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Julian Assange gets the official protection of Ecuador. To the | 0:00:07 | 0:00:11 | |
consternation of Swedish and Britain. We will not allow will | 0:00:11 | 0:00:15 | |
Assange safe passage out of the UK nor is there any legal basis for us | 0:00:15 | 0:00:19 | |
to do so. We'll debate what is likely to | 0:00:19 | 0:00:23 | |
happen to Julian Assange next. will definitely be appealing. | 0:00:23 | 0:00:28 | |
man has been told he can't be helped to die. In Newsnight we will | 0:00:28 | 0:00:32 | |
hear from his daughter, and from a patient who recovered from a | 0:00:32 | 0:00:36 | |
similar situation. How did a miner strike leave at | 0:00:36 | 0:00:41 | |
least seven people dead? And in Syria, Sue Lloyd Roberts | 0:00:41 | 0:00:46 | |
finds out what happened to the people who were first to protest, | 0:00:46 | 0:00:56 | |
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Almost exactly two years ago today, Julian Assange had his heart set on | 0:00:57 | 0:01:01 | |
Sweden, Sweden was the country for him. Mr Assange applied for a | 0:01:01 | 0:01:07 | |
resident's permit to live and work there and hoped to create a base | 0:01:07 | 0:01:14 | |
for WikiLeaks, in Sweden, because of the country's laws protecting | 0:01:14 | 0:01:20 | |
whistle-blowers. Now he is settling on Ecuador. We witnessing the open | 0:01:20 | 0:01:24 | |
the international diplomatic incident that WikiLeaks used to | 0:01:24 | 0:01:27 | |
cause. Julian Assange once travelled the globe, championing | 0:01:27 | 0:01:30 | |
freedom of information and apparently rewriting the rules of | 0:01:31 | 0:01:34 | |
what could, and couldn't be kept secret. | 0:01:34 | 0:01:38 | |
But now, his world has shrunk to two rooms at the back of the | 0:01:38 | 0:01:42 | |
Ecuadorian embassy in London. But even this refuge may not be safe | 0:01:42 | 0:01:48 | |
for the British Government has made clear, diplomatic immunity might be | 0:01:49 | 0:01:56 | |
revokeed. The unprecedented letter from the UK authorities to the | 0:01:56 | 0:02:01 | |
Ecuadorians, about the possibility of them going into the embassy to | 0:02:02 | 0:02:06 | |
pick him up, that was the big surprise to me. And I'm still | 0:02:06 | 0:02:11 | |
shocked about it because the itch case of that is so massive. | 0:02:11 | 0:02:20 | |
If they wouldn't do it, that would actually, would jeopardise the | 0:02:20 | 0:02:25 | |
concept of diplomacy forever. this morning, with supporters | 0:02:25 | 0:02:32 | |
fearing police were about to storm the embarrassy, the counter culture | 0:02:32 | 0:02:37 | |
arrived in Knightsbridge, ready to oppose the police and support | 0:02:37 | 0:02:42 | |
Assange. The Ecuadorian Government meanwhile bridleed at the | 0:02:42 | 0:02:46 | |
suggestion that British law might be used to newlyfy their | 0:02:46 | 0:02:53 | |
sovereignty, and gave their guess to what he craved. | 0:02:53 | 0:02:56 | |
TRANSLATION: The Ecuadorian Government loyal to the tradition | 0:02:56 | 0:03:02 | |
to protect those who seek refuge with us, and in our diplomatic | 0:03:02 | 0:03:08 | |
mission have decided to grant diplomatic asylum to Mr Assange. | 0:03:08 | 0:03:12 | |
That news calmed the supporters outside, but of course annoyed the | 0:03:12 | 0:03:17 | |
Foreign Office. Stay clear please. Had the British | 0:03:17 | 0:03:21 | |
misplayed it. The Foreign Office played this exactly right. They've | 0:03:21 | 0:03:25 | |
been talking behind the scenes, quiet diplomacy for two months to | 0:03:25 | 0:03:30 | |
get the Ecuadorians to see sense on this. And there does come a moment | 0:03:30 | 0:03:34 | |
when you have to say, these are the options and by the way we do have | 0:03:34 | 0:03:40 | |
the act of Parliament, which gives us the right to raise diplomatic | 0:03:40 | 0:03:45 | |
immunity, lift diplomatic immunity when it is abused. You need to take | 0:03:45 | 0:03:50 | |
account of that oh Ecuadorian Government. To the protesters, this | 0:03:50 | 0:03:54 | |
is about WikiLeaks and American vengeance, but none of the charges | 0:03:54 | 0:03:58 | |
framed against him so far, relate to that. It is important to thunds | 0:03:58 | 0:04:02 | |
is not about Mr Assange's activities at WikiLeaks, or the | 0:04:02 | 0:04:07 | |
attitude of the United States, he is wanted in Sweden, to answer | 0:04:08 | 0:04:12 | |
allegations of serious sexual offences. Since he's skipped bail | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
in this country two months ago, Mr Assange would also face British | 0:04:17 | 0:04:22 | |
charges, if he left the embarrassy, while the United States has yet to | 0:04:22 | 0:04:28 | |
showity hand legally. With neither the UK or Ecuadorian governments | 0:04:28 | 0:04:33 | |
likely to back down, will seems to be every chance of a prolonged | 0:04:33 | 0:04:38 | |
standoff, from high-charging international lawyers might benefit. | 0:04:38 | 0:04:42 | |
Meanwhile, Julian Assange may not be in prison, but he is certainly | 0:04:42 | 0:04:48 | |
confined. So, Mr Assange will have plenty of time to gaze out at the | 0:04:48 | 0:04:52 | |
expensive cars dropping off customers at Harrods, while the | 0:04:52 | 0:04:56 | |
British Government bieds its time. Ecuadorian President has fallen | 0:04:56 | 0:05:00 | |
into a trap of his own making. They have there, in the embassy, the | 0:05:00 | 0:05:06 | |
sitting tenant from hell, who could be there, for another 25-30 years, | 0:05:06 | 0:05:12 | |
who knows. The motto for us now is "just play it cool, be calm, and go | 0:05:12 | 0:05:16 | |
back into behind the scenes talks with the Ecuadorians". | 0:05:16 | 0:05:22 | |
And what of the longer term? The Brad Brad Brad the US soldiers | 0:05:22 | 0:05:26 | |
accused of providing WikiLeaks with its information faces trial in | 0:05:26 | 0:05:36 | |
September. The American authorities, have yet to indict Julian Assange | 0:05:36 | 0:05:44 | |
