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Hello from Southampton and welcome to Inside Out. Here's what's coming

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up tonight. The mum and 13-year-old daughter at

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the centre of the teenage contraception row give their first

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TV interview. I was in the lesson and she asked

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me if I was sure if I wanted to go through with it and I said yes.

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Then I had it put in my arm and then I went back to lesson.

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For sex under 16, that's wrong. What next? Abortions in the

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classroom? Booking your dream holiday home

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online, but this time hundreds gets scammed.

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Complete devastation, humiliating as well. They stole your money with

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no intentions of letting you have the holiday.

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Behind-the-scenes with Surrey police in their attempts to catch

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the culprits. To be quite honest, it was just

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greed. They simply just thought that they would be able to take the

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money and that would be the end of And the war detective putting names

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to our unknown soldiers. Two of them have now been

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identified. Both were identified by artefacts, personal artefacts.

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I was shocked. When I first saw that they found his body, it

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suddenly brought World War I right into your front room.

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I'm Jon Cuthill and this is Inside First tonight, she hit the

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headlines when her mum found out she had a contraceptive implant

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fitted at school. The 13-year-old girl from Southampton was at the

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centre of an international debate over contraception and young

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teenagers. Jane Goddard has been to meet them

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for their first television interview.

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I'm 13 and my boyfriend is 13 and we're both in year nine at our

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school. And we're having sex so we wanted to get sorted.

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She's my daughter and she's tried her best to look after her own

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interests and to protect herself from pregnancy. So I'm proud of her

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for doing that, but I'm not happy that she's lost her virginity,

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obviously. The 13-year-old year nine

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schoolgirl from Southampton had a contraceptive implant inserted in

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her arm with a local anaesthetic. It's about the size of a matchstick.

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Manufacturers say it's well over 99% effective and it lasts for

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three years. In our school, we had discussions,

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like, girl groups and they talked about different ways of

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contraception and I found out about it through that and I thought it

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was the best way so I asked for it. What about other methods?

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Condoms are always an option for contraception, but they fail and

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not in young people. I thought the implant was the most effective way.

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As far as I was aware, they were doing sex education, giving out

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condoms and advice and everything else. Not actually doing implants

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at school. That should be down to the doctor, but what they should be

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teaching kids at school is to build a relationship, build trust, but

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sex is going to go on unfortunately. No, I'm not happy about it,

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obviously, but what can I do? Put a chastity belt on her?

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Southampton's long had a problem with teenage pregnancy, so when the

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government introduced a drive to get contraception straight to

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teenage girls, here in Southampton, they took the clinic's into schools.

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We currently deliver sexual health services as part of the health and

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well-being agenda in schools. Nine schools in Southampton. And they

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come into those services and they see a specially trained

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practitioner who undertakes a comprehensive risk assessment and

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works with them to look at whether they're at risk in terms of the

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sexual relationship that they're having.

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Younger people are having sex nowadays. I know adults don't want

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to think that, but they are and I know some of them want to not

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jeopardise their life and they want to get sorted.

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So, last June, without telling mom, the 13-year-old opted for the

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implant. Legally, no-one had to inform her family or her doctor.

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I was in a lesson and the lady came into my class and said, can I

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borrow you? And then we went into a different room and she asked me if

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I was sure I wanted to go through with it. She told me there are some

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risks, but they're not major. I said yes. Then I just had it put in

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my arm and then went back to lessen. All young people need to be assured

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that the services they access are confidential. The law is very clear

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that young people, if they're capable to do so, in consultation

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with the health practitioner have the right to make their own choices

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about the care they access. And it's their choice to do so. I want

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to stress that, in every contact with the young person, they're

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encouraged to share that they visited our services with their

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parents or carers, but it's their choice or decision if they choose

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not to do so. Very angry. They've done it behind

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parents backs, quite meekly, actually. My daughter has done the

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right thing by trying to protect herself on the advice of them, but

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for actually making that life changing decision for a young child,

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that should be made by a family doctor, the parent and not the

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schools. Not in the classroom. Based at the University of

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Southampton, Prof Roger Ingham is a world-renowned academic researching

