20/04/2012 Newsnight


20/04/2012

What is The Omnishambles? What has it to do with cabinet splits over the European Court? And should the Bahrain Grand Prix be scrapped? With Gavin Esler.


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It's been yet another bad week for David Cameron's Government, rows

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over extradition and Lords reform, coming after all that budget fall-

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out, is fact following fiction? you, you're a BEEPing omnishambles,

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you're like that coffee machine, from bean to cup, you BEEP up.

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opposition stealing the line from a TV comedy, is David Cameron really

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presiding over omnishambles. The latest outbreak of ill feeling in

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the cabinet is from the European Court of Human Rights, we have some

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fresh revelations. Inside the cabinet they have been

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rowing and banging the table over whether to demand reform over the

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court's powers, it is Keneth Clarke versus Michael Gove. Two

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Conservatives who disagree on what is wrong with the coalition are

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here. Given the catalogue of human rights

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abuses in Bahrain, should Sunday's Grand Prix be stopped, should

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Britain take a tougher line. We will hear from the Bahraini

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Good evenings, every Government goes through the mid-term blues, a

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few years in, unpopular decisions taken, and if they get it right, a

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cople of more years, and then the wisdom is revealed and they are re-

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elected. Sometimes it goes from bad to worse, in the view of David

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Miliband it is going that way, he called it an "omnishambles",

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something that owes itself to television comedy. The answer

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Allegra Stratton will be finding out, the answer contains some very

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strong language. This was in this building that

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David Cameron invited people to join the Government of Britain.

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is an invitation to the whole of Britain, we will give you the power,

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be your own boss, sack your own MP. Nearly two years into power, the

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prospect of people faking him up on that invite, if it was -- taking

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him up on that invite, if it was ever credible, now looks a little

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less. One of the things I take around with me today is the

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Conservative manifesto, which indicates what they are delivering

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and how much was in the manifesto. That is a notebook? It is the

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manifesto from 2010. Conservative chairman's humour

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reflects the mood inside Downing Street and the difficulties of

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making coalition work. Conservative Party have some very

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clear principles, the majority of the agreement, the coalition

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agreement, and what we are delivering in Government, is part

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of those principles, but then there are other principles, Lib Dem

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principles, which do butt up against that. And yes, out of that

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sometimes comes an incoherence. What is worrying for the Government

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is the shifting sands of public opinion, those people who the

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Tories they could once ask to join the Government, are settling. In

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the first time in the history of a poll from YouGov, and any polling

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kl 2007, Labour is ahead on points. For people inside Number Ten, life

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is tense. That's great, that's fucking great,

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that is another fucking thing right there, not only do you have a bent

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fucking husband, and a daughter who gets taken to school in a sedan

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chair, you are also fucking mental. You are a fucking omnishambles, you

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are like that coffee finance, from bean to cup, you fuck up. So there

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you have it, the word "omnishambles" first used in its

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full glory. Since that programme, politicians of all stripes have

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used it to describe things going their way as they might not like.

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This week it was used by the leader of the opposition, David Miliband,

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in the House of Commons. -- Ed Miliband. We are all pleased to

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hear the Prime Minister's view, four weeks on from the budget, even

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people from Downing Street, are calling it an omnishambles budget.

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This week the events didn't let up, the dance with Abu Qatada might

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once have been containable, but ministers fear the sight of Qatada

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released could be a vivid image of impotence.

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Coming in a week where attempts were suggested to change the

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European Court of Human Rights, and rejected, it is thought that could

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be lethal. Keneth Clarke gave a presentation on the reforms he was

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going to get to the European Court, which, in the eye of some cabinet

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ministers, tying their hands in the Abu Qatada case. Keneth Clarke said

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the reforms were not going to be as radical as the Tories said they

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would get. To the surprise of some, it was he had case secretary,

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Michael Gove who said that was not -- Education Secretary, Michael

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Gove who said that was not good enough, and Iain Duncan Smith and

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others thumped support in this matter for the education secretary.

