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The organisation supposed to protect the quality of healthcare | :00:13. | :00:17. | |
in this country admits it made a mistake. | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
Last night its boss statistic in that chair and told us he couldn't | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
say who done it. He's back tonight and saying something different. | :00:25. | :00:29. | |
It's happening here and here and here, children from poorer homes, | :00:29. | :00:34. | |
white children, generally, failing at school without anyone seeming to | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
care very much. If education in inner cities can be improved, why | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
not in a leafy suburb, or sunny seaside. | :00:43. | :00:47. | |
The Carnegie prize winner, Sally Gardner, the headteacher from the | :00:47. | :00:51. | |
TV series, Educating Essex, and leading educationalist discuss. | :00:51. | :00:55. | |
filming myself on one of these on one of these, whilst being filmed | :00:55. | :01:01. | |
by one of these at the same time. That's what I will be talking about, | :01:01. | :01:04. | |
how fatastically annoying people like me are! | :01:04. | :01:08. | |
Whatever Marcus. We have got our own annoying guest to about why | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
people feel this weird compulsion to film everything. | :01:13. | :01:16. | |
Also tonight, they come from across the world to seek asylum in the | :01:16. | :01:21. | |
lucky country, and they end up in camps in another country in the | :01:21. | :01:26. | |
Pacific, what is Australia's policy towards refugees? What we want to | :01:27. | :01:30. | |
do, apparently, is to make ourselves look even less desirable | :01:30. | :01:40. | |
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than the Taliban. Either they had bad legal advice or | :01:46. | :01:52. | |
the Care Quality Commission, supposed to protect us from | :01:52. | :01:55. | |
malpractice and medical incompetence don't know itself. | :01:55. | :02:00. | |
Last night the boss told us he couldn't disclose who had been in | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
on the fatal discovery of suppressing a fatal report. | :02:04. | :02:10. | |
Tonight we will see what they had to say shortly. First new readers | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
start here with our science editor, Watts. | :02:14. | :02:18. | |
Yet we had the CQC's own report, looking into how well they had | :02:18. | :02:23. | |
investigated concerns over the deaths of mothers and babies at the | :02:23. | :02:27. | |
Morecambe Bay Hospital Trust. It was a damning report, which found | :02:27. | :02:34. | |
evidence of cover-up, of failures. The CQC had taken out the names of | :02:34. | :02:39. | |
individuals, not identified people, citing data protection concerns. | :02:39. | :02:42. | |
Then we spoke to the Information Commissioner, he's the man whose | :02:42. | :02:47. | |
job it is to implement the Data Protection Act. He couldn't | :02:47. | :02:51. | |
understand why they were saying that. Now here is how the chief | :02:51. | :02:57. | |
executive of the CQC, David Behan, reacted on last night's programme. | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
You said unambiguously the advice you have been given is wrong, and | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
that you are hiding behind it? are not hiding behind it, I | :03:04. | :03:07. | |
wouldn't have commissioned this report in the first place, we are | :03:07. | :03:11. | |
clear that we need to account for what we did and that's what we will | :03:11. | :03:15. | |
do. You will publish the names tomorrow will you? I will take | :03:15. | :03:20. | |
legal advice tomorrow on publishing the names. | :03:20. | :03:25. | |
The pressure has built, and today the CQC wrote to Jeremy Hunt, the | :03:25. | :03:29. | |
Health Secretary, and said it had reviewed its original legal advice, | :03:29. | :03:32. | |
taken into account what the Information Commissioner had said | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
to us, and decided that the overridinging public interest in | :03:36. | :03:38. | |
transparency and accountability meant they could disclose those | :03:38. | :03:47. | |
names. So how does this move us forward then? Crucially we now know | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
the identities of four people who were at a meeting in March last | :03:51. | :03:55. | |
year at which it is alleged the order was made to delete an | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
internal report that it was very critical of the way that the | :03:58. | :04:02. | |
regulator had behaved. Now in yesterday's report these people | :04:02. | :04:08. | |
were just referred to by letter names. Now we know that Mr E was in | :04:08. | :04:12. | |
fact Cynthia Bower, the former chief executive of the CQC, who | :04:12. | :04:16. | |
left the organisation last year. Today she resigned from the private | :04:16. | :04:21. | |
health lobbying company where she has been since. She has denied any | :04:21. | :04:26. | |
wrongdoing. Mr F was in fact Anna Jefferson, the media manager, who | :04:26. | :04:30. | |
still works at the CQC. She was the one identified in yesterday's | :04:30. | :04:35. | |
report as saying "are you kidding me, this can never be in a public | :04:35. | :04:41. | |
domain or subjected to FoI". She's now on maternity leave and | :04:41. | :04:46. | |
vehemently denies having said that. Today she said the quote was | :04:46. | :04:53. | |
completely untrue and uncoroborated by anybody else and has since been | :04:53. | :04:58. | |
retracted. Third that at meeting, "Mr G", Jill Finney, she has also | :04:58. | :05:02. | |
left. She's the one who is also alleged to have made the order to | :05:02. | :05:08. | |
delete, saying "read my lips", she denies that, today she was sacked | :05:08. | :05:11. | |
by the Internet registry company where she had been working. The | :05:11. | :05:17. | |
last of the four at that meeting was "Mr J", we know that was Louise | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
Dinely, head of regulatory risk and quality at the CQC, still in post | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
who wrote that critical internal report and didn't in fact delete it. | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
Has disclosing these names done anything to improve confidence in | :05:31. | :05:34. | |
