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Tonight a strike by border guards on the eve of the Olympics. It | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
threatens chaos at Heathrow on what's expected to be the airport's | :00:11. | :00:16. | |
busiest day ever with more than a 100,000 people arriving. The Home | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
Secretary says it's "shameful." The union says it's a "last resort." | :00:20. | :00:22. | |
We'll debate the rights and wrongs in yet another operational setback | :00:22. | :00:27. | |
for the Government. The millions of malnourished children in an | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
epidemic of hunger in Yemen. It's an Arab Spring country gone | :00:31. | :00:37. | |
unnoticed and now starving. Little Abdullah here is typical of so many | :00:37. | :00:41. | |
of the kids we've been seeing - if you look at his arms there is no | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
body fat on him at all. Who will be the new Sheriff of Nottingham and | :00:46. | :00:49. | |
towns and cities across England and Wales? Police Commissioners will be | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
elected in November - but will anyone turn out to vote? What | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
difference will they make? And should they be politicians like | :00:56. | :00:59. | |
John Prescott or perhaps former police officers - we'll ask two | :00:59. | :01:04. | |
candidates for the posts plus the current head of ACPO. Don't do this | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
at home - the BBC's paid a lot to play with these Olympic rings - but | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
there are some things even we can't say. During the summer bleep, being | :01:18. | :01:28. | |
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that according to a law, the... Had imposed upon them. Good evening, | :01:30. | :01:34. | |
for years, campaigners of various sorts tried to use the Olympics to | :01:34. | :01:42. | |
make a political point. Next week on the eve. The Games, PCS the | :01:42. | :01:49. | |
union representing border officers, and representative staff are in a | :01:49. | :01:55. | |
long standing strike about rows. Thousands of travellers expected | :01:55. | :01:58. | |
that day, there's potential of chaos at the start of what should | :01:58. | :02:03. | |
be one of the greatest sporting events everyone witnessed. But is | :02:03. | :02:07. | |
the union following others in senting a good day to make a point | :02:07. | :02:16. | |
or as the union suggests is will no attempt to disrupt the Games. | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
up Sod's Law in the dictionary and it says if someone can go wrong and | :02:20. | :02:26. | |
turn out inappropriately it will. Just ask this Government t could | :02:26. | :02:28. | |
stand for Serwotka's Olympic Disaster Scheme scheme, striking | :02:29. | :02:33. | |
border guards on potentially the busiest day in Heathrow, could | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
leave the coalition more red-faced on the biggest stage of them all. | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
First it was the weather, torrential rain so unseasonal it | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
threatened to extinguish the Olympics flame. Then athletes on | :02:47. | :02:54. | |
four hours of bus journeys using games less. And G4, lots of staff | :02:54. | :02:59. | |
haven't turned up to work, leaving it to the army and police which | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
haven't yet been outsourced. But G4 is over a crate of champagne, to | :03:05. | :03:10. | |
deflecting the public's wrath on them on to border staff. I hope the | :03:10. | :03:14. | |
people understand the issues, because I hope they struggle to | :03:14. | :03:17. | |
understand why for 18 months the Government refused to ingauge on | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
any of the issues. I hope they'd understand one day of disruption is | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
regrettable but better than having 365 days a year, where people are | :03:27. | :03:31. | |
comeing to this country and queuing for three or four years, where they | :03:31. | :03:34. | |
can't get a passport or proper service. The backlash has been | :03:34. | :03:38. | |
swift and angry. Well I think that is shameful, frankly, they are | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
holding a strike on what is the key days for people coming into this | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
country, for the Olympic Games. think the immigration officers are | :03:49. | :03:55. | |
deeply patriotic but to threaten us is totally inappropriate. The mayor | :03:55. | :04:02. | |
was adopting a comecal alley stance. I don't think they'll succeed in | :04:02. | :04:07. | |
disrupting the Olympics. Ironically it was Boris Johnson who agreed to | :04:07. | :04:11. | |
massive payoffs to avoid strikes in the Olympics. Tube drivers are | :04:11. | :04:16. | |
getting �750 on top of the usual overtime payments and robust | :04:16. | :04:23. | |
salaries. London bus drivers secured an extra �577 for their | :04:24. | :04:28. | |
workload, while Heathrow Express drivers negotiateed �700. The | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
Docklands light rail stach will be getting �900 even though they don't | :04:33. | :04:38. | |
have any drivers. 450 ASLEF workers will still be going out on strike | :04:38. | :04:46. | |
between August 67th and 8th in a disput over pension contributions. | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
On an ordinary summer's day, Heathrow can process up to 100,000 | :04:49. | :04:54. | |
passports. But July, 6th is no ordinary day. It is potentially the | :04:54. | :04:58. | |
airport's busiest ever, as thousands of extra athletes, | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
dignitaries and ordinary passengers, arrive ahead of the Olympics | :05:02. | :05:05. | |
Opening Ceremony. The US Border Agency say they've trained up 500 | :05:05. | :05:09. | |
staff to help out and that things went smoothly, the last time there | :05:09. | :05:15. | |
was a strike, two months ago. Then there's the issue of strike | :05:15. | :05:23. | |
ballots, 20% border staff took part in a bat lot, meaning 11% voted for | :05:23. | :05:30. | |
the walkout. With issues like this, may force the balloting laws back | :05:30. | :05:35. | |
in the agenda. We're joined by Liverpool, by Paul O'Connor, Mr | :05:35. | :05:40. | |
O'Connor why is your union trying to disrupt the Olympics? We're not | :05:40. | :05:45. | |