on any charge. His argument he could face death in America, is a | 0:05:44 | 0:05:47 | |
flawed note. Sweden will not extradite anybody to the US if | 0:05:47 | 0:05:50 | |
there is a fear they will be subject to the death penalty so. | 0:05:50 | 0:05:54 | |
That is not something that is a real risk in his case T won't | 0:05:54 | 0:05:59 | |
happen. What is a greater risk is he will be subject today the same | 0:05:59 | 0:06:06 | |
treatment as Bradley Manning, who is the WikiLeaks defendant held in | 0:06:06 | 0:06:10 | |
unsavoury conditions ever since he was arrested. Ecuador has been | 0:06:10 | 0:06:17 | |
criticised today, by both British and Swedish governments for | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
obstructing the justice in two democracies. US pressure has yet to | 0:06:20 | 0:06:24 | |
begin in earnest, and Julian Assange's supporters, were hardly | 0:06:24 | 0:06:30 | |
opening the champagne tonight. Every person I met that knows how | 0:06:30 | 0:06:35 | |
the US function, say they might not be the quickest, but they don't | 0:06:35 | 0:06:39 | |
forget and don't forgive. The floor space of the embassy is a | 0:06:39 | 0:06:45 | |
equivalent to a ten nas court. It's a small world to be couped up | 0:06:45 | 0:06:50 | |
indefinitely. Supporters think he might escape, but where to? Exdor | 0:06:50 | 0:06:55 | |
remains defiant for now, but who will predict how they'll behave if | 0:06:55 | 0:07:03 | |
America turns up the heat. Vaughan Smith let Julian Assange stay in | 0:07:03 | 0:07:08 | |
his house for year, and Roger Noriega was administer of state, | 0:07:08 | 0:07:12 | |
and Johan Pehrson is Chief Whip to the Swedish Liberal Party, a member | 0:07:12 | 0:07:16 | |
of the Swedish Parliament justice committee. Vaughan Smith is it hard, | 0:07:17 | 0:07:22 | |
having this man as a friend? It is challenging. I end up, trying to | 0:07:22 | 0:07:26 | |
account for things on programmes like this, sometimes. He is very | 0:07:26 | 0:07:34 | |
good company. I had him stay for 13 months. My family from | 0:07:34 | 0:07:38 | |
recomfortable with that. He is engaging and as a journalist, | 0:07:38 | 0:07:41 | |
curious about things and well informed. He stayed with more than | 0:07:42 | 0:07:48 | |
a year, and put up �20,000 of his bail money and then he broke bail, | 0:07:48 | 0:07:54 | |
is he an honest person? He strikes me as honest, one has to see what | 0:07:54 | 0:08:04 | |
he's done is entering sideways to a legal process. To who extent he's | 0:08:04 | 0:08:08 | |
broken bailiff yet to proceed. should have stayed at an address | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
that he gave the police overnight, and he is not doing that any more? | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
They know where he is. And breaking bail would, traditionally leaving | 0:08:16 | 0:08:21 | |
the country or go into hiding. He's not done that. He has a right as | 0:08:21 | 0:08:24 | |
individual to seek political asylum, most people acknowledge we all have | 0:08:24 | 0:08:29 | |
a right to do that, if we're feeling persecuted and he does. The | 0:08:29 | 0:08:34 | |
Ecuadorians, are the only people who have considered this whether he | 0:08:34 | 0:08:38 | |
is actually somebody who is persecuted or not. They have | 0:08:38 | 0:08:43 | |
concluded that he has been. What is the most convincing argument for | 0:08:43 | 0:08:49 | |
him going to Sweden? I know Julian well enough to be convinced he | 0:08:49 | 0:08:53 | |
believes his life or his liberty is threatened by such a thing. It is | 0:08:53 | 0:08:56 | |
not for me to thing that is necessarily the case, I don't know. | 0:08:56 | 0:09:02 | |
But I do know he believes that. And, I think that what you've got to | 0:09:02 | 0:09:06 | |
look at, the Ecuadorians, have gone through processes to resolve this. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
They've invited the Swedes to come and interview there, and press a | 0:09:10 | 0:09:14 | |
precedent for this. It reached the point in a Swedish legal thing that | 0:09:14 | 0:09:17 | |
they are required to interview him, and then choose whether to charge | 0:09:17 | 0:09:23 | |
him. But, they went to Serbia, to interview an alleged murderer, but | 0:09:23 | 0:09:28 | |
haven't done that here. All right, Johan Pehrson why not do that? | 0:09:28 | 0:09:35 | |
it is not for me to supervise the Swedish prosecutors, but I can say | 0:09:35 | 0:09:43 | |
that he meets severe crime, the simple point is it will be easy for | 0:09:44 | 0:09:49 | |
him to go to Sweden to meet our legal system and ask, to have, to | 0:09:49 | 0:09:53 | |
answer these questions from the prosecutors, and then he might be | 0:09:53 | 0:09:58 | |
released or prosecuted, and there could be a trial. But, he's | 0:09:59 | 0:10:02 | |
obstructing this, and in this situation, it is very important to | 0:10:02 | 0:10:08 | |
remember that there are might be witness of a crime here, to women. | 0:10:08 | 0:10:11 | |
This is a man who hasn't been charged with anything, he is | 0:10:11 | 0:10:16 | |
willing to be questioned if you go to him, you're saying that is | 0:10:16 | 0:10:20 | |
impossible? I can't supervise the prosecutors, but I can say, that | 0:10:20 | 0:10:25 | |
the things, how things have turned out now. I mean, of course, the | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
Swedish prosecutors, need to come up with new ideas how they might be | 0:10:29 | 0:10:33 | |
able to question him, because this could be a deadlock for a long time. | 0:10:33 | 0:10:39 | |
He can be siting in this embassy for I don't know how long. Roger | 0:10:39 | 0:10:44 | |
Noriega, do you share this view? Do you understand the view, that this | 0:10:44 | 0:10:51 | |
is a man who feels persecuted? sure I do. But let's see that he's | 0:10:51 | 0:10:57 | |
conspireed to make good his escape here. To, jump bail, in Britain, | 0:10:57 | 0:11:02 | |
