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Hello, and welcome to Inside Out. This week, we've come to Dudley | :00:09. | :00:12. | |
Castle and Zoo to bring you three surprising stories from right | :00:12. | :00:17. | |
across the West Midlands. On the programme tonight: | :00:17. | :00:21. | |
Sold a service that wasn't delivered. We investigate claims | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
from family who is say they've been ripped off my Midlands immigration | :00:26. | :00:31. | |
firm. I can't explain how devastating this was. I literally | :00:31. | :00:41. | |
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wanted to crawl under my desk and cry. | :00:42. | :00:49. | |
Also, the abductions tearing families apart. You have no control | :00:49. | :00:57. | |
over it. In our final story, why the Cadbury | :00:57. | :01:06. | |
people built a new village for their workers. That's all coming up | :01:06. | :01:16. | |
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Say you've got a wife, husband, mum or dad who isn't British but you | :01:20. | :01:24. | |
would like them to stay with you in the UK. Well, there are companies | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
that, for a feerbgs will help you to do this. We've been speaking to | :01:28. | :01:33. | |
customers of one Midlands firm who say they've paid up and got nothing | :01:33. | :01:39. | |
in return. -- for a fee will help you do this. Meet Bernadette. She | :01:39. | :01:42. | |
was born in South Africa but has been legally living in the UK with | :01:42. | :01:48. | |
her family for the past ten years. To her, Britain is home and she | :01:48. | :01:52. | |
wants the Passport to Prove it. I've been married ten years to my | :01:52. | :01:57. | |
husband who's British. My children are South African. We wanted to | :01:57. | :02:07. | |
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have a British family unit. It's a way of showing him as well that we | :02:09. | :02:17. | |
want to be here. But things started to go wrong after she paid over | :02:17. | :02:21. | |
�1,000. I can't explain how devastating it was. I wanted to | :02:21. | :02:27. | |
crawl under my defpbg and die. I felt hopeless. -- desk and die. I | :02:27. | :02:37. | |
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felt hopeless. The company was called UK Visa & | :02:39. | :02:44. | |
Immigration and she's not the only unhappy customer. | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
We have spoken to more than ten people who believe they've been | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
ripped off. Many say that after parting with their cash, the firm | :02:51. | :02:56. | |
didn't do the work they were paid to do. Some say that phone lines | :02:56. | :03:04. | |
simply went dead, others that refunds never materialised. | :03:04. | :03:11. | |
We want to introduce you to a few people whose stories are the same. | :03:11. | :03:16. | |
More disgruntled UK customers. Like Ian who says he paid �100 for a | :03:16. | :03:22. | |
visa he didn't get. -- �1200. marryed to a lady from Thailand, we | :03:22. | :03:26. | |
have been married seven years, we have a beautiful family. My father- | :03:26. | :03:30. | |
in-law died relatively suddenly and that left my mother-in-law with | :03:30. | :03:35. | |
very few people out in Thailand to help and look after her. She's | :03:35. | :03:41. | |
elderly. We decided she should come and see us for a period of time. | :03:41. | :03:47. | |
months on, he's still fighting for a refund. It was incredibly | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
difficult. Being in a sales job myself, it was in the heart of the | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
recession. We paid for it on the credit card and then, as my salary | :03:54. | :03:58. | |
came down, we struggled to pay that back. Even now, we are still paying | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
back that credit car, still paying interest on the credit card and | :04:02. | :04:06. | |
struggling through month to month. Leigh is from Australia but moved | :04:06. | :04:10. | |
to the UK nearly a year ago to marry her British husband. She paid | :04:10. | :04:16. | |
for two visas and got the first one but yes, you guessed it, no sign of | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
the second. I paid them �2,000 for both visas. | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
That money was a one shot. If I didn't get what I needed for that | :04:26. | :04:32. | |
money, I didn't have the money to do it again. They prey on your | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
emotions, and on your need to join your families together or to start | :04:36. | :04:38. | |
a new life in the UK for a lot of people. | :04:38. | :04:42. | |
The people we have just heard from are a drop in the ocean. We | :04:42. | :04:47. | |
discovered there's been around 100 complaints about UK Visa and | :04:47. | :04:52. | |
Immigration. With a fee of roughly �1,000 per customer, it's big | :04:52. | :04:56. | |
business. What's happening on the inside? We | :04:56. | :05:01. | |
spoke to three former employees. Adam is one of them. He zod remain | :05:01. | :05:07. | |
