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This programme contains some strong lauguage. On the day Team GB's gold

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medalallies, past our haul in Beijing, David Cameron said it was

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a Golden Summer. How do we keep it golden long after the summerment

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Today, Mathew Syed say many events are out of reach for those not born

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with a silver spoon. It was meant to be the diversity Games, but has

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it lived up to its promise. Promises were made to local

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communities they would benefit in some way from the Olympics, whether

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that's getting to see it, whether it is running a business, and

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tkpwreting business from that, and that just hasn't happened. Former

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Olympians N the chair of UK Sport, debate if the sports will remain

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strong long after the days of summer have gone. Standard

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Chartered comes out fighting. Do the shocked waves and e-mails from

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the scandal, reveal a serious rift The death of Robert Hughes the man

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who delifd The Shock of the New. But was he wrong about contemporary

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art? We will be hearing from Simon Schama. Good evening. Sir Chris Hoy

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has become the most Garlanded Olympian ever, with sixth gold

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medal, on the day the blood, sweat and tears, paid off. In cycling,

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dressage and the triathlon, where the Brownlee brothers won gold and

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bronze, and Laura Trott won her second gold with a last gasp

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surgeon. This is our most successful Games formore than a

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century, but will they deliver the legry that has been promised.

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Tonight we exam two of the key aims of the Olympic Games, that they

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will help par tisation in sport and reach all groups, including ethic

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minorities. We have guests, including two medal winners,

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Baroness Campbell and James Cracknell. Elitism, are we making

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sports accessible to only the few. The first Games he will berated the

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intrinsic virtue of sport. The Olympics, a leveler, ignoring,

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class, colour or creed. Crucial then, the spirit of taking part of

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participation. But are the Olympics, as merocratic as they seem in will

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the sound and fury coming from athletics, it is hard to forget it

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has sports in sailing, Roweing, and dressage, how many kids in the East

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End of London, or on the streets of Delhi, andity choice of many sports

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the Olympics is as elitist as they come. The Frenchman, barren Pierre

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may have created the modern Olympics, but many sports were not

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accessible or popular, but they're dramatically overreacted with

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medals. There's 14 medals in Roweing, but two in basketball. The

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world, has moved on. This is a game played in south-east

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Asia, it is easy to learn, and wildly popular, like its Indian

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neighbour, it is completely ignored by the IOC. These Games may sound

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jaring in our ears but played by millions. In global terms, sports

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that are far more popular than say, dressage, hardly get a look in. And

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in that sense the Olympics have advantage and entrench advantage

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between nations. In too many cases it is too many children, thinking,

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taking part in sport just isn't for them. We've got to change that.

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Cameron's Eton, won more Gold Medals in Beijing than the withhold

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of India, and the rest of Britain, so well, so far in London 201, with

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private schools 7% have won 44% of Britain's medals. This is not to

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decry private schools, but it is to question the idea, that anyone can

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rise to the top, if they try hard enough. This isn't Eton. It is a

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school in Tower Hamlets, which hasn't much of a pedigree in show

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juching, but they still first to produce winners, and with far fewer

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resources. The facilities are limited. We are

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inner-city London, and we do not have football fields outside the

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school. As a result rev a hall, which as you can see, is not too

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extensive. We have in this particular case, eight tennis

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tables. You can get a sport with a lot of people to play in a small

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space. The greenhouse charity works across inner-city London. I

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occasionally work with them and seen the impact their coaches have

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in tearing down the obstacles that stand between poorer kids and

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benefits of sport. They act as coaches, and mentors.

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Instilling values that extend beyond the sports hall, starting

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with basics like attendance. I was going like, once or twice a

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week last year, and then, just went downhill. And then, when table

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tennis came along, I was coming every day of the week, because I

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play table tennis after school. What has that done for your school

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work? Improved it, because I'm in school. There's nothing else to do,

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and you're not playing table tennis, so you might as well learn. Are you

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we missing a strick strick the logic is to inspire a new

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generation of kids, to take up sports, with all the social benefit,

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that brings. But how on earth are kids supposed to take on rowing or

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sailing or equestrianism, if they wanted to. If the sport isn't the

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level playing field we think it is, what does it say about other areas

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of British life? In the sports we've doing so well in in the

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Olympic Games, you need a huge amount of resource and coaching to

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help you. That's the same in Britain, if you look at professions

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and academia, it is a real issue in this country. We have a society N

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the UK, where your family background, no the individual

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talent determine largely where you end up.

