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So, welcome James Paterson. Thank you. What are Book Shots? Well, | :00:53. | :01:00. | |
hopefully, they're a revolution in reading and the way we look at | :01:01. | :01:05. | |
books. At the least they're going to continue an evolution. They're under | :01:06. | :01:11. | |
150 pages. Relatively inexpensive and hopefully impossible to put | :01:12. | :01:18. | |
down. It's like one of my regular books, at like 145 pages, very | :01:19. | :01:21. | |
tight. You can get on the train, you go to work, you get on the train | :01:22. | :01:25. | |
going home and you have read one. So you have accomplished something | :01:26. | :01:30. | |
which is kind of cool. The slogan is all thriller, no filler. Is that | :01:31. | :01:34. | |
what makes you think somebody will pick up one of these rather than a | :01:35. | :01:41. | |
magazine or go online? It's like reading a movie. There's no fat, | :01:42. | :01:46. | |
it's all story. You know, hopefully with good characters. If you like | :01:47. | :01:51. | |
Alex Cross, here is one you haven't read before but it just happens so | :01:52. | :01:54. | |
quickly. Here in England we are going to start with six. It's kind | :01:55. | :02:03. | |
of a category. There will be a Alex Cross, a zoo, one about the Royals | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
which is fun. There is one about a big heist, a diamond heist. Recently | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
I was interviewed in my office and I pulled out these eight very deep | :02:13. | :02:20. | |
drawers and I have 107 of these book shots that are either finished now | :02:21. | :02:25. | |
or in process and of the so 7 I would say 80 are stories that I | :02:26. | :02:29. | |
created. It's like, oh, my God, the person | :02:30. | :02:32. | |
that interviewed me over there went like this is insane. This is crazy, | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
I said, great, this is insane. But I think for readers this is going to | :02:38. | :02:43. | |
be a real boon. Because they are addictive. | :02:44. | :02:47. | |
You have written some of them but like your full-length novel, you | :02:48. | :02:50. | |
employ a team of co-writers, tell us a bit about how that works, | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
I wrote last year over 2000 pages of outlines. | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
My outlines are always three or four drafts. | :02:59. | :03:00. | |
And usually when I co-write a book, I write | :03:01. | :03:08. | |
an outline, for these it may be 30 pages and it is chapter by chapter. | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
And what I will do with the co-writer | :03:13. | :03:15. | |
is give them the outline, I will say please contribute to the | :03:16. | :03:17. | |
outline because that is useful and it gets the co-writer | :03:18. | :03:20. | |
The template for the BookShots is every single chapter moves | :03:21. | :03:30. | |
both the characterisation and the story forward and turns on the | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
meaning you can't see it, you can't feel it, and taste it | :03:35. | :03:45. | |
and smell it, if it is not moving forward and I'm not interested | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
characters I will say, hold it, we have lost something here. | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
Then I will make suggestions and occasionally | :03:52. | :04:00. | |
I did not figure out the outline correctly or more often | :04:01. | :04:02. | |
If you look at them, they are smaller, | :04:03. | :04:14. | |
thinner and hopefully on the trains and planes you will see | :04:15. | :04:17. | |
I have read that you work seven days a week, | :04:18. | :04:24. | |
52 weeks of the year, is that true, do you not | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
even take a day off for Christmas day? | :04:28. | :04:31. | |
Christmas I would say would be a very light day but generally | :04:32. | :04:34. | |
Somebody said you are lucky if you find something you like | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
to do and it is a miracle if somebody will pay you to do it. | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
Doing these BookShots, it has been the most fun year | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
of my life, because I love to tell stories and I was | :04:49. | :04:57. | |
blocked with the books I had because I had the Alex Cross | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
and it was like we don't need any more hardback, | :05:01. | :05:04. | |
so there was no place for me to let my imagination go | :05:05. | :05:07. | |
I will have more content than Marvel by the end of this year. | :05:08. | :05:12. | |
It is little wonder that you are known as the busiest man | :05:13. | :05:15. | |
in publishing, not just because of the number of books you write, | :05:16. | :05:18. | |
but because of the time and the money you spend | :05:19. | :05:21. | |
on championing literacy, why is that so important? | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
For me, the most important thing is getting kids reading. | :05:27. | :05:29. | |
Because if our kids do not become competent readers, | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
especially kids at risk, how are they going | :05:33. | :05:34. | |
If they get through, ten and 11 and they are not competent... | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
There'll be a drag on society and the city | :05:41. | :05:46. | |
and all of us, and it will make for a harder life for them | :05:47. | :05:50. | |
As an individual I can't do much to solve global warming | :05:51. | :06:00. | |
or health care crisis, whatever, but as an individual | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
we can all get the kids in our homes reading, mostly, | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
we can help the local school, we can help the local libraries, | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
libraries are a big issue now and how they get funded in England. | :06:12. | :06:15. | |
I just hope that people will stand up and go, | :06:16. | :06:18. | |
our libraries are really important, we need the money for libraries. | :06:19. | :06:21. | |
How much does your interest in this stem from the fact | :06:22. | :06:25. | |
that you had a son who was a reluctant reader? | :06:26. | :06:28. | |
