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13/01/2014

Dan Johnson investigates the financial affairs of the former NUM leader Arthur Scargill from the time of the miners' strike to the present day.


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It is 30 years since the miners' strike started here in Yorkshire `

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an industrial dispute which caused deep divisions and helped define Mrs

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Thatcher's Britain. Whatever the rights and wrongs, no`one can deny

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the hardship faced by the miners and their families and the devastating

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social impact of pit closures in the years that followed. But there's

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another legacy of the strike which still causes real bitterness. It's

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about money and the man who used to lead the miners, Arthur Scargill.

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Tonight, Inside Out investigates questions about money and the miners

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and asks why over the past 30 years ?700,000 has been paid to the

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National union of miners to a separate organisation of which

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Arthur Scargill is president. Loyalty to every minor and every

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minor'swife in this country. 30 years ago, Arthur Scargill could

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claim to be the most powerful trade union boss in Britain. He was always

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controversial. To his critics, he was an enemy within. To many of his

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supporters, he could do no wrong. Jim Kelly was a young miner at the

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Yorkshire Main pit at Edlington, near Doncaster. He followed Arthur

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Scargill without question. During the strike there was nothing better

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than him. We'd have followed him to the end of the world and, in effect,

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we probably did. Do you want a president who is ready to sit down

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in a backfield `` in a back room doing secret deals? Don't vote for

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me. But here at NUM headquarters in Barnsley, 30 years after the strike,

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there's a deep rift between Arthur Scargill and the man who is in

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charge of his old union. I think Arthur's lasting legacy is in two

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halves. If you take what he did during the strike, just before and

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just after then he had a very positive impact on the union.

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Unfortunately, anybody that's looking at Arthur now on recent

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events would see him in a very different light.

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Relations between Arthur Scargill and the NUM have hit rock bottom.

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There's been a series of legal disputes. In 2012, he got an out of

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court settlement from the NUM over expenses due to him, including a car

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allowance. A year ago, he lost the right to stay in his London flat for

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life at the expense of his old union. There is no question that the

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union could afford and can afford the payments of that entitlement to

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which I was entitled and am entitled and I find it rather perverse that a

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judgement of this kind can be given in today's terms. I would say it's

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time now to walk away, Mr Scargill. You've been found out. The NUM is

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not your personal bank account and never will be again.

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It was a very bitter court case. We've got two of the documents. Both

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produced in evidence, both likely to do little for Mr Scargill's

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reputation. One document dates from 1993. It's an application by Mr

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Scargill to buy his rented Barbican flat from the landlord, the

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Corporation of London, at a discounted price.

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This is where Mr Scargill lives, in a very expensive part of Central

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London. It's hardly a typical council estate. Flats here sell for

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nearly ?1 million. And Mr Scargill, perhaps Mrs Thatcher's most bitter

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enemy, was trying to use highly controversial right`to`buy

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legislation introduced by the Conservatives so tenants could buy

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their own council homes. It is so hypocritical it is unreal. It was

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Thatcher's legislation that actually gave council tenants the right to

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buy their houses. But the application was refused because it

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wasn't his primary residence. He doesn't mention in his application

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that the flat was paid for by the NUM. And, it was established in the

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Barbican court case, that from 1991 until 2008 the NUM's National

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Executive Committee didn't know it was paying for the flat. I think if

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it had been made public before then I think there'd have been a huge

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outcry. People would be actually astounded by knowing that.

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Mr Scargill told us the proposal, if accepted, would have been put to the

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NUM's National Executive and the flat would subsequently have been

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transferred to the ownership of the NUM. He says it would have saved the

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union a substantial amount of money and provided the union with an

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asset. It was a bitter court case and nothing caused more bad feeling

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than this letter, apparently written by one of Arthur Scargill's oldest

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friends and colleagues. If we honestly believe that our demands

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are justifiable. Macro. In December 2001, Frank Cave, the

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vice`president of the NUM, was dying of cancer. Mr Cave's illness

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coincided with Arthur Scargill's imminent retirement from the union

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presidency. I visited Frank on quite a few occasions over those three

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months. He was in a bad way. I've seen him over the years and he's

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that was his worst period. At that was written, parent by Mr Cave,

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setting light his entitlement. Arthur Scargill insisted in court

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that he had played no part in writing or drafting this letter.

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I've seen Frank more than most, I would suggest, and, as far as I was

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concerned, Frank wouldn't have been writing letters. An earlier draft of

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the letter which Sean, with a change in Arthur Scargill'sown handwriting.

