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Hallow, and welcome to Inside Out. On tonight programme: a pig farmer

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near Burton-on-Trent, some say it is a price not worth paying. Does

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the world really need more cheap meat? Is that the right direction?

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De you love your local roundabout? People here are fighting to keep

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theirs. I will chain myself to this roundabout until the bulldozers go

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away. As a new wave of Irish emigrants come to Birmingham, will

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they get a better welcome than they had 60 years ago? It said no Irish,

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No Blacks, No children. This is Inside Out for the Midlands.

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British pork producers said they cannot compete with cheaper imports

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from countries like Denmark, but now this Burton-on-Trent company

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says it has an answer to house more than 25,000 pigs. The plant has

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outraged some. We believe what we are doing is

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high welfare, getting the best possible standards we can. It isn't

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right for a pig to live its whole life without feeding the Sun on its

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back, or -- without having his nose in the ground. We were losing over

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�1 million a year two years ago when the pig industry was in a dire

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place. People are going to have to say this is going too far. Two pig

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farmers with opposing views. This man is planning a second

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agricultural revolution making bigger profits and providing

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cheaper meat. This farmer runs an organic farm, he is appalled by

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this brave new farming world. is a big difference. I agreed, but

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there is a big cast in that method of farming. The plan to have more

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than 25,000 pigs at this farm has led to a series of angry

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demonstrations. Several well-known faces have added their faces to the

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protest. I think it's barbaric, and really we should be creating more

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humane farming, and more sustainable farming practice.

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the world really need more cheaper meat? Do we want to be producing

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huge volumes of cheaper meat? Is that the writer direction of

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travel? Everything that's happening to our help would suggest otherwise.

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-- health. A room with a view, a rumour that this woman fears will

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be blighted by the application for the pig farm opposite, if it is

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approved. People say not in my backyard, but this really is in my

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backyard. Her son Tom suffers from a weak heart, he's worried that

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thousands of pigs will bring additional hazards to his already

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frail health. Having just come out of hospital, I'm not wanting to get

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diseases, I'm very susceptible to it, and anything could be quite

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serious to my heart. Can you guarantee to the people living next

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door that they will be no spread of disease? There will be no spread of

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disease, with regards to they won't be giving out -- with regard to

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disease, can they guarantee there will not give our pigs any disease?

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There will be far less problems than the units already in the

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village. These large pig farms and large dairies are new developments,

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the disease is associate with them, and the risks -- the diseases

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associated with them and the risks are fairly new. We cannot tell

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people if they will get sick. They cannot be certain that they won't.

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This man runs a farm of about half the number of pigs, but his animals

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are outdoors, and there were few objections. He is not against

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indoor farming, and sees roles of both. I firmly believe that this is

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the way I want to farm. The pigs have a lot of acres, they are

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running around, the piglets are running around. They have lots of

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fresh face and there -- they have lots of fresh air and space.

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this farmer, where there is Marc Emmers brass. The waste from these

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pigs provides energy, he likens this new farm to way modern luxury

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hotel for pigs. Comfortable, spacious and green. This system

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will not produce a smell. If he does, we will be shut down. This

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town has a women's prison, and the farm will be like a second

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according to local residents. have lived in the countryside or my

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life, I have no problem with farming. I don't see this as

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farming, this is industrial. year ago a dairy farm with Dewar

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plan to build a "super farm" after months of protests and

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demonstrations. Farms like this are commonplace in the United States,

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they usually much bigger than anything found here. This woman

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says that "super farm" buildings are too big for their size.

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pigs going out to grass, they are euphoric. In large tell you must --

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in large-scale European farms the pigs Arquette in such small space

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they cannot turn around. This farm would not exceed regulations. They

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say they are providing decent meat at a decent price. Most people now

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get their meat from supermarkets, but rarely question wearer comes

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from or how it produced. -- ready question where it comes from.