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the sexual behaviour of teenagers. Southampton has a relatively high

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rate of teenage conceptions. There are big effort to reduce them. We

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know that young people will respond to school-based services and we've

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seen over the last 10 years, the rates have come down quite

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dramatically. The guidelines were established in the House of Lords

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25 years ago so they've been around for a long time. As far as I can

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see, those guidelines were followed in this case to the letter, so

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there's no question of criticising the health service staff, no

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question of criticising the schools for making their premises available

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to the health service to come in and do the job they're trained to

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Mom is also concerned that it's it was so easy to get the implant,

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perhaps not enough emphasis was put on compulsory after-care.

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What they've done is neglect her afterwards. It's interfering with

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her mind, interfering with her body development, what else?

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All young people are offered follow-ups. Young people of that

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age are monitored closely through the services. They would be

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building relationships with the specialist practitioners. We can

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offer appointments, we can't make people keep them. But those young

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people are in our sites. We're aware of them and we'll be

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continuing to provide them with ongoing support.

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I think I regret not speaking to my mum before I had it done. I think

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they should offer to come see us again and check if we're all right.

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They should advise you more to speak to your parents if you can.

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The health and education authorities responsible say they're

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simply taking part in a government strategy. The girl in question

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isn't an isolated case. Last year, across the country, 1700 girls aged

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13 and 14 were fitted with the contraception implant.

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They're exploiting the girls to get the pregnancy rates down. STI's are

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on the increase so without these monthly checks, with chlamydia and

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everything else, who's protecting my daughter? If you're doing

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invasive surgery in school, in school time, then let her get on

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with it knowing that there are side effects.

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There's evidence that young people are having sex, no doubt about it.

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The question is, should you allow them to go on having sex without

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protection or should you try and protect them? Even though, strictly

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peaking, it's illegal. It's a very pragmatic issue. In a sense, I was

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pleased that the system seems to be working and that a young girl who

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has decided to have sex had actually got herself protected

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which was a very sensible and reasonable thing to do.

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For sex under 16, that's wrong. They should be building more of

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that on relationships at school, not doing surgical implants. What

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next? Abortions in the classroom? I do have some regrets of growing

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up, in a way, so young, but I wouldn't change anything, really.

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So you're just happy as long as you're not going to get pregnant?

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In a way, yes. When do you want kids then?

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About when I'm 24 and have got a job and a house. Possibly a husband.

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At this time of year, lots of us are thinking about our holidays.

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Traditionally we'd be booking in places like this, but statistics

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show nowadays more than half of us are braving it and booking our own

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holidays online. Why not? Look at this a villa in Majorca, six

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bedrooms, four bathrooms, stunning views and the private pool. It

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sounds like the perfect holiday. What could possibly go wrong?

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Decided to have a look at some villas on the Internet, searched

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through a couple of websites trying to find a villa that was suitable

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for the three families that were going.

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Unfortunately, Julie fell in love with that dream Majorca villa.

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We chose this particular one which was in Santa Ponsa are in Majorca.

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I contacted the owner through e- mail, she then e-mail me back and

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said, "yes, we can accommodate that," and this was the amounts

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that was the cost of the villa. I think it was around about the total

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of 5700 and something pounds. The villa was owned by Tracy and

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Derren Grant. They weren't travel agents, but I tell you what, they

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definitely had the knack of getting bookings.

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On certain weeks, they had up to 10 parties booked into the villa. So

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it wasn't just a case of making �2750 per week. On one week in

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August, you can times that by 10. Your card number.

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The grants seemed perfectly hospitable and reassuring. They

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would answer any questions about the villa immediately via e-mail

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and phone. Once they'd been paid, that good service stopped.

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I actually transferred money from my bank account to the owner's bank

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account. I heard nothing, nothing at all. So I sent another e-mail

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and I actually said in the e-mail that I was getting worried because

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she'd not responded and it had been, maybe a week since I paid the

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balance. And I still got no response.

