01/07/2011 Newsnight


01/07/2011

Analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Kirsty Wark, including a possible revival for Dominique Strauss-Kahn's 2012 French presidential bid.


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Tonight, Newsnight learns that America is considering a plan to

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enter Pakistan in the country's nuclear material should be in

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danger of falling into terrorist hands.

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The US Government is very concerned about the possibility that nuclear

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weapons can be lost in Pakistan as a result of the Pakistani society

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falling apart. Pakistan's High Commisioner will tell us what he

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makes of that. We will ask him why relations between Islamabad and

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Washington seem to be so bad. In New York, Dominique Strauss-Khan

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is freed from house arrest, but he still faces a lengthy charge sheet.

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The only defence that Dominique Strauss-Khan has s that this sexual

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encounter was consensual. That is a lie.

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One of America's top lawyers assess whether the case against him is

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falling apart. Andy Murray says Scottish for

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another year, will he ever make it to the Wimbledon final, Tim Henman

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gives Newsnight his verdict. Good evening. Newsnight has

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discovered that the United States is so concerned about security in

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Pakistan, that worst case scenario plans are being discussed to enter

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the country to stop extremists getting hold of nuclear material.

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Following their success with Osama Bin Laden a mission carried out

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without Islamabad knowledge, we are told the Americans are once again

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warm to go the idea of a pre- emptive operation to stop

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terrorists in their tracks. Relations between the two countries

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seem to be close to an all-time-low. Just this week Pakistan stopped

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drone flights from a base, and ordered US personnel to leave. In a

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moment we will speak to Pakistan's High Commisioner to London.

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First Richard Watson reports. Pakistan might yet prove to be the

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major challenge in the so-called war on terror. The rising

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confidence of extremist groups, in a constricting democratic space, is

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making observers extremely nervous, especially as the country is home

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to what the Jihadist like to call, the Islamic bomb. The last time the

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world go so jittery about nuclear security in Pakistan was nearly -

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got to jittery about nuclear security in Pakistan was after the

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9/11 attacks. Newsnight has been told these plans are coming to the

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fore once again, as the west contemplate as country fast

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expanding its nuclear arsenal, at a time of acute weakness. As one

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security source said tonight, it is a volatile mix.

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These are the images behind the latest attack of nerves. A naval

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base near Karachi, attacked and occupied in May by a band of

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heavily armed insurgents. They destroyed two US-made spy planes in

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a well-executed operation, which is believed to have received support

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from elements within Pakistan's Armed Forces. The American author

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of a new report published today, which charts nuclear proliferation,

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is worried. The raid on that particular facility was unique n a

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sense, in that it was the first time an organised group was able to

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get inside to a heavily armed military facility, and move around

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inside, and conduct devastating attacks against elements of the

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facility. In this case they particularly went, of course, after

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US supplied P3 maritime surveillance aircraft.

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Pakistan's nuclear assets are spread across the country. Partly

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for defensive reasons. Open source research reports and information we

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obtained to an overseas intelligence source leads to this

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map. Nuclear reactors. Uranium enrichment at these sites.

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Plutonium reprocessing at Rawalpindi and Chasma. Crucially it

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has assessed there are weaponisation programmes at Wah,

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and close to where Osama Bin Laden was based. There are now believed

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Are they secure? Extremists are said to have taked three nuclear

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sites in the past five years. able to find at least three

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instances of attacks against the, again, allegedly, or supposedly,

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secured, military-related facilities. This extends back over

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the past, probably three or four years i can recall one against what

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we would call a missile storage site a few years back. I don't

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think the attack was wholly successful, but again, what it

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indicates is a level of brazenness, and perhaps even sophistication, in

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the fact that these kind of attacks can be co-ordinated by extremists

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in country. Al-Qaeda's leaders have long harboured to obtain and

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detonate a nuclear device. Al-Zawahiri said he would travel to

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Daghestan in 1998, a repute the source of ex-society nuclear

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weapons, says an Al-Qaeda insider. He told me there was an

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investigation of the environment, the possibility of getting the

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weapon itself, weapons of mass destruction, or the material, which

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might help Al-Qaeda to build their own plant. He was arrested for six

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months, it is fact, without a doubt. Why go to former Soviet Republic,

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if weapons or radioactive material for a so-called dirty bomb can be