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# Some people think I'm bonkers # London 2012, talks of the diversity

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of modern Britain, yet it is as difficult to break into sporting

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eleets as it's ever been. Society that perpetuates entrenched

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advantage, is never going to be as successful that is meritocratic.

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Fatima Whitbread, James Cracknell and Baroness Campbell is with us,

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and chairs a schools sports trust. Fatima Whitbread you look how well

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we're doing. If we spent money on sports that

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were accessible to all, and these involve Olympic forts, would we do

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better? I would like to say this, nobody in their wildest dreams

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would have ever imagineed the amount of success we've had in 2012,

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so congratulations to all those and the leeths. What worries me, one of

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the most important things that comes out of this, is we're trying

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to inspire the next generation of youth. Thereof, what concerns me is

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this a sudden influx of young people coming into sports, clubs

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and schools, will struggle. And the Government had long enough to think

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about this, in terms of putting more funds in and into the

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structure and infrastructure and help it develop partnerships with

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the schools, and the clubs. There are a lot of specialised events

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that the schools can't cope with, and hope for the partnership of the

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clubs, which is a voluntary sector. You make the big funding decisions,

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am I right they're based on excellence. If rowing, does

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brilliantly, you will put more money into rowing. If sailing does

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good, you will put more in. If you put money into the kind of stuff

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that allows children to compete, and to grow, you're going to get

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rewards from that, don't just go with what is delivering gold?

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have to understand the structure. UK Sport isn't the only body that

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funds sport. There's Sport England, Wales and Northern Ireland, that

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participation. I call it the Formula One end of sport, it is to

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take those people who are talented and ensure they have everything

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around them to give them the best chance of world class success. What

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you're seeing is ten years of very hard work to create a high

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performance system in this country, using Lottery, and xeck ker money

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that is resulting great results across a range of sports, not just

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in a few selected sport. In sports the charge of elitism could be

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directed at these sports, for example in rowing and sailing,

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you're a big rower, you rowed, an independent school, do you think

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you had a natural advantage? Natural advantage in terms I went

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to a school that rowed, the same way, if I wanted to play rugby, I

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guess it was disadvantage, because the school went rowing, because

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someone got injured in rugby and they stopped it. I think it is

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elitism is one thing. What it does give you is that I was lucky enough,

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because of a good education, that I could take the gamble of saying,

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I'll see if I can go to the Olympics, and then fall back... I

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went to debt, but still thought there's education to fall back on,

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which is different from saying, I have to go to work straightaway.

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Who is going to get to row, kids in Hackney, are not going to be, able

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to even get a foot in the boat? I accept the statement you're

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making, but as it happens, rowing, are working exceptionally hard to

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trying to provide a whole range to provide access of rowing. They're a

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huge range of activities in schools, where they're using a rowing,

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machines, they're doing come and try activities, and they would say,

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clearly, the balance of people in rowing, is changing.

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You got to be near a river, for a start. Or a canal. But, in terms of

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rowing, clubs, which are better rather than skools schools, are

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cheaper to join than a gym. Don't mean rowing, means anything else.

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Let's take equestrianism, mill field school has a whole equest

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treeian centre, we should support that, if that's one of the sports

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in the Olympics, you want to do as well as you can? There are two

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different issues, one is do we want to maximise the medals, Team GB

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wins, and we've done that magnificently well. And sap sue has

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been involved in that class. The disconnect comes when we look at

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the rationale for public investment in the elite sport. The ration 58

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is it will have benefits, the Olympic programme have high entry

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costs, which are incredibly expensive for people to get

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involved with. Even if they wanted to get involved in dressage,

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showjumping, they won't be able to do it. The UK Sport which has one

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responsibility and without going through the quangos, sporting has

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the other, there's a disconnect between the rationals. Do you

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accept It depends whether you want to inspire a generation using sport

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as a tool. We've done a programme called international inspiration,

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which is the international legacy from London 2012, where where we

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worked in 20 developing countries, to tackle the broader social issues

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in the communities. So it isn't always that what you're doing is

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inspiring them to take up cycling. Surely that's the way that children,

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the way children understand excellence is to become better and

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better and better, in a sport. can they get better, when you're

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taking away the playing fields, and currently the 12 boroughs,

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surrounding the stadium, are playing on carparks. Funds for

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school sports as well. A lot of the unfortunately, it falls upon the

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schools, as it always does, to provide that level of expertise.

