11/01/2013 Newsnight


11/01/2013

Presented by Emily Maitlis. How did Jimmy Savile abuse so many for so long? Will Britain have a referendum on EU membership? Plus a tribute to Thunderbirds creator Gerry Anderson.


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Honoured bit Queen, the Pope, the Royal Marines, not to mention the

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BBC, the paedophile who duped a nation. For over 50 years. How did

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Jimmy Savile abuse so many victims. Somebody during that time, maybe

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dozens, during that time, could have stopped him. And nobody did.

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He abused a dying child, and a boy as young as eight. He used hospital

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rooms, studios and schools, the last recorded offence three years

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ago. How did the justice system fail so badly, we ask a former

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Director of Public Prosecutions and a former victim. George Osborne's

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ultimatum to the EU. Are the Tories ready to commit to a referendum on

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Europe? The diplomatic row over whether

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Britain is trying to cherrypick its terms for EU membership is heating

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up and turning personal. The retired stars of International

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Rescue gather to pay tribute to the creator of Thunderbirds. Hello,

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hello, hello, I did the voice of Parker, a long time ago! Hello,

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good evening. He died peacefully in his sleep, unrepentant, and

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uncaught. Today he finally claimed his place by sheer scale, as

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Britain's most prolific sex offender. Jimmy Savile's depravity

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reached those as young as eight, and those close to dying. He

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operated as a paedophile for over 50 years, and hid his actions

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through sheer visibility in the sheen of celebrity. Today's reports

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chart 240 allegations, some as recently as three years ago,

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against a man, long suspected, but never charged. As the Director of

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Public Prosecutions pointed the finger at police and investigators,

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the Crown Prosecution Service apologised, and admitted that

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Savile could have been convicted if his victims had been treated

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differently. Tonight we ask what failings allowed him to get away

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with deceit on an unprecedented level.

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Jimmy Savile was a prolific, predatory sex offender, who abused

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children on an unprecedented scale. According to the police and the

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NSPCC. 450 people came forward, giving information about 214

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offences. 126 were indecent acts, and 34 victims were raped. The

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abuse spanned six decades. Most of the victims were teenage girls, but

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40 offences were committed against boys. The youngest victim was just

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eight at the time. The oldest victim was 47. Jimmy Savile

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attacked children across the country. On BBC promise, in schools,

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hospitals even a hospice. It's clear that their testimony, when

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taken together, presents a compelling case of a predatory sex

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offender, across the whole of the UK. It could be said he groomed a

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nation. He was hiding in plain sight, and yet none of us were able

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to do anything about it. Caroline Moore was at Stoke Mandeville in

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1971, she had an operation on her spine. She said Savile abused her

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there. She has been shocked to learn how many others he had

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assaulted. I'm so angry and so sad, but it is for the children, for the

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vulnerable adults who could have been quite childlike, and I'm angry,

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I'm sad, I'm terribly frustrated. Not one person stood up and tried

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to stop him. He could have been stopped, there was so many, it was

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so many years that he was doing what he was doing, that somebody,

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during that time, maybe dozens, during that time, could have

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stopped him. Nobody did. Relatively few victims, abused by Savile, made

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formal reports to the police. In the 1980s, a woman reported that

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she had been assaulted in Savile's camper van, in a BBC car park. The

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police file couldn't be found, the investigating officer has died. In

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2003, a woman who had been on Top Of The Pops in 1973 told police

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Savile had touched her inappropriately, she didn't want to

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proceed, unless other victims came forward, she said. In 2008, during

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the investigation into the Haut de la Garenne children's home in

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jersey, inquiries were made about Jimmy Savile, he denied ever having

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visited the home. The most significant opportunities missed

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included abuse at Duncroft Approved School, in 2007 Surrey Police began

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investigating two alleged offences there. They also found a victim who

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said she had been assaulted at Stoke Mandeville Hospital, where

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Savile was a volunteer. Surrey Police operated with Sussex Police,

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who were investigating an allegation that Savile had

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assaulted a woman in 1970. The Crown Prosecution Service said none

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of these four cases were prosecuted, because victims were reluctant to

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come to court. However, its own report, published today, found that

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a prosecution might have been brought. It said police and

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prosecutors treated victims, and the accounts they gave, with a

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degree of caution, which was neither justified nor required.