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procured from inside Pakistan. Islamist groups have targtded the

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Armed Forces with this in mind. there are people inside the

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military command structure, that is in charge of these weapons, that

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are sympathetic to extremists and under the right circumstances could

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take action and either enable people from outside to get in,

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where they otherwise wouldn't be able to get in, or simply divert,

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by using a unit, try to divert some weapons during a crisis or

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something like that. The Pakistani army has

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internationally agreed safety protocols designed to protect their

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nuclear assets. Warheads and detonators are stored separately

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there are security codes, with inside help, anything might be

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possible, it is feared. There is no question America is extremely

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concerned about the nuclear sites inside Pakistan. There are

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certainly contingency plans that have been made by the Americans,

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probably involving British elements, to oversee those sites and in the

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event of their falling into the wrong hands, to intervene. So what

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would a plan look like? We asked a former CIA nuclear proliferation

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expert and former adviser to the Clinton administration? Governments

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aren't thinking about how they wo respond, you know, they are not

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preparing and they are not doing their job if they don't. It would

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be an operation both from those who would try to remove materials and

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those who might respond, of such complexity, that we are almost

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entering into unchartered territory. Again, we are on the extreme edges

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of the real, I hope. There was a particular effort under what was

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known as the global strike programme, which is, of course,

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part of the US strategic command's plan to go out and take out WMD

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facilities or facilities on a global scale. It is a global

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programme in how far it is in Pakistan and in terms of real plans

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I have no way of knowing. Some Pakistan watchers believe raising

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nuclear security now is deliberately provocative, at a time

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when relations are so tense. Any plan to go in would be a disaster?

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This is not a Bin Laden raid, this is for them, something far, far

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bigger and more serious. If the US were foolish enough to do this,

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they would be setting a precedent, for example, with Israel, would

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there be anything to stop Israel going and attacking Iran. It is a

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very dangerous precedent to set. The west wants to see tough action

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inside Pakistan. The arrests of an army Brigadier for alleged

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extremist links, was made public, an encouraging sign at a time of

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tension. Watching that with us the Pakistan

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High Commisioner in London, Wajid Shamsul Hasan. Good evening. Good

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evening. How safe are your nuclear weapons' facilities? Well, I'm not

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a professional nuclear expert, number one, but whatever little I

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know about it is that IEA, NATO, Americans, CIA, and other

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organisations, has certified that Pakistan nuclear weapons are in

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safe hands, they are secure, they are not easily accessible. But, the

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IEA is talking about obviously your nuclear facility for power. You are

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telling me the CIA say they are happy with the weapons facilities

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about the country? Even NATO has said they are satisfied with

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Pakistan's security measures. by the reckoning, you have 90-100

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warheads at the moment, you are adding 10-15 each year? You are

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telling me the figure, I don't know. That is the sources. That is like a

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Hollywood fictional script. Is it like a fictional script? The

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Jihadis talk about the Pakistani bomb. You say Pakistani bomb, not

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Islamic bomb. They say the, the Jihadis say. They say so many

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things. You don't have to take them seriously. But, you would have

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heard Mr Christianson saying that the measures that Pakistan has

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taken are unclear. He, afterall, is the director of the nuclear

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information project, he says the measures you have taken to secure

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these areas are unclear, and that is what is making the Americans so

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jittery. The IEA has been there, the watchdog authority on nuclear

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things, it has certified that Pakistan is safe. So we cannot

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dispute that. We don't know who the people they are, what sort of

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condition they have, but when the IEA say that we don't believe it.

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It is very strange. But there is evidence of insecurity, because you

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have the attack on the Karachi naval bai, and also the unmasking

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of the Brigadier, openly talked about, who had extremist links.

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There is an insecurity in your security forces? My simple answer

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would be what about 9/11, Pentagon, they could be attacked, any place

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could be attacked. Mumbai, despite security was attacked, Sharm El-

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Sheikh, despite all intelligence presence there, it was attacked.