trying to disrupt the Olympics. These are issues live for a long | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
time. Sorry, excuse me, they have been for a long time, so you could | :05:48. | :05:56. | |
have picked any day, any of the 365 days to have this action, you know | :05:56. | :06:01. | |
it will cause maximum disruption? We table the demands to the | :06:01. | :06:05. | |
Government and employer 18 months ago, since that date, they've done | :06:05. | :06:11. | |
nothing, they've been intransigent in the extreme. What they've been | :06:11. | :06:17. | |
engaged is a further staff... are going to disrupt. Chaos at the | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
borders and passport officers, this is the shambles the Government is | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
presiding over. You are prepared to disrupt the Olympics for 18 months | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
they haven't talked to you, that's why? This isn't about the Olympics | :06:28. | :06:33. | |
for us. It is for all the people arriving. This is a disrut going on | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
for 18 months, our members are clear this is a plan, that could go | :06:36. | :06:40. | |
on, until the Autumn, there could be action. You could have action | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
then. So you don't need action next week. The problem is the Government | :06:45. | :06:49. | |
is whipping up hysteria around the Olympics. It seemed to have woken | :06:49. | :06:53. | |
up to the fact the issues are on the table. Jobs are going, chaos at | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
the borders and it needs sorting out. Which I'm ready to negotiate a | :06:57. | :07:03. | |
settlement with them, all they need to do is come to the table rather | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
engaging in this damaging talk. don't think in any way it damages | :07:07. | :07:11. | |
your case, serious case about jobs and conditions, that on the biggest | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
sporting event most of us have ever witnessed, when people are coming | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
to this country and we want to put on a good show, one in ten members | :07:19. | :07:23. | |
voted in favour of this, and you think you have a man date to | :07:23. | :07:28. | |
disrupt the Olympics? We have been making our case for 18 months, it | :07:28. | :07:30. | |
is the Government that is intransigent in the negotiations. | :07:30. | :07:34. | |
They need to come to the table with us, over the next week. We don't | :07:34. | :07:38. | |
want to see a strike go ahead there. Is time to avoid that. But the | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
Government needs to negotiate, seriously on the issues that matter. | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
Which is public service delivery, that the people of this country | :07:45. | :07:49. | |
deserve, 365 days a year. So it is blackmail really? It is not | :07:49. | :07:54. | |
blackmail at all. Our members care very, very profoundly about the | :07:54. | :07:58. | |
public services, they deliver, they want safe and secure borders. They | :07:58. | :08:03. | |
want people to be able to go in a passport office and not be told in | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
London they need a appointment in Belfast. It is in the Government's | :08:06. | :08:10. | |
best interests to man and staff those public services, properly, | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
and they need to come to the table and negotiate with us. Thank you | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
very much. Damian Green, why have you been caught up with this | :08:17. | :08:20. | |
hysteria, when Boris Johnson is saying it won't disrupt the | :08:21. | :08:27. | |
Olympics at all? I'm not caught up with hysteria at all. I had a | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
meeting with Paul two weeks ago, he sat opposite across my table, | :08:32. | :08:37. | |
talking to me. But he didn't get anywhere? Our officials at the hofs | :08:37. | :08:41. | |
is negotiating all the time. That line is wrong. The most important | :08:41. | :08:46. | |
thing is PCS members don't want the strike to happen. Some do, the | :08:46. | :08:50. | |
majority who voted. Seven out of eight didn't vote for a strike, | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
they don't want to go on strike, as Jeremy Hunt said they're patriotic | :08:55. | :09:00. | |
and care about the reputation of the country, it is a small group in | :09:00. | :09:03. | |
the leadership, that is behaving disgracefully, trying to make | :09:03. | :09:07. | |
capital out of the Olympics, when it should be a great celebration. | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
Will it result in a mess? It need not to, we called two strikes in | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
the past year, which haven't caused too much disruption to Heathrow. | :09:18. | :09:27. | |
And, as, the report said, we have got continge Genesis in place. | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
is the contingency Olympics. You have the volunteers and army. It is | :09:31. | :09:36. | |
not the professionals. We trained people for months, we've got 500 of | :09:36. | :09:40. | |
them extra working at the borders,00 at Heathrow. And anyone | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
who is travelling through Heathrow knows, it is working extremely | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
smoothly, it is a huge success the operation at Heathrow. The big | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
bulge of people arriving hasn't happened and it will happen that | :09:53. | :09:57. | |
day. You can't guarantee next Thursday will be a big problem? | :09:57. | :10:02. | |
don't know, what level, first of all of people from the PCS will go | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
on strike, I hope they don't. They're not enthusiastic for this | :10:06. | :10:11. | |
strike. Members of other unions won't be striking and we do have a | :10:11. | :10:14. | |
large number of civil servants from other parts of Whitehall already | :10:14. | :10:19. | |
trained and working there. Why did the Home Secretary tell us that she | :10:20. | :10:28. | |
first became aware the G4 fiasco on July 211th and she knew two weeks | :10:28. | :10:33. | |
earlier? What happened on 27th of June, G4 said they were behind and | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
