06/02/2017 Inside Out West Midlands


Nick Owen goes behind the scenes to meet Black Sabbath, as they embark on their final live tour, to find out how they have stayed on top of their game for so long.

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Hello and welcome to this week's Inside Out West Midlands.


Coming up: we've all heard of breast cancer, but how many of us realise


Half of me thought, "I'm not surprised".


The other half of me thought, "wow, I have breast cancer".


Also tonight, are Muslims discriminated against


I think there are employers out there, as soon as they see a Muslim


name, they straightaway say "no" to that person.


And Birmingham legends Black Sabbath played their last ever


gig on Saturday night, but they haven't


The Beatles came and they gave me a flash of inspiration


I'm Ayo Akinwolere and this is Inside Out.


Our first film tonight looks at a disease many of us


will have probably heard about - breast cancer.


But how many of us realise that it can affect men as well as women?


Giles Cooper from the Gloucestershire-Worchestershire


border is recovering from what many see as a women's illness.


It has made me realise there are actually not many people


out there who've got it that you can sit down and talk to.


Giles had breast cancer and a double mastectomy.


Half of me thought, "I am not surprised".


The other half, of course, is like "wow, I have breast cancer".


He was not surprised because the disease had claimed


This is my uncle, my father's brother, and he died three


Every so often, Giles has felt alone because so much


That is because breast cancer in men is so rare.


I have come to meet Giles to talk about his experiences and what has


The omens were not good and the likelihood was that


So obviously it is always on the back of your mind.


I knew deep down it probably was cancer, but when you hear those


words you automatically think the worst.


He is coming through it with the support of his wife


You can't look at statistics and results and outcomes


because they are based on women's outcomes much more


so than what would be available for men.


We did not feel that it was as easy to relax over the future.


Giles had breast cancer on his right side but decided


to have a double mastectomy as a preventative measure.


Looking back on it, it was the right decision to make


because I subsequently found out in the case of my uncle he had


cancer on the one side and then it reappeared on the other side.


Hopefully I still have a few years in me.


Fewer than 1% of breast cancer patients are men,


but Giles feels that campaigning often focuses on women.


He has even contacted the charity Breast Cancer Now


Here it says I want to help fund the future research now to stop


My argument would be, why not change that to men and women


The issue I have is that the charities tend to bury any


references to male breast cancer in their websites.


Some are like Breast Cancer Now, who quite rightly fund research


into male breast cancer, don't advertise it on their home page.


Roy Collins had breast cancer five years ago and a mastectomy.


He lives 200 miles away from Giles in East Sussex and he's agreed


I don't suppose men feel very happy about being associated


with a disease which is primarily to do with ladies.


It is not how it made me feel, but I bet there are plenty


of fellows out there who feel that they cannot have breast cancer


How useful would it be to talk things through with another man


It is amazing it has taken two years to get to today,


to find someone who I can sit down with across a table with and find


out what he has been through and what support he got.


Men are not known for opening up with each other but the conversation


The breast cancer clinic in Cheltenham is a great centre,


that feeling when I walked in of being the only man there.


Are you happy to take your shirt off in public?


We were on a boat trip and this chap got up and I noticed,


like everyone else, did that he only had one leg.


I sat and looked at him and thought, what do I have to complain about?


I found with me that the lump was round the back.


I only found it because I poked and prodded because I


How was that? It was great to meet Giles, a fellow sufferer. First time


for ASBOs. We could spoken all night.


He gives me a path that I can see that I am following.


Giles still has concerns about how publicity focuses on women,


so we're going to have one of the main charities about it


I have come to London now to the world-renowned Institute


of Cancer research where the charity Breast Cancer Now is funding a big


But I did do know enough to tell them about the risks?


The charity says 50,000 women are diagnosed with the disease


every year in the UK, compared to 359.


What we find is that to resonate with the people who are affected


by the disease in their thousands, talking about women is more


effective and helps us to get as much support for the cause


as possible, to raise as much money as possible.


Our research aims to stop men and women dying from breast cancer.


Breast Cancer Now has invested ?120 million into a long-term study


about the disease in men and will continue to support it.


This doctor is a geneticist leading a team of scientists.


They are studying 2,000 men who have breast cancer


and following our filming Giles will now be part of that study.


There are two main reasons behind our research,


firstly to understand who is getting breast cancer and the second


to get the disease treated, how does breast cancer develop


So there is lots going on in terms of finding out more


We are going to link up with Giles again now.


He had his mastectomy here in Cheltenham two years


ago and he still has to have regular checkups.


Two years on from his mastectomy that left him without nipples,


Giles is still too self-conscious to show his scars.


This photograph is of a single mastectomy.


I think people think it is worse for women in this


You would not see a woman walking down the beach having


I think it is public awareness, really.


Having lost his dad and uncle to breast cancer, Giles


But surprisingly no genetic links to his family susceptibility


to breast cancer have yet been discovered.


He has had extensive genetic testing, looking at the now and


breast cancer genes and some other genes, which are mutated Welling


creased the risk of breast cancer are little. So far nothing abnormal


has been found. With no clear pinpoint about why they men in the


family have been affected, Giles and their wife think about their


children who are in their 20s. But Giles is hopeful that taking part in


studies like the one in London when help -- will help. Hopefully I can


help their research and you never know where that might lead.