the Care Quality Commission, do you think? I think they have a job on | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
their hands. There will be internal rows at the organisation for some | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
time yet. There are calls for the police to look at whether there are | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
grounds for criminal charges against individuals for failing | :05:43. | :05:48. | |
patients. That deleted report is now on their website. But it has | :05:48. | :05:52. | |
been a very bad mis-step by a regulator whose mantra has been the | :05:52. | :05:57. | |
need for openness. Thank you. | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
As mentioned the chief executive of the Care Quality Commission was | :06:01. | :06:04. | |
last night in that very chair saying he would review the legal | :06:04. | :06:07. | |
advice he had been given. Earlier this evening he kindly agreed to | :06:07. | :06:14. | |
come back and see us. Welcome back. Thank you.Have your | :06:14. | :06:18. | |
lawyers now told you there isn't a problem with the Data Protection | :06:18. | :06:22. | |
Act? Well last night we said we would review the advice we were | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
given. I gave a commitment to do that this morning, that is what we | :06:26. | :06:29. | |
have done. I have also spoken to the Information Commissioner today | :06:29. | :06:33. | |
in light of the advice he offered yesterday. What we have done is | :06:33. | :06:37. | |
made a decision in the public interest to publish the names today. | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
So the lawyers have not given you any different advice to the | :06:40. | :06:44. | |
previous advice you have had? when they received the advice in | :06:44. | :06:47. | |
the first instance, they talked about the risk of pub liring | :06:48. | :06:51. | |
people's names. We have reviewed -- publishing people's names. We have | :06:51. | :06:55. | |
reviewed our decision, we have changed that. We probably got it | :06:55. | :06:58. | |
wrong yesterday not putting those names out. You got it wrong | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
according to the Information Commissioner? We have put it right | :07:01. | :07:06. | |
today, we have accepted that. are these lawyers? The lawyers we | :07:06. | :07:10. | |
have consulted are a reputable company, Bevan Britain. What are | :07:11. | :07:15. | |
you paying them? I haven't had the bill yet. They gave you duff | :07:15. | :07:19. | |
advice? They gave us the balance and risk. That is what lawyers do. | :07:19. | :07:22. | |
We need to make a judgment on that, we did make that judgment, I think | :07:22. | :07:26. | |
we got it wrong. We are putting that right today, we said we would | :07:26. | :07:28. | |
review it, we have listened to the Information Commissioner. What we | :07:28. | :07:31. | |
are doing is we are being and transparent and accountable for | :07:32. | :07:36. | |
what we did. That is why we have put the names out. We now discover | :07:36. | :07:40. | |
there were two people at this crucial meeting who still work for | :07:40. | :07:44. | |
you? Are they going to be disciplined? The other thing we | :07:44. | :07:48. | |
have said today is I will take, I will send the report to an | :07:48. | :07:51. | |
employment lawyer and take advice from them about whether there are | :07:51. | :07:56. | |
any risks for them. But...It Is bad idea taking advice from lawyers, it | :07:56. | :08:00. | |
gets you into trouble? If I can come back on the action of the two | :08:00. | :08:05. | |
people. The responsibility for the failure to disclose this report and | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
make a decision to delete it rests with the more senior people. One of | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
the people that was at the meeting was instructed to delete it. She | :08:13. | :08:17. | |
refused to delete it and did the appropriate thing and spoke to her | :08:17. | :08:21. | |
manager. You are not consulting employment lawyers? Whose advice | :08:21. | :08:24. | |
doubtless you will take again, will you? I will listen to those lawyers, | :08:24. | :08:28. | |
and I will make the decision about what should happen to staff. | :08:28. | :08:32. | |
what point did you decide to consult the employment lawyers? | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
have made that decision, we got this report last week, I made that | :08:36. | :08:45. | |
decision today that we knew. Today? You have had a week. We knew, ...I | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
Had less than a week. I knew there would be issues to address about | :08:50. | :08:53. | |
those staff still employed by us, we would have taken action against | :08:53. | :08:57. | |
those. The have they been suspended? No they haven't been | :08:57. | :09:02. | |
suspended. Shouldn't they be?The member of staff who refused to | :09:02. | :09:06. | |
delete the report and told her manager has behaved in an entirely | :09:06. | :09:09. | |
appropriate way, they were not part of the problem. What about the | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
others? The senior people that took the decision and gave the | :09:13. | :09:17. | |
instruction no longer work for CQC. I don't want to be personal about | :09:17. | :09:22. | |
this, but there is a leadership issue here, isn't there? I believe | :09:22. | :09:27. | |
I'm demonstrating leadership, I have had dozens upon dozens of | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
messages from members of staff who believe I'm acting in an | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
appropriate way, and actually creating an open and transparent | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
culture in CQC, and are supportive of what I have been doing. I came | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
on this programme yesterday and accounted, I'm here again to | :09:40. | :09:44. | |
account. I'm part of leading CQC forward, I believe that is | :09:44. | :09:47. | |
leadership and I believe my staff are recognising it as that too. | :09:47. | :09:51. | |
Don't get me wrong, we are pleased to see you of course. You might be | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
coming back tomorrow with some other decision you want to | :09:55. | :10:02. | |
overturn? I hope not. I believe I, my values are important to me, I | :10:02. | :10:06. | |