confident they would, have the numbers they promotioned, it was | :10:37. | :10:44. | |
only on July 11th that G4 said we're not going to get the numbers | :10:44. | :10:48. | |
we wanted, which plans that had been put in place in advance were | :10:48. | :10:52. | |
put into action. The chairman of the Home Affairs Select Committee | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
isn't taking that view, and says there must be concerns, because 75 | :11:00. | :11:05. | |
personnel were deployed. G4 came to the Government and said we might | :11:05. | :11:09. | |
not make our numbers. The Government sensibly said, OK, fine, | :11:09. | :11:14. | |
let's make sure we've got military Pec knell in reserve. It wasn't the | :11:14. | :11:22. | |
first you knew about it, the 11th of July. It crystalised on July 119. | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
What they were saying up to then, is they were going to make their | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
numbers, they will make it up, what happened on July 11, is G4 said | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
they're not going to make their numbers. What will make to the | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
amendment fee, what will happen to what they're paid, how much will | :11:40. | :11:45. | |
the taxpayer be paying? That will be sorting out after the Olympics. | :11:45. | :11:52. | |
They have already the 57 million. There will clearly need to be a big | :11:52. | :12:00. | |
investigation into what happened inside G4S. You might want to claw | :12:00. | :12:04. | |
some money back? That will happen after the Olympics. Thank you very | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
much. Now, there's the beginings of a humanitarian catastrophe in one | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
of the countries touched of the Arab Spring. Yemen has been racked | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
by political turmoil. Millions are going hungry and worse. According | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
to the United Nations, nearly half the population, on ten million | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
people have limited or no access to sufficient food and 47% of children | :12:27. | :12:31. | |
under five years old are malnurished. The worse area is in | :12:31. | :12:41. | |
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the west of the country. The face This baby is clinging to | :12:45. | :12:50. | |
consciousness, barely clinging to life. A one-year-old who weighs as | :12:50. | :12:54. | |
much as a newborn baby. You don't need the scales to know | :12:54. | :13:04. | |
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this child needs help, now. Like so many young victims of Yemen's | :13:05. | :13:10. | |
hunger epidemic, his health is failing, he is rushed to the ward. | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
He is struggling to breathe, his body weakened by chronic | :13:16. | :13:25. | |
TRANSLATION: There are a lot of cases, a lot of cases. Yes they | :13:25. | :13:34. | |
really are in danger of dying. the next bed, Marem another of the | :13:34. | :13:42. | |
250 million children who are so malnurished, they could die. So we | :13:42. | :13:48. | |
head out into a country which has a long history of poverty and | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
hardship. What's happening today away from the eyes of the outside | :13:51. | :14:01. | |
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world, is something different. In the remote village, the evidence is | :14:01. | :14:11. | |
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And as always, it is the very youngest in this tiny community who | :14:13. | :14:23. | |
are the most vulnerable. The most at risk. For this woman, watching | :14:23. | :14:27. | |
her eighth month old suffer is agony. | :14:27. | :14:32. | |
TRANSLATION: I'm really scared. I would die if it he dies. | :14:32. | :14:40. | |
I'm sick with worry, it makes me so sad to see my son in pain. | :14:40. | :14:43. | |
Little Abdullah is typical of so many of the kids we've been seeing. | :14:43. | :14:48. | |
His arms there's no body fat on him at all. And the reason is | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
absolutely a simple one, the mums are telling us, they just don't | :14:52. | :14:57. | |
have enough food in their homes to keep their children healthy. And in | :14:57. | :15:06. | |
some cases to keep kids like Abdullah, alive. I go to visit | :15:06. | :15:14. | |
Abdullah's family, it is clear they're dirt poor. Is it OK to come | :15:14. | :15:24. | |
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This cramped place is where six people live and two children have | :15:28. | :15:33. | |
died of malnutrition. Across generations hunger is part of what | :15:33. | :15:38. | |
passes for daily life. If tonight they look and there's no food, what | :15:38. | :15:44. | |
can they do?. TRANSLATION: We sleep and we pray. | :15:44. | :15:54. | |
What else can we do? Force God to feed us, so we sleep. On the edge | :15:54. | :16:00. | |
of the village the graves of Abdullah a's brother and sister, | :16:00. | :16:04. | |
just a few rocks and soon it will be hard to tell there's anything | :16:04. | :16:11. | |
here at all. But there will be more graves in villages across Yemen. | :16:11. | :16:16. | |
That's what these mothers are desperate to prevent. They crowd | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
into the sweltering district hospital looking for food, looking | :16:20. | :16:27. | |
for medicine. In a country, where poverty is regarded as shameful, | :16:27. | :16:32. | |
where women are veiled and withdrawn, the mothers here surgeon | :16:32. | :16:39. | |
forward holding up their emaciated babies. This may not look like the | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
classic images we see from trick Africa but what better illustration | :16:42. | :16:48. | |
there is hunger here and now in this country. There is some help | :16:48. | :16:53. | |
here, but not enough. Last week, supplies of specialist baby food | :16:53. | :16:58. | |
ran out. There was no money for fuel to pick up more. The aid | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
operation, such as it is, is running on empty. You're a doctor, | :17:04. | :17:10. | |
it is your job to look after children, does this make you sad | :17:10. | :17:14. | |
and angry? TRANSLATION: Very sad and very | :17:14. | :17:18. | |
angry. TRANSLATION: I never imagine we | :17:18. | :17:23. | |
would face a crisis like this, and it is only getting worse. Why does | :17:23. | :17:28. | |