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The issue was whether or not the letter came from Mr Scargill and Mr

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Justice Underhill found that it did. Arthur Scargill had known Frank Cave

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for nearly 40 years. He delivered the oration at his funeral. I don't

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want to actually say on camera what I actually think about the deed that

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he did. I hope with my answers that you can actually pick up what I

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actually think. I don't think very highly of the man at all for doing

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what he did. I think Justice Underhill put it quite well in his

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summing up, that when you've got somebody who has convinced himself

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as to how things are, it is a lot easier then to create the documents

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to justify that you're right and I think that's, basically, what

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happened. Arthur had a vision of what the union was, what his rights

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were, and then created the evidence to back up what he believed to be

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reality. Mr Scargill told us he stands by his evidence. He rejects

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Mr Kelly's allegation. He said the Judge had inexplicably disregarded

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other evidence in the case, indicating Mr Cave had been alert,

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aware and orientated right up to the time of his death In his judgment,

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Mr Justice Underhill said it was very unlikely Mr Cave had written

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the letter. There'd been a lack of transparency in Mr Scargill's

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dealings and he had been prepared to be economical with the truth. The

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judge said, I believe he suffers to a high degree from the common

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tendency to reconstruct his recollection in a manner favourable

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to himself. I think the common pattern has been that there's always

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been that nobody seemed to know what was happening but, documentary`wise,

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everything, all the documents seemed to be there for you to find, when

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you actually started to look at them in context and what was happening in

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the organisation at the time, it didn't seem plausible that that

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would have happened that way. To Arthur Scargill's critics, this

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lack of transparency is a familiar story. To understand the full nature

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of the fall`out between Mr Scargill and his old union, you have got to

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go back 30 years, when the miners were on strike.

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It was a fight to the finish between two bitter enemies: the NUM and Mrs

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Thatcher's government. Early in the strike, after a court case,

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accountants were called in to identify the union's assets.

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Eventually, a receiver was appointed to control the NUM's finances. The

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union effectively, very soon after the beginning of the strike, had no

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funds, no income coming in. Its members were on strike and yet there

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were expenses to be met. The NUM needed money to survive and it got

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millions of pounds in donations from supporters and well`wishers, much of

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it in cash. There are no receipts, often foreign currency, and it just

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went into St James' House, went into the headquarters, on the basis, I

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think he'd said, oh, well, you don't need a receipt you know what we're

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going to use it for anyway. Understandably, the NUM wanted to

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keep money away from its accountants. There was a need for

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secrecy. One French`based journalist remembers helping trade unionists

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bring secret donations of cash into the UK. I am absolutely confident

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that when I handed over the money, in an alleyway outside a pub in

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Folkestone or Dover, that that money was going in cash to the NUM.

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The miners visit to Libya, now there is a row back home. In October 1984,

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there was public outrage when it was revealed that Roger Windsor, the

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NUM's chief executive, had gone to Libya to meet Colonel Gaddaffi, less

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than a year after a policewoman had been shot dead outside the Libyan

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Embassy in London. I went in and embraced and kissed Colonel Gadaffi

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and gave him the story that Mr Scargill and I had agreed beforehand

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about the plight of the union, the plight of the members and what the

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Thatcher government was doing to the NUM and provided him with details of

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a bank account, a bank in 1990, there was a front page news

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story. It claimed Arthur Scargill paid off his mortgage with money

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from Libya. The main source was Roger Windsor, who was paid ?85,000

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by the Daily Mirror. It was claimed that, using Libyan money, Mr

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Scargill paid off a ?25,000 mortgage on his house. Roger Windsor had

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repaid a ?29,500 home loan and Peter Heathfield, the NUM's general

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secretary, had paid off a ?17,000 home loan.

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It was a shocking story, and very personally damaging to Arthur

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Scargill, although he decided not to sue for libel. Instead, the union

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appointed a barrister, Gavin Lightman, to make a report on the

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NUM's finances. Most people regarded Mr Lightman as sympathetic towards

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the miners. He'd given the NUM legal advice in the past.

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Were you pleased when an enquiry was set up? Years. But you wouldn't

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cooperate with it? I was advised not to participate in it. Like

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co`operated... I didn't physically attend any meetings, because I was

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advised not to. Four months later, Mr Lightman

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produced his report, saying Mr Windsor's ?29,500 loan had been paid

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from donations and a ?13,000 bill for Mr Heathfield's home

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improvements had been paid from donations. But the central

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allegation against Mr Scargill ` that he'd paid off his mortgage with

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money from Libya ` was completely untrue. The editor of the Daily

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Mirror later said the story was wrong, and apologised to Mr

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Scargill. Are you going to be president of the next national

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executive meeting, when this is discussed? Probably in the year

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2001. So Arthur Scargill hadn't paid off his mortgage. But Mr Lightman

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found that during the strike, in late 1984, money from cash donations

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had been used to pay ?6,800 of Mr Scargill's household bills. Mr

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Scargill told Mister Lightman he paid the money back in cash a few

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days later. In the past 30 years, his memory appears to have changed.