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It was party night on Wednesday, a Cameroon leaving do, for the man

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who dreamt up The Big Idea society, Steve Hilton has temporarily left

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the Government, many think he has left a hole, even his enemies. His

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departure marks the end of the first part of the coalition

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Government, now there is a phase where everything has to be agreed,

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with fraught negotiations. With no second programme of Government on

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the horizon, the Government has created a vacuum. Looking to find

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mid-term blues for the 1997 Government is pretty useless, they

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basically govern in benign times. Looking at the 1979 Government is

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more interesting, they only get their poll lead back in the time of

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the Falklands War. Some of Cameron's allies point to this

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period suggesting the best is yet to come. Things may be bumpy, David

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Cameron's aides admit, ruefully, but soon the Prime Minister will

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point out few people are argue beg their core policy, definite

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reduction, and that, they think, is the key to the 20 15 election.

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Today backbenchers are newly upset about money going from the UK to

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the IMF. Few are sure whether they are dealing with mid-term blues, or

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a longer term darker Hugh. My guest suggests that the Government is

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fundamentally on track, and many of the problems are stirred up by the

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website, Conservative Home, and calling it narrow faction. The

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website's editor is with us. Do you accept that omni shambles is real,

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and many problems are down to a basic lack of confidence?

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really, I think the reporting of this crisis, called, has been

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hysterical. It is very interesting, if you analyse where the criticisms

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are coming from. It is not being created by the opposition, it is

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coming from the Conservative Party right, and within that, it is from

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a very small number of very deliberately offensive voices, that

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are attacking the Prime Minister personally, and accusing Cameron of

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some kind of betrayal. Did you mean him? What I argued in my piece in

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the Telegraph, was that Conservative Home gave a lot of

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credibility to this proposition. I think the half-a-dozen or so voices

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on the Tory right really, they don't represent the mainstream

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Conservative view, but they are given weight by Conservative Home,

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which presents itself as the voice of the mainstream Conservative

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Party, but is actually, under Tim Montgomerie, a brilliant man,

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actually, really influential, but he actual low is a small right-wing

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faction. Tim? I think we are returning the compliments here, I

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think Peter is a brilliant columnist, but in terms of personal

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attacks, Peter, it wasn't so long ago when you wrote in your

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Telegraph column that until now it was easy to argue that Mr Cameron

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was properly grounded with a decent set of values, but unfortunately it

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is impossible to make that assertion any longer. I have never

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made an take on David Cameron as strong as that. I think the

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Government is facing serious difficulties, I think it is very

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important for a website like our's, I love the Conservative Party, I

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want it to succeed, to voice the concerns, not just of a few people

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in Westminster. What we exist to do, and we have a panel of nine-and-a-

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half Conservative members across the country that we regularly poll.

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I put a lot of time into talking to Conservative MPs and others. There

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is huge concern out there, it is not a crisis, it is fixable, but

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there is a lot of concern. Peter said it is magnified by people like,

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talking about a handful of these voices, serial attenders of think-

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tank breakfasts, spectacular immaturity, waging a campaign

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against Baroness Warsi, and you are stirring it up, it is

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unrepresentative of the Conservative Party? We are far from

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unprep presentive, I spoke to two - - unrepresentative, I spoke to two

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people this week, who said half of the people are worried about

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problems in David Cameron's leadership, and some are as worried

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as in the John Major years. You mentioned the polls, UKIP taking

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chunks out of the right flank. I think it is sortable, I think the

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Government is doing many good things. It would be wrong to be

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complacent at this time. Isn't it refreshing to hear some of

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this, instead of the discipline of the Conservative Party falling in

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line, it is a party that seems to be confident enough to have a row

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with itself? I think there is a lot in that, I think that it is one of

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the reasons why Labour, new Labour, couldn't produce something which

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Tim has done. Because they were so on message that it wouldn't produce

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the eclectic voices. You joint by he represents a meaningful strand

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do you? If you lock at my readers, broadly Conservative, they are

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people who read the newspapers over breakfast, they get on the commuter

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train. They are civic-minded people. Lord Oakeshott, the great

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Conservative fill loss fear of the last century, saying Conservatism

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is about enjoyment, civic engagment and living life to the full. My

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criticism of Tim is I think his website is very representative of a

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small, very small group of very keen political obsessives. For them,

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every political development which Allegra Stratton's brilliant

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comment earlier portrayed, is a matter of intense importance. Now,

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for the average Telegrapher, who is the mainstream Conservative voter,

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he's thinking about his job, his family, the opera he's going to,

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where he will spend the evening. There is a small group of

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hysterical young men, very few women, who get terribly obsessed by

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the latest political. Let me hear from the his kal young --

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hysterical young man's leader? column written tomorrow by Peter

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saying the wheels fell off the car ran have a of the coalition this

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week. I'm not -- caravan of the coalition this week. I'm not sure

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who is the most heir ter kal. Only -- hysterical. Only 10-15% of cuts

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necessary have so far been made, we need a coalition focused on

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economic competitiveness, and then we can sort these problems out.