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Julie had transferred money to an account at this bank in Farnham. An

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account police were already investigating on behalf of another

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hopeful holidaymaker who also was having trouble contacting the

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Grants. We managed to establish that the

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villa was being marketed on a number of websites and enquiries

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with those websites by one of my colleagues established, in fact,

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those websites had received a number of reports from other people

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all stating that they believed there was a fraud taking place with

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this villa. The Grants were overbooking the

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villa to such a degree that at one point, 12 holidays were scheduled

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in for the same week. What's more, the property wasn't even available.

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They were advertising the villa for holiday bookings knowing that there

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was a tenant in the villa and the villa was not available for hire.

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I had a phone call informing me that the villa was under police

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investigation with the Surrey police and they informed me that

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there was maybe another 16 families that also reported the same thing

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and there was people from Norway, Switzerland, France, all these

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people that had up this particular villa, as well.

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There are all different age ranges from young teenagers that have

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their first group holiday as friends going away, there was a

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party from Sweden and again, a group of girl teenagers going away

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so they didn't get to go to their holiday. In fact, one of those went

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out. And you can imagine, at their age going out on their first

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holiday with all their friends expecting a good time to turn up at

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a villa where it's no longer available.

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Police learned that the money that Julie and others have taken into

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the bank account had long gone. But the investigation team was not

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giving up. Although the account was linked to a bogus address, upon

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closer examination there was a tantalising reference to a cottage

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in Dorset. So the team headed west. Colleagues and myself attended that

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address and spoke to the occupants at that address who turned out to

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be the parents of one of the offenders.

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But the parents denied knowledge of the Grants whereabouts so the

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police began to search the house for clues.

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I seized two diaries from a bedside drawer. Mrs Grant, who at that time

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was I believe 73, became visibly distressed at the fact that I had

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seized these two diaries. In essence, I had a tug of war with

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Mrs Grant over these two diaries where she forcibly tried to remove

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them from my hand. Written in the back of one of the diaries was an

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address. So at the time, we suspected that that was where they

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were living. Meanwhile, Julie had to come to

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terms with her lost holiday and break the news to the other

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families who were travelling with her, that their money had gone.

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Complete devastation. I felt responsible because I book this

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holiday on behalf of the other parties. Humiliating, as well. You

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feel that you have been taken for a ride. They stole your money with no

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intentions of letting you have a holiday and it is a hard lesson to

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The address the police found in the diary led them to a luxury

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farmhouse in Somerset, from where the Grants were running their

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business. The game was up. They must be really stupid people. To

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think they can get away with such a thing. Because in this day and age,

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there's a lot of things traceable. Because they were doing it through

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e-mail, bank account transfers and such, I just don't know how they

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thought they could get away with it. The Grants were arrested on

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suspicion of fraud. Having managed to con hundreds of people out of

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their holidays, they were brought to Guildford police station for

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questioning. Whilst Derren and Tracey had plenty to say about

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their villa to potential customers, to police it was a different matter.

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You are aware, Mr Grant, aren't you, of a number of outstanding debts?

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No comment. You've tried to obtain money fraudulently from these

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holidaymakers, whilst knowing they would not be able to use the

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services of the villa and the facilities there. No comment.

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Mr and Mrs Grant maintained their not guilty plea right up to the day

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of the trial. What right did either of you have

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to fraudulently mislead these people that the villa was available

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for rent? No comment. Mrs Grant was questioned for a number of hours

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and never gave one answer to a single question. No comment.

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She chose, as is her right, of course, to reply "no comment" to

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all the questions put to her. December, at the Crown Court here

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in Guildford, at the 11th hour, the Grants had a change of heart.

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the last minute, pleaded guilty, so the actual trial did not go ahead,

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and then they were sentenced in December. I am glad they didn't get

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away with it in the end. They've been punished. He stated he was

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responsible for sending all of those e-mails, despite them being

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in Tracey's name. Because of that, Mr Grant was sentenced to 27

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months' imprisonment and Tracey Grant, his wife, was sentenced to 9

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months' imprisonment for their part in the fraud. I think, to be quite

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honest, it was just greed. They were living far beyond their means.