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He has now told us the ?6,800 bill was for council and water rates and

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electricity. But in October 1984, he said in a letter to the NUM's

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finance officer that more than ?6,000 of this bill was for

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improvements to his home. Quite frankly, when you look at some of

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the issues about home loans and repairing homes and things like

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that, that the meat is just a no`no. `` that the me. This is the Lightman

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Report. The NUM took court action to prevent its public distribution. So

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its full contents have never been widely known. But it was far from a

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total victory for Mr Scargill. Even today, it raises many questions.

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Mr Scargill has always disputed nearly all Lightman's findings, but

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it was only due to the Lightman Report that the NUM's executive

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committee discovered 17 secret accounts had been set up across

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Europe to take donations. There was money sloshing around in bank

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accounts with individuals' names on them, most of them who were close to

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Arthur, and it was just unhealthy. How have those questions not been

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answered, then, for 20 years or more? I think basically the

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questions haven't been answered for 20 years or more because there's

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been a feeling within the union that any attack on the union would

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reflect badly on what happened in the strike. Because it's in relation

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to the strike, it's something people didn't want to re`open. It was a

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case of the strike was right, which it was, and everything that were

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done in the name of the strike must have been done for the right

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reasons. The NUM's two senior officials, its president Arthur

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Scargill and Peter Heathfield, face charges after the report into the

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union's funds... It had been a tough time for Arthur

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Scargill but he had survived. He told us the misapprehension of funds

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had been denied by the Inland Revenue and the watchdog

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investigation failed at the Lightman report was ruled inadmissible as

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evidence. I thought you heard as I did that the prosecution offered no

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evidence. That is a vindication of our position. They offered no

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evidence against the three defendants, the Case against all of

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us was dismissed, with costs. He also told us that a special NUM

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conference in 1990 expressed total confidence in Mr Scargill and Mr

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Heathfield and ratified all of their financial dealings. It was in Paris

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that Arthur Scargill, after defeat in the miners' strike, turned more

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of his attention after 1985. The International miners Organisation,

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later renamed the ie M O, was created here, and claimed to

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represent 6 million miners. The IEMO came up in the early '80s, maybe

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before. It was an idea of both the NUM and the French miners to set up

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a new organisation which would bring together East, West, Africa, Latin

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America, Asia. The IEMO General secretary is a French trade

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unionist, Alain Simon. Someone said to me in a visit to South Africa, he

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said to me, Arthur Scargill is a hero of the working class. He is one

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of Mr Scargill's oldest colleagues and closest friends. They both

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played a leading role in founding this new, French `based

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international organisation. Mr Scargill has been president since

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1985, but, for more than 20 years, his close links with the IEMO have

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caused controversy. The NUM was challenged again today over money

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donated by Soviet miners during the miners strike.

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After the Lightman Report, the IEMO was big news. Large sums of money,

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donated during the strike, appeared to have come under its control.

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As far as Alain Simon was concerned, the Soviet money was given to the

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IEMO and not to the NUM. In the spotlight was a well`documented

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donation of ?1 million from Soviet miners. This was shown to have been

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given not for the NUM, but for miners around the world.

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Mr Simon had refused to co`operate with Lightman. Indeed, Mr Lightman

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described the secrecy surrounding the finances of the IMO as

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"practically impenetrable." These were troubled times for Mr Scargill

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and his union. The National union of Mineworkers and the IMO have agreed

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a formula which they hope will end the dispute over ?1 million. These

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are troubled times for Arthur Scargill and his union. The NUM, of

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which he was president, was in dispute with the IEMO, of which he

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was president as well. Finally, a deal was struck and the IEMO paid

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the NUM ?742,000. Mr Scargill says no money intended as donations for

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the NUM members was paid into stayed in the IMO accounts after the

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strike. He describes the ?742,000 as a donation from the IMO to the NUM,

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in return for which, the NUM agreed to make no new claims against the

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IMO. There's so little publicly available information. If it was a

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trade union, the IMO would have to comply with French laws requiring

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unions to publish accounts ` something it hasn't done since 1993.

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TRANSLATION: Probably, they didn't do, because they are not a trade

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union. The IEMO is an international organisation which brings together

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trade unions. They certainly ought to publish accounts, but they're not

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obliged to. I suspect most of it is probably still sitting somewhere,

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being given off in bits and bobs. To be honest, I don't think offered to

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any of it personally. That is not really the way he does business.

