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09/08/2012

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They go to war, and come back seriously injured. Are we failing

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to look after our wounded soldiers? getting the help they need. And

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expensive buildings. Rather than see ever again. I won't see that

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responds. I refute this idea that some how there is something wrong

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with charities being involved in the work that we do with injured

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service people, and disabled the general staff, and the charity,

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Nicola Adams becomes the first-ever woman to win boxing gold at the

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Olympics. But in the men's boxing, Newsnight asks whether it is always

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a fair fight. We spoke to people at the very heart of Olympic boxing,

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who alleged medals could be bought and sold for the right price here

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takes charge in October is hopefully going to tell us.

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Those who put their lives on the country, deserve all the financial

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give them. That's what the Ministry of Defence said today, in response

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to criticism, uncovered in a report by Newsnight, and the Bureau of

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have heard a bit about it already, here is the full story. A word of

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warning, this report contains some graphic images.

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British troops under fire. Bearing the brunt of an early Taliban

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offensive. The wounded returning home, maimed, scarred for life.

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Your whole treatment, you are get fixed. There is no proper care

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have died than fund his rehabilitation and his care. We

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have had to fight constantly for every aspect of Ben's life. The MoD

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will not see them again, I won't have left. A year ago, the Military

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Covenant was enshrined in law, setting out the Government's legal

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responsibility to serving personnel and veterans. But how well do we

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And military charities, with more than a billion in the bank, why are

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our wounded still saying they are not getting the help they need.

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A reception fit for a hero. Lance Bombardier Ben Parkinson, still

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serving, is one of the worst injuries, losing both legs, with

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He now lives with his mother, and stepfather. You want to stay in

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your bed not in the car? You send away a 22-year-old,

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incredibly fit, paratrooper, and what comes back is the same person,

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but the life is changed forever, You would think that nothing could

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fight for the basics that he needs to make some kind of life. So far,

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fewer than 2,000 service personnel have been seriously wounded in

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Afghanistan and Iraq. Many with horrific blast injuries from mines

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and IEDs. I remember just sprinting and then just massive, massive bang.

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And then I woke up on the floor. It when I was getting dragged against

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the floor, my brain was bouncing on Sometimes I wish I had, I was in

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agony. I went to sleep with an arm, longer there. I was just like,

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flipping hell. What do you do? 20 years old what

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do I do? And his treatment by the MoD was less than sympathetic. He

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remembers being fitted with his first prosthetic limb. The first

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one I got was white, it was like a small white hand this big, in that

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shape. I was like, OK? That is. I felt better in myself going out

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in public with it on. So I just had enshrined the Military Covenant in

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although capped. There are plans for new centres to retrain the

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injured. The Murrison Reviews of the last two years resulted in

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extra money for amputee prosthetics, and those suffering from post-

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traumatic stress disorder. But still those we spoke to, say the

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system is failing. The problem comes when you leave. When you are

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discharged from the forces. Everybody is terrified of this

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discharge date. Because you know that once the discharge comes, then

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you are back on the mercy of the NHS. We know many who struggle with

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sockets, which is the bit that actually fits on to the stump. The

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NHS thinking it is that it's up to 11 layers of socks on the

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stump to actually make it fit. the prosthetic arm he has been

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offered is not up to scratch. know I have a false leg and false

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arm, it doesn't mean I don't want walking around like this and that.

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I want walk as normally as I K that is megaimportant. I still want --

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as I can. That is mega-important, I want a proper fake hand, I don't

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just want anything on it. wasn't as good as the one I went

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there with. I got my own one, I it? �7,000. The might was wounded

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support for charities trying to plug the gap. For the first time,

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assessed the worth of military raise nearly �700 million a year.

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charitable purposes. Just over a billion sits in the bank. With

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newer than 2,000 seriously injured from recent conflicts, it begs the

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question, why are they not getting prominent charity, by far, is Help

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for Heroes. Its rise to fame and founded by Bryn Parry, a former

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army officer and his wife. I think saw some amazing young men with

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terrible injuries, and we were just moved, so there wasn't, I don't

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think our motivation was ever criticising, our motivation was

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purely trying to do something to help. We felt really inadequate,

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going to hospitals was the most shocking thing I had had ever done.

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It was a simple desire to try to do something.