and now he should be held accountable under British law and | 0:11:02 | 0:11:05 | |
Swedish law. He conspired with the President who he interviewed in May | 0:11:05 | 0:11:15 | |
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of this year, on behalf of Russia Today and it was at that time | 0:11:18 | 0:11:23 | |
Rafael Correa crushed the media, systematically in his own country, | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
violated the independence of the courts, politiciseed the courts | 0:11:25 | 0:11:30 | |
that do his bidding, so this is a rather strange bed fellow for | 0:11:30 | 0:11:36 | |
Assange to be joining. It says a lot about him. And I hope that | 0:11:36 | 0:11:41 | |
Correa is held for some scrutiny, his premeditated role in this | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
process. You have a long list of complaints about Ecuador. If people | 0:11:46 | 0:11:51 | |
look how Bradley Manning is treated, can you blame Julian Assange | 0:11:51 | 0:11:56 | |
wanting to come to your country? Well, as far as I know, he doesn't | 0:11:56 | 0:12:02 | |
face chargesness the United States. So, frankly, I think he wants to | 0:12:02 | 0:12:06 | |
evade justice in Sweden, for the molestation and rape charges he has | 0:12:06 | 0:12:12 | |
been accused of this there. That's his primary motive in my view. | 0:12:12 | 0:12:16 | |
Johan Pehrson, the critical question about whether he might be | 0:12:16 | 0:12:23 | |
extradited to the United States, is Sweden in a position to say not? | 0:12:23 | 0:12:27 | |
have a law, the European Commission of human rights so we are | 0:12:27 | 0:12:31 | |
prohibited to extradite anyone to a country where he can meet a death | 0:12:31 | 0:12:36 | |
penalty so. I would say, it is a non-question. The important thing | 0:12:36 | 0:12:41 | |
is that Julian Assange should meet these charges, answer the questions, | 0:12:41 | 0:12:47 | |
and then it would not be any question in Sweden any more. It is | 0:12:47 | 0:12:51 | |
still porks mightn't it, there can be a guarantee he won't receive the | 0:12:52 | 0:12:58 | |
death penalty but still extradited to the US snust Sweden has a | 0:12:58 | 0:13:01 | |
independent system and we have a strong record on human rights. The | 0:13:01 | 0:13:05 | |
only thing we can say, independent courts, where he might be tried, if | 0:13:05 | 0:13:10 | |
he is prosecuted, we have not yet reached that level, but he has been | 0:13:10 | 0:13:15 | |
asked to come to us, we have a system and European system, and UK | 0:13:15 | 0:13:24 | |
legal system, and this man, turns now to exdor and I think they have | 0:13:24 | 0:13:30 | |
a - Ecuador and they have a worse record on human rights than other. | 0:13:30 | 0:13:36 | |
I am concerned about Ecuadors record on this, and I'm not here to | 0:13:36 | 0:13:39 | |
defend Ecuador's record on treatment on certain journalists. | 0:13:39 | 0:13:45 | |
As a friend you must be anxious as he chooses his friends? Let stand | 0:13:45 | 0:13:50 | |
back here, reporters without borders, every year does an index | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
on freedom of speech, in that, Britain came 28th. America is | 0:13:55 | 0:14:02 | |
falling and it is 48th. But Ecuador is 14 2nd. But we too, often | 0:14:02 | 0:14:05 | |
present ourselves as only good in the world and the truth isn't the | 0:14:05 | 0:14:15 | |
case. It is invasion for you, liberal democracy for you, torture | 0:14:15 | 0:14:18 | |
for you, and something else for someone else. We immediate to get | 0:14:18 | 0:14:25 | |
used to the idea that perhaps, we have dissidents within us, and | 0:14:25 | 0:14:29 | |
within London someone has been given political asylum. We | 0:14:29 | 0:14:37 | |
shouldn't be too sure. These are serious sexual charges he, sexual | 0:14:37 | 0:14:42 | |
questions he faces? That's unclear. Obviously the Swedish thing is | 0:14:42 | 0:14:47 | |
different. Swedish law on how they define rape is quite different. But, | 0:14:47 | 0:14:52 | |
I wouldn't like to see anybody escape justice. But I believe | 0:14:52 | 0:14:55 | |
Julian Assange is seeking justice, not running from it. | 0:14:56 | 0:15:01 | |
What do you think will happen next? Do you think he's going to have to | 0:15:01 | 0:15:06 | |
spend, time in the embarrassy? There could be a scenario he could | 0:15:06 | 0:15:13 | |
be there for a long time. Is he good at tunneling? I don't think he | 0:15:13 | 0:15:17 | |
can get out without the authorities agreeing to it. We can reflect on | 0:15:17 | 0:15:22 | |
this a little bit and I don't think we have to be so angry and bitter | 0:15:22 | 0:15:26 | |
about this. I think we have to look and see how this plays in a wider | 0:15:26 | 0:15:29 | |
part of the world. You have to remember, Julian Assange, is | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
popular in the rest of the world N Europe and the rest of the world, | 0:15:33 | 0:15:37 | |
less so, because they have a battering in the press. India, | 0:15:37 | 0:15:41 | |
there's 20 front pages on corruption, and I feel we need to | 0:15:41 | 0:15:47 | |
be conscious about the perception in the wider world. Thank you very | 0:15:47 | 0:15:55 | |
much. Tony Nicklinson, tells us his life is dull, miserable, demeaning, | 0:15:55 | 0:16:00 | |
undignified and intolerable. Thanks to a stroke, seven years ago, | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
he's able to communicate that misery, by blinking or by moving | 0:16:03 | 0:16:08 | |
his head in a limited way. So limited is his ability to move, | 0:16:09 | 0:16:12 | |
Tony Nicklinson would be physically unable to end his miserable life | 0:16:12 | 0:16:16 | |
himself. So, he asked the High Court in London to rule that a | 0:16:16 | 0:16:21 | |
doctor could help him die without the fear of prosecution for murder. | 0:16:21 | 0:16:24 | |
The court said it was moved, but only Parliament could make such a | 0:16:24 | 0:16:29 | |
