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Hello, and welcome to Inside Out. This week, we've come to Dudley

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Castle and Zoo to bring you three surprising stories from right

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across the West Midlands. On the programme tonight:

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Sold a service that wasn't delivered. We investigate claims

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from family who is say they've been ripped off my Midlands immigration

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firm. I can't explain how devastating this was. I literally

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wanted to crawl under my desk and cry.

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Also, the abductions tearing families apart. You have no control

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over it. In our final story, why the Cadbury

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people built a new village for their workers. That's all coming up

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Say you've got a wife, husband, mum or dad who isn't British but you

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would like them to stay with you in the UK. Well, there are companies

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that, for a feerbgs will help you to do this. We've been speaking to

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customers of one Midlands firm who say they've paid up and got nothing

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in return. -- for a fee will help you do this. Meet Bernadette. She

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was born in South Africa but has been legally living in the UK with

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her family for the past ten years. To her, Britain is home and she

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wants the Passport to Prove it. I've been married ten years to my

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husband who's British. My children are South African. We wanted to

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have a British family unit. It's a way of showing him as well that we

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want to be here. But things started to go wrong after she paid over

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�1,000. I can't explain how devastating it was. I wanted to

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crawl under my defpbg and die. I felt hopeless. -- desk and die. I

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felt hopeless. The company was called UK Visa &

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Immigration and she's not the only unhappy customer.

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We have spoken to more than ten people who believe they've been

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ripped off. Many say that after parting with their cash, the firm

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didn't do the work they were paid to do. Some say that phone lines

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simply went dead, others that refunds never materialised.

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We want to introduce you to a few people whose stories are the same.

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More disgruntled UK customers. Like Ian who says he paid �100 for a

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visa he didn't get. -- �1200. marryed to a lady from Thailand, we

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have been married seven years, we have a beautiful family. My father-

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in-law died relatively suddenly and that left my mother-in-law with

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very few people out in Thailand to help and look after her. She's

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elderly. We decided she should come and see us for a period of time.

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months on, he's still fighting for a refund. It was incredibly

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difficult. Being in a sales job myself, it was in the heart of the

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recession. We paid for it on the credit card and then, as my salary

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came down, we struggled to pay that back. Even now, we are still paying

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back that credit car, still paying interest on the credit card and

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struggling through month to month. Leigh is from Australia but moved

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to the UK nearly a year ago to marry her British husband. She paid

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for two visas and got the first one but yes, you guessed it, no sign of

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the second. I paid them �2,000 for both visas.

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That money was a one shot. If I didn't get what I needed for that

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money, I didn't have the money to do it again. They prey on your

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emotions, and on your need to join your families together or to start

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a new life in the UK for a lot of people.

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The people we have just heard from are a drop in the ocean. We

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discovered there's been around 100 complaints about UK Visa and

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Immigration. With a fee of roughly �1,000 per customer, it's big

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business. What's happening on the inside? We

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spoke to three former employees. Adam is one of them. He zod remain

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anonymous to avoid any possible consequences. He asked to remain

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anonymous. We were told to put customers on hold for ten minutes,

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pretend we'd come back if a chat with a barrister and say, as long

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as you can pay today, we can 100% get your visa sorted. Employees

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were under pressure to get money out of customers. I heard customers

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crying. One consultant said to a customer, do you love your wife, so

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is she worth �1,50 0ps you wouldn't talk to your dog in the same way -

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�1,500. Adam and others told us something else interesting about

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the company, that it goes under a number of different names.

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Curious? So were we. So we did a bit of digging and this is what we

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found out. UK Visa & Immigration started life

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in 2010. And this was the trading name for another company called UK

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Visa Specialists Ltd, the director was a man named Ash Shadat. In July,

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the company was banned by the body which regulates immigration

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advisers because of the number of complaints we are told making it a

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criminal offence for the company or its employees to offer imgrace

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advice. This is where it gets interesting. Last year, another

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company was created under the name of UK Immigration Barristers. We

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tracked down two people who work for them, they also worked for UK

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Visa & Immigration, the firm that took money off the customers we

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heard from earlier. The people admit working for the firms but

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Mohammed said he did so as a self- employed person. As the company

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appears to have stopped trading, UK Immigration Barristers hasn't.

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We have heard that it's giving advice through unqualified advisers

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which could be illegal. So we thought we'd put this to the test.