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There is one other difference between you two, you would Mike

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David Cameron to be more ideolgical, and you -- would like David Cameron

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to be more ideolgical, and you would like him to appeal more to

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everyone. If you go back to the Labour Party in the 1980s, there

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was the Campaign Group, they were very dogmatic, they were aridly

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doctrineated, and Neil Kinnock had this wonderful phrase, I remember

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in the mid-1980s, when he said politics is too important to mess

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around with people's lives. I think this very, in a way, a politically

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obsessive approach. Not good enough on this line. David Cameron is some

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kind of right-wing story, who is as pure as the driven snow. Can I come

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back on this. Let him come in on that? What we need to do as part of

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the Conservative Party is walk and chew gum at the same time, it is

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perfectly OK to be euro-sceptic, tough approach to immigration and

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crime, the things that perhaps Peter would characterise as right-

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wing, on the website we have also advanced much more involvement of

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northern candidates in the party, when there was room for tax cuts

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they should be focused on the low paid. We have taken something that

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Peter criticised, we have been critical of the hyperactivity of

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the coalition, unsettling the National Health Service, it is the

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wrong time to reform the National Health Service. I think a blue

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collar Conservatism, not a right- wing Conservatism, is the future of

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the party, I think Peter was a little bit unfair about how he

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characterised our position. Let's bring in Zoe Williams, do you think

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Labour is missing a trick in not having a Labour Home? I have a lot

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of sympathy with both of your positions, with the proviso that I

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think you are all wrong! Neither can summon the quintessential Tory,

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all you are doing is summon the Tory you want to summon. Neither of

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you say you can speak for Conservatism, I wouldn't say. Now,

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there is, you were talking about building a narrative, and how that

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is telling a story, I agree with that, there is a fictionalisation,

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when you build a narrative, there is also, it abides by a narrative

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verity, there is a purpose to attacking the party, there is a

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purpose to Conservative Home, it is a corrective to a party that's in

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power. There would be no purpose to it for Labour. He used the word

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"magnifies" the problem, that could be detable stablising it?

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destablising it? The power in the press was suppressing it. Now, that

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is no longer the case because of the internet, you can't put the

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genie back in the box and say the press can suppress division, if the

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press suppresses them, somebody like a website will air them. You

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can't say this is hysterical young men who is briefing the young men.

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Lord Ashley is oneing the show. -- Lord Ashcroft is running the

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show. He supports the website generously, but he doesn't

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interfere. You can't say on the one hand it is hysterical young men,

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and then on the other say it is the old men locked out in the cold.

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You made a reference to the health bill, you seem to think it was a

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serious misjudgment for Conservative Home to attack it?

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is very effective in attack on the health bill, it was the timing

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which was so strange. It was pretty well on the third reading stage.

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And suddenly, Conservative Home had a fit of nerves or a fit of

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hysteria, perhaps, and demanded it should be dropped. It was

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catastrophic if it was dropped stage. There was three cabinet

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ministers on that. It was a good story. It was sourced in three

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cabinet ministers. Let me get to this, the idea has got about that

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Conservative Hope, particularly among BBC pro-- Conservative Home,

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particularly among BBC producers, and that sort of person, that

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Conservative Home represents the mainstream of the Conservative

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Party. It represents a very, very, and I was just wanting, just to

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produce a corrective, so that we understand that Conservative Home,

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for all its merits, very, very interesting analysis and so forth,

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represents a small group of quite intelligent, and completely

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obsessed right-wingers. To be fair, I mean there is a point

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here, you can't on the one hand say that Cameron isn't demonstrating

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leadership, and he's being a front man and a sales person, and on the

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other hand amplify the divisions in his party, it does weaken him, and

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this stuff is self-fulfiling, if you attack the guy for being weak,

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he will become weaker. The trouble with the idea of

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keeping politics out of sport, is sport is so important to so many

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people around the world, it can provide a platform for disconand

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protest. The Bahrain Grand Prix has been scheduled for Sunday, and

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there have been renewed calls for it to be called off. The glamour,

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the speed, the daredevilry of Formula One, brought to a country,

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seething with anger. On the track, tyres span today.