major change in the law. Mr Nicklinson is still able to cry, | 0:16:29 | 0:16:34 | |
and he wept when he heard the judgment. Absolutely ivering has to | 0:16:34 | 0:16:39 | |
be done for me, feeding me, scratching an itch, cleaninging my | 0:16:39 | 0:16:44 | |
nose, moving me, cleaning my teeth, washing and everything I cannot do | 0:16:44 | 0:16:49 | |
it. His case, said the judge was deeply moving A legal and ethical | 0:16:49 | 0:16:54 | |
question at the most difficult kind. But today, Tony Nicklinson lost the | 0:16:54 | 0:17:01 | |
latest round in what is a long, legal battle. Disappointed. You can | 0:17:01 | 0:17:06 | |
see from Tony's reaction, he is heart broken. We always knew it was | 0:17:06 | 0:17:11 | |
a big ask, but, we've always hoped that, you know the judges would see | 0:17:11 | 0:17:14 | |
sense and quite plainly they haven't. | 0:17:14 | 0:17:19 | |
Mr Nicklinson, a 58-year-old father of two, was left almost completely | 0:17:19 | 0:17:23 | |
paralysed after a stroke on a business trip, seven years ago. He | 0:17:23 | 0:17:27 | |
now says the quality of his life is so poor, he wishes he'd never | 0:17:27 | 0:17:31 | |
called for an am brilliance that day. This afternoon, he was asking | 0:17:31 | 0:17:36 | |
the High Court to make a major change to the murder law in England | 0:17:36 | 0:17:41 | |
and Wales. Mr Nicklinson's legal team was trying to use article | 0:17:41 | 0:17:44 | |
eight of the European Convention on Human Rights to argue euthanasia | 0:17:44 | 0:17:47 | |
should be a legally protected right. They wanted a guarantee that a | 0:17:47 | 0:17:52 | |
doctor, here in this country, could end his life without the risk of | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
prosecution. But, the judge today rejected those arguments, and | 0:17:56 | 0:18:03 | |
dismissed the case of a second unnamed sufferer of locked in | 0:18:03 | 0:18:07 | |
syndrome. He said a decision to allow the claims would have far- | 0:18:07 | 0:18:10 | |
reaching consequences, it is not for the court to stkhrieed whether | 0:18:10 | 0:18:14 | |
the law should be changed and what safeguards should be in place. | 0:18:14 | 0:18:17 | |
Under our system of Government, these are matters for Parliament to | 0:18:18 | 0:18:23 | |
decide. That decision was welcomeed, not just by pro-life groups you but | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
disability charities and groups representing the medical profession. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:32 | |
The problem here and reason why there is so much controversy, is | 0:18:32 | 0:18:36 | |
balancing the tragic circumstances of people like Tony Nicklinson | 0:18:36 | 0:18:41 | |
against the vastly greater number of people with, in his case, severe | 0:18:41 | 0:18:45 | |
disability who find themselves, their lives valuable and yet | 0:18:45 | 0:18:49 | |
threatened in the ethos created by our laws. Helping someone to kill | 0:18:49 | 0:18:54 | |
themselves is legal, in a handful of countries. Most famously at the | 0:18:54 | 0:18:59 | |
dig it's a clinic in Zurich, but also, in three US states and three | 0:18:59 | 0:19:06 | |
EU countries, the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. In the UK, | 0:19:06 | 0:19:09 | |
assisted suicide, careies 16 year jail sentence. Whether that death | 0:19:09 | 0:19:14 | |
takes place here or abroad. But the law itself isn't standing still. A | 0:19:14 | 0:19:17 | |
number of legal challenges have forced the authorities to change | 0:19:17 | 0:19:27 | |
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the way they deal with these cases. MS sufferer, Debbie Purdy went to | 0:19:28 | 0:19:34 | |
court in 2008. She won the case, forcing the direct lor of public | 0:19:34 | 0:19:38 | |
prosecution toss issue new guidance. If a family member or friends acts | 0:19:38 | 0:19:43 | |
with compassion to help someone die, then the case should now be dropped. | 0:19:43 | 0:19:48 | |
In the last few moments to two victims of locked in syndrome, have | 0:19:48 | 0:19:52 | |
lost their High Court battles, for the right to end their lives, | 0:19:52 | 0:19:58 | |
when... Three years after her day in court, Debbie Purdy is watching | 0:19:58 | 0:20:05 | |
today's verdict from her bedroom. Her MS has progressed unable to | 0:20:05 | 0:20:12 | |
make her stand, move or write. doesn't want to go to Switzerland, | 0:20:12 | 0:20:17 | |
and he doesn't have the drugs that will be fatal, or set things up to | 0:20:17 | 0:20:22 | |
be able to take them. He needs help and support by somebody who knows | 0:20:22 | 0:20:26 | |
what they're doing. She supports Tony Nicklinson's right to end his | 0:20:26 | 0:20:30 | |
own life on his own terms. And she wants MPs to step in, with a new | 0:20:31 | 0:20:37 | |
law to clarify the situation. What we need is a politicians to | 0:20:37 | 0:20:43 | |
say, not how do we tweak an existing law to be not too bad, but | 0:20:43 | 0:20:51 | |
rather, what do we need in the 21st century, to make sure that somebody | 0:20:51 | 0:20:55 | |
like Tony, doesn't have to suffer unnecessarily. | 0:20:55 | 0:21:00 | |
But, any new law on assisted suicide looks unlikely at the | 0:21:00 | 0:21:04 | |
moment, with all politicians opposed. Instead the Nicklinson | 0:21:04 | 0:21:10 | |
family say they'll take today's verdict to the Court of Appeal. | 0:21:10 | 0:21:18 | |
Lauren, Nicklinson, Tony is your dad, he seems upset, how is sne | 0:21:18 | 0:21:22 | |
He's devastated. Our legal team helped so far, but you can't help | 0:21:22 | 0:21:26 | |
to get your hopes up, and we're all disappointed. We know the judges | 0:21:26 | 0:21:31 | |
had a hard decision to make, but we're just sad they decide today go | 0:21:32 | 0:21:36 | |
against us. We'll appeal, this isn't the end, we believe in what | 0:21:36 | 0:21:39 | |
we're doing. Do you accept what the court was saying, had the court | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