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Referring to a witness, the principal legal adviser to the CPS

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wrote. That it was difficult not to conclude that the officers had,

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even if unintentionally, dissuaded her from pursuing her allegation.

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Each victim was nervous of being the only witness against Savile,

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but the police did not tell any of them there were others. Today's CPS

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report found there was no justification for that. The CPS

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lawyer was at fault too, according to the police notes. He did not

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feel there was a case to proceed. The Director of Public Prosecutions

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has said this should be a watershed moment. That the approach of police

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and prosecutors to credibility and sexual assault cases has to change.

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That more support should be given to complainants, and that a point

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panel of the police and CPS should be set up to look again at claims

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of sexual assault made in the past. Stod's report says Jimmy Savile

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abused -- today's report says Jimmy Savile abused victims at 13

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hospitals and one hospice. At Leeds General Hospital, where he

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volunteered as a porter, victims reported assaults over three

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decades. At Stoke Mandeville, over 23 years. These two hospitals,

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together with Broadmoor, have begun investigations, looking at the role

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Jimmy Savile had. At whether his behaviour was reported, and whether

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hospital policy was followed. The BBC has commissioned a review,

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chaired by Dame Janet Smith. It's investigating the extent to which

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staff were, or ought to have been aware of unlawful, and/or

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inappropriate conduct by Jimmy Savile. That is according to its

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terms of reference. That phrase is absent from the terms of reference

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of the NHS inquiries. Lawyers for Savile's victims say it should be

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there. In a civil sense, we would need to show, or one element of

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what we would need to show is whether or not the institution knew

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or ought to have known, clearly if the inquiry, which involves

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numerous interviews and investigations, reaches that

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conclusion, it will certainly help within the civil context. I think

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that what we also need to appreciate very much so, is it's

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what the patients, what the victims, sorry, need, that is the

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reassurance that these inquiries will lead to conclusions which will

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ensure this never happens again. The Health Secretary says the terms

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of reference are appropriate. will do the work that's necessary,

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I know every NHS institution will do absolutely everything that it

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takes, because we want to be able to reassure people using the NHS

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today. We want to know that we have the right procedures in place. A

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lot has changed. We have CRB checks now, we have local safeguarding

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children boards as well. We need to be absolutely sure that this kind

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of thing can't happen again. And I want to make sure the NHS does

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everything possible to do that. an approved school, Duncroft was

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direct low administered by the hoves. Lawyers say there should be

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a full investigation here too, none has been announced.

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Where do we start, what went wrong, could it happen again. With us are

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Ken MacDonald, the Director of Public Prosecutions until 2008,

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Lisa Harker from the NSPCC, co- author of the report. And a lawyer

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who represents more than 50 of Savile's victims. Kim, just to

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start but for a second. We heard from one victim there, Caroline

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Moore, the anger and frustration in her voice. The scale is incredibly

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hard to believe. What does this mean for victims? You are right.

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The solicitors where I work, we have a long history of representing

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victims of sexual abuse. But we have never come across anything of

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this scale of the we are literally being contacted -- of this scale.

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We are literally being contacted every week by more victims. We are

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out across the country, and even abroad, interviewing these victim.

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There is people interviewing them as we speak now. And when you hear

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about the number, and when they hear about the numbers, does it

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make them feel relieved, if you like, that there are others in the

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same position, or do you just ask how, how it was possible that this

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was missed for 50 years? I think there is a big mixture, it is

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important not to lump all the victims together. That people feel

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very, very differently, there is that mixture of relief that they

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are not the only one. That is tinged with guilt, which they

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shouldn't feel, but a lot of victims of sexual abuse do feel

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guilty and feel that if they had spoken out, maybe they could have

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stopped others being abused. And they shouldn't feel guilty for that.

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But there does need to be real questions asked as to why others

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didn't stop this offending. We had an apology from the Crown

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Prosecution Service today, a serious miss for them? Yes, the

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real gravity of this is that this was the one opportunity, one real

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opportunity that we had, I think, to prosecute this man. In fact,

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reading the CPS report today, it is clear that if the victims, whose

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cases were being looked at at that time, had been properly encouraged

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to come to court and had come to court, there wouldn't just have

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been a case against Jimmy Savile, there would have been a strong case

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against him. I think a jury would have been persuaded by the fact

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that three women, quite independently, many years later,

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had come out with essentially the same sort of story about this man.