anonymous to avoid any possible consequences. He asked to remain | :05:07. | :05:11. | |
anonymous. We were told to put customers on hold for ten minutes, | :05:11. | :05:15. | |
pretend we'd come back if a chat with a barrister and say, as long | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
as you can pay today, we can 100% get your visa sorted. Employees | :05:20. | :05:26. | |
were under pressure to get money out of customers. I heard customers | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
crying. One consultant said to a customer, do you love your wife, so | :05:30. | :05:38. | |
is she worth �1,50 0ps you wouldn't talk to your dog in the same way - | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
�1,500. Adam and others told us something else interesting about | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
the company, that it goes under a number of different names. | :05:46. | :05:51. | |
Curious? So were we. So we did a bit of digging and this is what we | :05:51. | :05:59. | |
found out. UK Visa & Immigration started life | :05:59. | :06:05. | |
in 2010. And this was the trading name for another company called UK | :06:06. | :06:11. | |
Visa Specialists Ltd, the director was a man named Ash Shadat. In July, | :06:11. | :06:15. | |
the company was banned by the body which regulates immigration | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
advisers because of the number of complaints we are told making it a | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
criminal offence for the company or its employees to offer imgrace | :06:24. | :06:32. | |
advice. This is where it gets interesting. Last year, another | :06:32. | :06:37. | |
company was created under the name of UK Immigration Barristers. We | :06:37. | :06:43. | |
tracked down two people who work for them, they also worked for UK | :06:43. | :06:48. | |
Visa & Immigration, the firm that took money off the customers we | :06:48. | :06:52. | |
heard from earlier. The people admit working for the firms but | :06:52. | :06:57. | |
Mohammed said he did so as a self- employed person. As the company | :06:57. | :07:02. | |
appears to have stopped trading, UK Immigration Barristers hasn't. | :07:02. | :07:07. | |
We have heard that it's giving advice through unqualified advisers | :07:07. | :07:15. | |
which could be illegal. So we thought we'd put this to the test. | :07:15. | :07:20. | |
Craig speaking, how can I help... I'm looking for some immigration | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
files... This is our actress, Siobhan. We asked her to call, | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
pretending to need help to get a visa for her husband and we also | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
asked a leading immigration solicitor to listen in. All right, | :07:32. | :07:37. | |
I'm going to pop you on hold to see the legal team with regards to this. | :07:37. | :07:40. | |
Bear with me. OK. Remember, it's a criminal offence to give | :07:40. | :07:45. | |
immigration advice unless advisers are qualified or the company is | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
regulated and the firm were about to hear from isn't. What about | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
coming over on a visitor's visa. Is that a possibility and applying | :07:55. | :08:02. | |
when he gets here when we save some more money up? Yes, he could get a | :08:02. | :08:07. | |
visit visa, but he wouldn't be able to... Sounds suspiciously like | :08:07. | :08:13. | |
immigration advice to me. But what does the expert think? It would | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
make any prosecution peck pif purchaser of the services | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
uncomfortable -- prospective. The adviser is not regulated, as they | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
should be. It would make you uncomfortable. He's not sure about | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
the people giving the advice. What does he make about the advice | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
itself? The advice that's been given today to Siobhan is | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
immigration law advice, advice for which she received was all accurate. | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
We put our evidence to Nadim, the man in charge of the company we | :08:42. | :08:48. | |
just heard from, UK Immigration Barristers, he denies links to the | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
previous companies and says his company acts as broker between | :08:52. | :09:02. | |
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That's interesting. I'm sure we heard some immigration advice been | :09:11. | :09:13. | |
given earlier -- being given earlier. | :09:13. | :09:19. | |
We put it to him that he may have been acting illegally by not being | :09:19. | :09:29. | |
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We spoke to the organisations who both say this isn't the case. We | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
also tracked down the man behind the now defunct UK Visa & | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
Immigration to ask the big question - will customers like Bernadette | :09:40. | :09:45. | |