gone your way, it would be a big change in the law, and that's not | 0:21:42 | 0:21:46 | |
the role of judges to do that, it must be Parliament? They say one | 0:21:46 | 0:21:51 | |
thing, we argue the other. Our legal team, argue the opposite and | 0:21:51 | 0:21:55 | |
we choose to follow them and believe what they say. We trust | 0:21:55 | 0:21:59 | |
what they're doing. But, we know it is a really difficult, we've a big | 0:21:59 | 0:22:04 | |
thing what we're doing, and asking a lot. But there has to be some way | 0:22:04 | 0:22:09 | |
to do it. There has to be, we refuse there isn't. What is it like | 0:22:09 | 0:22:13 | |
having Tony as a dad? That's a difficult question. The dad before | 0:22:13 | 0:22:19 | |
all of this, was amazing, and me and my sister talk about dad as two | 0:22:19 | 0:22:21 | |
different people. Whether it is right and wrong I don't know, | 0:22:22 | 0:22:26 | |
really loud and hands on, he was a fantastic dad. Now we haven't got a | 0:22:26 | 0:22:33 | |
relationship with him, because so much of what makes that father/ | 0:22:33 | 0:22:36 | |
daughter lies, is physical dis, it is down to the individual | 0:22:36 | 0:22:43 | |
relationship. What me and dad would enjoy doing together we can't enjoy | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
any more, like rugby, I don't know what he sounds like, I haven't | 0:22:47 | 0:22:51 | |
heard his voice in seven years. What are his ofpgss, you will carry | 0:22:51 | 0:22:55 | |
on with the legal process, but maybe perhaps starving to death? | 0:22:55 | 0:23:00 | |
We're going to appeal and take this as far as we can. If we get to the | 0:23:00 | 0:23:04 | |
stage where we can't take it further, and told no, he is | 0:23:04 | 0:23:08 | |
considering starving himself. Because for him. Could you watch | 0:23:08 | 0:23:11 | |
that happen? It won't be my decision, if that's what he wants, | 0:23:11 | 0:23:16 | |
that's what we'll do t he would rather three months of the physical | 0:23:16 | 0:23:22 | |
anguish and mental anguish of starving hix, rather than living 30 | 0:23:22 | 0:23:27 | |
years locked-in. What about you, your dad wants to die, if it was | 0:23:27 | 0:23:33 | |
down to you, would you rather him alive? I would rather him walking | 0:23:33 | 0:23:38 | |
and talking. Alive and dead? necessarily, no, because it is so | 0:23:38 | 0:23:43 | |
painful, to see someone you love hurt every day and unable to do | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
anything about it. When he dies, it will be more risk, but we will | 0:23:46 | 0:23:51 | |
grieve and be OK, I know we will be. But for dad to face 30 years like | 0:23:51 | 0:23:56 | |
this, that's sun enable. And I think in many ways, it will hurt | 0:23:56 | 0:24:01 | |
less when he dies, rather than see him suffer. Given your concern | 0:24:01 | 0:24:06 | |
about the suffering, have you and the family discussed about helping | 0:24:06 | 0:24:12 | |
him die? It is not an option. No way, dad will let mum risk going to | 0:24:12 | 0:24:17 | |
prison. At all, he would rather do 30 years, and know that his | 0:24:17 | 0:24:21 | |
suffering would end but mum could spend the rest of her life, in | 0:24:21 | 0:24:25 | |
prison,not an option for us. What about you? No. I'm not strong | 0:24:26 | 0:24:31 | |
enough to do that. No way would I let my sister do that. Maybe we're | 0:24:31 | 0:24:38 | |
selfish, I don't know but... Stay with us, thank you very much. Now, | 0:24:39 | 0:24:43 | |
you are in a position, rather than most people, to understand, from a | 0:24:43 | 0:24:49 | |
personal experience what he's going through. You had a stroke, and were | 0:24:49 | 0:24:57 | |
severely incapacitated tell me about that? His a brain stem stroke. | 0:24:57 | 0:25:05 | |
And I was unconscious for several days, and when I came out of it, I | 0:25:05 | 0:25:13 | |
had a problem and because of my background, and my nature, I | 0:25:13 | 0:25:17 | |
started a problem, set an objective, which at that time was to breathe, | 0:25:17 | 0:25:22 | |
and I proceeded to achieve it. Which was to concentrate on the die | 0:25:23 | 0:25:27 | |
fram. The problem was you couldn't move? You couldn't communicate in | 0:25:27 | 0:25:32 | |
any way? No. And even thinking at that time was exhausting. How long | 0:25:32 | 0:25:40 | |
did it take you to get from that state, to the state you're in now? | 0:25:41 | 0:25:48 | |
Well, I've been progressing for years, every little bit all the | 0:25:48 | 0:25:56 | |
time. And I was it hospital for six months and I could walk on sticks | 0:25:56 | 0:26:03 | |
just about, when I left. And I went into rehab unit, for another six | 0:26:03 | 0:26:06 | |
months. And I improved a little bit while I was there. When you see, | 0:26:07 | 0:26:10 | |
Tony Nicklinson and you hear his arguments and you've heard his | 0:26:10 | 0:26:18 | |
daughter speak about his situation, what do you think? I feel I can | 0:26:18 | 0:26:23 | |
understand his feeling about being totally paralysed for seven years, | 0:26:23 | 0:26:28 | |
I should imagine it is terrible. But, as I was saying to his | 0:26:28 | 0:26:32 | |
daughter earlier, I would like to try and help him develop a new | 0:26:33 | 0:26:38 | |
brain path in the same way I did. Because, there is capacity in the | 0:26:38 | 0:26:43 | |
brain, and even though he's had a situation for seven years, there is | 0:26:43 | 0:26:49 | |
still that capacity in the brain. Stay with us, please, I want to | 0:26:49 | 0:26:53 | |
turn to you, Dr Andrew Ferguson from Care Not Killing. How do you | 0:26:53 | 0:26:58 | |
view what's happened to Tony Nicklinson today? Well let me make | 0:26:58 | 0:27:02 | |
the point first, every clinical situation is different. I don't | 0:27:02 | 0:27:07 | |
think we can compare Graham with Tony, I don't think there will be | 0:27:07 | 0:27:12 | |
clinical improvement in Tony's case, I've seen reports and so on. I | 0:27:12 | 0:27:17 | |