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Most of the specialised events can't be taught at schools. Usually

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what happens in the curriculum, there's not enough sport on the

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cuck limb, it only figures, or actually, concentrates on the

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different seasons, and probably days, two weeks, before the actual

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sport day, or cross-country, there's not enough, I don't think.

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The volunteerism. The Olympics should be about, is

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forming elite sport is one thing. In terms of the legacy to get

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people more physically active. That's is the bomb that is waiting

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to hit us. The physical active, to become, more active, the diabetes

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time bomb that will whack us, can be avoided. So, if you take,

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investing money into sport, if you think, the Beijing Olympics, no

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European or caw caseian got a medal in track, from 100 metres up to the

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Marathon. It is not amount of money, Mo Farah has changed that, but he

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has a different background. It is about getting people into

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physically active. And changing a social thing. You accept the way to

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do that, is to make sport, a centre, key thing in the curriculum to give

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facilities for children to enjoy sport. A lot of schools, don't have

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facilities, and demand, depend so much on volunteers don't they?

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Secondary schools have physical education teachers, but after

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school sport, that's a challenge. There is a bigger, and I agree

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entirely with you two, there's a bigger issue. Do you want

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Government to do more at primary schools? That's where we capture

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kids' imagination, inspiration, where we give them a chance, to be

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really activity. And Fatima to do that, we have specialist teachers,

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we we don't have that in our primary schools. Our kids, deserve

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the right to be as physically literate as they are in school.

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What does the Government say when you ask for more money? I don't do

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that for UK Sport. Is there beyond the UK. Olympics presents itself as

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global and inclusive mercratic institution, James picks out

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athletics, where medals are distributed around the world and

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low cost. But where is the Asian sports, they're wonderful, highly

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popular. We're having rugby sevens, and golf in Rio. I'm afraid I'm

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going to stop you there. We have to move on and continue this

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conversation, Jessica Ennis, Mo Farah, Louis Smith, diverse ethic

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backgrounds of the Olympians, have hailed some Team GB has embadment

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of the multi-kurlttuerl nation. Back when the bid was launched, the

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ethic diversity was one of the documents key selling points. How

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many of the pledges made in the bid to encourage diversity has been

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# I can feel my soul ascending # Thanks to the city's diversity,

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there will be supporters from every Olympic nation, every athlete will

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If, like me, you fancy shooting hoops on the court in that video,

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forget about it. It is not there any more. What of the proud claims

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we heard about diversity and inclusiveness, way back when the UK

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won the bid for the Games. According to official documents,

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London 01 was committed to ensuring the business opportunities provided

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by the Games, as spread as widely and fairly as possible. And, to

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getting more black, Asian, and minority ethic people involved in

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All right, come on, work the back. This gym in it west London has

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produced many title-winning boxers, including former British middle

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weight champ. Now it is under threat for closure for lack of

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money. Another prospect is 14-year- old, Vladimir Ndeda. His mum's

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Ukrainian, his dad's Kenyan, and he's all Londoner. Vladimir has

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been watching the boxing in the Games, and hope to go to Rio.

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you see people from your area, or new generation, you think that

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could be me one day, so you try to get to that position. Boxing is an

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art. I think it takes - if you got guts in boxing, you can do anything

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Mr Akay has been running this gym for almost 40 years, but he's

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struggling to keep it open, through fund raising appeals and the modest

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subs he charges his young contenders. Are you getting any

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backing from the Olympics people? No we haven't. That's one thing,

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which I find it very difficult to understand. I think, the Olympics,

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you concentrate from the grass roots, where people like these boys

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come from, and the clubs, and institutions like ours, I help them

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to encourage us to keep these boys ready for the Olympics, or whatever.

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So far, we haven't got any, they didn't even have a look at what is

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going on. Have you tried contacting them, and saying, we're here, we

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could do with some money? amount of boxers, we have this year,

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I don't want to beg for anything. They should be coming to us, to say

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for what you're doing, you deserve this, and help us to keep on going

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Ladies, would you like to try one of our new sandwiches.