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They had no means of employment at the time, and their daughter was

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attending a private school. While the Grants are holidaying at Her

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Majesty's pleasure, it looks like their victims will only ever see a

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fraction of their money back. Meanwhile, there are lessons to be

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learned. To safeguard yourself, I think it is quite difficult in that

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environment. However, there is insurance out there, either through

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your bank account or through these companies that advertise, that

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specifically cover fraud advertising. So if this case

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happens, you are covered by your insurance company. Two to three

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people involved in this case have received their money back through

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their bank account or through this insurance scheme. I'm still in

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shock and disbelief that somebody could actually do that, and to

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think they can actually get away with it. I just don't think they

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realise how hurtful and disappointed people can be. Some of

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the websites offer an insurance policy and when people are booking

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a holiday for something like this, perhaps that is something they need

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to think about, to book the insurance with the website and that

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hopefully will protect them. really would think twice about

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using a private owner again. Although I have used private owners

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previous to this and everything's been OK. I suppose now it is a big

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Finally tonight, imagine getting a call to tell you that the body of

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one of your distant relatives has just been found. Someone, perhaps,

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who died nearly 100 years ago. Making that call is the job of a

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specialist unit with the Ministry Sue Raftree is in London. She's

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trying to find out about some men who died almost 100 years ago in

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northern France. I've come here to see the archivist at the Honourable

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Artillery Company, to discuss the remains of four soldiers that were

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found in Bullecourt in August 2009. These soldiers were killed in the

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First World War. Like many casualties, they were buried by

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their comrades near the battlefield where they died. Identifying them

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won't be easy. The identity discs were blown off the soldiers because

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they were not steel, as they are today. So therefore, it is very

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difficult. But we do establish - and have established in the past -

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personal identification of soldiers. We are very hopeful that this will

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happen in this instance. It's a typical case for Sue, who works for

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the MoD in Gloucestershire. When the remains of servicemen from the

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two world wars are discovered, it's her job to identify them, find

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relatives and arrange a military burial. Today, she is meeting

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regimental archivist Justine Taylor. We actually have a very kind

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volunteer in Antwerp who's compiled a list of Second Battalion members

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who died in the First World War. Justine's been very helpful and

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she's provided the war diary, lots of information, lots of very

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informative books. We know the heights of the four soldiers that

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have been found. I'm very excited. I've got to this stage where we may

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be able to identify somebody. excited, but she knows these things

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take time. Remains of some of the many thousands of war heroes still

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listed as missing, with no known grave, are found each year around

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the world. Some can be easier to identify than others. The wreckage

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of a British bomber's been found in Italy and thanks to detailed flight

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records, Sue knows exactly who was on board.

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BBC London 94.9. Robert Elms, weekdays from midday, and Saturday

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morning. It means another trip to London, this time for a radio

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appeal. Now, I know there's a case you're working on at the moment.

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Tell us a bit about that. About four months ago, a Boston aircraft

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BZ590 was found in Italy. Boston was on a reconnaissance

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mission when it was shot down in 1945, just weeks before the end of

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the war in Europe. The crew, including David Rakes and Alexander

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Bostock, all died. Their relatives have come forward, but Sue needs to

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find one other family. One that we need to find now is Flight Sgt

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David Millard-Perkins' family. that's why you're here today,

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because we might just be able to help. Sue will have to wait to see

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if anyone gets in touch, but when families do, they usually want to

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know much more. She's in Wiltshire, meeting relatives of a soldier

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whose remains have been found in the Midlands. -- Netherlands.

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to meet you. I'm June. And they've turned out in their numbers. For

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them, this is all about finding out what happened to the man who was

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lost but not forgotten. Right, then, well, thank you very much for

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coming today. I know you've come from a long way and I appreciate it

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very much. He was my gran's brother and she talked about him all the

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time. I was really little then. She died when I was about 10. But

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that's how I remember him. Being really important in her life,

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really. But it always felt like he was... You know, like I knew him. I

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still call him Uncle Lewis, you know? Even though he was my Great

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Uncle Lewis. Lewis Curtis from Cornwall was a member of the

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Wiltshire Regiment. He died in October 1944. His battalion had

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been advancing through Holland, but met fierce resistance from the

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Germans. Today, his family are learning about where he was

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discovered, and plans for his burial. So we are effectively

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looking at the first available opportunity being July onwards.

