread the word about

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this organisation and let everyone know how they have supported me.

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The weekend's been a big success. Mark has just one complaint.

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can't wait to tear the sitter off and get back into my scruffy shorts

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and T-shirt! Mark heads home to await the arrival of his new baby.

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His biggest challenge now? I am delighted to say mark is now

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the proud father of a baby boy called Mason.

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It's been a nail-biting week for South West entrepreneurs. Some have

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been celebrating after hearing they'll get millions of pounds

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worth of public funding. But for one iconic south west landmark

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getting such cash could mean the difference of their plans in the

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field of space science lifting off or crash landing back down to Earth.

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Reaching out across the Atlantic and into the skies above. Goonhilly

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Earth Station changed our lives forever. The first live television

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pictures from across the Atlantic were beamed here via satellite. But

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now some of these dishes are destined for the scrapheap.

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everyone has said you have to save it. It is a global icon. It is so

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important to us at the Red Arrows. It is something that we can use for

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the next 50 years. For 30 years, Des Prouse was a BT engineer at

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Goonhilly. When he heard the earth station was to be dismantled he

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made it his ambition to save the site. Then a former colleague came

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up with a vision to bring Goonhilly back to life. I had almost given up

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hope until Ian Jones became a long to meet three years ago with this

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vision of space science and communications with a spacecraft

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going off to Mars and things like this. Suddenly you think, yes,

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there is a real application. People will pay us to use it for those

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purposes and away we go. The future of this site is the hands of Ian

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Jones. He worked here for BT before launching his own successful

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business. He has a vision and cash and is leasing the site from BT.

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These dishes could be adapted to look into deep space and track

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missions to Mars. They've applied for �6 million from the Regional

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Growth Fund and today they're meeting potential business partners.

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We have to move forward with money. We have been working on this for

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three years without money and it is all run on passion. This meeting is

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crucial today. Goonhilly is throwing open its gates to

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potential business partners. To impress the visitors Des and Ian

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want to show the dishes are still working - by getting one them to

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move again. Engineer Edie makes it sound easy. You work out why you

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want the antenna to. So the angles are on the controls the here and

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the antenna will go to that position. But the last time it

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really moved was 25 years ago. And the dishes are showing their age.

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What has happened? It has just stopped. Is there a problem? Yes..

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With the visitors waiting outside it's bad timing, and looks like a

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major setback. But then it comes to life. Is it working? Yes. Above our

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heads, there is an enormous antenna structure looking around the sky.

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You want to go outside and have a look, don't you? With the dishes on

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the move they now hope the funding will flow for a new beginning for

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the earth station. What are your impressions?

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Absolutely amazing. It is back to the old days of out and out

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engineering. Are you one step closer? Absolutely! Four years ago,

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we thought it was the end, but now it is just the beginning of the

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next stage so this is just great to see. Goonhilly has witnessed the

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dawn of the space age beamed live It is one small step for man, one

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giant leap for mankind. Europe saw some of the defining moments of

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history via Goonhilly. It all started even further back in 1962

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with the first satellite television pictures. That is a man's face bore

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stop that is a man's base, there it is! -- a man of's face. Spreading

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the word about plans for Goonhilly. Oxford University along with Leeds

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and Hertfordshire want the dishes to be part of a massive global

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telescope project. There are very few sites in the UK where these

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facilities and dishes exist. There -- they are not being reduced their

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anything so it is a massive opportunity to, rather than build

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your own radio dish, use existing facilities that are perfectly good

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enough to do this, and put them off -- up. It is silly to waste them.

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The visitors are sold on the idea but the team are still in the dark

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over whether the Government will part with �6 million of cash

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funding. The decision is imminent. Monday the 31st of October, the day

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the Government announces the winners and losers of the Regional

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Growth Fund. This has been going on for four-and-a-half, nearly five

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years. We are getting quite anxious about it. They're expecting a phone

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call from Ian with the news. RNAS Yeovilton. -- Goonhilly. I have had

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a look on his website and we are not on the list. I don't know what

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What do you think? Well, not on the list. He didn't say whether it was

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a full list, did he? A So they check for themselves on the

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Government website. The fact that we are not a blur in bold letters

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under south-west is disappointing. Very disappointing. Disappointed

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not to see it there. Very disappointed. It isn't what they

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are expecting Ian calls again. Ian is convinced they are in line for

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some kind of funding. Fine. No, I am not find actually. What is

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happening? OK. Goodbye. This is very interesting. It sounds like he

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was fully expecting to be on that list and they are not on that list

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so he was chasing to find out why they are not on the list. So there

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is still a glimmer of hope of some cash help, and a future for the

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dishes. The place is still here, it has not been demolished and we will

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have to keep going. We will be slower, but we will have to keep

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going. We will not let it get us. And today, a week on, they'd hoped

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for some good news on funding. But for now the sleeping giants of West

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We follow a Devonport mother as she travels to Germany to question the company proposing to build a big incinerator just 500 metres from her home in Plymouth. Sam Smith tells the remarkable story of Mark Ormrod - a marine who lost three limbs in an explosion in Afghanistan.