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I think...Why Wouldn't they, they were actively discouraged, it seems

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like? It sounds from the report, that if there was active

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discouragement, it was inadvertant. The problem is, they were told,

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none of them were told that I in of the others existed, that any of the

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others complained. They were told that corroboration would be needed

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for their individual stories. They weren't told that they could be

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offered anonymity if they went to court. And the police failed to

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consider, and it seems the prosecutor failed to consider, the

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fact that each of these case, because they would have been tried

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together, would have supported the other. They didn't let them know

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about each other? No. I think the reason for that is, that in a

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previous case, when the police were investigating offences in a

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children's home, they had been criticised for broadcasting the

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fact that the offences had taken place, and then sending letters to

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everyone who had been at the home over a 20-year period. They were

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accused of fishing for complaints. Do you think they feared a sort of

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hysteria? They may have had some fear they would face criticism

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again. It may have been appropriate at the beginning of their inquiries

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not to share the knowledge with the women. But at the time when they

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were thinking about bringing a case to court, they should have clearly

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told these victims that they weren't alone, that other people

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were making the same allegation, and if they went to court together,

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there was a strong prospect there would be a conviction and this man

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would be sent to prison. For some of this time this was on your watch,

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do you agree with the police and KierStarmer that it was the

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sensitivity in the approach over the time. Things have improved.

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last attack was 2009? The number of sex cases brought to court has

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improved dramatically in ten or 12 years. This is a very, very bad

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case, and it is a recent case. The failings which are apparent in this

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case should never have happened as recently as that. I think, it is

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perfectly plain, that the approach that was taken to these victim, by

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the prosecuting lawyer, was insufficiently sympathetic, there

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was an instinctive feeling that they were, perhaps, isolated, that

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it was a long time ago, that the assaults didn't go as far as rape.

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All of these sorts of inappropriate considerations. We have had an

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apology, which many victims will say isn't enough? It is clearly not

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enough. What the victims want in case like this is justice. They

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want to seat man who has abused them put on trial and sent to

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prison. Jimmy Savile would have been sent to prison for a long time.

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He was in a position of trust, these were vulnerable women, it was

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a persistent course of conduct, he would have got a long prison

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sentence if he had been prosecuted and convicted. A lot of people said

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early on it was a sort of 70s thing, it was a cultural thing, we know

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now this was happening in 2006, it was happening in 2009. And the

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truth is, that people would still be cautious, wouldn't they? Of

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prosecuting a much-loved celebrity of the same kind of allegations

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raised now? The concern about the undue caution that we have seen

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from the police applies to society more widely. There is, clearly, a

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concern exposed by this case, about people coming forward to report

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concerns about abuse of children and others. What we have seen since

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the publicity around the case, is a dramatic increase in the number of

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people coming forward. Not only to talk about Jimmy Savile, and others,

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related to that case. But also to report concerns about child abuse

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more widely. What do the actual institutions have to do now?

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Because, you know, we are at the very beginning of this, the BBC has

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launched its own investigation, the NHS hospitals and schools were told

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on notice, but this all comes back to the failings of the state,

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right? I think it is beyond, it starts with a question for society

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at large about whether we are prepared to take action when we

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have concerns about children, and whether we are prepared to listen

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when children report concerns. Clearly the organisations involved

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need to look at what happens within their own institutions, but it goes

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wider than that. Kim Harrison, when you hear it is a question for

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society at large, I'm wondering what your victims and others do

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with a statement like that? What do they want to get now? They want

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justice. They want to be believed, what happened to them they want

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recognised. They want justice for themselves, they want to make sure

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that nothing like this is ever allowed to happen again. We do need

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to get to the bottom of exactly how this was allowed to happen. The

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report today is a start, but it is not the end of the process, we

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really need to get to the bottom as to how he was allowed to get away

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with this for so long. Who knew and what institution, did anyone know?

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Did anyone try to stop him? If not, why not? There are so many

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questions still to be answered. that with an aim to getting

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compensation from this, or civil prosecutions? When you talk to

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victims, what do they ultimately want to get from it? Obviously one

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of the main regrets is that there was a chance to prosecute Savile

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whilst he was still alive, and that was missed. Had that gone ahead,

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then other victims could have come forward at that stage. There would

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have been potentially that justice there. We are obviously looking

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into the difference of the legal avenues that the victims can pursue,

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but you know, a big opportunity has been missed there. There is an

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opportunity for civil compensation, but this isn't just about civil

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compensation, this is about justice. How ashamed, Ken MacDonald, do you

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think we should be, that he died before any of this came to light?