it make you angry? TRANSLATION: Because we can't help | :17:28. | :17:33. | |
all of them. What we can do is really limited. We can't reach all | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
the poor people. We don't have the support, it makes us sad and | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
ashamed. What's hard to deal with here, is that just down the road | :17:46. | :17:49. | |
from the hospital there is food. But prices have gone through the | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
roof and still rising. The poor, simply can't afford it. Imagine, | :17:54. | :18:00. | |
having to walk past all of this, while your child is at home, | :18:00. | :18:08. | |
desperately hungry. Ask anyone here, old or young, what's driving the | :18:08. | :18:18. | |
hung hunger, and they'll hell you it is poverty. For some this is a | :18:18. | :18:24. | |
solution of sorts. Oxfam has a programme of cash | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
handouts. The heat may be off the scale, you may have to wait in line | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
for hours, but really, there's not much else to do for farm workers | :18:32. | :18:36. | |
when crops have failed. If you don't get this money, is there any | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
other way of getting income, have you any other way of getting money? | :18:41. | :18:45. | |
TRANSLATION: No. If there's rain we can work, otherwise, there's no | :18:45. | :18:54. | |
work. For so many, this is the last, the only option. And the rains | :18:54. | :18:58. | |
haven't come. April's harvest was a disaster, and | :18:58. | :19:03. | |
that was a severe limit on Yemen's capacity for self-help. It is true, | :19:03. | :19:08. | |
that not all of the productive land in this impoverished country is | :19:08. | :19:18. | |
used to produce food. Instead, they choose to grow this stuff, Kat, a | :19:18. | :19:28. | |
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narcotic leaf that is chewed daily by every adult in Yemen. Is it good, | :19:28. | :19:38. | |
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do you chew it? The whole thing. It is an acquireed taste. Along | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
with Islam, it is at the centre of the culture, millions of bags of it | :19:55. | :20:01. | |
are solid every day Akmed is a huge Khat fan, and says he spends more | :20:01. | :20:09. | |
money on it than food. What does your wife says? She chews too, he | :20:09. | :20:14. | |
tells me. They say it is a way of life, would be an understatement. | :20:14. | :20:21. | |
Amid the hunger and desperation, everyone here is still chewing Some | :20:21. | :20:26. | |
things here then, remain constant. But these are also times of | :20:26. | :20:32. | |
upheaval, turmoil and change. The Yemeni Arab Spring shifted the | :20:33. | :20:35. | |
political landscape and delivered the first new President in more | :20:35. | :20:40. | |
than three decades. It was hardly a revolution and hardly a happy | :20:40. | :20:46. | |
ending. Hunger levels have doubleed but the new Government is more | :20:46. | :20:56. | |
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The battle is on. These troops training to take on the Islamist | :21:01. | :21:07. | |
mill tapts, many who are foreign fighters, arriving in Yemen, after | :21:07. | :21:17. | |
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driven out of former strongholds. The new recruits are part of the | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
military bolstered by American funding and training. | :21:22. | :21:30. | |
But the money spent on this, must surely mean there's less to tackle | :21:30. | :21:33. | |
chronic malnutrition Military commanders, insist, there's no | :21:33. | :21:39. | |
choice. TRANSLATION: We have to focus all | :21:39. | :21:42. | |
our efficiencies on safety and security in Yemen, because that | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
will solve the economic problems. If we don't secure the country, | :21:46. | :21:52. | |
nothing will improve and the suffering and starvation will get | :21:52. | :22:02. | |
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worse. Security first. Which leaves the hungry, still hungry. And with | :22:03. | :22:08. | |
hardly any good news on the horizon. The next harvest is months away, | :22:08. | :22:14. | |
the international aid agencies, struggling to raise funds. And in | :22:14. | :22:21. | |
the middle of it all, this baby, for him help can't arrive soon | :22:21. | :22:26. | |
enough. TRANSLATION: If he lives he lives, | :22:26. | :22:33. | |
if he dies, what can I do, I've tried my best, I've done he was I | :22:33. | :22:39. | |
can for his health. I can't afford to do more, now it is in the hands | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
of the Gods. The Conservative Government unveiled the list of | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
candidates for the new role of police commissioners. Labour | :22:48. | :22:53. | |
candidates have been put into the same jobs. All of England and Wales | :22:53. | :23:01. | |
will get the chance to vote are to The Commissioner, some critics fear | :23:01. | :23:06. | |
politiciseed figures, whose arrival won't do any to help crime. First | :23:06. | :23:16. | |
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our political editor reports from The blue line is struggling not to | :23:18. | :23:22. | |
get thinner, squeezed by budget cuts and soon to be tuged by a new | :23:22. | :23:26. | |
musclar hand. In the Autumn there will be big election toss a new | :23:26. | :23:31. | |
position - chief puller of the thin blue line. But, sheriffs are not | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
the talk of Nottingham town. There are electionness November, you know | :23:35. | :23:40. | |
about them? Yes. What are they for? I don't know. It doesn't really, it | :23:40. | :23:46. | |
is not really something I think about to be fair. It is for a new | :23:46. | :23:52. | |
police chaefs? I didn't know about that. You not heard of elections in | :23:52. | :23:57. | |
November? Not really. It is not the talk of Nottingham town, and the | :23:57. | :24:01. | |
man currently its most senior police officer knows it. | :24:01. | :24:05. | |
We walked along that street now, do you think Butching into any | :24:05. | :24:11. | |
stranger if they knew about the elections, would they knew? Current | :24:11. | :24:15. | |
awareness of the police and crime police officer process isn't what | :24:15. | :24:18. | |
it might be, that is considered and looked at within Government and | :24:18. | :24:23. | |