believe in public service, I believe in values of integrity and | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
openness and honesty. I'm doing my best to demonstrate that in what I | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
find in very difficult circumstances. But I do believe I | :10:13. | :10:16. | |
need to account. I believe that's what I'm doing. It is for others to | :10:16. | :10:20. | |
say whether they have trust in me, but I'm trying to demonstrate the | :10:20. | :10:27. | |
very best values in public sector leadership. | :10:27. | :10:30. | |
There was some rather good news today about what's happening in | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
some of our schools. The latest report from Jeff stead inspectors | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
suggest standards have risen in many British cities, but there is | :10:37. | :10:43. | |
inevitable low a flip side. The places that need serious attention | :10:43. | :10:47. | |
-- Ofsted suggest standards have risen in many British cities. There | :10:47. | :10:51. | |
are place, where the poorer children are allowed to fail, it is | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
suggested the creation of an elite force of teachers to sort the | :10:55. | :11:00. | |
problem. The problem is especially apparent in some seaside towns. We | :11:00. | :11:09. | |
went to Essex. I am Scarlet, I'm 15 and live in | :11:09. | :11:12. | |
Brightlingsea, I'm studying history. I want to be a primary school | :11:12. | :11:15. | |
teacher. I don't know what I would like to be but I would like it to | :11:15. | :11:21. | |
be of some importance. At Colne Community School, it is the | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
ambition of the pupils that strikes you most. It wasn't always so. Five | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
years ago Ofsted called the call "satisfactory", in other words | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
mediocre. The pupils had low expectation for their future. | :11:38. | :11:41. | |
children seemed to have very little aspiration. We are in a community | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
by the sea, we are in a community where there are lots of family | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
businesses and the aspirations of the students were very narrow in | :11:47. | :11:51. | |
that sense. That's really been a large part of our work here is to | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
make the students aware of opportunities outside of | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
Brightlingsea and Essex and England, into the whole global market. | :12:01. | :12:06. | |
school, which serves a community with its fair share of deprivation, | :12:07. | :12:11. | |
has been turned around. Ofsted calls it "outstanding". How did | :12:11. | :12:16. | |
they do it? They put much of their success down to having made | :12:16. | :12:20. | |
dramatic changes to the teaching staff. Did you have to get rid of | :12:20. | :12:25. | |
some bad teachers? I don't think there is such a thing as a bad | :12:25. | :12:29. | |
teacher. I think there are sometimes teachers who don't | :12:29. | :12:32. | |
necessarily fit into an organisation. They may be a weaker | :12:32. | :12:37. | |
teacher. You did have to ask some to go? Some teachers did leave the | :12:37. | :12:42. | |
school. The idea that good teaching can improve the performance of even | :12:42. | :12:48. | |
the poorest pupils was at the heart of Sir Michael Wilshaw's speech. | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
Poverty of Pectation is a greater problem than material -- | :12:52. | :13:00. | |
expectation is a greater problem than material deprivation. It is | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
true that many families find it hard to make ends meet, but the | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
children of poor families with high aspirations do better at school | :13:09. | :13:15. | |
than those whose parents and teachers expect little of them. | :13:15. | :13:18. | |
Today's Ofsted report looked at the location of schools with high | :13:18. | :13:22. | |
numbers of deprived children. It found that the ones serving them | :13:23. | :13:27. | |
best are concentrated heavily in urban areas. The ones serve them | :13:27. | :13:34. | |
least well, included a significant number in coastal communities. | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
Were it not for strong school leadership, Brightlingsea could be | :13:39. | :13:43. | |
one such community. Like many seaside downs it feels cut off. It | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
is not that it is at the end of the -- towns it feels cut off. It is | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
not that it is at the end of the line, all that is left is the | :13:51. | :13:55. | |
railway and the pub. But the success of Brightlingsea's | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
secondary school is an exception rather than the rule. Too many | :13:59. | :14:02. | |
children living along this coastline have been let down by the | :14:02. | :14:05. | |
education system. Many of the schools are performing well below | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
the national average. You need to travel a few miles down the coast | :14:11. | :14:16. | |
to find a village that tops the league table, in poverty, that is. | :14:16. | :14:20. | |
Jaywick is the most deprived place in England. It is a community that | :14:20. | :14:26. | |
feels left behind. I think they are not looked after anywhere near as | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
well as the big cities and town, they deal with that side of it. But | :14:30. | :14:36. | |
the smaller communities are ez left behind. --Are left behind. | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
youngsters don't stand much of a chance here. You try to give your | :14:39. | :14:44. | |
children the best chance you can. Are you worried for them? Yes, I am, | :14:44. | :14:48. | |
definitely. Why?Because if they don't do so well how is their life | :14:48. | :14:52. | |
going to be as they grow up? Are they going to bring their own | :14:52. | :14:58. | |
families up in poverty? Today Ofsted warned that it is | :14:58. | :15:01. | |
neighbourhoods like this one, with mostly white population, that are | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
failing poor children most. In graph shows that with the heavy | :15:07. | :15:10. | |