And since we made that film Breast Cancer Now has increased


the information it already had about male breast


Giles has told us he feels this is "fantastic".


Just two days ago the city ? and the world ? said goodbye to some


true legends of rock: Brummie-band Black Sabbath.


I can't imagine doing anything else. It has been an amazing journey. It


is sad it is the last show, but good we are all at the top of our game.


Inside Out has been investigating whether the under-representation


of British Muslims in top professional roles is the result


Can your name or your religion hurt your search for a job?


It's a topic of constant debate amongst many Muslims in the UK


According to a recent MP-backed report, Muslims are nearly three


times more likely to be unemployed than anyone else.


So assumptions are based on your race, gender, age, religion.


Diversity coach Sneha works with hundreds of recruitment


She claims some officers who attended her previous courses


have admitted to routinely rejecting applicants with Muslim


They've said to me, off the record, that when organisations do contact


them, they have said, "please, don't send us


And when I questioned them, as in are you colluding with them


in not sending names that are unusual or foreign


names, the recruitment consultants have said,


"well, we need business and what is the point of sending


them CVs and applications when they're just


Are Muslim applicants at a disadvantage?


Are their CV's more likely to be rejected?


To find out we are going to undertake an experiment.


If we are talking about managerial jobs, discrimination testing


at a managerial level then it's really a CV or an application


We've teamed up with one of the UK's most renowned social scientists


to help with the methodology of our experiment,


What we've done here is create two CVs that are more or less identical,


So Adam in one case we have here, and Mohamed in another.


So, aside from their very different names, our two job-seekers


Both have obtained degrees in business from top-ranking


universities and both have previously worked


They will each be submitting applications for exactly the same


100 vacancies in the highly competitive field


Later, we'll find out how they are doing.


Like many Muslim women, Zazama attends classes to help


Lessons like this are taking place across the capital,


after Government research suggested poor language skills were to blame


for high levels of unemployment among Britain's Islamic communities.


But even Muslims who speak impeccable English


I think there are employers out there who would, well,


as soon as they see a Muslim name, they could straightaway say


"Ahmed", who doesn't want to be identified,


is a building contractor and says he is speaking from experience


following a disturbing incident with a potential employer.


He mentioned that he is actually recruiting someone for


It would involve travelling to China, Japan.


It was probably my dream job, I'd say.


He said to me he'll read through the CV and he'll get back to me.


We exchanged numbers and that was that.


A few days later, "Ahmed" received a text message from the man


Wow, this could be a "yes' for me, until I opened the text.


"My previous dislike of Islam has now hardened into real hate.


"That false and decadent religion now threatens our society."


This person with so much hatred, he's got my address,


I wasn't sleeping, eating was downhill,


It was only after I got the police involved I slowly felt a bit safe.


Muslim men, like Ahmed, are 76% less likely to be


employed than their white Christian counterparts.


Growing numbers claim they are barred from work due to prejudice.


There's a perception of Muslim employees being considered disloyal,


considered to be political, their appearances sometimes are read


as them being fundamentalist and it's leading to a significant


number of Muslim employees being discriminated against.


Nabila is a barrister who represents Muslims taking legal


She believes that prejudice against Muslims in the job market


has escalated dramatically in the last 15 years.


Every time there is a terrorist incident what you will see


is there is a growth in mistreatment of employees.


There have been a spate of these cases, since 7/7 and more recently,


It's two weeks since we began our experiment to discover if having


a Muslim name harms your chances of getting work.


Our job-seekers are applying for the same positions


They have sent out 50 applications each and Adam has already received


I have a few offers to consider right now, so I will get back


There have been no calls for Mohamed.


But, there are still another 50 vacancies to apply for.


In Britain, there is a well-established tradition


where Muslims and Asians have modified their names in order


to improve their chances on the job market.


Some Muslims have even been forced by their bosses


I had a student job where the employer looked


at my name and said "oh, that won't do".


He said "introduce yourself as Terry Miles,


Some 30 years later and Fayaz, a young Muslim trying


to start his career, believes little has changed.


Since childhood, I always wanted to pursue a religious education


as a profession and I have done anything everything that I can


to make sure, you know, I get the qualifications necessary


I applied to over 30 different state schools since January 2014


and I have never been short listed for any interview.


Since then I changed my name to Harry, there were changes


It is three months since our job seekers each applied


Adam here got 12 positive responses and four inquiries


And Mohamed only got four positive responses,


What we've identified very clearly is that the Muslim-sounding person


CV is only likely to get an interview in one


Our research is based on a small sample of responses but it does


indicate a pattern of prejudice against Muslims in the UK workforce.


Some organisations are trialling name-blind CVs, which stop


recruitment officers making unfair judgments.


But unemployed chartered surveyor Khalil Ur Rahman


I have seen many people who are less skilled than me but have risen up


into more senior management positions, much faster and much


An application from a candidate like myself, at that early stage,


sometimes they don't reveal the name of the person.