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So far, Help for Heroes has raised �141 million. This is the charity's

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flagship project, Tedworth House in Tidworth, Wiltshire. This is the

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Home, leased from the MoD, it is a grade II listed building. �20

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million of oppulent luxury, it is a cross between Grand Designs and an

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English Heritage advert. Marble statues, stained glass windows,

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ornate plaster work. Renovated to the highest standards, with charity

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best, and I have an image of a mother or a wife coming down that

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drive to the best house in Tidworth officers' mess, not full of

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privileged people, but full of the rank and file. I know that mother

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appreciated. The vast majority of Help for Heroes spending is on

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these personnel recovery centres, building and services five bespoke

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MoD facilities around the country. The overall planned spend is �153

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million. Primarily for serving service personnel. Veterans can

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only return on a priority, case-by- criticism. It is coming from close

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who work there are great, and they But, I think they have got so much

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let's do it, rather than �100 million being spent on limbs for

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every single guy who has been going to see ever again, because

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Parkinson has been given unique status. While other seriously

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wounded soldiers are being discharged, he is still serving.

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And Help for Heroes, not the MoD, is paying for his physiotherapy.

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His mother, duornduornduorn, also questions spending so much charity

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money on capital construction projects. We find it difficult to

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see these buildings, these edifices that are being paid for by charity.

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It's our belief that the MoD, if there is building work, if there is

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the need for a location, that should be the MoD's responsibility.

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to support these guys, to support their families. We asked Bryn Parry

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whether spending millions on MoD use of charity funds, or should it

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it be wonderful, that is utopia. It wasn't going to happen, unless we

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public truly understands that the bulk of your money has gone on

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capital construction projects? That is exactly what we have been

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started. Corporal Harris Tatakis, tau some of the fiercest fighting

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the last day of his tour when he was deployed on one last offensive,

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burning flesh, it does smell of all black, the diesel fuel, the

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blast came up my lefthand side, it was all black and burned, I

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couldn't see any skin on it. I remember the pain from the leg.

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back together, with injuries to his was discharged just over a year ago.

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I left, and nothing. Not even a was doing and coping. I was having

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no treatment, my treatment had stopped, cold turkey.

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into his recovery centre in will solve the problem, that they

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are there for our injured and any more. They are right, the

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priority has to be the guys who are newly injured. But, just because

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you are discharged, doesn't mean five recovery centres, only two,

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outside the wire, or accessible to those no longer serving. And they

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are all primarily for serving service personnel. Veterans can

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only return on a priority case-by- case basis. General Lord Dannatt

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-- Lord Dannatt is the former head the recovery centres. He

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acknowledges there is a problem, and says a more co-ordinated,

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independent approach is needed. idea of a veterans' Tsar was mooted

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doesn't seem to much like it either. The Prime Minister would say he's

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chairing a cabinet committee in the best interests of the veterans and

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soldiers. I think someone who stands independent of Government,

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keeping Government up to the mark, mark and keep the charities in line,

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there is a case for that. fringe certificate pointed squarely

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spurred the likes of Help for Heroes to step up to the plate. But

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the charity has to work within perameters set by the MoD. And

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according to our worst wounded, charity money, they are still not

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getting what they need. It makes me absolutely everything for Ben. I

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it bearable at the time was the thought that we are doing this so

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nobody else will have to. I wish I to talk to the Secretary of State,

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Philip Hammond. Would you like to take this opportunity to apologise

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to those injured soldiers who feel let down by your ministry? Well,

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centres, I think, is one in which we can be very pleased with the

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result that is we are achieving. always be some people who are

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their particular, personal cases, and every case is different. Every

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plan is tailored, everybody is looked at as an individual. I can't

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say nothing has gone wrong for anybody, but the personnel recovery

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centres created have been a fantastic advance in the way we

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or back to worthwhile activity in civilian society. I want to ask you

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about some of the problems the case of a serving soldier,

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Lance Bombardier Ben Parkinson, he injuries, and some brain-damage. He

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is still a serving soldier, as you being paid for by charitable

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donations. Do you think that's acceptable? I don't know the

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circumstances around that particular issue. But I do know

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that we work very closely, not just the best possible treatment

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in a dedicated military facility, sometimes it will be in an NHS

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facility. Sometimes it will be in a third-party facility. Should it be

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there is something wrong with work that we do with injured

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service people and disabled veterans. Do you share the concerns

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of some vet ens, that -- veteran, that Help for Heroes money is being

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they think the better way would be understand the concern expressed,

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but I believe the personnel recovery centres have been a major

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and important innovation. They home they can go to for