focus on improving standards in Britain's ethically diverse inner | :15:10. | :15:16. | |
cities, the poorest children from Bangladeshi, Indian, black African, | :15:16. | :15:20. | |
Pakistani and black Caribbean backgrounds have all seen large | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
increases in their GCSE pass rate since 2007. Despite starting from | :15:25. | :15:30. | |
the lowest base five years ago, it is white British children on free | :15:30. | :15:34. | |
school meals who have seen the smallest increase. | :15:34. | :15:39. | |
So why are coastal communities in this part of Essex struggling? | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
are dealing with some of the issues that are falling out of the urban | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
areas and we are picking up quite a few of the pieces at the moment. | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
What do you mean by that? We have a bit of a transient population. You | :15:49. | :15:53. | |
find that schools are picking up youngstersing out of education in | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
inner cities, they have -- youngsters out of education and | :15:57. | :16:02. | |
inner cities, they have family issues, picking up those families | :16:02. | :16:05. | |
with complex issues is the biggest problem. | :16:05. | :16:09. | |
Ofsted has highlighted not just what disadvantaged children can | :16:09. | :16:11. | |
achieve, but where they can be found. | :16:11. | :16:15. | |
With us is Chris Husbands, director of the Institute of Education at | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
the University of London, who was a member of the expert panel that put | :16:18. | :16:25. | |
together the Ofsted report. Vic Goddard, the principal of Passmoor, | :16:25. | :16:33. | |
he's Academy, featured in Educating Essex. And Sally Gardner, labelled | :16:33. | :16:38. | |
"unteachable" at school, but won the Carnegie Medal for her book | :16:38. | :16:43. | |
Maggot Moon. These are unseen children, who are they? If you look | :16:43. | :16:48. | |
at the Ofsted report they said there are two sorts of schools that | :16:48. | :16:51. | |
do well for their children. There are schools that are relatively few | :16:51. | :16:55. | |
poor children in the school, and schools that have very large | :16:55. | :17:01. | |
numbers of children on free cool -- free school meals. Those the | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
schools doing well. There are significant numbers of poor | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
children not doing well. Are you familiar with this phenomenon? | :17:06. | :17:10. | |
think the silent minority is always there. It is always difficult when | :17:10. | :17:13. | |
you have our eye on so many balls and plates spinning. It is | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
difficult to always keep that. Being reminded by Sir Michael today | :17:17. | :17:21. | |
is fine. I think we should be keeping on being reminded of the | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
young people missing out. The transparency on information on | :17:26. | :17:29. | |
schools is so much greater, people can see where we are doing well or | :17:29. | :17:32. | |
not, and if we are supported to change it all the better. What is | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
your feeling of how much this is a consequence of social deprivation | :17:37. | :17:41. | |
and how much it is something else? I think it is a lot to do with | :17:41. | :17:44. | |
social deprivation in these particular areas. I think there are | :17:44. | :17:49. | |
amazing teachers battling with very, very difficult problems that come | :17:49. | :17:54. | |
into these schools. And I sort of feel we should empower teachers | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
rather than put it down. I feel very worried about the negativity. | :17:59. | :18:02. | |
We always seem to start from an area of failure rather than looking | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
at what the success of these places are. And there is a success story | :18:06. | :18:11. | |
in all of this. What's happened in those inner city schools is | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
amazing? The big story of the Ofsted report is we are doing | :18:15. | :18:19. | |
better than we were in 2003, the last report, we are doing much | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
better than we were in 1993. We are doing better because inner cities, | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
predominantly London, but also Birmingham and to some extent man | :18:28. | :18:31. | |
chester, we have learned what we need to do -- man chester, we have | :18:31. | :18:37. | |
learned what we need to do. What Michael is doing now, challenging | :18:37. | :18:45. | |
us, to get what we know out of London to take it to scale. When | :18:45. | :18:49. | |
you look at the figures spent per child, children in parts of inner | :18:49. | :18:53. | |
city London, for example, are getting paid twice as much per head | :18:53. | :18:59. | |
as in some rural areas, twice as much? The London Challenge, a big | :18:59. | :19:02. | |
part of the success of London, London is the only capital city | :19:02. | :19:05. | |
where it is above the national average. That was done on an audit | :19:05. | :19:08. | |
of need, not done with a standard formula, let's giving everyone the | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
same money. London Challenge advisers went in, looked at what | :19:12. | :19:17. | |
wasness he radio, got the resources from central Government and put | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
them in bespoke packages of training to improve the staff there. | :19:21. | :19:24. | |
That was what made the difference, empowering the teachers to meet the | :19:24. | :19:28. | |
challenges they face. And of course, it was funded centrally. Let's look | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
at the question of teachers raised here. This is this idea, of there | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
being a hit squad, that is wrong, it is called of national service of | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
teachers? It is like James Bond going in. Flying in and doing his | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
wonderful thing and then sort of going away again. And then what? So | :19:46. | :19:56. | |