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There is a lot to take in, and if you just slowly absorb it, that's

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lovely. It certainly is a lot to take in. But for everyone, it has

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been a poignant day. This whole thing has been very emotional for

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all of us. Today has brought all of us together, as a family, you know?

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And we were saying that we very rarely get to get together these

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days. I feel very honoured to have met such a marvellous family, and

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to be part of such an exciting adventure that we're going to go on

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and that in the end, we can have closure for this family.

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One family close to getting that final closure. But what about Sue's

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other cases? It's now several weeks since her meeting with the

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regimental archivist in London about those First World War

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soldiers. So is there any news? Bullecourt, yes, we've done some

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more research with the archivist, and two of them have now been

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identified. Both were identified by artefacts - personal artefacts.

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Two soldiers identified, and now begins the task of tracking down

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the families. And that's not easy, as Sue is finding out on the Boston

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Bomber case. Unfortunately, that radio appeal hasn't had the impact

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she'd hoped. Regrettably, there were no callers regarding the

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identification of the family for Perkins, however we've now gone to

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the Commonwealth War Graves. They've put it on their website and

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we are now trying to trace him through other means.

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When Sue does manage to complete a case, it often ends a mystery that

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has haunted families for years. When Edward Hartley was killed, his

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loved ones knew he had died, but very little else. I think my mother

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must always have wondered what happened to Edward. He would have

:24:55.:24:58.

perhaps been the love of her life, so she must have wondered all the

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rest of her life - she lived to be 86 - what has happened to him.

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Lance Sgt Hartley died at Arnhem in Holland, during Operation Market

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Garden, the unsuccessful attempt by the Allies to force their way into

:25:11.:25:21.
:25:21.:25:21.

Germany in 1944. His remains were identified seven years ago. Sue

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traced his daughter and she was guest of honour at a rededication

:25:24.:25:34.
:25:34.:25:43.

It was really emotional. I think the kind of occasion where all the

:25:43.:25:50.

hairs stand up on the back of your neck. And you want to cry, as well,

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really. It was really very, very special. Probably one of the best

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days of my life. Yes, it was one of the best days of my life.

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So, Sue's work can end up meaning so much to the families these men

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left behind. She's back on the road again - this time in Hampshire. The

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relatives of one of the First World War soldiers has been in touch.

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family actually found me through the Great War Forum. They were

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looking at the website and came across that we were trying to trace

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the relatives of Capt Prichard. They contacted me, because I have a

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lot to do with the Great War Forum. It was very fortuitous that they

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were looking at that time. Hello, nice to meet you. Come in.

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We are pleased to see you. I can only remember as a very young boy...

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Londoner John Prichard died in May 1917. He was defending a position

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near the village of Bullecourt in northern France. His company was

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almost completely wiped out in the attack. 95 years on, his family

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were amazed to discover his remains had been found. I was shocked. When

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I first saw that they had found his body, it was a complete shock. And

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then I was ecstatic that we were very happy about that. I thought,

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"I can't wait to tell the rest of the family". And, as my daughter

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says, it makes it really real. It has suddenly brought World War I

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right into your front room. You have a personal connection with it.

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And we feel incredibly honoured, as a family. We will be the people

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that finally lay this captain to rest. Another case drawing to a

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close. And there's good news on the Boston Bomber crew man, too. David

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Perkins' family has been in touch. Sue also hopes to start arranging

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his burial soon. It's very frustrating at times, because the

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work has to be very thoroughly investigated. There's only a team

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of two - my colleague and I - and we both find it very rewarding.

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:28:18.:28:18.

It's an honour and a privilege to And that's just about all we've got

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time for. I'll see you next week. Me, Jamie, Lexus and Caley sleep on

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that dining room bit there. Children in poverty - the families

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coping on the breadline in 2012. this was another part of the world,

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the aid trucks would be heading out. But because it is our world, we

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