don't think today's verdict was a surprise for either side. Tragic | 0:27:17 | 0:27:22 | |
though the situation is for Tony, we need to look at the big picture, | 0:27:22 | 0:27:25 | |
Care Not Killing exists partly to campaign against a change in the | 0:27:25 | 0:27:30 | |
law and encourage resources in careing, and encourage a change in | 0:27:31 | 0:27:34 | |
our attitudes to people with disabilities. All the major | 0:27:34 | 0:27:38 | |
disability rights groups are represented within us, disabled | 0:27:38 | 0:27:44 | |
people at large, see a change in the law as a very real threat. | 0:27:44 | 0:27:49 | |
it not possible, for our finest parliamentarians with the help of | 0:27:49 | 0:27:52 | |
the finest lawyers to draw up a bill that would make Tony | 0:27:52 | 0:27:57 | |
Nicklinson and the people in his situation happy, but also give the | 0:27:57 | 0:28:01 | |
protection you want to people who want to make sure they're not | 0:28:01 | 0:28:04 | |
bumped off against their will? fine parliamentarians in the | 0:28:04 | 0:28:09 | |
Scottish Parliament looked at this extensively in 2010, and in | 0:28:09 | 0:28:14 | |
November on that year, they voted by 85-16 against changing the law. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:18 | |
And that happens when law-makers and those with real responsibility | 0:28:18 | 0:28:23 | |
look at this issue in the round. It is reas well to talk about Holland | 0:28:23 | 0:28:28 | |
but most countries haven't legislated for that, half a dozen | 0:28:28 | 0:28:31 | |
countries have denied euthanasia legislation in the last couple of | 0:28:31 | 0:28:37 | |
years. Let's talk about Tony, are we saying, that he has to carry on | 0:28:37 | 0:28:42 | |
suffering in a way he doesn't want to, he wants to die, for if you | 0:28:42 | 0:28:47 | |
like the greater public good? That's one way of putting it. My | 0:28:47 | 0:28:53 | |
own hope is. You can put it a nicer way, but isn't that where we're at? | 0:28:53 | 0:28:57 | |
We are at that point because we can't just look at Tony alone or | 0:28:57 | 0:29:00 | |
his family, we have to look at other people with his condition. | 0:29:00 | 0:29:07 | |
There's a study from France, 65 patients with lock-ined syndrome, | 0:29:07 | 0:29:12 | |
British Medical Journal, 72% were happy with life and 7% of them | 0:29:13 | 0:29:16 | |
seriously thought about suicide. I'm not blaming Tony when I say | 0:29:16 | 0:29:20 | |
that, he is who he is, but most people come to terms with these | 0:29:20 | 0:29:25 | |
things. What do you say to those arguments? We say each to their own. | 0:29:26 | 0:29:30 | |
Research looks at samples, how long ago was it, were there religious | 0:29:30 | 0:29:36 | |
attitudes as part of that, because if there was, we're an atheist | 0:29:36 | 0:29:42 | |
family and we don't like any state or religious attitude put upon us, | 0:29:42 | 0:29:46 | |
research is research, you can poke holes in most research. Dad wants | 0:29:46 | 0:29:51 | |
to die, again, we are speaking on behalf of him, and not on the | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
behalf of the disabled community. There are others who want this as | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
well, we know that. I really struggle to believe there isn't, in | 0:29:57 | 0:30:02 | |
the country we are in, such an advanced country, there is not | 0:30:02 | 0:30:06 | |
something that can be done to make it possible for dad. I really | 0:30:06 | 0:30:09 | |
struggle. Thank you. Thank you all very much. | 0:30:09 | 0:30:15 | |
In South Africa, police have opened fire on workers who were on strike | 0:30:15 | 0:30:19 | |
from a platinum mine. Video footage from the incident has caused quite | 0:30:19 | 0:30:29 | |
0:30:29 | 0:30:51 | ||
The BBC's Milton Nkosi has been telling me what happened? | 0:30:51 | 0:30:59 | |
miners who belong to a newly formed militant union had been demanding a | 0:30:59 | 0:31:09 | |
pay hike from the mine amendment which is the plaitium mines. The | 0:31:09 | 0:31:12 | |
rival National Union of Mineworkers, which is a long-standing union of | 0:31:13 | 0:31:17 | |
miners here, were separate from them. They are not taking part in | 0:31:17 | 0:31:26 | |
this paid dispute. And these miners were acknowledge mow, were carrying | 0:31:26 | 0:31:31 | |
sticks and machetes and some firearms, and the police were | 0:31:31 | 0:31:36 | |
holding a line between miners and operation area of the mine, and | 0:31:36 | 0:31:41 | |
that's when the shooting began. But this actually began a week before. | 0:31:41 | 0:31:45 | |
Last week, there was violence, ten people were killed including two | 0:31:45 | 0:31:50 | |
policemen. Sthool so what's been reaction to this violence and these | 0:31:50 | 0:31:55 | |
death? The DS, Democratic Alliance, official opposition here have been | 0:31:55 | 0:32:05 | |
0:32:05 | 0:32:06 | ||
saying that this is now needs to be called the mine mine inquiry. And | 0:32:06 | 0:32:09 | |
the national police commissioner has driven through the area and | 0:32:09 | 0:32:14 | |
hopefully will get more details, and a proper investigation as to | 0:32:14 | 0:32:20 | |
what exactly led to this killing, this afternoon. Milton Nkosi thank | 0:32:20 | 0:32:24 | |
you. The narrative in Syria, these days is pretty familiar to us. | 0:32:24 | 0:32:28 | |
We've seen the violence, we heard the conflicting accounts of what's | 0:32:28 | 0:32:33 | |
is going on and watched people flee to safety across the border. What | 0:32:33 | 0:32:37 | |
must all this look like to the people, who 18 months ago were | 0:32:37 | 0:32:40 | |
first to call a demonstration on the streets of Damascus. Sue Lloyd | 0:32:40 | 0:32:47 | |
Roberts has been hearing about three of them. Damascus, January, | 0:32:47 | 0:32:54 | |
2011. A group of young Syrians, posed an invitation on Facebook, to | 0:32:54 | 0:32:59 | |
their friends to have a demonstration outside the Egyptian | 0:32:59 | 0:33:04 | |