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think a lot of the institution, care homes, our national

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institutions, the police, and prosecutor, they will be thinking

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very hard about themselves, and so they should be. Will it be a bill

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for tax-payers, should this be where the victims go to be

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compensated? Victims are entitled to compensation from some of these

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organisations which owed them a duty of care, and failed to give

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them that care. As a result of that failure they suffered sexual abuse.

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I'm not a civil lawyer, but I think many of these victims will have a

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strong case for civil compensation against some of the institutions,

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including the broadcaster. Thank you all very much.

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If the Chancellor told the European Union it had to change for Britain

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to stay, would he hear that as an ultimatum. George Osborne has made

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clear he wants Britain to stay on the inside of the EU, but with

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conditions. In an interview with the German

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newspaper, Die Weld, published today, the Chancellor was asked,

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quite starkly, will Britain be in His answer.

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After interventions this week from the US, Austrian and Dutch

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Governments, and ahead of a major speech on Europe by David Cameron,

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where do we now stand. Our diplomatic editor is just back from

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Berlin. What do you read into those comments from George Osborne, first

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of all? It is a significant statement for a British cabinet

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minister to make. Making that conditionality about change in the

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EU, making it the price, if you like, of continued membership. A

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rallying cry for many Conservative backbenchers, and that broader

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section of the British public that we could characterise as euro-

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sceptic. On the other hand, how significant does change in Mr

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Osborne's terms really have to be. He was in Berlin this week, making

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all sorts of positive statements about Europe and its future

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direction as well. What many in the Government had been hoping is they

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could keep this on the one hand and the other-type policy going for

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some time, some might say pretty close to the next election, until

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they defined exactly what Britain wanted in terms of change. The

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problem is, increasingly there are signs that the rest of Europe is

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getting cross about this, and wants Britain to sexually say what it

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wants, and stop, if you like, as some would say, holding them to

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randsom. We have had a lot of these sort of tentative interventions,

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haven't we? What kind of response from members, I guess you would

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call it, the Europe club? Well, you have already pensions those two

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leaders. The Austrian Prime Minister in an interview, that was

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published today, he has been talking about this on the one hand,

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on the other policy quite explicitly, saying we hear one

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thing in the European Council, and another thing when Mr Cameron goes

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home. He added that they all talk about it in the European Council.

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Clearly they are implying a dual policy they don't like. We have had

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the head of the German parliamentary European committee

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using the word "blackmail" about what Britain is engaged with.

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Britain has tried, we think there has been some briefings suggesting,

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no there are others who share the view, the Dutch Prime Minister

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himself, there is a speech coming up, doesn't disagree with us, about

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perhaps taking some powers back. We had the Dutch Prime Minister's

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spokesman saying, we don't know anything about what Mr Cameron

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might say, and we don't agree with opt-outs, at this particular time.

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It is clear that a lot of people in Europe want the British to, if you

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like, put up or shut up. Is there any actual support for the UK

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position as we understand it? well, at the popular level you

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could say there is quite a bit. Let's face it, the party that went

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into last year's French presidential elections with an

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explicitly anti-euro platform, the National Front, actually did rather

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well, in the Dutch elections, in the latter part of last year, there

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were quite a lot of euro-sceptic messages. Both of those countries

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voted no to the European constitution several years ago in

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popular referenda. You could argue that on the popular level there is

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sim thee. But the type of ruling class interest, -- sympathy, but

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the type of ruling class interest, politicians, business leaders,

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often get in the way of that, and insist on a "politics as normal"

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type approach in Europe, in which basic membership is not challenged.

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It will be very hard for the British Government to breakthrough

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into that political class, and business class, and to convince

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them that doing this, and raising these kinds of issues is not

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undermining or destablising the EU, at a time when most of its members

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want to concentrate on economic recovery.