decisions how to deal with that. I'm sure they will do so. This man | :24:23. | :24:25. | |
is Chief Constable of Nottinghamshire, he is accountable | :24:25. | :24:29. | |
to the Police Authority but after the election, that accountability | :24:29. | :24:33. | |
becomes to another individual, perhaps with little or no policing | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
experience, but whose diverting manifesto won them election, and so | :24:37. | :24:42. | |
the area of policing budget. For the Chief Constable, a group of | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
bosses has become one. Police and crime commissioners, write the plan, | :24:46. | :24:52. | |
chief constables figure out how to implement it. The people who go for | :24:52. | :24:55. | |
the pail, saying having one individual makes the difference? | :24:55. | :24:59. | |
will see that when it comes in. I understand the argument, I've seen | :24:59. | :25:03. | |
the arguments on both sides, I appreciate the strength of | :25:03. | :25:06. | |
arguments present by all-party, prospectus that comes around it, | :25:06. | :25:10. | |
from my prospective, the debate has stopped, the Government has spoken, | :25:10. | :25:14. | |
we have an election process, my job is make sure it works. Whoever she | :25:14. | :25:23. | |
and he is, I will work with. There is no model to look for, it is the | :25:23. | :25:30. | |
same as and so it will work as well. Today, Theresa May launched the | :25:30. | :25:32. | |
Conservatives' candidates. Police authorities are invisible to the | :25:32. | :25:38. | |
public. Most people don't even know they exist, let alone who does the | :25:38. | :25:42. | |
job. Instead, police and crime commissioners, will be highly | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
visible, chosen directly by the people, and accountable to the | :25:46. | :25:50. | |
people The success of the people elected police and crime | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
commissioners will also reflect on the Prime Minister. Was he able to | :25:53. | :25:57. | |
attract the calibre of person to a role that is close to his heart? | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
Many of the ideas championed within Government, don't think right now, | :26:00. | :26:05. | |
the Prime Minister, has put his full heft behind it. So, in | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
November, and close to bomb fire night, what is supposed to be a Big | :26:09. | :26:13. | |
Bang of accountability, might end up being like a firework left out | :26:13. | :26:19. | |
in the summer downpours. Which is why the premium is on | :26:19. | :26:23. | |
quality, and funds are asked for to raise the profile. They have until | :26:23. | :26:27. | |
October to up the quality, so people, think the turnout. We'll | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
see a variety of policing varieties, set up and down the country, by | :26:32. | :26:35. | |
locally elected police and crime commissioners. In one part of the | :26:35. | :26:40. | |
country, gang crime may be the main problem. Elsewhere, it may be | :26:40. | :26:45. | |
burglary, or antisocial behaviour or rural crime or street robberies | :26:45. | :26:52. | |
or drug related crime or drink related crime. Police and crime | :26:52. | :26:56. | |
commissioners, we can have the full set. A few years ago, in this area | :26:56. | :27:01. | |
here, there was a drive-by shooting, and there was a murder. And that is | :27:01. | :27:06. | |
the sort of experience that people over here, have to deal with, quite | :27:06. | :27:10. | |
oven. Don't you think anyone who runs to be a PCC knows they need to | :27:10. | :27:14. | |
deal with murder, why do they need to live with murder on their | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
doorstep to get it? In order to find solutions, one has to get | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
close to the communities, to find out how best they can deal with it. | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
If you're living somewhere in the outer sticks in a rural area, you | :27:25. | :27:30. | |
got no experience of places like inner-city Nottingham, where we | :27:30. | :27:36. | |
have, drugs, gang crime, we have murders, we have gun-related crime. | :27:36. | :27:43. | |
My argument is what have you got, or bringing to the table? | :27:43. | :27:48. | |
police hope they reached the end of the year, still faithful to their | :27:48. | :27:53. | |
founder, Sir Robert's peel, that officers should not panneder to | :27:53. | :27:58. | |
public opinion. Peel had a hand in creating, the officers, are under | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
pressure to make sure crime commissioners are not elected on a | :28:02. | :28:09. | |
low turnout. It hangs by a thin lead. The former Deputy Prime | :28:09. | :28:17. | |
Minister, Lord Prescott is here, and Ian Johnston is standing an an | :28:17. | :28:20. | |
independent, and Sir Hugh Orde is President of the Association of | :28:20. | :28:23. | |
Chief Police Officers. You thought the reforms were a bad idea | :28:23. | :28:28. | |
originally, why are you standing Yes I think they were a bad idea, | :28:28. | :28:31. | |
because I'm afraid police and politics don't mix in my view. | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
However, having said that, the Government of the day, has spoken. | :28:35. | :28:39. | |
We are going to have police and crime commissioners, and | :28:40. | :28:43. | |
independent candidates with the right background, can ensure that | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
politics doesn't, spoil a way we police in this country. Is it more | :28:46. | :28:50. | |
difficult for you, because you don't have party political backing, | :28:50. | :28:54. | |
no apparatus to get on with this? There are two ways of looking at it, | :28:54. | :29:00. | |
in terms of funding and organising it, it is incredibly difficult as | :29:00. | :29:04. | |
an independent. The public have spoken in recent polls, and quite | :29:04. | :29:08. | |
frankly, they've said they're fed up with politicians, 7% think the | :29:08. | :29:14. | |
politicians would make a good police and crime commissioner, 6%:. | :29:14. | :29:18. | |
They shouldn't be disqualified. They're excellent politicians. | :29:18. | :29:21. | |
you Seymour yirt in the argument that politics and police shouldn't | :29:21. | :29:26. | |
mix, it is difficult for good independence, a couple of people. | :29:26. | :29:32. | |
We voted against this, because we sooner kept the police rather the | :29:32. | :29:37. | |
expense of an election, in October, very few people know about it, and | :29:37. | :29:41. | |