embassy. Matar was one of them. Tunisians had been freed, Egyptians | 0:33:05 | 0:33:11 | |
were on their way, we thought it was our turn to be tree too. | 0:33:11 | 0:33:16 | |
Only Syrian-friendly Russian TV recorded the gathering. Which | 0:33:16 | 0:33:20 | |
included Muslims and Christians. They had aeed declared their | 0:33:20 | 0:33:28 | |
support for the demonstrators in Cairo, but then, they went too far. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:33 | |
We sat we chanted and lit candles, we sang the National Anthem and | 0:33:33 | 0:33:39 | |
other similar songs, and then, maybe less than an hour later, one | 0:33:39 | 0:33:46 | |
of them, more enthusiastic parts of the crowds started chanting the | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
wind of change has blown, and that is when the security approached us | 0:33:50 | 0:33:55 | |
and said you have to stop now and you have to leave. | 0:33:55 | 0:33:59 | |
Some were arrested, cameras seized and told criticism of the Syrian | 0:33:59 | 0:34:06 | |
Government would noten tolerated. It was a warning of what was to | 0:34:06 | 0:34:13 | |
come. I've spent the last few weeks tracking those who took part in the | 0:34:13 | 0:34:17 | |
demonstration, post are in Syria, in hiding, filming when they can, | 0:34:17 | 0:34:22 | |
and fighting. Some are dead and others have threed to watch the | 0:34:22 | 0:34:28 | |
drama taking place in their country, from abroad. I started my search in | 0:34:28 | 0:34:35 | |
Germany. Where a charity have given a mayor refuge after he fled from | 0:34:35 | 0:34:43 | |
He now lives in a village near cologne, he explained after the | 0:34:43 | 0:34:49 | |
first demonstration he attended many more, and the Military Police | 0:34:49 | 0:34:54 | |
came looking for him. He went into hiding, and they arrested his | 0:34:54 | 0:35:00 | |
father to get at him. Only when he left the country his father was | 0:35:00 | 0:35:05 | |
released. TRANSLATION: When I came to Europe, | 0:35:05 | 0:35:10 | |
I was amazed by the way people live here. I realised we are living in | 0:35:10 | 0:35:16 | |
hell in Syria. We dream of getting rid of this tyrant, President al- | 0:35:16 | 0:35:24 | |
Assad, most people have not had his father or brother arrested. He is | 0:35:24 | 0:35:29 | |
suffocating us. Exsield Syrians gather in for lorn | 0:35:29 | 0:35:35 | |
groups all over Europe. Here Amer Matar's friends includes Sunnis, | 0:35:35 | 0:35:40 | |
and Kurds. They speak of their ideaism when united they believe | 0:35:40 | 0:35:48 | |
they could use peaceful protest to bring about change. Amer Matar | 0:35:48 | 0:35:54 | |
blames the regime for militaryising their struggle. It was the Houla | 0:35:54 | 0:35:58 | |
massacre in May that convinced him a peaceful, political solution was | 0:35:58 | 0:36:03 | |
no longer possible. More than a hundred people were killed, mainly | 0:36:03 | 0:36:10 | |
women and children. The UN blamed the Syrian army, and the regime's | 0:36:10 | 0:36:20 | |
thugs, the notorious Shab iha. Who is responsible for the deaths | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
recorded. TRANSLATION: You don't need to look | 0:36:22 | 0:36:26 | |
at the pictures of the massacre at Houla, you just need to think of | 0:36:26 | 0:36:30 | |
the numbers of dead, just the numbers make us say, that enough is | 0:36:30 | 0:36:35 | |
enough. We have no option, the only way to get rid of these monsters is | 0:36:35 | 0:36:45 | |
0:36:45 | 0:36:47 | ||
I went to America, to a university in New York state to follow the | 0:36:47 | 0:36:53 | |
story of another of the group who organised that first demonstration. | 0:36:54 | 0:37:02 | |
At the end of last year, a Christian from Damascus, signed up | 0:37:02 | 0:37:08 | |
along with fellow students, Daniel, from New Mexico, LAna and Valerie | 0:37:08 | 0:37:17 | |
from Lebanon to hon his skills as a film maker. He had been making a | 0:37:17 | 0:37:23 | |
documentary back home on how conflict is affecting the children | 0:37:23 | 0:37:27 | |
of Homs. How orphans whose parents had been killed in the uprising | 0:37:27 | 0:37:37 | |
0:37:37 | 0:37:44 | ||
Because of his work, he was arrested several times and fled | 0:37:44 | 0:37:54 | |
0:37:54 | 0:37:55 | ||
abroad, where he was awarded a full bright skol harship in New York. So | 0:37:55 | 0:38:00 | |
Lana Hijazi was asked to study here ala celebrated university all | 0:38:00 | 0:38:05 | |
expenses paid and chance to escape his country, which was on the brink | 0:38:05 | 0:38:10 | |
of civil war. But, his friends explain, he couldn't stay. | 0:38:10 | 0:38:16 | |
Having witnessed what he has witnessed, I think it was just | 0:38:16 | 0:38:20 | |
unsettling to him that people can live life calmly and quiet. Do you | 0:38:20 | 0:38:23 | |
think he was right to go back sthifplt for him it was out of the | 0:38:23 | 0:38:28 | |
question to live his life normally, and wake up, have his coffee and go | 0:38:28 | 0:38:33 | |
to class, while other people are struggling and dying it. This is | 0:38:33 | 0:38:39 | |
how he saw it, it may be wrong or right. I don't think it is guilt | 0:38:39 | 0:38:44 | |
but love. I have the same situation in my country, in a different way. | 0:38:44 | 0:38:48 | |
We always say the world is watching what is happening and not doing | 0:38:48 | 0:38:52 | |
anything. So we didn't want to be part of the world, who is watching | 0:38:52 | 0:39:01 | |
and not doing anything. He went back to Homs to make | 0:39:01 | 0:39:06 | |
another film. Describing the reality of living in a city | 0:39:06 | 0:39:16 | |
0:39:16 | 0:39:31 | ||
bombarded by heavy weapons now for With snipers on the rooftops, he | 0:39:31 | 0:39:36 | |
shows how hard it is for people to get just from one side of a street | 0:39:36 | 0:39:44 | |
to the other. It is him, we can see him, and hear him breathing. I can | 0:39:44 | 0:39:53 | |