get their money back? We have spoken to about a dozen | :09:45. | :09:49. | |
customers who didn't get the service they paid for. Why didn't | :09:49. | :09:56. | |
they get their service? Once your licence is cancelled, you are not | :09:56. | :10:00. | |
allowed to give advice. Towards the end of the life of a visa, there | :10:00. | :10:02. | |
were client who is maybe didn't get the service, no doubt. That's | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
because time ran out for us. Those who didn't get the service are due | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
a refund aren't they, that they haven't had? These moneys are held | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
by a merchant provider because the majority of these payments were | :10:14. | :10:17. | |
paid by card. The merchant providers have been taking time | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
releasing the fund and we have been waiting since March 2011 for the | :10:21. | :10:24. | |
moneys to be released. If they qualify for a refund, no problem, | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
I'll pay it up myself. Not a problem at all. At the end of the | :10:28. | :10:32. | |
day, I'm not here to take money for nothing. Some interesting answers, | :10:32. | :10:37. | |
but we've still got a few questions. So we are on our way to London with | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
Bernadette to hand over our evidence to the regulator. | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
Evidence give tonne us about activity that may be illegal, we | :10:50. | :10:56. | |
would look at very seriously. If the firm is found to be trading | :10:56. | :10:59. | |
outside of regulation and it's appropriate for us to do so because | :10:59. | :11:03. | |
it's in the public interest, we'll prosecute as we have done with many | :11:03. | :11:07. | |
others. We have heard from the regulator. Now let us hear from | :11:07. | :11:11. | |
Bernadette. I'm toobt fill her in with my chat on the commissioner -- | :11:11. | :11:15. | |
I'm about to fill her in with my chat with the commissioner. That | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
gives me a lot of hope. Most of all, I don't want anybody that's in the | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
same situation that me and my family have been in to go through | :11:25. | :11:30. | |
this. It was an horrendous part of my life that I hope never to two | :11:30. | :11:32. | |
through again. Fresh hope for Bernadette then, but there are | :11:32. | :11:36. | |
thousands of families like hers who want the right to stay together in | :11:36. | :11:40. | |
a country they love. And there are thousands of firms who want to help | :11:40. | :11:50. | |
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them for a price. All very well if More than 140,000 children go | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
missing a year in Britain, that's one every three minutes. But it's | :11:58. | :12:02. | |
not just run away teenagers. An increasing number are being | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
abducted by people they know and trust, their mother or father. And | :12:07. | :12:17. | |
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sometimes the parent left behind Scrawled in her school notebook | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
shortly before she disappeared, six-year-old Amina's message is | :12:33. | :12:41. | |
clear. She loves her dad very much. But now she's almost certainly | :12:42. | :12:51. | |
living 5,000 miles away with her mum in Pakistan. Safraz fears he | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
may never see her again. He was granted custody following divorce, | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
but while Amina was staying with her mum for a few days, they both | :13:01. | :13:04. | |
went missing. It's the worst feeling ever. It's | :13:04. | :13:10. | |
like a bereavement. I'm dealing with that loss even though she's | :13:10. | :13:17. | |
still alive somewhere. It's like a bereavement because she's just | :13:17. | :13:26. | |
completely disappeared and you have no control over that. | :13:27. | :13:32. | |
Amina is now seven. At home, her bedroom's been left as it was the | :13:32. | :13:42. | |
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It's difficult to come into this room and most of the times I just | :13:45. | :13:50. | |
keep the door locked. Other than the cat sleeping in here. There are | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
toys and her birthday presents have been left unopened. It was her | :13:56. | :14:03. | |
birthday in July. Safraz and his family have been to | :14:03. | :14:07. | |
Pakistan five times to help find Amina. There's an agreement between | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
the UK and Pakistan designed to return children to the rightful | :14:10. | :14:17. | |
parent, but Safraz says the authorities have been unhelpful. | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
Unfortunately, Pakistan has this reputation of being a corrupt | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