When he was eight-years-old, that summer, we said you can read every | :06:29. | :06:37. | |
And we said yes, unless you want to live in the garage because we read | :06:38. | :06:44. | |
But we said this is going to be painless, | :06:45. | :06:58. | |
so we've got a dozen books like Percy Jackson, | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
and one of mine and by the end of the summer Jack had read | :07:03. | :07:05. | |
a dozen books and his reading skills went up dramatically, | :07:06. | :07:08. | |
and ultimately they have SAT scores in America | :07:09. | :07:10. | |
so a perfect score in reading is 800 and he had 800 in reading, | :07:11. | :07:13. | |
and he is going to an Ivy League college. | :07:14. | :07:15. | |
In terms of what can happen, if you take charge | :07:16. | :07:18. | |
with your children, make it your responsibility. | :07:19. | :07:19. | |
There is nothing more important than a mother or | :07:20. | :07:21. | |
father or grandparents to do than make sure the kids read. | :07:22. | :07:25. | |
It is good you get them out with exercise but they | :07:26. | :07:30. | |
You are hugely successful, a writer of | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
commercial mainstream fiction, do you hanker | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
after writing the great American novel? | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
I have already - they are just commercial! | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
On my gravestone, "James kept a lot of people up late at night." | :07:46. | :07:56. | |
And BookShots are going to be one of the reasons. | :07:57. | :07:58. | |
This is going to change the way people read. | :07:59. | :08:15. | |
Although she says that she thinks of it as comic, the comedy is darker | :08:16. | :08:23. | |
than forever. For one of our most prolific and most read authors Crock | :08:24. | :08:30. | |
lat was an international bestseller and memorable film. | :08:31. | :08:36. | |
Sler An exploration of some of the most troubling relationships between | :08:37. | :08:43. | |
teachers and pupils and the havoc they can sometimes wreak. It strikes | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
me that schools attract you, you like them, don't you? I am very | :08:48. | :08:52. | |
fobbed of schools, I taught in them for 15 years and they're wonderful | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
observations of community. The observation here is as I said at | :08:57. | :09:01. | |
the beginning, pretty dark. It's funny, it's touching. But it goes to | :09:02. | :09:07. | |
some very dark places. Both in terms of the staff and their charges. It | :09:08. | :09:12. | |
does. I found that schools are a kind of perpetual stage for tragedy | :09:13. | :09:15. | |
and farce and everything in between. So many things can happen. It's an | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
unpredictable environment. And that isn't just because of setting, it's | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
because of the age of those involved. You are talking about | :09:24. | :09:28. | |
adolescents going through crises, some imagined, some real and | :09:29. | :09:32. | |
relationships with teachers which are inevitably delicate things. I | :09:33. | :09:38. | |
think so, yes. It's an intense stage of life, adolescence, you feel | :09:39. | :09:41. | |
things very strongly. You can experience experience things for the | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
first time and they can be powerful that they're completely create an | :09:47. | :09:50. | |
upheaval in your life. I found it interesting to be part of but it's | :09:51. | :09:53. | |
daunting as well because later I realised as a teacher you can really | :09:54. | :09:56. | |
influence somebody's life and people remember you and they remember what | :09:57. | :10:00. | |
you said and if it was unfair they will resent it in a way that an | :10:01. | :10:04. | |
adult I don't think would resent. Some bad things happen in this book, | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
I will not talk about what they are, it's safe to say you are led into | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
territory that's become more familiar to us in the last two or | :10:12. | :10:17. | |
three years, allegations of sexual impropriety and misconduct and so on | :10:18. | :10:22. | |
and emotional trauma with staff and pupils, did you know that's what you | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
were getting into when you started? Not entirely, no. I think what | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
happened was I started off with a germ of an idea in this book and | :10:29. | :10:34. | |
then in real life Operation Yewtree started to unfold and I found there | :10:35. | :10:37. | |
was an uncomfortable crossover in what I was writing about and what | :10:38. | :10:40. | |
happened in the world. It became much darker and more topical than I | :10:41. | :10:43. | |
thought it would be. You touch on the question in this book of | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
atmospheres that can develop, rather hysterical ones leading to a kind of | :10:49. | :10:53. | |
almost a witch-hunt atmosphere, or a territory where there are false | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
accusations and difficulties and great damage done as a consequence. | :10:57. | :11:00. | |
It's something that clearly fascinates you, the unfairness that | :11:01. | :11:04. | |
is lurking there under the surface. Yes, I think so. Also the past and | :11:05. | :11:10. | |
how the past affects the present. And how memory is not inherently a | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
reliable tool, particularly when dealing with experiences of trauma, | :11:17. | :11:20. | |
how memory can be affected by all kind of things happening in the | :11:21. | :11:25. | |
present day and how memory can sometimes be both unreliable and | :11:26. | :11:31. | |
frightening. The main character has been a teacher for a long time, this | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
has happened to him again and again. There's that interesting sense of | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
having seen generations of pupils coming through in his case to learn | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