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In response to our questions about publishing the IEMO accounts, Mr

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Scargill said the IEMO had always presented its accounts in accordance

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with the instruction of its Congress. `` Arthur took any of

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We asked him what that means. So far, he hasn't got back to us.

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A freelance journalist specialising in industrial stories, Jeff Apter

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spent three years in the 1980s working for the IEMO. I travelled

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quite extensively, to various meetings. Health and safety... There

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was one in Australia, one in the Philippines ` but that was on the

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way to go to Australia. There was another one in Namibia, and one or

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two in Europe. It was not staying in posh hotels, and we were hosted by

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the unions there and I did reports. You cover trade union matters. When

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did you last write a story about the IEMO? Er... I don't think I've ever

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written a story about the IMO since the strike, since the end of the

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strike. When did you last read a story about the IMO? I can't

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remember. Is there any evidence in the last 20 years that this

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organisation has done anything productive? Well, you should ask

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somebody who is working for it or who is affiliated to it.

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For Chris Kitchen, this is more than history. Mr Scargill's supporters

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are certain all money was accounted for. But, 30 years on, Mr Kitchen's

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still concerned about the financial relationship between the NUM and the

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IEMO. So there is still a feeling that the IMO may have some money as

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far back as the strike that was destined the British miners? There

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is a feeling but looking back now, almost 30 years, it is difficult to

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try and trace funds you never had any trace of in the first place.

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Setting aside any money donated during the miners' strike, Mr

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Kitchen has established that, in the 30 years since then, the NUM paid

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the IEMO an additional ?712,000. More than ?464,000 of that is in

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subscriptions paid by the NUM between 1985 and 2010.

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Mr Scargill told us that the IEMO had in fact been entitled to more.

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The NUM should have paid ?520,000 in subscriptions, but had stopped

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paying in 2010, in breach of an NUM Conference decision. The trouble

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happened when I was asked to justify paying that amount of money, and I

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asked for the accounts from the IEMO and was refused them. Where do you

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think that ?20,000 a year has been going, what it has been spent on? I

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have no idea, that is why I wanted to see the accounts. It is

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difficult, you cannot justify expenditure if you don't know what

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it has been put to. One payment that's raised questions

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is ?145,000 paid to the IEMO in 2002, shortly before Mr Scargill's

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retirement. This was paid by the NUM without the union's National

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Executive Committee being consulted. In the case about his London flat,

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Mr Scargill said this money was the equivalent of what he could have

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expected as a severance payment. What come out in the court case was

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that Arthur's belief that he were entitled to severance redundancy

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payments from the union upon retirement. They were discretionary

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and not agreed, he hadn't asked for them.

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Mr Scargill told us this wasn't a redundancy or severance payment to

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him. It was money which would have been payable to him if he'd accepted

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a lump sum, which he hadn't. He said the grant was from an NUM trust fund

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and did not need to be referred to the union's National Executive

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Committee. The explanation that was given that was this was money that

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Arthur was entitled to receive the didn't want to receive. And

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therefore the donation of the same amount of money were made to the

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IEMO. Are you content with that? Do you think there was something more?

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Without seeing the accounts of the IEMO, you can draw different

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assumptions as to what happened to that money.

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Meanwhile, things haven't gone smoothly for Roger Windsor. He was

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accused of being an MI5 spy inside the NUM ` a claim he denied. And,

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after he moved to France, he was sued for the recovery of a ?29,500

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NUM loan which had been supposedly paid off with Libyan money during

:24:21.:24:25.

the miners' strike. A French court decided Mr Windsor had forged

:24:26.:24:29.

documents relating to his home loan. The successful legal action against

:24:30.:24:33.

him came not by the NUM, but the IEMO. Mr Scargill continued to

:24:34.:24:37.

pursue that action until eventually he obtained a court order in France

:24:38.:24:41.

for the compulsory sale of our family home and half of the proceeds

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of that sale went to the IEMO. The IEMO have now got their money

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whether I like it or not. Chris Kitchen got a shock when he

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discovered the extent to which the NUM had been funding the IEMO's

:25:00.:25:02.

legal action against Roger Windsor in France. When I looked into it,

:25:03.:25:08.

they had actually been wrongly categorised under Gavin Lightman

:25:09.:25:12.

enquiry costs, which wasn't true. So I had them reinstated in the

:25:13.:25:14.

accounts under Roger Windsor, the costs which obviously start the

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questions about, "What is the Roger Windsor case? Why are we funding it?

:25:18.:25:22.

What's it all about?" The case highlights the continuing close

:25:23.:25:24.

links between Mr Scargill and the IEMO.