very few people will vote. There are to be that vote and we will | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
take part. Whether it is a politician or policeman, in all the | :29:45. | :29:48. | |
candidates in both party, they have a combination, some politicianss | :29:48. | :29:52. | |
some ex-police people, they play that part. But, you know, there are | :29:52. | :29:56. | |
two separate functions here, the Chief Constable's job is to get on | :29:56. | :30:00. | |
with the job and implement the policy. What this policy is saying, | :30:00. | :30:04. | |
the community should decide the priorities of those policies, that | :30:04. | :30:07. | |
means you need a community voice. That's what the commissioners are | :30:07. | :30:13. | |
about, how do you develop that view? Is a politician a good | :30:13. | :30:17. | |
community voice, or better to have somebody who has experience of the | :30:17. | :30:21. | |
police force? And keep the political parties out of it A Chief | :30:21. | :30:25. | |
Constable said to me, we don't like politicians, Robert peel was a | :30:25. | :30:29. | |
politician three times a Prime Minister, so, basically, the | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
politician, we brought in the policy of community policing, it | :30:33. | :30:36. | |
wasn't policing, it wasn't liked by the police, they told us they | :30:36. | :30:42. | |
didn't like it. It is a xinks, policy was policies by discussion, | :30:42. | :30:48. | |
imp theed by the police, you do separate them, let the politicians | :30:48. | :30:52. | |
and people who become commissioners, Voice of the community. Do you | :30:52. | :30:58. | |
think most police officers care one way or the other, presumably you | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
work with civil control you work with, but I'm sure they weren't | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
beating on the door a for the change? It is entirely right and | :31:07. | :31:11. | |
proper, how they're held to account. Service has to have clarity how | :31:11. | :31:17. | |
this will work. These gentlemen have been talking about local | :31:17. | :31:23. | |
policing, chief police officers are responsible for right up to things | :31:23. | :31:28. | |
like Olympics, riots last year, cyber crime, drug dealing, it is | :31:28. | :31:32. | |
better dealt nationallyly by linked with the local service. It is the | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
continueium that is critical. do you worry about, there's a lack | :31:36. | :31:40. | |
of clarity, you're not sure, exactly how it works, you're trying | :31:40. | :31:45. | |
to make it work but not sure? secured a clear, unequivocal | :31:45. | :31:48. | |
agreement, that operationally independent chiefs will deliver the | :31:48. | :31:52. | |
service, held to account by police and crime commissioners. So it is a | :31:52. | :31:57. | |
clear distinction there. But difficulty becomes, stark, when for | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
example we have to mobilise across the country. If every police and | :32:01. | :32:05. | |
crime commissioner, does not sign up to the national agreement is, we | :32:05. | :32:09. | |
have severe difficulty in times of severe crisis. I can imagine | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
somebody in Gwent responding to the local community, saying, actually | :32:13. | :32:16. | |
what we're interested in is burglary or whatever the particular | :32:16. | :32:19. | |
thing is there, and the national priority which is different, no, we | :32:19. | :32:23. | |
need your officers to do something else, there could be an obvious | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
tension there, if you were the face of the police in Gwent? That | :32:27. | :32:31. | |
tension is there, and we've experienced it, in the last week, | :32:31. | :32:37. | |
when we needed more officers, to replace the G4 staff, who decided | :32:37. | :32:43. | |
not to turn up for whatever reason. And Chief Constable said, we | :32:43. | :32:48. | |
recognise the national need as well as the local need. If you were | :32:48. | :32:54. | |
elected you may be responsive to what local people say, in a day | :32:54. | :32:59. | |
wairch way to a Chief Constable? That's why the newly elected, PCCs | :33:00. | :33:05. | |
may need to know what the national call is as well. My fear is, and | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
there's disript to Lord Prescott, there's a danger, for the last two | :33:08. | :33:14. | |
years, for any term of office, some PCCs will be concerned with re- | :33:14. | :33:18. | |
elected instead of getting on with it. That's community. That person | :33:18. | :33:22. | |
on The Commissioner, we didn't agree with the policy, we want to | :33:22. | :33:26. | |
convince the community he's acting in their interest. Let's be hear, | :33:26. | :33:34. | |
the implementation of the policy, whether it is for the Olympics, or | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
the collapsing, G4 is, we're not challenging, that, although we | :33:39. | :33:45. | |
worry the new crime agency, brought in, the abolition of the | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
appropriate coprincipal seems the Government is strengthening its own | :33:48. | :33:50. | |
position and not takeing into account the community so. There | :33:50. | :33:54. | |
will be a bit of tension, bound to be when you have it, but we'll have | :33:55. | :34:00. | |
to see how it works. I believe a good policeman who, could work as | :34:00. | :34:04. | |
commissioner, or policeman, as it may be their responsibility. The | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
two can be distinct. The liebs have to be clear, but let's be clear, it | :34:08. | :34:14. | |
is not too clear in the past, in some things the role of the Chief | :34:14. | :34:20. | |
Constable. Would you like a local face, that is responsible, you | :34:20. | :34:24. | |
could go to for strategic guidance, as you sort out what the | :34:24. | :34:27. | |
operational priorities, and say we need more people or whatever it is, | :34:27. | :34:32. | |
your priorities happen to be? strength of police service is it is | :34:32. | :34:39. | |
rooted in community, and every police officer is signed up to | :34:39. | :34:43. | |
local commuting. They speak to the police authorities and many play | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
add critical role, calming down the communities because they knew them. | :34:47. | :34:51. | |
They will have to build a new relationship with a individual. | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