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Research we did a couple of years ago suggests that two-thirds or the

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meat brought into this country, the majority, would be illegal to

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produce in this country. Why would it be illegal? Many the conditions

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that the pigs are kept. In this country are kept in bigger pence. -

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- bigger enclosures. The foreign produce coming in is getting sub-

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standard systems. The government says we have a choice, farming

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minister Jim Paice says we can maintain sentimental farming, or

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set the industry on fire by producing more meet at affordable

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prices. What British farmers have always done well is the more

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extensive farming with higher welfare standards that may lead to

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a more expensive product, but it is one we can all feel better about.

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Earlier this month there was another demonstration against the

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application in Derby. The battle to decide what we eat, and how we

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produce it has only just begun. So, what do you think? Are you

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prepared to pay more for your sausages and bacon? Or are you

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being forced to shop for ever cheaper meat? Joined the boat on

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our Facebook page. -- join of the vote.

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This roundabout has made it on to wait candour Faure roundabout

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appreciation Society. By the time the calendar comes out it will be

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long gone. The people of Leek aren't happY.

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They're a community up in arms. Taking to the streets. They're at

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war, over a roundabout. This roundabout, in fact. And it's here

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that the lines of battle have been drawn. Plans to do away with the

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roundabout and replace it with traffic lights have left the locals

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up in arms. Save our roundabout. I am passionate aobout Leek and I

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will chain myself to the roundabout until the bulldozers go away! I'm

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absolutely thrilled that so many people have turned out this evening.

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You can't get rid of the roundabout, I love looking at the flowers,

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they're so beautiful. They brighten up the day as you go past and look

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at them. So, why on earth are people fighting to save a

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roundabout? I'm off to see a little girl who might be able to shed some

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light on it all. If they change your roundabout and put lights in,

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how would taht make you feel? make me feel sad, traffic lights

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don't do much, just stop traffic. As a member of the roundabout inner

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circle, Alex even asked for a royal helping hand. I wrote to Prince

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Charles but he didn't do anything, so we're going to number 10. You're

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going to hand in your petition and hopefully get them to change the

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minds of the local council. Yeah. Alex's grandmother Pam has been a

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driving forces behind the campaign. Pam, you're not happy at all about

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this roundabout being dug up? people of Leek are really angry,

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that for the sake of a new supermarket, the roads are going to

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be changed, the iconic roundabout infront od the war memorial will be

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gone. This sense of collective community spirit has inspired Pam

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to go one-step further, coming out of retirement to become Deputy

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Mayor. We're hoping that somehow we can get all the parties involved to

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back to the drawing board, and hopefully consult with the people

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of Leek of the new plans. And it's in line with Sainsbury's plans to

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build a new supermarket in town that the roundabout changes have

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come, well, about! The store, which will be built a mile down the road

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brings with it the promise of 600 jobs, fresh investment and plans to

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alleviate traffic congestion in the town centre by redesigning the road

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newtworks. Although locals have little objection to the new store

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being built, the roundabout plans have got one baker changing her

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focus from cakes to cameras. Sarah Gayton has been filming the whole

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campaign. This is such an important story to tell, these people, as

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part of the big society, they need to listen to the people of the town.

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I thought, if it's on the radio, it's brilliant, but it will go, so

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we needed some kind of visual record to show what happened,

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because I knew people wouldn't listen. Who's going to listen to

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us? So what's so special about this roundabout, I mean to the untrained

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eye, it looks like most other roundabouts, it's circular and well,

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cars go round it, So, this is THE roundabout, why is so special?

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is Leek and this is our roundabout. Absolutely gorgeous, it's the

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gateway to Leek. In the Spring, around March, the daffodils are

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stunning. It keeps people happy, it is our roundabout and we want to

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keep it for future generations. Well, I think I'm getting the

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picture, this roundabout certainly seems to mean a lot and these guys

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are well up for the fight. Wonder if their message is getting

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through? Well, unfortunately, according to Sainsbury's it might

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all be too late, the roundabout indeed seems set to go it's all

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just a matter of ironing out the new plans. In a statement they

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said: Councillors' decision to approve our plans was not

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challenged during the three-month judicial review period. In a

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meeting last year with local representatives we discussed the

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sensitivities and constraints of the overall scheme. We are pleased

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that the Leek Public Realm Steering Group recently voted to proceed

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with a local architect's option, and that it will be consulting the

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public again in due course. So, at the heart of this there

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appears to be two councils, the county council, who won't talk to

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us but sent us a statement, and they're saying that they're only

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following the plans layed out by the district council's masterplan

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for Leek. So let's see what the District Council have got to say.