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Craig speaking, how can I help... I'm looking for some immigration

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files... This is our actress, Siobhan. We asked her to call,

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pretending to need help to get a visa for her husband and we also

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asked a leading immigration solicitor to listen in. All right,

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I'm going to pop you on hold to see the legal team with regards to this.

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Bear with me. OK. Remember, it's a criminal offence to give

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immigration advice unless advisers are qualified or the company is

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regulated and the firm were about to hear from isn't. What about

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coming over on a visitor's visa. Is that a possibility and applying

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when he gets here when we save some more money up? Yes, he could get a

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visit visa, but he wouldn't be able to... Sounds suspiciously like

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immigration advice to me. But what does the expert think? It would

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make any prosecution peck pif purchaser of the services

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uncomfortable -- prospective. The adviser is not regulated, as they

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should be. It would make you uncomfortable. He's not sure about

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the people giving the advice. What does he make about the advice

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itself? The advice that's been given today to Siobhan is

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immigration law advice, advice for which she received was all accurate.

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We put our evidence to Nadim, the man in charge of the company we

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just heard from, UK Immigration Barristers, he denies links to the

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previous companies and says his company acts as broker between

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That's interesting. I'm sure we heard some immigration advice been

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given earlier -- being given earlier.

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We put it to him that he may have been acting illegally by not being

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We spoke to the organisations who both say this isn't the case. We

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also tracked down the man behind the now defunct UK Visa &

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Immigration to ask the big question - will customers like Bernadette

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get their money back? We have spoken to about a dozen

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customers who didn't get the service they paid for. Why didn't

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they get their service? Once your licence is cancelled, you are not

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allowed to give advice. Towards the end of the life of a visa, there

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were client who is maybe didn't get the service, no doubt. That's

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because time ran out for us. Those who didn't get the service are due

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a refund aren't they, that they haven't had? These moneys are held

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by a merchant provider because the majority of these payments were

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paid by card. The merchant providers have been taking time

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releasing the fund and we have been waiting since March 2011 for the

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moneys to be released. If they qualify for a refund, no problem,

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I'll pay it up myself. Not a problem at all. At the end of the

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day, I'm not here to take money for nothing. Some interesting answers,

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but we've still got a few questions. So we are on our way to London with

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Bernadette to hand over our evidence to the regulator.

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Evidence give tonne us about activity that may be illegal, we

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would look at very seriously. If the firm is found to be trading

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outside of regulation and it's appropriate for us to do so because

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it's in the public interest, we'll prosecute as we have done with many

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others. We have heard from the regulator. Now let us hear from

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Bernadette. I'm toobt fill her in with my chat on the commissioner --

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I'm about to fill her in with my chat with the commissioner. That

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gives me a lot of hope. Most of all, I don't want anybody that's in the

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same situation that me and my family have been in to go through

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this. It was an horrendous part of my life that I hope never to two

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through again. Fresh hope for Bernadette then, but there are

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thousands of families like hers who want the right to stay together in

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a country they love. And there are thousands of firms who want to help

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them for a price. All very well if More than 140,000 children go

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missing a year in Britain, that's one every three minutes. But it's

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not just run away teenagers. An increasing number are being

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abducted by people they know and trust, their mother or father. And

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sometimes the parent left behind Scrawled in her school notebook

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shortly before she disappeared, six-year-old Amina's message is

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clear. She loves her dad very much. But now she's almost certainly

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living 5,000 miles away with her mum in Pakistan. Safraz fears he

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may never see her again. He was granted custody following divorce,

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but while Amina was staying with her mum for a few days, they both

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went missing. It's the worst feeling ever. It's

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like a bereavement. I'm dealing with that loss even though she's

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still alive somewhere. It's like a bereavement because she's just

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completely disappeared and you have no control over that.

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Amina is now seven. At home, her bedroom's been left as it was the

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It's difficult to come into this room and most of the times I just

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keep the door locked. Other than the cat sleeping in here. There are

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toys and her birthday presents have been left unopened. It was her

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birthday in July. Safraz and his family have been to

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Pakistan five times to help find Amina. There's an agreement between

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the UK and Pakistan designed to return children to the rightful

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parent, but Safraz says the authorities have been unhelpful.

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Unfortunately, Pakistan has this reputation of being a corrupt

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country. In most cases, I've been asked to pay money to recover my

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daughter. I've contacted some law firms in Pakistan and they've said,

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our fee is, this but we need more money to pay the police separately

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otherwise they are not going to pay for your daughter. We all miss her

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still and I'll not give up Jamila prays five times a day and

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each time she begs Allah to return her son to her. She has an old

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video with footage of her son Dodi. Until recently, she only had one

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photograph. It's five years since she last saw him.