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The case highlights the continuing close links between Mr Scargill and

:25:28.:25:31.

the IEMO. Correspondence recently from the IEMO has emanated from the

:25:32.:25:34.

Barbican flat. Do you think that's inappropriate? I personally think

:25:35.:25:36.

that's inappropriate. We have spent two months trying to

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get a response from Alain Simon or the IEMO, we have had none. So I

:25:49.:25:53.

have come to see if we can get some answers here.

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Their office is inside the headquarters of the CGT, the French

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equivalent of the TUC. That was interesting. I was taken up

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to the sixth floor, to the offices of the IEMO, and I met Alain

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Simon's secretary, who attends it is actually his wife. She said that

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apart from the pair of them, there is only one other person who works

:26:12.:26:16.

for the organisation, writing its journal. I ask that there was any

:26:17.:26:20.

other star and she said, no, we have got no money. She wouldn't ask ``

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answer any questions answered we needed to put further questions to

:26:28.:26:28.

Arthur Scargill. From Paris, the IEMO has now sent

:26:29.:26:32.

the NUM the ?29,500 it received for Mr Windsor's loan. Mr Scargill says

:26:33.:26:37.

the NUM agreed in 1990 to pay costs for the IEMO's legal action against

:26:38.:26:40.

Roger Windsor. He said Mr Windsor had still not paid the IEMO his

:26:41.:26:44.

total debt, and the NUM would be reimbursed when he had.

:26:45.:26:47.

The NUM says it's about to launch legal action against Arthur Scargill

:26:48.:26:50.

and Alain Simon over the legal bill, which the NUM says is more than

:26:51.:26:57.

?100,000. But Mr Scargill says that doesn't take into account money owed

:26:58.:27:04.

by the NUM to the IEMO. Mr Scargill's supporters say he's a

:27:05.:27:08.

man of complete integrity. To some, he's still a hero. But to his

:27:09.:27:13.

critics, he's left a bitter and troubled legacy. If a Mineworkers

:27:14.:27:22.

sells his job, he is selling the job that belongs to his son and his

:27:23.:27:25.

daughter, and he has got no right to sell that. Here we are in Edlington.

:27:26.:27:32.

This was actually the first colliery to be closed after the strike and we

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were huge supporters of Arthur at that time. And when you think

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there's lumps of cash lying about in bank accounts in a foreign city,

:27:40.:27:45.

it's not right. You should vote for me, because Margaret Thatcher and

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the Tories hate me and want to see me defeated. I've always said about

:27:49.:27:51.

the miners' strike and the aftermath of it all, looking at it now,

:27:52.:27:54.

Margaret Thatcher and Arthur Scargill deserved one another. These

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communities deserved neither of them. If you want a leader that is

:27:59.:28:07.

prepared to stand and fight in full view and on principle, then I am the

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person that will continue to represent the best interests of

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miners. How much has all this disappointed you? Has it shattered

:28:14.:28:18.

your illusions of the man he was, the man you thought he was?

:28:19.:28:21.

Unfortunately it has, the perception I had of Arthur the great trade

:28:22.:28:24.

unionist, socialist, just is nothing like the reality as to the man that

:28:25.:28:28.

I know now and that I've been at loggerheads with for most of my term

:28:29.:28:30.

of office. On Inside Out next week, we

:28:31.:28:47.

investigate claims by an industry expert that unregulated fracking

:28:48.:28:54.

could soon be a rare `` reality all the Yorkshire. And we follow the

:28:55.:28:57.

investigators on the Trail of the energy thieves.

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Hello, I'm Ellie Crisell with your 90-second update.

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The PM has backed fracking. He's promised councils incentives if they

:29:11.:29:13.

let companies drill for shale gas. Critics have called the offer a

:29:14.:29:16.

bribe, but the Government claims the process will give us cheaper energy.

:29:17.:29:19.

More at 10pm. The biggest public inquiry into

:29:20.:29:22.

child abuse in the UK has begun in Northern Ireland. It's looking at

:29:23.:29:26.

care in church and state-run homes over 70 years. More than 400 people

:29:27.:29:30.

have asked to give evidence. Mark Bridger was convicted of

:29:31.:29:34.

murdering April Jones last May. Today, he dropped his plan to appeal

:29:35.:29:38.

a whole-life sentence. The five-year-old's body has never been

:29:39.:29:41.

found. Is Britain on the verge of an

:29:42.:29:45.

obesity crisis? The National Obesity Forum says

:29:46.:29:46.

Dan Johnson investigates the financial affairs of the former miners' leader Arthur Scargill from the time of the miners' strike right up to the present day.


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