classics or not to learn, first of all, you clearly adore him. I am | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
very fond of him. We are not entirely the same person but I might | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
have grown into him if I stayed at the school in which I taught for | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
long enough. He's flawed in a lot of ways but ultimately he has a good | :11:57. | :11:59. | |
heart. He is warm, he is affectionate. He loves his job. He | :12:00. | :12:03. | |
is aware of the consequences of the job that he does. He is aware that | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
he is affecting young lives and he has a strong sense of duty. I also | :12:09. | :12:13. | |
like the fact that he is a bit of a subversive. That he has various | :12:14. | :12:18. | |
prejudices which is unaware of, he has favourites and he is unaware of | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
this. He is bad with technology. He likes the odd sneaky fag outside | :12:23. | :12:26. | |
when he shouldn't have. One of the interesting things about the way you | :12:27. | :12:30. | |
construct the narrative here is that you have got an older man talking | :12:31. | :12:39. | |
but you have youngsters as well so they're inhabiting different - | :12:40. | :12:41. | |
they're in the same place in the school. That's right. I had the | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
benefit of being in that environment for long enough to pick up a lot of | :12:46. | :12:50. | |
voices, to remember the way teenager boys talked, the way older members | :12:51. | :12:55. | |
of staff talked, and so I have borrowed from colleagues, from | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
pupils who are now ex-pupils and watch the whole process with joy | :13:00. | :13:10. | |
from Twitter and Facebook. You are a great Twitter user? I am, yes. A lot | :13:11. | :13:14. | |
of boys say I remember this and read this book and often they turn up to | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
readings and of course they all think I am writing about them, which | :13:18. | :13:25. | |
isn't quite true, but there are certainly little vinets. It's a dark | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
story but you are having fun. You are a successful author, widely | :13:30. | :13:36. | |
read, are you irritated when people say you are the Chocolate woman? | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
Does it sometimes hang around your neck? Inevitably a little. I am very | :13:42. | :13:47. | |
grateful for the response to it and the fact that people loved it and I | :13:48. | :13:52. | |
love it too and I am still writing about those characters. What I find | :13:53. | :13:59. | |
irssome, if anything, is that assumption I will do the same thing. | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
I could go in almost any direction and have done, I am lucky in that | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
sense. You are and you take what I might call the authorial | :14:09. | :14:10. | |
responsibility seriously. You are speaking up for authors and recently | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
you talked about not going to one nameless literary Festival because | :14:17. | :14:20. | |
they were expecting all kind of things and exclusive contracts and | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
saying, hang on, authors deserve to be treated in a better way. It's not | :14:24. | :14:27. | |
just about me, about me wanting money or special treatment, | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
completely the opposite. I would like is for people to see writing as | :14:31. | :14:36. | |
a job, it's a profession. And to treat authors professionally and | :14:37. | :14:39. | |
this is particularly important for young authors who have a real | :14:40. | :14:41. | |
difficulty sometimes in getting to Festivals because of what it's going | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
to cost them. They don't make much money writing, contrary to public | :14:47. | :14:49. | |
opinion. Absolutely. The average salary for professional author is | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
?11 thousand a year, according to the Society of Authors, this isn't | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
much, not many of us get to write for a living and make a reasonable | :14:57. | :15:00. | |
living out of it. You are an author who conforms I think to one of the | :15:01. | :15:04. | |
wonderful stereotypes, you work in a shed at the bottom of the garden. I | :15:05. | :15:11. | |
do, yes. You enter a different world when you are there? Shed world is a | :15:12. | :15:17. | |
specific space. It's psychologically important for an author to have a | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
work space, particularly somebody like me who was on a timetable for a | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
long time, it's difficult to manage time and difficult to get into the | :15:25. | :15:28. | |
psychological head space of writing. So I think it's important to create | :15:29. | :15:33. | |
a place where you work and nothing else happens, whether it's a shed, | :15:34. | :15:37. | |
whether it's a desk, when I was just starting off I didn't have a desk, | :15:38. | :15:41. | |
so I had two objects that I would put in front of my laptop when I | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
wanted to write and that created the work space, wherever it was. | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Sometimes I am working on two at once, in fact nearly always because | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
I have books I write on sunny days and book I write on dark days. This | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
was a dark day book? Definitely a dark day book. Although it has some | :15:59. | :16:03. | |
glimpses of sunshine in there. I should say it's fun, as well. Joanne | :16:04. | :16:04. | |
Harris, thank you very much. Well, this is about as much snow as | :16:05. | :16:15. | |
I can offer in this weather forecast. It's going to be an | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
incredibly mild Christmas, pretty windy too, especially across | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
Scotland, particularly Boxing Day. It will be stormy there. This is the | :16:24. | :16:28. | |
next storm, | :16:29. | :16:29. |