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With young Alex firmly on the case, I joined her to get some answers.

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Why can't we save the roundabout when so many people want it?

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like the roundabout to stay but it's not possible. We are going to

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incorporate it into a garden area at the bottom of Derby Sreet. You

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will have flower beds and trees sitting there, but it has to moved.

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Job creation on the Moorlands, economic investment, flower beds

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don't put food on the table. might not put food on the table,

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but it's got people on this coach" It's seven o'clock in the morning,

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we on the route to London, and there is a good spirits. What I'm

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looking forward to most? Are you nervous? A little bit. But excited?

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Yes. I'm prepared, if the bulldozers come, I'm prepared to

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change myself to the lamp-post in the middle of the roundabout.

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Someone will have to remove me. If I do that, I will get a lot of

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people with me. That is quite extreme? That is how passionate I

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am. Shall we get in to investigate around about? Alex, we spoke to a

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local councillor, you be done that a local MP -- even met a local MP,

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what's left to do? We are going to Downing Street. Excited? Nervous? A

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little bit. I will look after you. We have handed in the petition,

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anything else to achieve? We have to say the roundabout, when not

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going to stop Punto has been saved. Let's hope that's done the trick.

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It will be saved. That's the end of Finally tonight, it seems that the

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Irish are coming. Economic problems there have led to a new wave of

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Irish immigrants looking for work in Birmingham. But will they get a

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better welcome now than they did 60 Birmingham has been the destination

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of choice for a deft -- generations of Irish immigrants. For many years

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it has had the third larger St Patrick's Day parade in the world

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and has a community of over 100,000 At Digbeth coach station, this has

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been the main arrival point for thousands of Irish migrants coming

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into Birmingham over the decades. For less than a mile up the road in

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St Ann's they will get a warm welcome at the Irish and Birmingham

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information and welfare centre for. We have about 150 people attending

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during the week, and we put a range of activities on. We provide them

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with a social setting where they can come. Some of these people

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might not see anyone from one end of the week to the next.

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Established in 1957, they provide welfare support to the settled

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Irish community as well as an information service for the latest

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arrivals looking for work. It tends to be probably 18 up to 30 year-

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olds coming at the moment. The demand on our service is a lot less

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than it used to be for the generation coming in because they

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have already made arrangements. global recession hit Ireland hard

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and unemployment stands at 14 %. Property prices have fallen through

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the floor. Now there is a new generation. Most Irish immigrants

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in recent years have further education qualifications like a

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degree or diploma, making them rather different from earlier

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generations, many of whom went to work in unskilled services or

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construction. There is no doubt the one of the areas that has had the

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most effect is young graduates coming out, because you have taken

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away their jobs in medical trade, the Education Trade, and the

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natural place for them to look is the UK. Graduates like Niall

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McCooey, after studying law in Ireland, secured himself a position

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with the law firm in Birmingham. What brought you to Birmingham?

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currently studying in the jewellery Quarter to start work with the law

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firm in September. The why Birmingham? Why not London? A good

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point. I think mostly because I have some family here and I could

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find my feet and get started and have some support. That influenced

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my choice, and also the fact I got a job. He is typical of young,

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well-educated professional migrants coming out of Ireland today. Very

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few of his friends have remained at home. I came from quite a rural

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part of Ireland, and many went to Dublin and Belfast and quite a few

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of my friends have been lucky and most of them have got work in those

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cities, and then some have come to the likes of Birmingham and London,

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and some have even gone further afield to like Australia and the US.