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Bali was attacked. So many other places were attacked by these

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terrorists. But you are saying, you are saying that actually all your

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nuclear weapons are stored safe and sound, and after the raid on Osama

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Bin Laden, of course, which was a great success in the American eyes,

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and indeed in Pakistan's eyes, although they were horrified not to

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be involved. The Americans feel emboldened by that, it would seem

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if they think that there is a problem, they are prepared to take

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pre-emptive unilateral action. Americans did take pre-emptive

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unilateral action against Osama, and they got him. I'm sure they

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must be regreting it now, that they should have informed Pakistan, but

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since there was a time lag and they didn't inform. The thing is, it is

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all talk. They are planning to attack, they are doing this and

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that. Our relations have worsened, our relations have not woreened. To

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that extent, as to call it bad. Hillary Clinton was visiting

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Pakistan and she was happy and satisfied with what was happening.

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Even when President Obama was here, and when he was talking with Prime

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Minister Cameron, and Prime Minister Cameron said it very

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clearly, the enemy of Pakistan is our enemy, and this afternoon when

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the President of Pakistan was meeting him, he said Pakistan's

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future is Britain's future. Pakistan's future is Britain's

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future, and therefore, security is one of the most important issues.

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So if the Americans were to move in and take pre-emptive action on

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sites they have identified, and our sources say these plans are in

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place. What would Pakistan's reaction be? Again, you are a very

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hypothetical in your questioning, it doesn't have any sound basis.

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The Americans planning to do this, and the Americans wouldn't do that.

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They did do it with Osama Bin Laden? Let me tell you, if I were

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to see him, or any Pakistani, with so much money on his head, they

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would have killed him. So Osama was a known tart. These national assets

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will be protected by each and every Pakistani, including the Armed

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Forces. Like at Shamzi now, the Government in Islamabad has ordered

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the Americans to stop the drone flights and American personnel to

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get out. That is not a signal of good relations, is it? Again it is

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a Misper exception. Americans have themselves said they never flew

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their drones from Pakistani territory. They have proved it time

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and again, and said it time and again, and they have not done that.

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But you want American personnel out of that area? We want the Americans

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to give us drones so we should use them, instead of our space being

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used by them. High Commisioner thank you very much indeed.

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Today there were dramatic scenes inside and outside a Manhattan

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courtroom, as the former IMF chief, Dominique Strauss-Khan, was

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released from house arrest, but ordered to remain in the country

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for another hearing on July 18th. He still face seven serious charges

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over the alleged attack on a hotel maid in New York. But the judge

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said he understood the circumstances of the case had

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changed substantially, now Strauss- Khan's supporters in France have

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been given fresh hope of an improbable comeback. Could he still

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with the socialist presidential candidate. It has been an

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extraordinary day? Absolutely. Everyone thought this would be the

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centre of the cautious we thought all of the charges would be dropped.

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They haven't been. Why was that? was because of a report in the New

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York Times. They reported two law enforcement officers, as they say

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they were, they were saying there were flaws in the witnesses

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statement. She claims that after she was allegedly raped she went

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and reported it straight away. There is evidence to suggest she

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didn't, she went and cleaned another room and took her time to

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report it. They also say she lied on her asylum claims, her

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credibility is not what it was. You can see why Dominique Strauss-Khan

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woke up this morning thinking he might be a man who was in a

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slightly better place than he was six weeks ago. We saw pictures of

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him in court, you can see his whole demeanor is different to what it

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was, he's there with his wife. They both look, not chipper, but calm,

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and they look relaxed. There is a bit of a swagger about Dominique

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Strauss-Khan? Something like a smirk there, not the pictures we

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have seen in the past of him, he looked nothing like that. Cast your

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mind back to six weeks ago, here he is in the dock, jouly, heavy lided,

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tired. These are the pictures beamed across the world, a guilty

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man. A different picture. This Case has been studded with dramatic, we

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have the lawyer, who represents P Diddy and other superstars, is a

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star in his own right, this is his statement saying the case was

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almost over. We asked the public not to rush to judgment, now you

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can see why. We believed from the start this case was not what it

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appeared to be. We are convinced that today is the first giant step

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in the right direction, the next step will lead to a complete

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dismissal of the charges. He hopes, but, of course, what

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actually has changed today? only thing that has changed today

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is the bail conditions. He still is facing these charges. We have

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Benjamin Brafman there saying his client's in the clear, on the other

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side we have the alleged victim's representatives saying he's

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absolutely not. The scene that followed Benjamin Brafman's

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statement here were quite extraordinary, we saw her

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representative using the most lurid, explicit and aggressive language to

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describe exactly what he thought had happened, saying this was not

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consensual. Some people might find this quite offensive, this shows

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you what was going on outside the court today. He grabbed her vagina

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with so much force that he bruised her vagina. When she went to the

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hospital later that day, the nurses who examined her saw the bruises on

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her vagina that were caused by Dominique Strauss-Khan's hand. They

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took pictures of the bruises on her vagina, and the District Attorney

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has those pictures. That is language that is designed to shock.