country. In most cases, I've been asked to pay money to recover my | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
daughter. I've contacted some law firms in Pakistan and they've said, | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
our fee is, this but we need more money to pay the police separately | :14:35. | :14:39. | |
otherwise they are not going to pay for your daughter. We all miss her | :14:39. | :14:49. | |
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still and I'll not give up Jamila prays five times a day and | :15:00. | :15:08. | |
each time she begs Allah to return her son to her. She has an old | :15:08. | :15:14. | |
video with footage of her son Dodi. Until recently, she only had one | :15:14. | :15:20. | |
photograph. It's five years since she last saw him. | :15:20. | :15:28. | |
Part of me is numb now, is dead. I'm a walking dead person. I'm not | :15:28. | :15:35. | |
myself any more. I don't seem to trust anybody. It's just appears to | :15:35. | :15:43. | |
me that I've lost a big world of mine because of that. | :15:43. | :15:47. | |
Dodi was born in Sweden. After her relationship with her husband broke | :15:47. | :15:51. | |
down, Jamila noticed that Dodi returned from her father's care | :15:51. | :15:55. | |
bruised and in pain. She decided to take him to England. Under The | :15:55. | :15:59. | |
Hague convention, a court forced her to return to Sweden because she | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
hadn't sought her ex-husband's permission. There, she was arrested | :16:03. | :16:08. | |
and jailed for six months. But after she was released, Dodi | :16:08. | :16:15. | |
and his father disappeared. It's hard. As a parent, you hear | :16:15. | :16:20. | |
voices every day like he's calling you and somebody's kids calling | :16:20. | :16:25. | |
their mother, you wish it was him. When he's not well, you don't know | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
whether he needs you there. When he's thirsty, you're not there to | :16:29. | :16:36. | |
give him a drink. I mean, every day is hard, it's in my head, he's in | :16:36. | :16:43. | |
my head. Jamila had almost given up, then she typed her son's name into | :16:43. | :16:47. | |
her Facebook account and there he was, now 14 years old and living in | :16:47. | :16:50. | |
America. I just clicked the name, I just | :16:50. | :16:57. | |
felt, you know, a mother's instinct ts, click the name and here it | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
comes. And I burst into tears, all the way to the police station "I've | :17:02. | :17:08. | |
found my son on the Internet!" Jamila sends messages to Dodi, but | :17:08. | :17:15. | |
most go unanswered. On Mother's Day, she received a rare reply. He send | :17:15. | :17:22. | |
me that particular e-mail and they say that yes, he still says I'm in | :17:22. | :17:27. | |
his heart, he's throwing me a heart and he says for a special mum. | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
Jamila has now started proceedings with American courts to try to get | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
access. The number of abductions is rising as more and more couples | :17:36. | :17:41. | |
separate. A decade ago, two out of three abductors were men. Now two | :17:41. | :17:46. | |
in three are women. Both parents have spoken to us | :17:46. | :17:52. | |
about the health implications. There's been heart attacks, nervous | :17:52. | :17:57. | |
breakdowns, depression. Child abduction, there is absolutely no | :17:57. | :18:05. | |
winners whatsoever. It was to reunite that Belinda | :18:05. | :18:08. | |
Chapman turned 12 years ago when her son was illegally smug told | :18:08. | :18:13. | |
Turkey by his father. The charity and the police worked | :18:13. | :18:16. | |
tirelessly to get him back, but it took four years. | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
This was the day he returned, confused, clinging to an embassy | :18:21. | :18:24. | |
official. He'd all but forgotten his mother | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
who is behind him. Now, they are close. | :18:28. | :18:33. | |
At the beginning, I didn't used to feel like I knew him and I think he | :18:33. | :18:40. | |
felt the same about me, you know. Of course, he lived with his father | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
and he indoctrine ateed things into him to make him think I wasn't a | :18:45. | :18:51. | |
good person. I love him now and he loves me but it's a hard journey | :18:51. | :18:56. | |
even when you get them back. Safraz plans more tricks to | :18:56. | :19:04. | |
Pakistan as he continues his search for Amina and as yet, Jamina's | :19:04. | :19:08. | |
prayers remain unanswered. I've said to myself that he will be | :19:08. | :19:16. | |
back in my life one day. I'll watch him sleeping one day and I'll stare | :19:16. | :19:21. | |
at him the whole night he sleeps. That's what I promised myself. | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
love my daughter so much and she was so happy. I want her home back | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
in the UK where she lives, she's a British national, she's not | :19:28. | :19:34. | |
Pakistani. I will not give up searching for my daughter, I can't. | :19:34. | :19:37. | |