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What about that pledge to give ethic minority businesses, a taste

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of those sweet Olympic contracts? This firm from London's gar nayian

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community, applied for VIP meals and feed some athletes. When the

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Olympics came along, we thought grab the opportunity, present

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ourselves in a positive light, where, we're a well respected

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business, we have big corporate clients, let's do this. We actually

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felt we could get even one little contract. Nothing came through.

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Part of me feels, perhaps, it was never intended for small business

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to get contracts. It was almost like, let do something to look like

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we're doing something about it, a situation to ensure people feel

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involved, or, they have the chance, a small chance, that's kind of the

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impression I get. They didn't really mean it? And there was no

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follow through or intention almost. Fewer than 7% of contracts have

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gone to businesss about owned by gone to businesss about owned by

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ethic minorities. Those communities, made up 15% of the workforce, who

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built the Olympic Park, as for the athletes of tomorrow, the Greater

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London Authority says it is spending �22.5 million on so-called,

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"Legacy sports projects". Black business leaders, say they're

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very poorly represented at the Games, even though they're held in

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boroughs, with large ethic minorities.

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The Olympics was won on the back of diversity and promises were made to

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local communities they would benefit in some way, whre weather

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that's going to see it, running businesses and getting business

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businesses and getting business from that, and that just hasn't

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happened. We invited represents from the Olympic Delivery Authority,

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and the Greater London Authority to discuss the issues raised in the

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film, but they told us no-one was available. ODA says it played an

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active role and engage in black, Asian and ethic minorities. Locog,

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said it exceeded the targets it set itself. I'm joined by Diane Abbott,

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whose constituency borders the Olympic Park. Does it look like

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that way to you? The Olympics are fantastic, the athletes, Opening

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Ceremony, all the wonderful volunteers, reflect the diversity

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of the area. Unfortunately, when it comes to jobs, and contracts, the

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people of the East End were let down. Locog, say they met targets,

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they were derisory. All this was said under the Labour Government.

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Do you think they didn't try hard, saying we want to enforce this

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point was the targets were set under a different mayor. A mayor

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who had a key role to play in this. What is striking, it is not just

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the lack of people getting jobs and contracts, it is the real issues is

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the low number of local people getting jobs and contracts. That's

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what underlice it. Did you try and do anything about this? I met with

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Ken, months after 2005, I met with the ODA, Ken was very committed, to

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putting pressure on the ODA and Locog, when you had a change of

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mayor, diversity is not his issue. If it delivered, not only the Games,

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but buildings, and facilities, on time, on budget, and to a high

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quality, will that in itself, not bring industry and business? I was

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reading the document for Locog, they had a picture of the last big

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team of apprentices, around 77 of them. I counted, I think, five,

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black apprentices. Whatever they say, the failure to get local kids,

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apprenticeships was scandalous. know it is not just territory, but

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you must have concerns over black and Asian and ethic minority

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business owners. I'm not in a position to comment. Obviously, I

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know that there has been a commitment on everybody's part to

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try and do that. But I'm no expert on that. You're saying clearly, you

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don't think Locog, made that commitment. The figures speak for

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themselves. Less than 20% of employees, on the Olympic Park,

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came from the five surrounding boroughs. Locog paid lip service.

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Looking now at both the question of for example the lucky star Jim, the

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- gym, now we have women's boxing in the Olympics, that fundamental

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support has not been there. You heard him say, 40 years and they're

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struggling to carry on. With the upsurgeon of boxing that needs to

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be addressed? There are hidden barriers, for economically

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disvainged to get into sport and he can sell, decent equipment and

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coaching, bordering the prospective a little. What about the

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professions, if the state needs to get involved, to ensure access, to

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elite sport, how much more for elite proprofessions. You are

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talking not the idea of sport for all, but competition for all. We

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need to get that engendered for all. This is a sense of belonging for

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your young children. We have a lot to be grateful for, the voluntary

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sector and what they do. We shouldn't have to rely on them, but

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we do. A lot of the children could be on the streets, involved in

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crime, drugs, and there could be a whole lot more issues going on.