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I have never heard anything like that outside any court anywhere in

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the world. That is specifically designed to make an impact, this is

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lunchtime in the US, going out on the networks over there, quite

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unprecedented. You have to question the motivation behind that kind of

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performance. In France, there is all this talk about a possible

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comeback for Dominique Strauss-Khan as the socialist presidential

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candidate? This morning there was even talk that he could be the

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President of France. We have got the primaries closing on the 13th,

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he's due back in Manhattan five days later, it is certainly not

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looking good. Yes, it has been a slightly better day for him, but he

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still wakes up tomorrow, although he's not under house arrest, he is

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still facing seven serious charges here, he's not anywhere near in the

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clear yet. Joining us from Martha's Vineyard,

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is distinguished lawyer, Alan Dershowitz, and Dominique Strauss-

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Khan's biographer. First of all, Alan Dershowitz, what

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is the dynamic of this case now? This case is over. There is only

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the technicality of when it will be dismissed. Nobody knows, nobody

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will ever know what happened in that hotel room, what we do know is

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that the witness simply doesn't have the kind of credibility

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required to make a case beyond a reasonable doubt. She has allegedly

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lied about previously being raped, she has allegedly lied on her

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application for amnesty. She will be lucky if she's not deported at

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the end of this matter. She came into the case hoping perhaps to

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come away with several million dollars, she will be very fortunate

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if she comes awhich with the status quo preserved. This is a very good

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day for the defendant and justice in America. The prosecution came

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forward and produced the conclusions of the investigation

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and made it clear this case is a weak one. The weakness of the

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American system is it has the perp walk, in which it presents the

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defendant as guilty, it withholds the name of the victim, which

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suggests that she is a real victim and that the defendant is guilty,

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it undercuts the presumption of innocence. It will cause many

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Americans to re-think how we prosecute cases of this kind.

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charges are serious charges, still standing of tonight, and Dominique

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Strauss-Khan is still due in court on the 18th of July? These charges

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will stand, and he remain as defendant, but I think anybody who

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has any understanding of the American criminal justice system

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has to say, unless some miraculous new evidence will come forward, I

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can't imagine what that will be, short of a video tape, no

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prosecutor will want to vouch for the victim's credibility, and say

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ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this is a witness we are asking you

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to believe on the basis of her word and put someone in jail for a long

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time. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt requires more credibility

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than this witness is prepared to present. This creates a terrible

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problem, it means that sometimes women who are actually raped but

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who have terrible backgrounds, backgrounds of criminality or lack

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of credibility, cannot get justice. That's why we say better ten guilty

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people go free than one innocent person be wrongly convicted. This

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may be a case that fits that description, nobody will know for

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sure. What do you make of it, from a legal point of view, we may never

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know what happened in that bedroom, we may never know what Dominique

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Strauss-Khan actually did, but because this witness has changed

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her story, we will never maybe know. Dominique Strauss-Khan, in a sense,

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will he ever be free of this, if he is actually acquitted, or if the

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case falls? You know, I'm not a friend of Strauss strau, I'm just a

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journalist, just a journalist who did - Dominique Strauss-Khan, I'm

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just a journalist who did his work. During the work, during my

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investigations of more than two years for writing this book, the

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biography of Dominique Strauss-Khan, that is called The True Story of

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Strauss-Khan strau, I have met more than 60 people, his political

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enemies and friends, his first wife, his actual woif. I twelve his

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political story - wife, I twelve his political story and also in

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this book about his relations with women. Why do I talk about this

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question, it is because in France there were a lot of rumour about

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his attitude with women. My conviction, not a personal

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conviction, but a conviction after a big work about his life, after

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having met a lot of people, is that this man is a typical French lover,

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he's a great seducer, but completely unable to do any

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violence, any act of violence against a woman. We don't...I

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that before May 14th, I say that after May 14th, and today I don't

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change my words, you know. I don't change my mind. But, Alan

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Dershowitz, on that point, let's pick up on that, there is Dominique