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recuperation or rehabilitation, themselves. They need somewhere

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where their care can be co- ordinated. Although, in the case of

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Ted worth house in Wiltshire, Help doing it up, this is place with

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windows, yet as we heard in the report, some veterans are

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bit of a contradiction there? a listed building, and bringing it

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back into use has meant complying around listed buildings, including

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restoration. What Help for Heroes building, as a centre fitting for

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the heros they are going to look appropriate? MoD, which owns the

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building, is leaseing it for �1. Help for Heroes, really expect it

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to be spent on marble statues? have, of course, chosen to build a

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modern building for �20 million on a Greenfield site, that looked very

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much like any other NHS site or take a lease of �1 a year, of this

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to service. That is a judgment, it has to be for them to make that

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report a serving soldier, who is having a charity pay for his

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tell us they haven't been able to Are you going to take up the

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suggestion of Lord Dannatt, and appoint a veterans' Tsar to sort

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going on in the past, and has been resolved, thanks to Murrison murs's

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report, and the admission -- Murrison murs's report, anded

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to the NHS. You have put it to me that veterans can't get access to

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issues that need to be worked on. We have established a cross

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Government cabinet committee, led and we are only in early August. It

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notish just issues around veterans, but serving personnel and families.

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We have enshrined in law the Military Covenant, and we are

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making it work. It isn't going to Finally, I must ask you about the

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news about the body parts, and tissue from 30 soldiers killed in

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Afghanistan, were kept without permission from their families. How

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did that happen? We're investigating exactly how it did

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happen, and the army has issued an of those people involved. It

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shouldn't have happened. The taking of samples is routine, in some

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cases the retention of them is But it should always be done with

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permission of the next of kin. And reasons that we are not absolutely

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clear about at the moment, we are the army will want to make a

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happened, and how we can be confident that it won't happen

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again. Let's discuss all this further with

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some of the people we saw in that report, former Royal Marine, Ben

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McBean, injured in service in Afghanistan. General Lord Dannatt,

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2009, and the chief executive of Help for Heroes, Bryn Parry. What

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did you think of what the minister said? It didn't seem like he

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about. There is a lot of things going on, which he didn't seem to

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know about, or want to really comment on. I mean, don't get me

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wrong, the public aren't upset and I haven't heard anyone moan, I'm

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to do with it, that is irrelevant. You were complaining about the

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buildings? The buildings itself, what it is, I'm sat here now as an

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in Plymouth, I know there is a lot of people not happy with Help for

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something, and it is my job to. What it is, for example, people who

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they assume it goes to guys like way, shape or form, as a civilian

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they are seeing, and what they think is happening is it is being

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spent on bricks and mortar. That is bringing it up. Are you sure you

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speak for thousands of people? Definitely, I have e-mails, people

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have sent me letters since my injury, people have written to me

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and said things. I have had letters saying why are you a Help for

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Heroes, why don't they help the minister took the view, that there

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are thousands much -- of skefrs personnel veryfied with the

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treatment they receive, and no system is perfect, and we are

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helped hundreds, if not thousands have had since your article

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appeared in the news today. I sneed to point out Ben is a brill -- I

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need to point out Ben is a brilliant guy, and has Donmarthons

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and climbed Everest, we have to are here for you now. The people

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not the young Royal Marines who move on, we want to make sure they

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are ready before they move on. Once they do, and if they get out in

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veterans are still being seen on a priority case-by-case basis. In

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Tedworth it is still a majority of serving personnel? It is, we have

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had 44 through since we opened the temporary acomcation, out of 250

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servicemen. We have veterans working there on job creation

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schemes. We have had the former general coming in last week with a

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view to use the aqua jogger and tread mill. We are there for life.

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We do individual support, I have been looking at the figures, over

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2,000 individual cases of year-and-a-half. Amounting to over

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want to take up is Help for Heroes, and none of the serving charities,

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do prosthetics, that has to be the Government work. When we first

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started, we went in to try to help. Review, we were perhaps not

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providing a comprehensive support December 2010, please let me finish,

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we were enabled to get the Murrison Review to start, that support is

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now there. Thank you very much for that. I want to bring Lord Dannatt

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on the point of access to all of five of them, and the veterans

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them, because they are behind the wire, they are in garrisons. You

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have raised concerns about that in the past, are you happier now?

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while strategy on which the is Headly Court, and then what?