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First and foremost, it is important we have the facilities, and

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voluntary services to help them. As I said, earlier, the schools, and

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the clubs coming together in partnership is important. But the

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ideology is really what's missing within the schools. What's wrong

:27:28.:27:31.

with being competitive, and what's wrong with winning, at the end of

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the day, this is what it is all about. Life is competitive. This

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idea that Hackney kids, and Hackney schools don't encourage competitive

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sports, is foolish. Before they started building, you would

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literally, hundreds of Hackney and East End children, being massively

:27:50.:27:55.

competitive on football. We have rowing, clubs, the issue isn't that

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Hackney kids don't want to compete. The problem is access to fassifplts

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Left-leaning, LEAs: I'm interested in a charity that funds, community

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sports clubs, the problem is the schools shut the gates and there is

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no place for the kids to go. So there are enough community sports

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clubs, which like the boxing gym, will give them discipline, a

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purpose, and social crime in the area around them reduces. You need

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to have a place. I have to saifplt The biggest

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punishment is... Thank you very much. I'm sure we'll return to this.

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Tomorrow, we'll be looking at another Olympic pledge that the

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Games will help grow the economy. In the next few days, we will look

:28:49.:28:55.

for the plans for the site, and regeneration of the local area. The

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American authorities, have called out Standard Chartered Bank, the

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second biggest, on allegedly trying to hide billions of dollars, tide

:29:05.:29:09.

to Iran, thus breaking rules, allegations the rather stayed

:29:09.:29:14.

institution deny as they watch the share price fall. The accusation

:29:14.:29:20.

follows quickly over the his his scandalsings reduced by the

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Americans. Given London is the global centre of banking, is it

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inevitable we have to take the heat or is the US guning for us in

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particularly. The report contains strong language. Connect with the

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bank that's connecting Asia, Africa, and Middle East for 150 years.

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Standard Chartered bank. Unfortunately forStandard Chartered

:29:46.:29:51.

Americans believe some connections with Middle East was illegal and

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hammering the share price 25% after a little known wing of a US

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Government, known as the New York State Department of Financial

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Service, accused the bank of ignoring the embargo on activities.

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The ADFS allegiance 60,000 transactions, are at issue and the

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bank was a rogue institution, motivated by greed, without any

:30:17.:30:22.

regard for the legal reputational and national security consequences

:30:22.:30:26.

of its flagrantly deceptive actions. It got its hands on internal e-

:30:26.:30:30.

mails, in one, an American working at the bank warned they might be

:30:31.:30:35.

breaching US rules, to which a breaching US rules, to which a

:30:35.:30:45.
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That type of industrial language, and alleged unethical behaviour is

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a far cry from the public sper exception of Standard Chartered as

:30:52.:31:02.
:31:02.:31:02.

one of the few ethical banks left. The institution said it is only UK

:31:02.:31:10.

institution most ethical worldwide. The bank refuteed the allegations

:31:10.:31:17.

says 99.9% of its transactions were above bored and legal. It is maybe

:31:17.:31:27.

known as these transactions were known as U-turns, they were allowed

:31:27.:31:31.

to 2008, provided they weren't originateing from and ending up in

:31:31.:31:37.

Iran. It is said Standard Chartered falsified details relating to these

:31:38.:31:43.

transactions. Not everyone has lost faith. Standard & Poors, said it

:31:43.:31:48.

wouldn't affect the credit rating and brokers in vest tech, told the

:31:48.:31:55.

shares were still a buy. Standard Chartered has too strong a record

:31:55.:32:01.

to be dismissed on basis of allegations that we cannot verify.

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There are regulators involved in this, and there seems to be one

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this, and there seems to be one that which took this drastic view.

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We believe that the management is right, in defending its record, and

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we hope that clarity will be achieved very soon.

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Only last week, the Standard Chartered boss, Peter Sands,

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boasted how his bank was boring and predictable, he is a favourite to

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take over from the Bank of England. Finding a singiling banker or

:32:30.:32:34.

regulator with no smudges is proving impossible. Why is it once

:32:34.:32:39.

again the Americans are coming down hardest on British banks. A month

:32:39.:32:48.

ago was Barclays, and his his, having gamble money. They've had

:32:48.:32:53.

gambleism for hundreds of years, only we in 20 years have seen the

:32:53.:32:58.

banking sector go off the rails. And, so I think they've developed a

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rel effective set of regulators, that do the job properly, in the

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way ours don't. It is interesting the Americans rather than the local

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regulator, which appears to be exposing British banks, wrongdoing.