police officers, he is the power, he has the arrest powers, those who | :34:56. | :34:59. | |
are the community police, were opposed by the police and community, | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
but now work with it, because it is shown, it is improved the | :35:03. | :35:07. | |
relationship between the police and the community. And we're all | :35:07. | :35:15. | |
working that together. That goes back to 1829, established by Robert | :35:15. | :35:22. | |
Peel. The healthy tension will be around how you deploy the shrinking | :35:22. | :35:25. | |
resource we have, that's why we have to collaborate and work | :35:25. | :35:29. | |
closely together and transform policing so we can maintain front | :35:29. | :35:37. | |
line service. Taken over by G4 is. Do you think | :35:37. | :35:40. | |
people, clearly we care about law and order, but do you think people | :35:40. | :35:45. | |
will turn out to vote? It is difficult. We're looking at 15%, 0% | :35:45. | :35:48. | |
tops, and we need greater help from the Government and greater help | :35:48. | :35:54. | |
from the media to get people out. Democracy, it chooses in November, | :35:54. | :35:57. | |
which everyone says is the worst time to have an election, it is not | :35:57. | :36:01. | |
providing the information about the candidates which every candidate in | :36:01. | :36:05. | |
other elections normally get. They're makeing it difficult. Any | :36:05. | :36:10. | |
independence got to find �5,000 for the deposit, so have we, we're not | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
getting money from the party, we have to find it out, we have the | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
same difficulties as you as taking part. On that moment, we'll leave | :36:18. | :36:21. | |
it there. Now, here's a list of banned words, | :36:21. | :36:28. | |
none of which happens to be the F word, Olympics, Olympian, Games, | :36:28. | :36:35. | |
2012, 201. Using the law, using thoo words in advertise something | :36:35. | :36:41. | |
forbidden without the permission of organisers, LOCOG. It is hardly | :36:41. | :36:44. | |
surprising what people want to cash in what will be the biggest | :36:44. | :36:49. | |
opportunity in the summer. We have been investigating whether that | :36:49. | :36:59. | |
:36:59. | :37:04. | ||
Nobody messes with the Olympic brands. | :37:04. | :37:10. | |
We're getting in on the act too. Hold it Grahams, just one second, | :37:10. | :37:16. | |
that's beautiful, but do you mind popping this on for us. It is | :37:16. | :37:26. | |
:37:26. | :37:28. | ||
That's a nice look for you. If Big Grey here were to lose | :37:28. | :37:33. | |
concentration for a moment, the rings he's juggleling could | :37:33. | :37:38. | |
inadvertently fall into a well known configuration, and Seb Coe | :37:38. | :37:45. | |
could be shutting down this report before you know it. Look what | :37:45. | :37:51. | |
happened is, a party North website, run by the Duchess Cambridge's | :37:51. | :37:59. | |
family, came under fire. Were the Middletons coming in under fire for | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
the Olympics. You build your business up, through nothing from | :38:02. | :38:11. | |
the sweat of your brow, and then the Olympics come along, now any | :38:11. | :38:17. | |
half decent entrepreneur might think, this is a time to offer | :38:17. | :38:22. | |
people tomorrow at that time, amean quality products s that a crime. | :38:22. | :38:27. | |
would be concerned about it. The one thing that Trading Standards | :38:28. | :38:31. | |
and LOCOG are most interested in are references toss the rings. And | :38:31. | :38:37. | |
I think, I've only seen a couple of snaps, but the snaps I've seen | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
references the ring, not the specific five-ring device, but | :38:42. | :38:48. | |
certainly eludes to that. How are we fixed ourselves, if we entertain | :38:48. | :38:55. | |
the viewers with a juggle letter? You may be OK, because it is not | :38:55. | :39:00. | |
for commercial gain. The Middleton example, are using references toss | :39:00. | :39:04. | |
the rings, possibly, to create further sales. Your juggle letter | :39:04. | :39:10. | |
is here to entertain, so there wouldn't be a commercial connection. | :39:10. | :39:15. | |
LOCOG said they have no issue with the Middletons products, no | :39:15. | :39:19. | |
infringement has taken place, says a spokeswoman. But we may have to | :39:19. | :39:23. | |
ask them to make a tweak to the copy. The Culture Secretary was | :39:23. | :39:27. | |
relaxed. He claimed to notice only modest branding where the Games | :39:27. | :39:32. | |
were concerned. The Olympics, does more than pretty much any other | :39:32. | :39:36. | |
international sports event to reduce branding. It is the only | :39:37. | :39:40. | |
event which doesn't allow commercial branding inside sports | :39:40. | :39:45. | |
venues, and sponsors, who have been a bit maligned recently, are | :39:45. | :39:52. | |
playing for half the cost of hosting the Games in London. Games, | :39:52. | :40:02. | |
2012: Apparently inknock with us words, read for us by Radio 4's | :40:02. | :40:08. | |
Corrie could fall foul for combinations for so-called ambush | :40:08. | :40:17. | |
marketing. # You can't touch this # | :40:17. | :40:24. | |
So here's how the classic account are f of the ancient Olympic Games, | :40:24. | :40:34. | |
:40:34. | :40:49. | ||
would sound today as reacted under Newsnight the programme that | :40:49. | :40:54. | |
censureed. We asked as we do on a daily basis if LOCOG in charge of | :40:54. | :41:01. | |
running the Olympics want to come and speak to us about running the | :41:01. | :41:06. | |
Olympics, but like Usain Bolt they keep running away. Here we have | :41:06. | :41:13. | |
Clegg Clegg, and Kate Robertson chair of the international | :41:13. | :41:19. | |
advertising firm, Euro RSCG. What do you think is the problem here? | :41:19. | :41:23. | |
do understand that brands have to be protected, that the rings, and | :41:23. | :41:26. | |
the Olympics assets have to be looked after. That the money of the | :41:26. | :41:30. | |
sponsors is huge. What I think is a problem, that is there's an | :41:30. | :41:34. | |
unimaginative approach to this. The rules are old, you know they are. | :41:34. | :41:39. | |
They are very, very rigid. Consumers are not idiots, in the | :41:39. | :41:43. | |
social media world, there are lots of things that could be done | :41:43. | :41:51. | |
differently. There are 101 ideas. The thing that's wrong is | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
understanding enthusiastic stic policing bit. Sometimes and a lot | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