Changes in international law will force Governments to cooperate more | :19:37. | :19:42. | |
on child abduction. But many countries still ignore The Hague | :19:42. | :19:45. | |
convention. Every day, more children are being used as weapons | :19:46. | :19:55. | |
by their warring parents. Let us know your thoughts about any | :19:55. | :20:03. | |
of tonight's stories on the Facebook page. | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
Now, Cadburys is one of Britain's most famous companies, its | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
chocolate eaten across the world, but perhaps what's less well-known | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
is that its founders were quakers and their faith helped make them | :20:15. | :20:20. | |
pioneers in more ways than one. Stuart has been finding out more | :20:20. | :20:27. | |
about the origins of the Quaker religion | :20:27. | :20:33. | |
It may look like a fairly modest, unassuming house, but this 16th | :20:33. | :20:36. | |
century building holds a special significance for quakers, as this | :20:36. | :20:45. | |
is where it all began. It was here near Ulverston that | :20:45. | :20:49. | |
Judge Thomas Fell and his wife received a strange, unconventional | :20:49. | :20:53. | |
visitor who was to change their lives and the lives of thousands of | :20:53. | :21:02. | |
people forever. George Fox was a charismatic fire | :21:02. | :21:05. | |
brand from Leicestershire with strong views about religion. In the | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
mid 1600s, he rebelled against the state-run Church of England and | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
travelled the country preaching the then controversial message that God | :21:13. | :21:18. | |
is within us all and therefore we have no need for priests organised | :21:18. | :21:22. | |
religion or religious buildings. Having had a divine vision at the | :21:22. | :21:26. | |
top of Pendle Hill in Lancashire, George Fox made his way to the hall | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
where he'd go on to found the Quaker movement with the help of | :21:30. | :21:34. | |
the locals. What he knows about the hall is | :21:34. | :21:41. | |
that it is the home of a judge, Thomas Fell, and his wife Margaret. | :21:41. | :21:47. | |
They are sincere, puritans. Judge Fell is a bigwig, a lawyer and | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
friend of Cromwell's, you know, a former MP. | :21:52. | :21:57. | |
He uses this house, Judge Fell, as a sort of Open House, for | :21:57. | :22:00. | |
travelling puritan preachers, so it's natural I think that Fox would | :22:00. | :22:05. | |
have made his way here. Were the Fells taking a big risk in | :22:05. | :22:11. | |
harbouring this new fire brand preacher? After the execution of | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
the King in 1649, there is this huge almost desperate search for | :22:15. | :22:19. | |
truth in religion and for creating a Godly country. That's what people | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
are trying to do. So at this time, Fox is simply one of a whole range | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
of different possibilities. Yes, it is threatening from the | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
very beginning and it's threatening because it challenges the status | :22:34. | :22:41. | |
quo and challenges the status quo socially, religiously. To that | :22:41. | :22:46. | |
extent, they are taking a risk. George Fox travelled extensively, | :22:46. | :22:51. | |
but he always returned to the hall which still houses some of his | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
effects. When Judge Fell died exFox married his widow Margaret, seen as | :22:56. | :23:02. | |
the mother of the Quaker movement. The Quakers still hold meetings | :23:02. | :23:12. | |
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here which are held in silence. You can concentrate on the spirit. | :23:12. | :23:17. | |
If somebody feels moved to speak, they can stand up and spook. So | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
there is no separate clergy no, fixed lit you arey, it's using the | :23:22. | :23:32. | |
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silence as a way of doing that -- littery. -- litergy. This 17th | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
century dress-making class takes place here. This period in history | :23:40. | :23:44. | |
has very little information that we can find when we researched it as | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
to the type of typical garments every day people could wear. We | :23:48. | :23:51. | |
found this painting and we have used that as a base and we've used | :23:51. | :23:56. | |
that to create this red jacket. Would that have been for best? | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
Looks like it was? I think it would be for every day, really. We have | :24:01. | :24:06. | |
aimed at creating garments which are for every day wear. Right. | :24:06. | :24:12. | |
Roughly about 1660, so aboutn the years after Quakerism started. So | :24:12. | :24:16. | |