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The Americans are exasperated that the British watchdog was snoozeing

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rather than barking or biting. But the Americans are also, guilty of

:33:18.:33:22.

appearing to push their foreign policy on foreign countries, and

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companies. The US dollar is the delobl reserve currency, but should

:33:29.:33:33.

every transaction be related from New York or Washington. Fifplt

:33:33.:33:37.

allegations are proveen true, this is devastating. When you say

:33:37.:33:42.

devastating, could this destroy the bank as we know it? Credibility of

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the bank will be destroyed. The only way the bank in this operation,

:33:46.:33:52.

can survive is to root out, strip out all the problems, rebuild from

:33:52.:33:56.

ground zero and operate aid cording to strict controls. Standard

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Chartered could face formal charges this month. If found guilty could

:34:00.:34:04.

lose its banking licence in New York. But the real damage, would be

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on its global reputation, which may never recover.

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Here to discuss this latest blow to the City of London's reputation,

:34:14.:34:22.

are Mark verks erman who runs a advising bankers, and the editor of

:34:22.:34:26.

City AM, a question, do you think there's a sense which the Americans

:34:26.:34:31.

are out to get us? There is a sense amongst some in the City is that is

:34:31.:34:41.
:34:41.:34:42.

the case. UK banks have made mistakes, but eurozone have too.

:34:42.:34:49.

Bad to think none of the problems originated there. In fact, the sub-

:34:49.:34:52.

prime crisis was American, Fannie Mae and many of the problems were

:34:52.:34:57.

from the US. Everybody is to blame for the crisis. This narrative that

:34:57.:35:00.

is projected by Americans, that all of the problems are from London is

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wrong. But, Mark, look at whose made the accusation, the New York

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State Department of finance, a little known organisation, and

:35:10.:35:14.

although different financial authorities, this one, has suddenly

:35:14.:35:19.

come up with the accusation, which of course, Standard Chartered,

:35:19.:35:25.

refute all but bar .1% of it? I find shocking is a organisation

:35:25.:35:30.

like this, New York state, enterity has brought a major case. 30,000

:35:30.:35:35.

document they've looked at, years to do the examination, and the

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investigation, these are extremely serious charges, they would never

:35:39.:35:42.

have laid the charges without a strong, underlying evidence of

:35:42.:35:48.

truth. What I find absolutely shocking, here, is the fact that

:35:48.:35:55.

three, extremely large British banks in a row, Barclays, his his,

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and now Standard Chartered, have demonstrated, lack of superprigs.

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You think it is justifiable as it were hunt? It is not a hunt, the

:36:05.:36:14.

evidence speaks for itself. Look at this language, from The New York

:36:14.:36:15.

State Department of Financial Service.

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Saying there's a result of this, a vulnerability to terrorists, drug

:36:22.:36:27.

King pins, corrupt regimes, this is a ramping up of language is it

:36:27.:36:33.

helpful? If you look language on page 20, where it says the CEO

:36:33.:36:37.

assured the deputy the bank was compliant in all matters, and they

:36:37.:36:44.

believed he lied to the examiners, here is a CEO... You had it coming,

:36:44.:36:48.

three failures, is what Mark is saying? This is a claim from

:36:48.:36:51.

effectively a prosecutor. The language is too over the stop and

:36:51.:36:55.

extreme. It sounds like a lirks, trying to make a point. I have no

:36:55.:37:00.

idea, the right and wrongs of this case F Standard Chartered did do

:37:00.:37:05.

wrong, they need to be penalised. It is not UK banks, but it involves

:37:05.:37:11.

up to 20 banks. But in terms of what is Standard Chartered, the

:37:11.:37:19.

immediate impact is the share price st? It collapsed by 25%, regulator

:37:19.:37:23.

accuses an institution of having done something, and immediately,

:37:23.:37:27.

the institution is penalised regardless of whether the full

:37:27.:37:33.

scale of what is claimed is true. disagree and it is missing the

:37:33.:37:38.

point. The point is two-and-a-half to three years investigation,

:37:39.:37:42.