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Here's where surely the only -- his was surely the only coffin in

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history to arrive with flowers of thunder bird 2. The creator, Gerry

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Anderson, who died last month, was remembered from a 300-strong

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congregation and the actors who worked with him. Hailed for his

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vision, the film maker, diagnosed with Alzheimer's two years ago, was

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hailed off with his puppets, a march, and Lady Penolope's pink

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Rolls-Royce. For anyone of a sup certain age, me

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included, the name -- of a certain age, me included, the name Gerry

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Anderson on the credits means guaranteed excitement. He changed

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children's TV by, for the first time, not making TV for children,

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instead, he just made quality shows that children could enjoy without

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being talked down to. The episodes were made meticulously,

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huge attention to detail. Of course, it was a one-off, there was no

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other show in the world like it. pink Rolls-Royce gave a hint as to

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whose funeral it was in Reading today. Gerry Anderson's stars could

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not attend, without someone to work their strings. Many of their voices,

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though, made it. Not that many people may recognise your face, if

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you say something they might recognise who you are? "yes, they

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might recognise that I did the voice of Parker, a long time ago".

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I was the angels voices in Captain Scarlet. All of the angels? I did

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three of them. Would you rather live on Tracey Island? I would.

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weather is not bad there? weather is fabulous. I was lucky

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enough to meet Gerry Anderson about 18 months before he died. He had

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been diagnosed with Alzheimer's a year previously. This was one of

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his last interviews. He told me that advice he had got early in his

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career still rang true. It's very simple, never second guess your

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audience. You do what you want to do, and if you find that the

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audience like what you want to do, you will be famous, if they don't

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like what you want to do, open a greengrocer shop.

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But early on, he could only get commissions working in a genre he

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couldn't stand. Some people liked the puppets, and watching puppets,

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I hated puppets, and hated working with them. So, he made it his own,

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doing it better than anyone else. Always working round the puppets'

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limitation, they can't walk convincingly, well, however bikes

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and conveyor-belts then. I remember one -- hover bikes, and conveyor-

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belts. I remember one moments, when I was saying "wait, wait, captain

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scarlet" starting crying, and then I got the button, puppets don't

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cry! He got so many productions here into the American market, they

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wouldn't allow them before he cracked it with Thunderbirds. They

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were watching it, they had a specialised showing, I don't know

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where it was. They had the head of NBC saying we have to have it, it

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is a killer. His most creative period coincided with the space

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race. He, in common with his young audience, was obsessed with rockets

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and astronauts. On one trip to New York, he remembers lecturing a

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stranger on the mechanics of space travel. So I told him how the

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astronaut escape system worked. He was very interested. You know, the

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speed you have to go to break-away from earth's gravity, all these

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sorts of facts that I knew, he listened. It was quite obvious he

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was very interested. He was doing the occasional "really"! And "I

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didn't know that"! Having talked myself dry, we got up, we shook

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hands and he gave me his card. And I gave him, I took mine and gave

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him mine. And I turned his card over and it read Captain James

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Lovell! Well I nearly fell through the floor. It was the biggest put-

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down, not only I have ever had in my life. It was the biggest put-

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down anyone could have in their life. I was so take Anne back, I

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said, you bastard! In Gerry Anderson's shows, technology

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brought salvation, the prief of our better angels. It is further

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fueristic and optistic, -- futuristic and optimistic, it shows

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us a better mankind? Good was always supreme, we always won in

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the end. But he became disappointed by how the full-sized world failed

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to measure up. The only thing that hasn't changed and hasn't advanced

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are people. That, I think, is tragic. Because there have been so

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many opportunities opened up, what have we done? We have started for

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whatever reason one war and another war, and I often think to myself,

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in a way, us human beings deserve what we get. He was a massive

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influence on tell vision, and children's television, and I think

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the greatest thing about all his work is that it was entertaining.

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There was no gratuitous violence, there is so much violence around

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these days. He will be remembered as long as television is remembered.

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Review is up next. Kirsty is in Glasgow. What have you got for us?

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Tonight I'm joined by John Mullan, David Hayman and Anne McElvoy. We

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plan to sing our way through Review, to see if it does for us what it

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has done for Mister Dillon, for all you Modern Family, how will you

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take to The New Normal this. One with Ellen Barkin as a homophobic

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racist granny. Comedy of another stripe, PG Wodehouse is back with

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In-depth investigation and analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Emily Maitlis. How did Jimmy Savile abuse so many for so long? Will Britain have a referendum on EU membership? Plus a tribute to Thunderbirds creator Gerry Anderson.


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