imagine the fear he was feeling. did make it to the other side. But | 0:39:53 | 0:39:58 | |
was later killed by a Siran Government army on the house he was | 0:39:58 | 0:40:08 | |
0:40:08 | 0:40:15 | ||
sheltering in. He was 28. - Syrian. Those of his friends still in the | 0:40:15 | 0:40:19 | |
country, came together outside his local church in Damascus to mourn | 0:40:20 | 0:40:26 | |
the death of a young film maker. ? The priest tried to hold a | 0:40:26 | 0:40:30 | |
service for him in the church, but the authorities refused. | 0:40:30 | 0:40:35 | |
In his funeral the ones who prayed from him are from different | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
religions, it doesn't matter if you pray in a mosque or church for him. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:44 | |
It was so touching to see Syria this way, because this is why | 0:40:44 | 0:40:48 | |
they're dying, a better life, not a country shredded into parts and | 0:40:48 | 0:40:53 | |
religions. But it was sad because he deserves more than this, in his | 0:40:53 | 0:41:03 | |
0:41:03 | 0:41:07 | ||
death and funeral and he couldn't The third of our pioneer | 0:41:07 | 0:41:16 | |
demonstrators still lives in Syria. Mia travelled from Damascus to | 0:41:16 | 0:41:23 | |
across the border this Lebanon. We met in a tourist site which is now | 0:41:23 | 0:41:29 | |
deserted, and we hoped without the Syrian spies who are found this | 0:41:29 | 0:41:34 | |
more crowded areas. Thinking back to that first demonstration, she | 0:41:35 | 0:41:40 | |
can't believe how quickly her country disintergrated? We were | 0:41:40 | 0:41:45 | |
hoping for something similar to the way the Egyptian his organised | 0:41:45 | 0:41:48 | |
their revolution. There would be a civil movement, similar to that | 0:41:48 | 0:41:54 | |
that took place in Egypt and we would be able to organise on the | 0:41:54 | 0:42:00 | |
long-run, something similar. But we were thinking in terms of few years, | 0:42:00 | 0:42:04 | |
the more optimistic people were thinking a few months, no-one | 0:42:04 | 0:42:09 | |
thought it was a few weeks time. We were overwhelmed wit violent | 0:42:09 | 0:42:14 | |
reaction of the regime. She doesn't show her face and uses a false name. | 0:42:14 | 0:42:21 | |
Because she too is a film maker, trying to document the human | 0:42:21 | 0:42:30 | |
tragedy. Where is your father, she asks this boy is this In prison, | 0:42:30 | 0:42:38 | |
why? I don't know, he says. Mia had been arrested like all those who | 0:42:38 | 0:42:44 | |
organised the first demonstration. I think almost all of us have been | 0:42:45 | 0:42:54 | |
arrested at some point and released. Including the other girls, if not | 0:42:54 | 0:43:01 | |
once, then several tiles. You never know when you need to flee. You're | 0:43:01 | 0:43:05 | |
always ready, your papers are ready, and you expect that one day or the | 0:43:05 | 0:43:10 | |
other the phone call will come or knock on the door will come and | 0:43:10 | 0:43:20 | |
you'll have to flee. Now she seeing the fighting at home, the Army are | 0:43:20 | 0:43:28 | |
attacking the suburbs of Damascus. Too many helicopters going around, | 0:43:28 | 0:43:30 | |
random shots, snipers over buildings, shooting everything that | 0:43:30 | 0:43:35 | |
moved. I zpt notice when the shot came in, because the window was | 0:43:35 | 0:43:40 | |
open, so there was no broken glass, and there was so much random | 0:43:40 | 0:43:45 | |
shooting and bombing, the sounds were insane, coy not tell that it | 0:43:45 | 0:43:49 | |
was in my bedroom. I woke up the next morning and realised there was | 0:43:50 | 0:43:59 | |
a hole in the wall above my bed. After our interview, Mia returned | 0:43:59 | 0:44:04 | |
to Damascus to work, but with the fear of arrest or being killed. | 0:44:04 | 0:44:09 | |
Before she left I asked her what she would wish for her country? | 0:44:09 | 0:44:13 | |
would like to wake up tomorrow and not find a sing of one of them. | 0:44:13 | 0:44:20 | |
That - single one of them, that would be perfect. Back at the | 0:44:20 | 0:44:27 | |
university, they're planning a memorial for next month. Meanwhile | 0:44:27 | 0:44:32 | |
they watch events in Syria, in despair. What is happening is | 0:44:32 | 0:44:37 | |
people crushed silently, without anybody being able to do anything | 0:44:37 | 0:44:45 | |
for them h And Amer? He says he's going back. | 0:44:45 | 0:44:49 | |
TRANSLATION: I am definitely ready to die and my friends and many of | 0:44:49 | 0:44:57 | |
the Syrian people are prepared to risk death just to see Saaad to go. | 0:44:57 | 0:45:04 | |
I am definitely ready to die for this. Bf we go the publishers of | 0:45:04 | 0:45:09 | |
The Dandy, confirmed today its days in print are numbered. It has an | 0:45:09 | 0:45:12 | |
on-line presence but the final edition will be in December. Let's | 0:45:12 | 0:45:17 | |
have a look at the final edition, and desperate Dan is on the front | 0:45:17 | 0:45:20 | |
page enjoying a holiday, though in the strip itself, his head is eaten | 0:45:20 | 0:45:29 | |
bay shark. On the front. A chance bay shark. On the front. A chance | 0:45:29 | 0:45:35 | |
to win a ride and bouncey castle.. Now to the newspapers. Guardian | 0:45:35 | 0:45:39 | |
goes with Julian Assange story, various people on the front | 0:45:39 | 0:45:46 | |
claiming to be Julian Assange. The Times, also has the Assange story | 0:45:46 | 0:45:54 | |
and those A-level results, Tom Daily doing well. In the Telegraph, | 0:45:54 | 0:46:00 | |
no picture of young women jumping up and down because of the A-level | 0:46:00 | 0:46:08 | |
results but Tom Daly. Gove overall advice from his independent experts | 0:46:08 | 0:46:14 | |
to force through the sale of the school playing fields. And the | 0:46:14 | 0:46:19 | |
Independent, well its front page is one of our stories tonight, the | 0:46:19 | 0:46:24 | |
headline "a fate worse than death" moment Tony Nicklinson heard that | 0:46:24 | 0:46:32 |