But clearly when you walk into an interview, it is quite


apparent that you are not going to be John Smith.


High levels of unemployment are having a devastating effect


on Islamic communities across the capital.


More than half of Muslim households are in poverty,


Changing this will require equal access to jobs.


They played their first ever gig at this pub. After 15 years on the


road, rock legends Black Sabbath have their last ever to. Fittingly


Birmingham. We sent Nick Owen to Birmingham. We sent Nick Owen to


meet the band. It has to come to an end at some point. It is going to be


sad this is the last show, but good we are Robert the top of our game. I


am sad, but I think it is time. I can't imagine doing anything else,


it has been an amazing journey. Too many people they are like gods.


Until they arrived, the sound was not heard. Great to see them


together one last time and in their hometown. Fallout two came together


in 1968 to form Black Sabbath. 70 million record sales and a Grammy


later, they have decided to call it a day. It all started in Birmingham.


This is the street where Ozzy Osbourne lived and then around the


corner you find where built and Geezer work, and beyond that is


Tony. For talents growing up a few streets apart, who would've thought


they would go one to the world on fire? This is rare footage of the


band's first ever gig at a park in band's first ever gig at a park in


central Birmingham in 1968. How does they band that has done everything


sign of? They go back home, of course. Timing is always in my


heart. -- Birmingham. I love going into the beloved. It is where we


started. The whole world is going back to Birmingham. It sounds like


the obvious choice but it nearly didn't work out. When this tour was


first bricked it finished in South America. I said to the manager, we


cannot finish in South America, we need to do Birmingham. That is


something this Black Sabbath fan is delighted about. I am really looking


forward to it. I have butterflies and I'm nervous and I'm anticipating


it. I cannot wait to be there and to get in the arena and feel the


atmosphere. Chris Hopkins has seen the band plays 70 times and has


travelled the world to feed his obsession. I want to know what


found out they were from Birmingham found out they were from Birmingham


I was captivated. I was captured by it. I never looked back. But


Birmingham is not just the band's home city. It goes deeper than that,


Birmingham affected the whole sound of Black Sabbath and it all happens


by accident. If you do not know much about the history of Black Sabbath,


you need to know something about Tony's finger. Before they hit the


big time, the band members all had day jobs. One member nearly lost his


career before it started. I was a welder and I was going to leave the


job on that day. I went home for lunch and I said to my mum that I


was not going to go when that afternoon, I have finished. She said


to go back in and finish properly. OK. I went back to work. You have to


push the sheet metal in and the guillotine comes down. I'm putting


my hand in it and it came down, bangs. It took the end of two


fingers. The doctor said he would never play guitar again. He not only


played guitar, he invented a new sound. He could not bend the strings


properly because his fingers were cut off. He used to make little


thimbles out of fairy liquid bottles, put them over his fingers


while they were still molten and until that the top. -- and then put


leather on top. I don't know how he played like that. It took some


ingenuity to take the pressure off his fragile fingertips. He made his


guitar strings slacker and invented a new sound. I thought of heaviness.


He was a brilliant player and he played in a different way which


created something no one had heard before. A new sound needed a new


name. Although the band initially did not like the time, one music


journalist came up with the phrase heavy metal. It stuck and a musical


movement was born. The name heavy-metal did not exist before


Black Sabbath, they are heavy metal and this is embedded in Birmingham.


But does the city gives them the due date desire? Although they have


stars on the walk of Fame at Ozzy Osbourne has a tram named in his


honour. Some people do not think it is enough. We started the


heavy-metal project in 2007 because we realise that people want to come


here to see the home of Black Sabbath and other bands, but there


was nothing to come and see. You step off the train in Liverpool and


everywhere you look you will see something related to the Beatles.


That is great because that is a city embracing its heritage. When you


step off the train heard you see those signifiers and there are no


obvious landmarks for people to come and pay tribute. That is a travesty.


There is no monument to the band 's, but if there was it should be here


on summer Lane. It was here that Tony lost his fingertips working in


a factory. Surely there should be a blue plaque here at least. Last week


fans from all over the world flock to Birmingham to see the final


concert. We came from Israel. We knew we had to be here for the last


show. We come from Germany. We are coming from France for Black Sabbath


because they are big fans. The fans came to Birmingham from near and


far, and when the time finally came the band did not disappoint. What


did our fans make of it all? It was a great show. They were on top form.


The crowd went absolutely bonkers. It was a night of mixed emotion as


Black Sabbath said goodbye forever. The tour was called The End, and


that sounds pretty final. But is it really all over? I am not doing it


again. I think it is the end. People will remember us from these shows.


They are not going to see us again. We are not going to do any more


tours, at least I am not. I would not rule of -- rule out doing a one


off shore or something. So there is some hope for Black Sabbath fans.


Perhaps if it does happen, they will be back in Birmingham Sunday. I wish


I got to meet the band. Do not forget we are on iPlayer and


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They're the band who created the heavy metal sound. Now after half a century, legendary rockers Black Sabbath are on their final live tour. Nick Owen goes behind the scenes to meet the band to find out how they've stayed on top of their game for so long. And about how their distinctive sound was born in the factories and back streets of inner city Birmingham.