what? I find it an extraordinary idea, ll Orwellian. It is equally | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
concerning to hear "there are no bad teachers". That is a daft thing. | :20:00. | :20:05. | |
It was a silly thing for that man to say. There are bad people, not | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
bad people, but people less good an others in any field? There are | :20:09. | :20:12. | |
people who can be enfranchised to be better, and given the tools to | :20:12. | :20:17. | |
be better, rather than starting from the area of badness. This it | :20:17. | :20:24. | |
immense about testing for failure. What is the idea here? I want to go | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
back half a step. The key problem here is that the teacher labour | :20:28. | :20:33. | |
market is not working. What does that mean? What that means is the | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
way we employ teachers in this country is that each school hires | :20:37. | :20:44. | |
its own teachers. And we are building in to our system an almost | :20:44. | :20:48. | |
mechanism that means that poorer struggling schools are finding it | :20:48. | :20:52. | |
more and more difficult to attract really good teachers. We looked at | :20:52. | :20:59. | |
schools on the east coast, it is very difficult to for schools in | :20:59. | :21:02. | |
isolated rural areas on an open labour market to attract really | :21:02. | :21:08. | |
good teachers. You are nodding? sit here today, a school that has | :21:08. | :21:15. | |
been on telly, done OK, and an Ofsted report that is outstanding. | :21:15. | :21:20. | |
Inspiring I thought. I still sit here without a science and maths | :21:20. | :21:23. | |
teacher, advertising nationally, tweeting it, using every influence | :21:23. | :21:28. | |
I get. I sill sit here because I won't employ poor teachers, I | :21:28. | :21:32. | |
interview, if I don't think they are good enough I won't employ. | :21:32. | :21:37. | |
What is my alternative? Superman coming for two weeks is not going | :21:37. | :21:43. | |
to help. One of my two daughters tweet today say it would be good if | :21:44. | :21:50. | |
we parachuted them in! Given that the teacher labour market isn't | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
working. Can we put together solutions which mean we can move | :21:54. | :21:57. | |
teachers around more stragically. We know we need to put teachers | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
into Harlow and Clacton, what if we took a more strategic way to doing | :22:02. | :22:06. | |
that? I don't think this is a national service strategy. It may | :22:06. | :22:09. | |
be sub-regional, but it is about saying where are the good teachers | :22:09. | :22:12. | |
in Essex, how do we make sure they are better shared around the | :22:12. | :22:19. | |
schools of Essex. You are looking very restive? I just think it is, I | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
think there is so many teachers, I go into lots of schools, and I do a | :22:24. | :22:27. | |
lot of things with young people. I see so many great teachers who are | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
just giving up. They can't take it any more. This tick box education, | :22:31. | :22:35. | |
this new curriculum that keeps changing. All the borders keep | :22:35. | :22:39. | |
changing. So I don't even know what the measurements are any more. I | :22:39. | :22:42. | |
don't think many people are beginning to know that. I can see | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
people are going away from teaching. I think it is so tragically sad | :22:46. | :22:49. | |
that you should have this problem I can well see why teachers don't | :22:49. | :22:57. | |
want to go into it. I spoke to a head of a Clacton school, head of | :22:57. | :23:02. | |
Clacton Coastal Academy. Last years results were high, top 1% of the | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
country for the progress they make, in this town around here, it is | :23:06. | :23:10. | |
about the quality of teaching experience for the children. But | :23:10. | :23:14. | |
there needs to be a systematic change of coastal town, I don't | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
know what your experience is, mine is Skegness in the summer, lots of | :23:17. | :23:21. | |
people, very vibrant, you go back to one of these place now, in the | :23:21. | :23:25. | |
winter, where the people aren't there, the transient population | :23:25. | :23:28. | |
mentioned. You are making an environment case. Are you saying | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
the environment deters teachers from moving? Without a shadow of a | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
doubt. It is about societal change. Teachers don't want to go and work | :23:37. | :23:41. | |
in some places? It is more difficult. It is much more | :23:41. | :23:45. | |
difficult to attract and to retain teachers into isolated rural | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
communities like the ones that we have seen. More difficult than | :23:49. | :23:53. | |
getting a teacher to go into a tough inner city school? Much more | :23:53. | :23:58. | |
difficult. Things have worked incredibly well for London. London | :23:58. | :24:01. | |
schools are vibrant, the very best place in the country to go to | :24:01. | :24:07. | |
school if you are a poor child is a London borough, tower hamlets, | :24:07. | :24:10. | |
Westminster, Camden, extremely successful. There are reasons why | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
young people want to work in London. It is much more difficult, much | :24:14. | :24:20. | |
more difficult to attract people to Clacton, Hastings, Margate. The | :24:20. | :24:24. | |
report is saying if you want to solve that problem you have to take | :24:24. | :24:33. | |
a more strategic approach to solving it. That means doing what | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
they do in France, Singapore, one of the highest performing system, | :24:37. | :24:41. | |
they will move teachers into struggling schools. Teachers have a | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
vested interest in doing what is right for young people, we come | :24:44. | :24:47. | |
with a moral purpose. I work with other schools outside my school to | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
do that. Competition is not the way to raise standards, collaboration | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