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Off it t they went up in smoke. Last year's Bahrain Grand Prix was

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cancelled, after the kingdom's police battled pro-democracy

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protestors at the start of the Arab Spring. Today, the Crown Prince,

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owner of the rights to the events, insisted this year's would go ahead

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on Sunday. Cancelling the race empowers extremists. For those of

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us trying to navigate a way out of this political problem, having the

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race allows us to build bridges across communities, get people

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working together. It allows us to celebrate our nation. Bahrain's

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western-orientated rulers are highly image conscious, the Grand

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Prix was intended to show a country returning to normal, ironically, it

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has ended up reminding the world about the unrest. Today, tens of

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thousands blocked a major highway, to demand that the race be stopped.

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This sport, especially Formula One, is the ruling elite sport, it is

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the Crown Prince's sport, it is the son of the king's sport. You know

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you are in a country that does not have institutions, does not have

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systems. The ruling family are everywhere, they are the rulers,

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the economy, the politics, everything. What was our demand, is

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for Formula One not to help the ruling elite to come out of

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isolation. They have committed a lot of crimes and they should be

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politically punished for those crimes. They should not be helped.

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Now Formula One is coming, it is not a good message for the people

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in Bahrain, or the people who lost their loved ones. According to

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Amnesty International, there have been at least 60 protest-related

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deaths, since the uprising began in February last year. At least five

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people have died from torture in cuss towedy. At least 500 civilians

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have been convicted in military courts.

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Now, 11 members of the security forces are known to be facing

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charges for human rights violations. But as far as is known, none of

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them hold senior positions. Theless, the appointment of an

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Independent Commission of Inquiry, which reported last November,

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proves, the authorities say, that they want reform. If we hold

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internal investigations with external investigators, and we say

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that we are not perfect, then I hardly think we are trying to gloss

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over real issues that exist in our country. And Bernie Ecclestone,

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Prince of Formula One, thinks there is no problem with freedom of

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expression in Bahrain. I don't want to be rude at all, but I think

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sometimes it is a little bit silly putting the race on, it has given

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the protesters an incredible platform to talk tou. They say they

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talk about democracy, which is freedom of speech, they say, they

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have had all the freedom in the world to talk to you guys.

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In the impoverished villages outside Bahrain's capital, the

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country's largely Shia Muslim population, resentful of the elite

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says freedom is a long way off. Amnesty International say they the

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ruling powers haven't committed themselves to human rights. Bahrain

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is not Syria, and there is a process of reform under way, and

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that Government backs and wants to promote the reform. Behind that

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aspiration, is there a desire to maintain good relations with a

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stragically placed king, in which the United States and UK have had

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strong military links. Half a million of UK licenses were revoked

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last February when the uprising began for equipment that could be

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used against protestors, since then a further �1.5 million have been

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licensed, including items that can be used in dealing with civilian

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unrest. Such as body armour, weapons sights, small arms

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ammunition, rifles and silencers. The Commander-in-Chief of the

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Bahraini army recently told a local newspaper that Britain had been one

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of several countries trying to put pressure on Bahrain by curbing arms

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sales. But he said he personally phoned a senior person in the

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British army and threatened to cancel military co-operation in

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Bahrain, unless the curb on arms exports was lifted. According to

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him, he boasted the policy had been changed within a month. I don't

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know if the time frame is right, but it seems that pressure had some

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impact. The British Government would deny any such pressure, as

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for the authorities, they have been firm in dispersing protests, this

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man was hit in the face with a teargas cannister. Any activists

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detained in the last three or four days, to clear the way for Formula

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One, many of those activists were tortured, some were kids. Now only

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I have just come from the house of somebody, 14 years old boy, who has

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bleeding in the brain, because of the torture he had by the security

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institution, and he's in a critical condition.