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Ministry of Defence saw the problem slow. If Help for Heroes and other

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charities had not put significant have happened. What is really

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serving wounded today, are the point of making the buildings

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young cohort, wounded in Iraq and those centres will be available for

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them. The big trick is to get the Ministry of Defence understand it?

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put rather more forcefully to Philip Hammond. We are clear,

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that they are for veterans. That is why, in the early days of Help for

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Heroes, it was thought it might only exist as a fund-raising

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charity for a few years. Then it Iraq and Afghanistan, and for the

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rest of their lives. Ben here, a wonderful chap, with the rest of

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have done lots of work for Help for speaking on behalf of loads of

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people, it is me with the balls to sit here and say it. People aren't

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moaning about prosthetic limbs, what it is about is people are

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unhappy, I know this, they are unhappy because, for example, the

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Government, who should be spending Tedworth House, it is their duty it

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is their problem, Help for Heroes should be saving their �20 million

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on other things. What would I spend it on? Limbs for example, so the

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guys don't ring me up today and say like that. Do you feel that

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the Ministry of Defence should be wonderful world if the Ministry of

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Defence and Government could do what is right or wrong or somebody

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British Legion, massive partner, we are working with all the service

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charities to create something in British history something as

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good as this has happened. It is a great shame that some people are

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into it. The support will be there for these guys' lives, that is

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important. It is not about knocking, and make it obsolete, that is not

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opinion, and people are saying they are not happy with Help for Heroes,

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you obviously can't take that, I'm not knocking it, or saying negative

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people who are happy with Help for Heroes. I gathered that. You have

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to crater for those who aren't are like me in the same boat.

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Thank you. The quest for gold at the London Olympics has excited the

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world. All that drama as athletes at the height of their powers

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compete to be the best of the best. Including Nicola Adams in the

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women's boxing today. But is relation, uncovered evidence of

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secret payments of millions of dollars from Azerbaijan, and there

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was claims that they could guarantee gold medals in boxing at

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the Olympics for Azerbaijan. As the closing bell sounds, Nicola

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to underline the superiority she showed. This is exactly what fans

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have come to see at Olympic boxing? Nicola Adams of Great Britain, has

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just made sporting history. She is the first Olympic boxing champion.

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tournament. But some of the men's results haven't been quite so clear

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cut. Eyebrows were first raised last Wednesday night, as Azerbaijan

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the boxer from ass zer by January in blue, went down, not once, not

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down, not once, not twice. But six times. And the referee still

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declared him the winner. The result, another blow for the integrity of

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Olympic boxing. (crowd boos) You can understand why

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the Japanese fighter is disgusted. He will go over and shake his

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opponent's hand, but an empty one. After an appeal by Japan, the

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decision was overturned, the boxer the referee was on the next plane

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home to Turkmenistan. But then, four days later, another boxer from

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Azerbaijan wins, astounding the audience. I don't believe it,

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whatsoever. How did they give that to the man from Azerbaijan.

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didn't agree with that decision at all. There is a lot of speculation

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flying around about the relationship between Azerbaijan and

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the World Series of boxing, and all sorts of things, and there were

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I really believe in my heart of hearts. Jim Neily, commentating on

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suprised a lot of people. He has had two iffy decisions, in his

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favour n my opinion. Belarus also appealed, this time it wasn't

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fighters in the finals, that means they are guaranteed two bronze

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they win the next bout, they will be fighting for gold. That won't

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we got hold of a confidential investment agreement between

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someone from Azerbaijan, and World Series Boxing, run by the same

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people in charge of Olympic boxing. The investor from Azerbaijan, paid

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$9 million to fund an almost quid pro quo, they said the deal

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was for two gold medals at the Olympics. So long as they got the

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medals, WSB would have the cash. What do they mean by that? Well,

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London Olympics, those medals. It care ass better by January. That

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Ivan is the head of World Series Boxing? We put it to them. We have

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very transparent organisation. We have done everything in our power

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ruled in a bad manner. We have witnesses who said you promised

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Azerbaijan two gold medals in that to us? I don't know who are

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the witnesses? The President of the International boxing association,

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allegations were untrue and transparent way, with a "zero

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Boxing has had its fair share of scandals and accusations of match-

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fixing, the most memorable at the Seoul Olympics, when Roy Jones

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fighter. Three judges were suspended. The word was booking

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authorities had been bribed $2 million by South Korea in return

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for two medals. Boxing has to be seen to be squeaky clean in London.