Thank you very much all of you. Now did you have a good dinner this | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
evening? Did you take a picture of it? If so, please send it to us. | :24:59. | :25:04. | |
Just a joke, send it to MasterChef. But the habit of taking photos, | :25:04. | :25:08. | |
usually with our phones of anything and everything is everywhere. | :25:08. | :25:12. | |
Instead of enjoying things and engaging them. There is a growing | :25:12. | :25:18. | |
habit of photoglafing them. It is like firsthand events aren't real | :25:19. | :25:22. | |
unless there is a photo, then we can all experience them secondhand. | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
When the Queen opened these offices the other day, you could hardly see | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
her for all the idiots holding up their telephones. What is this | :25:30. | :25:37. | |
about? I know a man who won't know, Steven Smith reports. Can you spot | :25:37. | :25:41. | |
the difference between these two pictures? Here is the Queen | :25:41. | :25:49. | |
visiting the Beeb in 1953. Here she is again from a few weeks ago. | :25:49. | :25:55. | |
Did you get it? The difference between the two pictures is all the | :25:55. | :26:05. | |
:26:05. | :26:10. | ||
pictures. Now taken on smartphones. Zoom in, grab the shot, put it on | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
social media. We might get to see a bit of the world if we are lucky | :26:15. | :26:21. | |
but is anyone actually looking. A lot of us have got these gadgets | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
now, smartphone, it seems that at the least bidding we will whip them | :26:25. | :26:29. | |
out and start recording. But is there a danger that we are | :26:29. | :26:34. | |
missing out on something, we are failing to live in the moment. Not | :26:34. | :26:44. | |
:26:44. | :26:44. | ||
keeping it real? Sorry what was I saying? How things have changed. | :26:44. | :26:49. | |
This was the crowd outside the Vatican saying farewell to Pope | :26:49. | :26:54. | |
John Paul II in 2005. And here they are again greeting Pope Francis | :26:54. | :27:01. | |
this year. My name is Geoff Dyer, I wrote a book about photography, | :27:01. | :27:07. | |
called The On Going Moment. We recreated the modern experience | :27:08. | :27:17. | |
:27:18. | :27:19. | ||
of the saturation shoot in Geoff Dyer's sitting room. | :27:19. | :27:24. | |
The Van Gogh Museum in Amsterdam has just re-opened, now you can | :27:24. | :27:26. | |
take pictures of the Van Gogh paintings, which means that nobody | :27:26. | :27:29. | |
is actually looking at these paintings they have come to see, | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
the paintings they have seen endlessly in reproductions. They | :27:32. | :27:36. | |
are always looking at them through their cameras, or just | :27:36. | :27:44. | |
photographing them without looking. And that seems a bit daft. | :27:44. | :27:48. | |
# It's not the way she smiles. It has been a while since Newsnight | :27:48. | :27:55. | |
got behind a boy band. But we are not frayed to say it, the The | :27:55. | :28:04. | |
Wanted do it for us. They live in the unsleeping eye of social media. | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
We met the band and their fans outside our sister station Radio | :28:09. | :28:18. | |
One. How important is the taking pictures when you come to something | :28:19. | :28:21. | |
like this? Good because it is important because obviously. | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
can keep the memory as well You can prove it! It is putting it on | :28:27. | :28:30. | |
Instagram or Twitter to make everyone else jealous. How would | :28:30. | :28:33. | |
you have felt if you had come this morning and discovered you had left | :28:33. | :28:37. | |
your phone at home? I would have cried. Cried? I find that it is | :28:37. | :28:42. | |
better to just not take pictures, because you are more in the moment. | :28:42. | :28:47. | |
Max and Jay of the Wanted. We are on Newsnight. Happy to be here, | :28:47. | :28:51. | |
Newsnight for the win. I think a lot of the time people are trying | :28:51. | :28:55. | |
to record the moment and essentially watching it on a three- | :28:55. | :28:58. | |
inch screen instead of the concert. How do you feel about that, you | :28:58. | :29:01. | |
have worked long and hard on your music, you want people to live in | :29:01. | :29:05. | |
the moment don't you? Well hopefully they are still enjoying | :29:05. | :29:08. | |
the concert. But it is just, it is not like it was when I was a | :29:08. | :29:12. | |
teenager for sure I don't think. What happened then, those many | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
years ago! People jumped around and were very engaged in the | :29:16. | :29:23. | |
performance. Not Twitter and Facebook, without | :29:23. | :29:27. | |
them we wouldn't be where we are, we started off on Twitter. Hello | :29:27. | :29:31. | |
I'm Marcus Brigstocke, mostly I'm a comedian, today I'm filming myself | :29:31. | :29:36. | |
on one of these on one of these whilst being filmed by one of these | :29:36. | :29:41. | |
at the same time. And that's what I will be talking about, how | :29:41. | :29:47. | |
fatastically annoying people like me are. Marcus Brigstocke | :29:47. | :29:50. | |
definitely doesn't welcome smartphones at his gigs. It is a | :29:50. | :29:57. | |
way of hoovering up his material, for one thing. Do you let all this | :29:57. | :30:01. | |
wash over you or what do you do? When I'm on stage I bring it up and | :30:01. | :30:05. | |
get the person to stop. If they don't stop straight away then I go | :30:05. | :30:15. | |
for them. When I played King Arthur in Spamalot, there was a night in | :30:15. | :30:20. | |
Oxford where you unsheathed Ecalibur, I'm not proud, I held my | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
sword alot of and threatened to sever a man's arm. I can't believe | :30:25. | :30:27. | |
through the conversation you have been filming it, really | :30:27. | :30:32. | |
disrespective, I thought this was a genuine experience! We thought we | :30:32. | :30:36. | |
would gorilla it! See -- guerrilla it and see what happens? Do you | :30:36. | :30:44. | |
even know what that means? No!I'm Dr Jay Watts, I'm a clinical | :30:44. | :30:51. | |
psychology and psychotherapist, specialising in narcissism within | :30:51. | :30:58. | |