all the plain dress and things like that have come later. Do you fancy | :24:16. | :24:21. | |
wearing that every day? Erm... it comfortable? Yes, but I would | :24:21. | :24:31. | |
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I thought I knew Cumbria pretty well, I spend a lot of time here, | :24:34. | :24:38. | |
yet I had no idea that a major world religion was founded here a | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
few miles outside Ulverston is. I also had no experience, until this | :24:42. | :24:47. | |
morning, of a quaker meeting. Far from finding it odd or | :24:47. | :24:51. | |
uncomfortable or self-conscious, it seems quiet and reflective and the | :24:51. | :25:01. | |
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Members of the religious Society of Friends or quakers, as they are | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
better known, have certainly made a name for themselves. James Dean was | :25:12. | :25:17. | |
a Quaker, Barclay's bank was founded by quakers. The Cadbury | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
family established the chocolate factory here in the suburb of | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
Birmingham they created called Bournville. | :25:23. | :25:27. | |
The town was named Bournville to give it a continental sounding name, | :25:27. | :25:32. | |
as French chocolate was at that time thought to be the best in the | :25:32. | :25:34. | |
world. George Cadbury built the town as a model community for the | :25:34. | :25:38. | |
people of Birmingham. With its beautiful architecture and spacious | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
gardens, it's still regularly topping the poll of best places to | :25:42. | :25:49. | |
live in Britain. Did they establish their factory along Quaker | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
principles? It was very much run on Quaker lines, although they were | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
astute businessmen. The ethics were very important in the way they | :25:56. | :26:01. | |
treated their workers. The facilities they provided for them, | :26:01. | :26:06. | |
the pension, the day release for extended education. The sports | :26:06. | :26:10. | |
facilities. That was very much their Quaker influence. Of course, | :26:10. | :26:15. | |
they treated their customers, again it was very much from Quaker | :26:15. | :26:20. | |
origins. Why did so many quakers go into manufacturing? At the time | :26:20. | :26:22. | |
Quakerism started, they were so much shunned by the establishment, | :26:22. | :26:27. | |
in fact persecuted and imprisoned at times. The Cadbury family came | :26:27. | :26:31. | |
from the West Country here, as did lots of people, not just quakers, | :26:31. | :26:34. | |
to Birmingham, because they were welcomed here. You don't have to be | :26:34. | :26:38. | |
a Quaker or indeed work at Cadbury to live in Bournville, but the | :26:38. | :26:43. | |
friends meeting house still stands at the sten ter of the community | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
where I met Anne ah third generation Quaker who's spent most | :26:47. | :26:51. | |
of her life here -- stands at the centre of the community. What do | :26:51. | :26:55. | |
you find attractive about Quakerism? I think it's an approach | :26:55. | :27:00. | |
to life that we show our faith through the way we live, that we | :27:00. | :27:05. | |
try and care for people and the environment we live in. We don't | :27:05. | :27:11. | |
see ourselves as superior in any way and we don't wish to do harm to | :27:11. | :27:16. | |
anyone. All sounds a bit pious. Well, no. It's a hard thing to live | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
up to, but George Fox, the founder said, let your lives speak, and so | :27:22. | :27:28. | |
we try to treat people in the world as we'd also like to be treated. | :27:28. | :27:33. | |
Tell me about the campaign by Tesco's? We are perhaps unique in | :27:33. | :27:38. | |
fighting Tescos and winning. Yes. Because the Quaker principles of | :27:39. | :27:42. | |
the village were that there would be no alcohol. At the time when the | :27:42. | :27:47. | |
village was built in the early 1900s, alcohol was a huge problem | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
for workers and George Cadbury wanted his workers to be healthy | :27:51. | :27:55. | |
and have outdoor lives and not ruin themselves on the waste their money | :27:55. | :28:02. | |
by trinking. From the wild and wind swept beginnings on the Furness | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
peninsula, Quakerism has grown and spread to become a world religion | :28:06. | :28:10. | |
on the basis of even global businesses. At the heart of it, the | :28:10. | :28:16. | |
same quiet and human principles that George forbgs formulated 400 | :28:16. | :28:19. | |
years ago. -- George Fox formulated 400 years ago. That is it for | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
tonight. If you have a story that you think we should know about, | :28:23. | :28:32. | |
drop me an e-mail. I would love to hear from you. | :28:32. | :28:34. | |
Coming up on the programme next week: | :28:34. | :28:39. | |
We investigate the sickening attacks on the best of man's best | :28:39. | :28:43. |