30,000 documents, damning e-mails. Standard Chartered knew it was

:37:42.:37:50.

comeing Yes and the instructions came from London. All of the

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frauds: I am not defending chartered.. I'm not putting the

:37:55.:37:59.

case to the prosecution, I'm saying the sefdz so damning, it is

:37:59.:38:03.

difficult to say, how if at all, Standard Chartered could do

:38:03.:38:09.

anything whore other than attempt to soften the blow. The bigger

:38:09.:38:15.

story here is with HSBC, and now this, is that the damage it is

:38:15.:38:21.

doing to the probety as the world's major centre? It shows massive

:38:21.:38:26.

failures in British institutions, and regulatery failures, in the UK.

:38:26.:38:30.

My point is it is not and just UK that have failed, there's

:38:30.:38:34.

corruption all over the place in other countries and banks. Is this

:38:34.:38:38.

damaging London in particular? is damaging London, because what's

:38:38.:38:43.

happening is this type of tone at the top, this failure to supervise,

:38:43.:38:48.

and this type of behaviour, has been not looked at in Britain, but

:38:48.:38:52.

it is looked at elsewhere. And it is time for the UK regulators to

:38:52.:38:59.

wake up and get justice, top as the HSBC and these organisations, not

:38:59.:39:04.

only in British banks but every bank which break the law. Sthool

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we're out of time. Robert Hughes Australian art critic, died today,

:39:12.:39:17.

had a formidable capacity of criticism for architectture in the

:39:17.:39:27.
:39:27.:39:29.

20th century. Of the American artist, he said slimy assurance his

:39:29.:39:34.

gift was to view modern art of the priex of seismic shifts of the

:39:34.:39:41.

century, as evidenceed in his TV series, shock of the new. He had a

:39:41.:39:46.

vision of New York as a possible, though floued uetopa. New Yorkers

:39:46.:39:52.

didn't take that seriously, then, today they still don't. Not taking

:39:52.:39:59.

artists at their own lofty estimatation, this was his message

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too, and nothing, not even dirty great reflections on window screens,

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was going to stop him saying it Planners have tried done vert,

:40:09.:40:14.

living towns into uetopa, they've destroyed them. It seems that like

:40:14.:40:22.

plants, we do need the sit of others for nutrients. A malgam of

:40:22.:40:28.

van knack later and scholarly, that's how one described the screen

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persona and writing of Robert Hughes. He changed the way

:40:35.:40:42.

television looked at art, and more importantly how viewers looked at

:40:42.:40:46.

art, with his series The Shock of the New.

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In so far a different wall is to accommodate a human bottom, that's

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one of the Platonic solds, in ideal form but never made flesh. The fact

:40:59.:41:04.

about it is august as they are, they are not really furniture,

:41:04.:41:10.

they're sculpture. That was the thing, Hughes, compared human to

:41:10.:41:14.

sculpture. Before him, they were grand men of the class who never

:41:14.:41:19.

bought their own furniture. until then, ambitious, TV series or

:41:19.:41:25.

not, had been dominate by Kenneth Clark, he was actually very posh.

:41:25.:41:33.

And if you compare him for a moment with Bob Hughes, coming in from

:41:33.:41:40.

another world, with the Australian directness, none of this posh

:41:40.:41:50.
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genteel, behaviour, that was quite # You're just too good to be true #

:42:01.:42:10.

Hughes brought the great outdoors. A great outdoors man, he could have

:42:10.:42:17.

forgive Hughes the shark, It has a ghostly presence, it is no more

:42:17.:42:23.

than a halibut on the fish shop. is not that Hughes hated modern art,

:42:23.:42:30.

he loved it, a lot of it, but the concept actual art of the YBAs,

:42:30.:42:35.

like hours, and Tracy emen. compares her erotic experiences to

:42:35.:42:44.

those with Jesus on the cross, this would be news to Mel Gibson.

:42:44.:42:50.

I worked harvesting, 50 years ago from school. You're the little boy

:42:50.:42:56.

in Constable. He tried and fail to be a painter, which may have given

:42:56.:43:02.

him an insight into the art like David Hoc any. I have a big project

:43:02.:43:08.

coming up and I'm looking forward to it. You always have a project,

:43:08.:43:18.
:43:18.:43:23.

it is called the world, mate. first of all, it seems, one of the

:43:23.:43:29.

gifts was engaging people in the idea of discussion about art?