cyberspace. Surrounded by entries for this year's BP Portrait Award | :30:58. | :31:02. | |
at the National Gallery, Dr Watts identifies a generation gap. | :31:02. | :31:07. | |
There has been a real cultural shift, where especially young | :31:07. | :31:12. | |
people, the called digital natives, men and women born after 1980, | :31:12. | :31:16. | |
really sometimes have almost an idea that one doesn't experience | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
something unless one represents it. And the representation increasingly | :31:20. | :31:25. | |
is on cyberspace. So it is pictures of an event, it is tweeting about | :31:25. | :31:31. | |
an event. And really that has become such a new way of thinking | :31:31. | :31:35. | |
that people share straight away almost addicted to the kind of hit, | :31:35. | :31:39. | |
hit, hit of people liking and reinforcing what one has been | :31:39. | :31:47. | |
through. This is a place to pause, study, | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
reflect. Smartphones are taboo, or so you might think. In fact the | :31:51. | :31:55. | |
gallery is considering allowing them and its director is a bit of a | :31:55. | :32:02. | |
fan. I think at certain moments getting out a smartphone actually | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
will make some people look more closely. As long as it is not the | :32:06. | :32:09. | |
only thing. As long as people do things around it to savour the | :32:09. | :32:12. | |
moment and think of the moment. I don't think it is a substitute for | :32:12. | :32:16. | |
memory, I think it can maybe enhance it. It makes people to | :32:16. | :32:24. | |
think about why they wanted that moment and the image mattered. | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
People who meet the Queen often say it is an experience they will never | :32:29. | :32:35. | |
forget. But if they spend a moment taking pictures, what is it exactly | :32:35. | :32:40. | |
that they will remember? To discuss some of those points we are joined | :32:40. | :32:49. | |
by the technology journalist and broadcaster all election Krutofsky | :32:49. | :32:52. | |
and novelist. Why are people doing this? It is way to document | :32:52. | :32:55. | |
themselves and document the worlds around them. Document themselves? | :32:55. | :32:59. | |
Absolutely. It is a first person perspective, isn't T whether you | :32:59. | :33:04. | |
are taking a photograph of yourself, a selfie, or taking a photograph of | :33:04. | :33:07. | |
your surroundings, it is a first- person adventure that you are | :33:07. | :33:10. | |
capturing. What do you think? agree it is people documenting | :33:10. | :33:15. | |
themselves. I also think it is a sign of cultural anxiousness. We | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
have been through a period of a couple of hundred years where the | :33:18. | :33:28. | |
self has been very important to us, and in tearority we arep told by | :33:28. | :33:34. | |
modern novelist we should be looking into the subjects and we | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
have found there is not much there maybe! We are at a moment where | :33:39. | :33:43. | |
maybe we are not trusting something actually happened unless it is | :33:43. | :33:45. | |
shared. Proving the girl waiting for the popstars said you have to | :33:45. | :33:48. | |
prove it! You have to prove that you did that. That is what those | :33:48. | :33:53. | |
people were doing with the Queen. The actual experience of being in | :33:53. | :33:56. | |
the vicinity of the Queen is probably quite bland. But you want | :33:56. | :34:02. | |
to be somebody who has been near the Queen. That makes it more bland | :34:02. | :34:07. | |
if all you have of the event is some image on a smartphone. That's | :34:07. | :34:12. | |
the terrible horror and emptiness of post-modernity. There was | :34:12. | :34:15. | |
something interesting that the National Portrait Gallery owner | :34:15. | :34:19. | |
described when he was talking about the exhibition, and he said it will | :34:19. | :34:23. | |
allow people to look more closely at something, a portrait or an | :34:23. | :34:26. | |
image. Part of the experience of capturing something like that on | :34:26. | :34:29. | |
your smartphone, these things happen in a split second. The Queen | :34:29. | :34:33. | |
walks by. Save it for later. You can. The Queen walks by you blink | :34:33. | :34:37. | |
and you miss it, this way you can see it, it is slightly different | :34:37. | :34:39. | |
from the person next to you, that is unique. That is interesting, you | :34:40. | :34:43. | |
can have a conversation about that. Then you take it away, not only | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
bragging rights, yes I was there, but also you can take a closer look | :34:47. | :34:52. | |
and really experience it a bit more. As a memory trigger for whatever | :34:52. | :34:57. | |
was going on at that time. In the same way that we have taken as long | :34:57. | :35:03. | |
as we have been able to take photos we have been capturing content, we | :35:03. | :35:09. | |
happen to be putting it into a digital medium as opposed to a an | :35:09. | :35:13. | |
album that we stick in a dusty corner. And don't look at for 20 | :35:13. | :35:18. | |
years? Absolutely, they are memory triggers in the same way objects we | :35:18. | :35:22. | |
acquire, snow globe or themables that we collect when we are | :35:22. | :35:27. | |
travelling. It is the same thing that will transport us | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
psychologically, intellectually, back to a particular time where we | :35:29. | :35:33. | |
were, when we were, when those things were capturing. If you don't | :35:33. | :35:36. | |
look at it what's the point? What's the point of having the little | :35:36. | :35:42. | |
themables or the snow globes you got when you - themable or snow | :35:42. | :35:47. | |
globes you got on holiday. At least it will sit on your mantle piece | :35:47. | :35:50. | |
and you know where you got the ridiculous thing? If you are in the | :35:50. | :35:53. | |
pub or down at the library or at school and you pick up your phone | :35:53. | :35:57. | |
and you flick through and you can compare and share with the people | :35:57. | :36:07. | |
:36:07. | :36:09. | ||
that you are with. Say here I was. It is all about showing off? It is | :36:09. | :36:12. | |
creating an identity and capturing a sense of the self as a narrative. | :36:12. | :36:16. | |