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Part of me is numb now, is dead. I'm a walking dead person. I'm not

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myself any more. I don't seem to trust anybody. It's just appears to

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me that I've lost a big world of mine because of that.

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Dodi was born in Sweden. After her relationship with her husband broke

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down, Jamila noticed that Dodi returned from her father's care

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bruised and in pain. She decided to take him to England. Under The

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Hague convention, a court forced her to return to Sweden because she

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hadn't sought her ex-husband's permission. There, she was arrested

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and jailed for six months. But after she was released, Dodi

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and his father disappeared. It's hard. As a parent, you hear

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voices every day like he's calling you and somebody's kids calling

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their mother, you wish it was him. When he's not well, you don't know

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whether he needs you there. When he's thirsty, you're not there to

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give him a drink. I mean, every day is hard, it's in my head, he's in

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my head. Jamila had almost given up, then she typed her son's name into

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her Facebook account and there he was, now 14 years old and living in

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America. I just clicked the name, I just

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felt, you know, a mother's instinct ts, click the name and here it

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comes. And I burst into tears, all the way to the police station "I've

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found my son on the Internet!" Jamila sends messages to Dodi, but

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most go unanswered. On Mother's Day, she received a rare reply. He send

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me that particular e-mail and they say that yes, he still says I'm in

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his heart, he's throwing me a heart and he says for a special mum.

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Jamila has now started proceedings with American courts to try to get

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access. The number of abductions is rising as more and more couples

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separate. A decade ago, two out of three abductors were men. Now two

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in three are women. Both parents have spoken to us

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about the health implications. There's been heart attacks, nervous

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breakdowns, depression. Child abduction, there is absolutely no

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winners whatsoever. It was to reunite that Belinda

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Chapman turned 12 years ago when her son was illegally smug told

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Turkey by his father. The charity and the police worked

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tirelessly to get him back, but it took four years.

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This was the day he returned, confused, clinging to an embassy

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official. He'd all but forgotten his mother

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who is behind him. Now, they are close.

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At the beginning, I didn't used to feel like I knew him and I think he

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felt the same about me, you know. Of course, he lived with his father

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and he indoctrine ateed things into him to make him think I wasn't a

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good person. I love him now and he loves me but it's a hard journey

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even when you get them back. Safraz plans more tricks to

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Pakistan as he continues his search for Amina and as yet, Jamina's

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prayers remain unanswered. I've said to myself that he will be

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back in my life one day. I'll watch him sleeping one day and I'll stare

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at him the whole night he sleeps. That's what I promised myself.

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love my daughter so much and she was so happy. I want her home back

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in the UK where she lives, she's a British national, she's not

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Pakistani. I will not give up searching for my daughter, I can't.

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Changes in international law will force Governments to cooperate more

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on child abduction. But many countries still ignore The Hague

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convention. Every day, more children are being used as weapons

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by their warring parents. Let us know your thoughts about any

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of tonight's stories on the Facebook page.

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Now, Cadburys is one of Britain's most famous companies, its

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chocolate eaten across the world, but perhaps what's less well-known

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is that its founders were quakers and their faith helped make them

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pioneers in more ways than one. Stuart has been finding out more

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about the origins of the Quaker religion

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It may look like a fairly modest, unassuming house, but this 16th

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century building holds a special significance for quakers, as this

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is where it all began. It was here near Ulverston that

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Judge Thomas Fell and his wife received a strange, unconventional

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visitor who was to change their lives and the lives of thousands of

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people forever. George Fox was a charismatic fire

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brand from Leicestershire with strong views about religion. In the

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mid 1600s, he rebelled against the state-run Church of England and

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travelled the country preaching the then controversial message that God

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is within us all and therefore we have no need for priests organised

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religion or religious buildings. Having had a divine vision at the

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top of Pendle Hill in Lancashire, George Fox made his way to the hall

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where he'd go on to found the Quaker movement with the help of

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the locals. What he knows about the hall is

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that it is the home of a judge, Thomas Fell, and his wife Margaret.

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They are sincere, puritans. Judge Fell is a bigwig, a lawyer and

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friend of Cromwell's, you know, a former MP.