:43:29.:43:36.

but he was he revelled in the juice of language. He had written poetry

:43:36.:43:41.

in his day, actually. And in some way, he actually turned this

:43:41.:43:48.

incredible, appetite for language, into a detackive instrument, into

:43:48.:43:55.

communication. What he hated, among the many things, Bob was a great

:43:55.:44:03.

hateer of the mertrirks and vain and nar cystic, and sank moan news,

:44:03.:44:08.

and theatrical. He hated theory loaded discussions about art, and

:44:08.:44:14.

hate the nose wringling finely dressed exquitityness of the art

:44:14.:44:24.
:44:24.:44:24.

world. What he loved was the rough craft of art. He went along with

:44:24.:44:28.

mike Michaelanglio, and Rembrandt that you got dirty with the meat of

:44:28.:44:34.

art bf you could actually earn, could get a yield of true greatness.

:44:34.:44:38.

Did he, where he did The Shock of the New, did he have a blind spot

:44:38.:44:44.

for concept actual art. For example, we can talk about the other artists,

:44:44.:44:53.

but also, what he decision liked, Joyce self Boys, he had no point of

:44:53.:45:00.

concept actual art? He wasn't terrificly keen on it, if it was

:45:00.:45:08.

providing a concept weren't banal. The concept she tried to deliver

:45:08.:45:16.

was a sampleier, embroidery logan or hallmark card. What Bob minded

:45:16.:45:21.

was the notion, that those did not headline themselves as concept

:45:21.:45:26.

actual artists were devoid of intellect. He thought a great

:45:27.:45:33.

artists were in their own way intellectual giept. The notion that

:45:33.:45:38.

by calling yourself a concept actual art, means the concept was

:45:38.:45:43.

interesting, he would cackle with laugh ter at. I just want to talk

:45:43.:45:49.

about the fatal shore, when he looked at the history of Australia,

:45:49.:45:55.

and thought there was nothing written about it, it became a

:45:55.:46:00.

famous book? Deservedly so. Read the art criticism, but do not miss,

:46:00.:46:07.

before you die, don't care how old you are, don't miss reading the

:46:07.:46:17.
:46:17.:46:17.

Fatal Shore. It will change your when told about Hughes, it was told

:46:17.:46:23.

with a musclar, physical sense of being in the shoes of desperate

:46:23.:46:27.

people. You are with their desperation. And the thing about

:46:27.:46:32.

Bob, for whom I grieve and mourn, he was irreplaceable union of head

:46:32.:46:39.

and heart. He had a mind like a razor blade. But he felt it all in

:46:39.:46:43.

that big, old communicating body of his. And the like of that, doesn't

:46:43.:46:49.

often come along. Thank you very much. Well today be the death of

:46:49.:46:53.

the composeer, Marvin Hamlish was announced he died at 68 after a

:46:53.:46:57.

brief illness. He was best known for his work on films, and we leave

:46:57.:47:02.

you tonight with him in 1977 singing the song that won him an

:47:02.:47:07.

Oscar. # We were Neath innocent nor wise

:47:07.:47:17.
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# As we are now # Now we hope to make the memories

:47:19.:47:24.

last # But times been known to change

:47:24.:47:31.

the past # Pressed within some yesterday

:47:31.:47:41.
:47:41.:47:51.

# We'll stay Good evening, so far this summer,

:47:51.:47:58.

we've had low pressure, weather over the next few days, we'll see

:47:58.:48:04.

pressure rising. Starting to see signs of that in the north still

:48:04.:48:09.

system to the south. This is 4.00 in the afternoon, sunshine across

:48:09.:48:13.

northern England, with temperatures around 21 degrees. Maybe up to 22

:48:13.:48:19.

in London. Risk of one or two light showers along the south coast, but

:48:19.:48:23.

for most, Wednesday afternoon shall be dry and bright and warmer than

:48:23.:48:29.

it has over recent days. Increasing amounts of sunshine in Wales, and

:48:29.:48:32.

light winds. Northern Ireland, well broken cloud giving sunny spells.

:48:32.:48:38.

18 degrees in Belfast, but a few degrees higher than that, out

:48:38.:48:43.

towards the west. West Scotland good spells of sunshine. A little

:48:43.:48:49.

bit more kwhroued here and maybe one or two light showers. Inverness,

:48:49.:48:52.

overcast, but Thursday, temperatures up to 18 degrees.

:48:52.:48:55.

Edinburgh, some sunny spells in the forecast here.

:48:55.:48:59.

Now although we may see cloud at times in London, temperatures will

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