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Michelle tells a similar story. She is an occupational therapist, but

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when she finished her studies the any place she could find work was

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in Birmingham. I know people people in occupational therapy and Ireland

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would have walked into a job, and I know people you have done it. There

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would have been local work and short-term contracts, but they have

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stopped that now. What has the process been like in looking for a

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job back home? Has it been checking website regularly? Every day. I am

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on the same website constantly. My parents by the newspaper every day

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and check them, and I check every day, because there is such demand

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there could be something in the morning that is gone by the bin.

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How much do you miss your friends and family? I miss home every day.

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I don't think I will ever lose that ever. It is five-and-a-half years

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and I have not lasted. It wasn't so bad when I was studying, because I

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had Easter, the summer and I would look towards that, but when I got

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the job it was like, this is it, I have no set time to go home.

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what is it about the Irish economy that for generations has forced

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millions of people to leave their homes in search of work? The Irish

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economy is about 4.5 million people, roughly the size of the West

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Midlands conurbation, Birmingham, Coventry, Sandwell, all put

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together. It is a relatively small economy and people will typically

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look to go abroad to develop opportunities. So it is natural. It

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is what you would do if you lived in Birmingham or Manchester. It is

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what you do if you live in London. You can even look around at

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different places. Over at the Irish in Birmingham, they understand how

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hard it can be, when they arrived looking for work in the 50s and 60s,

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Britain was a very different place. Life was far from easy. Activity by

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the IRA and political tensions meant that the Irish were simply

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not welcomed. I didn't really like it to start with anyway. No Irish,

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No Blacks, no children. Those were on the windows if you're looking

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for Deeks. That must have been tough to begin with. You had left

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home and... Yes, it was very hard. That was not the type of thing we

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were used to. Everybody was the same. You would go out, get on the

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bus and no one would speak. I am sure it was because you are Irish,

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because as soon as you open your mouth they know you are. After many

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years, the Irish had made inroads in Birmingham, becoming a vital

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part of the wider community and infrastructure. But the pub

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The bombs were planted early in the evening, around �30 of blasting

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On a cold November night, the bombing of two city-centre pubs

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killed twenty-one people and injured 182. It was the worst

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terrorist attack on mainland Britain at the time. Birmingham was

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a home-from-home for the Irish. The pub bombings on their doorstep left

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them feeling killed riven and anxious. The community, once again,

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pushed into isolation. I was on the bus and I was outside Digbeth coach

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station when the bombs went off. You were so ashamed of the bombings.

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You had to hold your head down. felt ashamed? Why wouldn't you?

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Lives were lost. No matter who you are, you are a human being. Why

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take lives away? These days the Irish court is a proud focal point

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in Birmingham and the prejudice once held against them is long gone.

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I think the young people coming over don't have those issues to

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face. I think you'll find younger people coming over from Ireland,

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those bombings will never be mentioned and it won't come up in

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conversation, or the fact they are Irish, or any risk they might

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present. It is just not there anymore. So things are different

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now, but what worries Irish migrants today is whether they will

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find any work when they get here. But experts in Ireland are also

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concerned that history shows the likelihood of young immigrants ever

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returning diminishes the longer they are away. So many people are

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emigrating at the moment, and they come to cities like Birmingham, and

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I suppose a lot of them are in Korea's where they could move back,

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where as the job I am going into it is not that simple. I guess for

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them it is a more short-term view, or at least medium-term. Whereas

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for me it is medium up to long term. Paul Michel, the opportunity to

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return to her home in Ireland has finally come -- for Michelle.

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Thankfully I handed in my notice last Monday and it all came out all

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of a sudden. I have got a job in Northern Ireland, about an hour

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from where I live and I have taken it. I am going home in the next

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month. How do you feel about that? I'm very, very excited. The key

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question concerning emigration now is whether the economy in Ireland

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will recover in time to allow those That is all we have got for this

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week, but joined me again next Coming upon the programme next

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