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He uses this house, Judge Fell, as a sort of Open House, for

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travelling puritan preachers, so it's natural I think that Fox would

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have made his way here. Were the Fells taking a big risk in

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harbouring this new fire brand preacher? After the execution of

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the King in 1649, there is this huge almost desperate search for

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truth in religion and for creating a Godly country. That's what people

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are trying to do. So at this time, Fox is simply one of a whole range

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of different possibilities. Yes, it is threatening from the

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very beginning and it's threatening because it challenges the status

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quo and challenges the status quo socially, religiously. To that

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extent, they are taking a risk. George Fox travelled extensively,

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but he always returned to the hall which still houses some of his

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effects. When Judge Fell died exFox married his widow Margaret, seen as

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the mother of the Quaker movement. The Quakers still hold meetings

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here which are held in silence. You can concentrate on the spirit.

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If somebody feels moved to speak, they can stand up and spook. So

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there is no separate clergy no, fixed lit you arey, it's using the

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silence as a way of doing that -- littery. -- litergy. This 17th

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century dress-making class takes place here. This period in history

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has very little information that we can find when we researched it as

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to the type of typical garments every day people could wear. We

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found this painting and we have used that as a base and we've used

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that to create this red jacket. Would that have been for best?

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Looks like it was? I think it would be for every day, really. We have

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aimed at creating garments which are for every day wear. Right.

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Roughly about 1660, so aboutn the years after Quakerism started. So

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all the plain dress and things like that have come later. Do you fancy

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wearing that every day? Erm... it comfortable? Yes, but I would

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I thought I knew Cumbria pretty well, I spend a lot of time here,

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yet I had no idea that a major world religion was founded here a

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few miles outside Ulverston is. I also had no experience, until this

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morning, of a quaker meeting. Far from finding it odd or

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uncomfortable or self-conscious, it seems quiet and reflective and the

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Members of the religious Society of Friends or quakers, as they are

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better known, have certainly made a name for themselves. James Dean was

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a Quaker, Barclay's bank was founded by quakers. The Cadbury

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family established the chocolate factory here in the suburb of

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Birmingham they created called Bournville.

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The town was named Bournville to give it a continental sounding name,

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as French chocolate was at that time thought to be the best in the

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world. George Cadbury built the town as a model community for the

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people of Birmingham. With its beautiful architecture and spacious

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gardens, it's still regularly topping the poll of best places to

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live in Britain. Did they establish their factory along Quaker

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principles? It was very much run on Quaker lines, although they were

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astute businessmen. The ethics were very important in the way they

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treated their workers. The facilities they provided for them,

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the pension, the day release for extended education. The sports

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facilities. That was very much their Quaker influence. Of course,

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they treated their customers, again it was very much from Quaker

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origins. Why did so many quakers go into manufacturing? At the time

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Quakerism started, they were so much shunned by the establishment,

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in fact persecuted and imprisoned at times. The Cadbury family came

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from the West Country here, as did lots of people, not just quakers,

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to Birmingham, because they were welcomed here. You don't have to be

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a Quaker or indeed work at Cadbury to live in Bournville, but the

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friends meeting house still stands at the sten ter of the community

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where I met Anne ah third generation Quaker who's spent most

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of her life here -- stands at the centre of the community. What do

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you find attractive about Quakerism? I think it's an approach

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to life that we show our faith through the way we live, that we

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try and care for people and the environment we live in. We don't

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see ourselves as superior in any way and we don't wish to do harm to

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anyone. All sounds a bit pious. Well, no. It's a hard thing to live

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up to, but George Fox, the founder said, let your lives speak, and so

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we try to treat people in the world as we'd also like to be treated.

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Tell me about the campaign by Tesco's? We are perhaps unique in

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fighting Tescos and winning. Yes. Because the Quaker principles of

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the village were that there would be no alcohol. At the time when the

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village was built in the early 1900s, alcohol was a huge problem

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for workers and George Cadbury wanted his workers to be healthy

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and have outdoor lives and not ruin themselves on the waste their money

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by trinking. From the wild and wind swept beginnings on the Furness

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peninsula, Quakerism has grown and spread to become a world religion

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on the basis of even global businesses. At the heart of it, the

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same quiet and human principles that George forbgs formulated 400

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years ago. -- George Fox formulated 400 years ago. That is it for

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tonight. If you have a story that you think we should know about,

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drop me an e-mail. I would love to hear from you.

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Coming up on the programme next week:

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We investigate the sickening attacks on the best of man's best

:28:39.:28:43.

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