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Strauss-Khan's biographer, let's be clear about this, in a situation of

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power, we never know, as you say what happens behind that bedroom

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door, and as you say, we may never know what actually happened,

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therefore, how do you think the frenzy around this case in America,

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will go on from this now. What do you think people's view of

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Dominique Strauss-Khan will be? think he will be viewed the way

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many defendants are viewed, when their cases are dismissed, the

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court of public opinion and the court of history, often makes

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different judgments from a court of law, in the court of law the burden

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of proof is very, very high, for historians, for journalist, the

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burden of proof is some what lower, people can come away concluding

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that we don't approve of the conduct that we believe this man

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engaged in, but there was insufficient evidence to convict

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him of a crime. Some people may come away thinking he was

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absolutely innocent, perhaps even framed, there is no real evidence

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there was a set up here. But perhaps that this woman took

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advantage of the situation, considering her background, and

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he's the real victim. It will end up being a mixed picture. I would

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hope that since there is not sufficient evidence to conclude he

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is a criminal, that the presumption of innocence will apply. He will be

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able to go back to life as normal. He will always be kind of

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representative of this problem of how do you prosecute "he said/she

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said" rape cases that happen in a room. This is one of the most

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difficult and daunting challenges our legal system faces today. I

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think Americans have learned a lesson from this, don't jump to

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conclusion, don't conclude a person is guilty before all the evidence

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is there. Sorry to interrupt, I will put one point there, go back

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to life as it is, is what might happen. Life as it is, is that the

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possibility of the reemergesence of reemergence of Dominique Strauss-

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Khan, even as the socialist candidate for President? What I

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have always said since the beginning of the scandal is that

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the main problem for Dominique Strauss-Khan was the judiciary

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problem. But in the case of, if this judiciary problem is finished,

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is over, as there is no reason that Dominique Strauss-Khan cannot come

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back to French policy, and now the decision, the decision belongs to

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himself and to his wife and family. You know he has suffered a lot in

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this situation, and there is no reason for not to come back, but it

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is his own personal decision. Thank you very much, we are out of

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time. At 7.45 this evening, Andy Murray's hopes of playing in the

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Wimbledon final were dashed, as he was defeated for the 12th time in

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his career by the champion, Rafael Nadal. After winning a blistering

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first set, the momentum went away very suddenly, when mid-way through

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the second, he sent a forehand back beyond Nadal's line, from this

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Nadal looked the more confident Well earlier I asked four-times

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Wimbledon semifinalists Tim Henman whether the problems for Murray was

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all psychological, is it that he hadn't prepared for a moment like

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that when he he couldn't get over? He played faultless tennis up until

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then. My disappointment for the match thank moment in time is it

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really took Murray quite a long time to regroup. I think if the

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roles had been reversed and Nadal had been up a set and had those

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opportunities and hadn't taken it, then perhaps he would have had a

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few hiccups for a couple of minutes, where as with Murray, unfortunately

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it lasted seven games N that moment in time, through that period, Nadal

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raised his game, and then once you give him an opportunity, his level

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was phenomenal. John McEnroe's analysis is Murray don't get angry

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enough. Ironically we have seen him angry in the past. You were in

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semifinals in the past, maybe there is a thing you don't get angry

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enough. You just don't psyche yourselves up hard enough, do you

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see that in Murray? No, not at all. I look at the semifinals and I

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would say that probably was pblt good enough, I lost to Sampras

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twice, Hewitt was world number one, and Ivanisavic in a Vicky three-day

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match. There is - a tricky three- day match. There is all this talk

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about Murray and being in control with his emotions and he hasn't had

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all the problems on the court, and now everyone is saying he needs to

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get angry again. It is a fine line. Murray is doubtless, he's

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physically much, much stronger, he's in much better shape in that

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way,'s changed trainers, there is been a bit of churn, has that been

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an issue? No, you are making a comparison with Murray and one of

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the best, the number one player in the world today, and who is going

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to go down as one of the best players in history. Nadal has won

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ten slam, and Murray's game is still exceptional. He's four in the

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world for a reason. You don't get to that level without being a very

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good player. And the exciting thing is that he can get better. And he

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needs to get better if he's going to win these majors, because the

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rather that he's in is probably the tough Esther ra ever.

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Next year. That - toughest era ever. On Monday, Jeremy will be here with

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