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Jones scandal, the whiff of that the IOC would have to look

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seriously at boxing. If the British heavyweight, Anthony Joshua, and

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the Azieri come through to fight, it won't be the first time. They

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met in Azerbaijan when Joshua lost. for the Olympic Games. But this

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time, their match will come under more scrutiny than ever before.

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Tonight we have received a Azerbaijan, in exchange for two

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gold medals at the Olympic Games in London is untrue. He said he has

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worked extremely hard over the last six years to clean up amateur

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There is only one way to win a gold at the Olympic Games, that is to

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happens after all the athletes park like no other. What is

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happening to those builders we have for the masses. Continuing our look

:38:33.:38:43.
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we look at what's going to happen �6 billion spent on glistening new

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venues for this summer's games. What happens when those long

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memories of the golds fade away. established itself, and why not the

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Olympics again! Come on, does made an unanswerable case for

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next 20 years. Another Olympic bid front of the world's media, Boris

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Johnson set out his future plans for the Olympic site today. We can

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secure a transport, housing infrastructure, sporting cultural

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London for these games. And turn come. When it comes to the Olympic

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Park theself, all the flat-packed dismandled. Eight permanent

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structures will remain. The stadium athletics, and maybe for football

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as well. The velodrome and BMX track will also stay, along with

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London's East End, wasn't just about stadia and infrastructure, it

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was about creating decent, affordable housing, in one of the

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capital. Now the end is in sight, real questions are being asked

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about London's ability to deliver on that promise. On July 27th, 2013,

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exactly a year after the Opening Ceremony, London should get a brand

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new open space. Another �300 million is being spent developing

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what will be called the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park. Thousands

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of new homes will eventually be built on the site. The first set of

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properties converted from flats in sold at the going rate, the other

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half will be called "affordable homes", a mix of council housing,

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shared ownership, and artificially controlled rents. But, that

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definition of "affordable", depending on how much you earn.

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homes can be rented out at up to 80% of the market rate. In this

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part of London, that could mean �750 a month for a two-bedroom flat,

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little more than a dream. The years. Affordability does not mean

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what it used to mean. You are salaries of �50,000 plus to get

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have got 35,000 people on the housing waiting list. Over 3,000 in

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entry ticket to the race? They just don't have it. Locals worry that

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any new flats blil built in the park may be affordable -- built in

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is responsible for developing the He says building larger states of

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don't want to return to council isn't the right way to go. Having

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moment. It is the sale of private housing that will enable the London

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Legacy Development Corporation to fund the construction of the

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affordable housing. It is basic The creation of the Olympic Park

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City and the West End, of meant to end up in deprived inner city areas.

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The trick will be to do that without pricing local people out of

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London's new golden quarter. the London Borough of Kensington

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people itching for the gaiplts to be over and out of the way?

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way? I would love them to go on. back to what a tip that area was

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five or six years ago, the transformation has been remarkable.

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our job to carry on another stage of transformation, and prepare it

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have jobs and work. What about affordable housing, what does

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"affordable" mean, you heard the current environment. We do have a

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target across the whole park, of 35% affordable housing, the

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under different types of different definition, some social rented,

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just like council housing, but run by housing associations. You saw

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housing association. Some will be markets. We do want a mixed and

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of money would people need to get People going into social rented

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housing don't necessarily need any social rented housing are normally

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appeal to a different mix of private housing on the park. No-one

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difficulty in this area, in this if you are a shopkeeper. If you

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succeed in this area, and you want to stay and buy a house and have

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area. We want to make sure the people who are successful in Newham,

:45:28.:45:32.

the shopkeepers, the businessmen, choices and opportunities to stay

:45:33.:45:42.
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You raise a general question, of course, under Government policies,

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what are the criteria of affordable, to answer -- in a position to --

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ambition targets for different types of affordable housing and we

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Do you think you will make a dent in the social housing list in

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Newham of 35,000 people? I think we will, and maybe a bit more of a

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dent. This is a London-wide problem, the main reason that housing is so,

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pensive in London, is there is an awful lot of demand, and not

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sufficient supply. We actually need tens and tens of thousands,

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hundreds of thousands of new homes in the capital, over a lengthy

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period, in order to accommodate people affordably, that is the

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reason the prices are so high, if you are in the private sector. We

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are, nonetheless, doing what we can, there are going to be over 10,000

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homes on the Olympic Park, if you include the athletes' village in

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that, there will be jobs available for people as well. Many of those

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