of the stuff around the Olympics for the sponsor brands and Olympics | :41:59. | :42:05. | |
brand are actually harming both. And then I think that's imaginative | :42:05. | :42:09. | |
and stupid. Do you take the point that some of this seems to be silly | :42:09. | :42:14. | |
and makes a little bit of the leadup of the Games silly. Perhaps | :42:14. | :42:20. | |
we forget after they start but it seems odd, McDonald chip police | :42:20. | :42:25. | |
come out and say you can't call it chips, that's the coverage you're | :42:25. | :42:29. | |
getting? It is all to do with the spwrerms of the law. They want a | :42:29. | :42:37. | |
degree of grainous in the law, - greyness in the law, you get black | :42:37. | :42:44. | |
and white. There have been some in the country who have over zealous, | :42:44. | :42:48. | |
there would be no Olympic Games without the sponsors. As part of | :42:48. | :42:54. | |
the bidding progress, we needed legally binding, unlimited | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
guarantee for the staging of the Games, so the British taxpayer | :42:58. | :43:02. | |
would fund any shortfall, if LOCOG is unable to deliver the | :43:02. | :43:05. | |
substantial money they need to raise. People will understand that. | :43:05. | :43:09. | |
But they need to understand a corner shop, with rings in the | :43:09. | :43:14. | |
window, celebrating this national event is not going to bring down | :43:14. | :43:17. | |
Coca-Cola? That's fair, it is when people are trying to make profit, | :43:17. | :43:21. | |
commercial gain out of the Games when they have not invested money | :43:21. | :43:26. | |
into supporting the Games in the first instance. LOCOG want to | :43:26. | :43:31. | |
celebrate the Olympic Games but it's got absolutely rightly and | :43:31. | :43:34. | |
properly to protect the commercial interest fundsing the Games. | :43:34. | :43:39. | |
seem to be imemploying they're not doing that, it could back fire? | :43:39. | :43:43. | |
is clearly back firing, I tell you what is wrong in the corner shop | :43:43. | :43:50. | |
example, is it is tough for the Games and big sponsors who put in | :43:50. | :43:55. | |
millions to think, OK, now these precious Olympic assets could be | :43:55. | :44:02. | |
used by God only knows who. So, at some point I would see LOCOG seems | :44:02. | :44:10. | |
to be IOC first, you know why, why can't a corner shop, who wants to | :44:10. | :44:16. | |
say, yea, London welcomes the Games, have the stuff, and if you want to, | :44:16. | :44:21. | |
say underNeath, thank you to all the Olympic part nerts, and they | :44:21. | :44:25. | |
allowed this. It is a pain in the neck, because you have to vet those. | :44:25. | :44:30. | |
But it back fires, and gets worse, when you get into the Olympics | :44:30. | :44:37. | |
assets and the big sponsors. So the visa exclues sift lock down is | :44:37. | :44:41. | |
insane for the visa brand. It is bad for visa. Everybody hates them. | :44:41. | :44:51. | |
:44:51. | :44:52. | ||
Because you get there, and you go oh. We've seen commercial creep, | :44:52. | :44:56. | |
over various owe limb pee yads, four year periods, commercial creep | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
to ensure there is clear blue waert between the individuals sponsors. | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
And those rights need to be protected, not only for the future | :45:05. | :45:11. | |
of the Games, but because of the staging of the Games in London for | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
the British taxpayer. There's the British sense of humour, saying you | :45:15. | :45:25. | |
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can't buy British beer, you have to buy behind Ken beer. - behind kin | :45:28. | :45:33. | |
beer. If you paid �40-50 million on the rights, you want a return on | :45:33. | :45:38. | |
the rights. This is the way it works. It is not a return on the | :45:38. | :45:41. | |
investment, and you know Y because that's such an expensive | :45:41. | :45:47. | |
sponsorship and lots of money, it is not about the behind kin or | :45:47. | :45:52. | |
Coca-Cola or McDonald's or visa useage in the park during the two | :45:52. | :45:55. | |
weeks. It is about the global impact on the brand and on the | :45:55. | :46:03. | |
brand is not good. So, those contracts need to be looked at, | :46:03. | :46:10. | |
each one and Madgeive solutions come up with. McDonald's should | :46:10. | :46:14. | |
support local food traders. There's room for more imagination? There is | :46:14. | :46:18. | |
that scope. But I recognise that people want to play in the grey | :46:18. | :46:22. | |
area, because you get in there, people will abuse it. So it has to | :46:22. | :46:27. | |
be black and white. That's all from us, we want us to leave news from | :46:27. | :46:32. | |
north corea, where you might thought being supreme leader was | :46:32. | :46:38. | |
big enough. But now another accolade has been declared on Kim | :46:38. | :46:42. | |
Jong Un, naturally thousands of troops expressed their genuine | :46:42. | :46:52. | |
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delight. Here they are accompanied by the track, Excellent Horse-Like | :46:55. | :47:03. | |
Lady Hyoth Song-wol wol, who is supposedly his girl frepd. Good | :47:03. | :47:13. | |
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Still showers to come on Friday, stl start the day dry and bright. | :47:32. | :47:36. | |
But central and southern parts of England, this is where showers get | :47:36. | :47:40. | |
going. Brighter conditions across the north. Things should improve | :47:40. | :47:44. | |
for the golfers after a wet start. But threat of storms, in and around | :47:44. | :47:50. | |
the Oval area, but those afternoon storms across the Midlands, central, | :47:50. | :47:55. | |
southern and South Eastern England that could cause problems. Light | :47:55. | :48:00. | |
showers here, many will stay dry and sunny throughout. Mid-to high | :48:00. | :48:05. | |
teens across southern and western Wales, but should stay dry. | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
Isolated light showers, eastern and Northern Ireland. Chilly start in | :48:09. | :48:13. | |
Scotland, but fewer showers to come, with Friday, compared to Thursday, | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
and most will see spells of sunshine. Difference between Friday | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
and sat, well there's going to be two-fold. Slight increase in | :48:21. | :48:25. | |
temperature and brightening of the skies. We will see sunshine develop, | :48:25. | :48:31. |