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Opposition leaders say they won't try to stop the race, but

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demonstrations will continue. Not surprising, perhaps, then, that

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there is increasing nervousness on the part of some teams and sponsors.

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Earlier I spoke to representative for Bahrain's information affairs

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authority, and the son of -- the son of a jailed dissident. Bahraini

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forces have killed 60 people, and tortured five to death in the last

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year, why should you be allowed to stage the Grand Prix? I take issue

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with the figure of 60, the independent report listed 35, five

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were members of the security forces. Amnesty International's report says

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otherwise, we won't quibble about the figures, you have killed a

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number of protestors and tortured five to death, why should the world

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let you pretend everything is normal in Bahrain? The Government

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abhors torture of any kind, it stands against human rights

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violations, that is why it has commissioned the Independent

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Commission of Inquiry, which made its findings very public in a

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public ceremony. It was accepted by His Majesty the king, it is

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available on-line in Arabic and English, many say it is damaging

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for the Government. The Government has acknowledged its mistakes and

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taken responsibility for the wrongs and has been fast in implementing

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measures and the report's recommendations. You are not a

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normal country, you use shotguns against protestor, political

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opposition is banned? No, actually, the largest opposition party, just

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resigned 18 seats in parliament. It had 17 seats in the last

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parliamentary session. I mean, one must not forget that we are a new

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transitioning democracy. Our parliament is on its third session.

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You say you are in transition, should we wait until the transition

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is more peaceful before allowing the Formula One Grand Prix to give

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you this great political boost? have made great leaps over the past

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ten years. We have had the national charter, the bicameral parliament,

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and constitutional reforms are coming as a result of the dialogue

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in June, that have gone through the lower house. Have they made great

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leaps? Let me just mention that the Bahraini regime has not killed only

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65, they killed more than 80, and they arrested doctors and nurses

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and they destroyed more than 35 mosques, and Bahrain is now under

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occupation since 17th of March 2011, and they are still oxfied. At the

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moment now...He Made the point that they have admit add lot of mistakes,

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and allowed to open themselves up to scrutiny. This Grand Prix will

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turn the spotlight on the issues you are talking about? At this time

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more than 20 villages by the police forces. Right now, you mean? Right

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now, at the moment. I mean every day they attack their people. I

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want to mention as well, that teargas made in the UK, and I want

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to mention that, I mean, unfortunately, the UK Government

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supports Bahrain by ...Making teargas and other things. Let me

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put that now, the attacks on villages are still going on, they

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are going on now, he says? Again, I mean there were a few allegations

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there on the past comments that I don't necessarily agree with and

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believe to be true. Such as Bahrain being under occupation or invasion.

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Now the right approach -- the right to protest is guaranteed to the

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citizens, this right has been exercise, non-stop, since the

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events of last year. But you are shooting them? Come on, that is

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really unfair to say. We have had very large protests, you know, some

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numbing in the tens of thousands, gathering every week without

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disruption, or without interference by the police. There is a line

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between peaceful protest and legitimate expression of opinion,

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and violent assaults against policemen. The point is, you want

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the overthrow of the Bahrain Government? Is it wrong for people

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to demand to elect their Government. It is wrong to attack and shoot

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police officers? No, we didn't attack anybody. We don't have any

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arms. Since 14th of February, we have moved peacefully, as the BBC

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will say, and CNN, and amnesty international mentioned that the

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protestors were peacefully moving, and the Government, as Bassiouni

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said in his report, they tortured the youths in prison, and they

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killed them. Would you accept that the Formula One, grand pro-, which

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you want cancelled? Yes. Wouldn't you accept it has done the world of

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good for the opposition, because everybody is looking at Bahrain

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because it is going on, it is a good thing? Everybody knows what

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happened in Bahrain, that is why they should stop, what the police

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force is doing, they attack every village. Are you saying that is not

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true, that while the Formula One preparations are going on, your

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forces are not attacking any villages? Won coming to protest, it

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is important to say that -- when coming to protest, it is important

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to saying, there are protests happening before Formula One, and

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will continue during. I have to say that many people, especially in the

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opposition, have expressed strong support for the Formula One, they

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have acknowledged its use to the economy and will not act as a

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weapon against it. Only a small minority offer a risk. Kirsty is

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