Where you were as an individual back then and where you are going | :36:16. | :36:19. | |
now. I sense a degree of intellectual scepticism? All we | :36:20. | :36:25. | |
have been doing is talking about what photography is. We have always | :36:25. | :36:28. | |
done that. What is interesting is behaviour has changed and the sheer | :36:28. | :36:32. | |
volume of material we are creating has changed. Virtually some | :36:32. | :36:35. | |
extraordinary percentage of all the photographs that have ever been | :36:35. | :36:40. | |
taken have been taken in the last three or four years since cellphone | :36:40. | :36:44. | |
cameras became ubiquitous. My concern is that not so much with | :36:44. | :36:47. | |
people taking photographs, let everybody take as many as pe they | :36:47. | :36:53. | |
want. But it is with the -- as many as they want. But it is our | :36:53. | :36:55. | |
collision through photography, through network technologies of | :36:55. | :37:04. | |
various kinds in making a kind of eye penopticon that we are now | :37:04. | :37:08. | |
living in a world where we are always on, where there is always at | :37:08. | :37:13. | |
least the potential of being watched and of being recorded, of | :37:13. | :37:17. | |
our behaviour not being private or interior, being something that we | :37:17. | :37:22. | |
are performing. This isn't nice?I don't think it is nice at all. I | :37:22. | :37:26. | |
think the cultural conversation about it is lagging behind the | :37:26. | :37:31. | |
technology a long way. The notion of performing is a new thing, we | :37:31. | :37:35. | |
stick a particular T-shirt on and we walk down the street. We perform | :37:35. | :37:39. | |
every time we use particular lingo. We indicate and express to other | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
people, whoever they may be, that we are part of a particular group. | :37:42. | :37:47. | |
I think that's part of what's going on. How it is evolving and how it | :37:47. | :37:50. | |
is being captured and how we deal with it in the long-term is | :37:50. | :37:54. | |
something that's certainly up for discussion, and we need to develop | :37:54. | :37:59. | |
that conversation. Thank you both of you. What | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
responsibility do we owe to asylum- seeker, it is a question which | :38:02. | :38:04. | |
almost every wealthier country in the world has to answer. | :38:04. | :38:09. | |
Historically, as the land of second chances, Australia, the called | :38:09. | :38:13. | |
"lucky country" was built on immigration. But the same question | :38:13. | :38:18. | |
has raised even more livid questions than here. They cooked up | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
a mechanism called the Pacific solution, which meant that people | :38:20. | :38:24. | |
who had risked their lives crossing the world to get to Australia ended | :38:24. | :38:28. | |
up being held not in Australia at all, but on an island in another | :38:28. | :38:37. | |
country all together. Our reporter has had exclusive access. | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
We are not animal, we are human. These remote tropical island | :38:42. | :38:46. | |
detention centres were supposed to be a thing of the past. But now | :38:46. | :38:48. | |
they are back at the centre of Australia's toxic immigration | :38:48. | :38:54. | |
debate. They are intended as a deterrent, | :38:54. | :39:01. | |
to stop boat people heading for Australian shores. A perilous | :39:01. | :39:10. | |
journey which for scores has ended in disaster and death. But the | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
policy known as the Pacific solution has been slammed for being | :39:13. | :39:20. | |
inhumane. We have become the first news organisation to gain access to | :39:20. | :39:24. | |
a detention centre where asylum seekers from Sri Lanka, Afghanistan, | :39:24. | :39:28. | |
Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, and the Palestinian territories are being | :39:28. | :39:34. | |
held. But are its new low- constructed | :39:34. | :39:37. | |
accommodation blocks easing the psychological pain of indefinite | :39:37. | :39:45. | |
detention. In tackling its boat people problem, | :39:45. | :39:49. | |
the biggest power in the South Pacific has looked to its smallest | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
neighbour for help. Nauru is one of the tiniest Republics in the world, | :39:54. | :39:59. | |
and also the most remote. In the hey day of its mining boom in the | :39:59. | :40:04. | |
1970s and 1980s, it was per capita one of the richest nations in the | :40:04. | :40:10. | |
world. Nowadays it is one of the poorest. | :40:10. | :40:16. | |
So despite its tropical setting and swaying palms, it is far from | :40:16. | :40:19. | |
paradise. Its jagged coastline reinforces a sense of isolation and | :40:19. | :40:29. | |
:40:29. | :40:31. | ||
enclosure. Last September 30 Sri Lankan asylum | :40:31. | :40:35. | |
seekers touched down here. The first to arrive since the Labour | :40:35. | :40:40. | |
Government shut down the Howard era detention centre in 2007. With no | :40:40. | :40:44. | |
time to build a proper detention centre, the asylum seekers were | :40:44. | :40:54. | |
:40:54. | :40:55. | ||
housed initially in army tents. The most makeshift of accommodation. | :40:55. | :41:00. | |
Keiren Keke, a trained doctor, is Nauru's former Foreign Minister. He | :41:00. | :41:03. | |
says the timetable imposed by the Australian Government was | :41:03. | :41:09. | |
ridiculous. There was a very, very strong push to have a centre | :41:09. | :41:13. | |
operating in whatever form, as quickly as possible. This was a bit | :41:13. | :41:20. | |
of a rush job? It was too quick, the set-up was too quick. Our | :41:20. | :41:23. | |
Government told the Australians that we felt it was too quick. In | :41:23. | :41:29. | |
any of the discussions that we had previously the minimum time frames | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
that we are talking about were three months to be able to have | :41:33. | :41:37. | |
some basic facility operating. And certainly ouric pecktation was more | :41:37. | :41:42. | |
on the lines of -- our expectation was six months to have more of a | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
significant fashion and operation, to have something up within a month | :41:46. | :41:55. | |
was really unrealistic. We have seen the consequences of that. | :41:55. | :41:59. | |
wasn't long before daily protests erupted, as these pictures filmed | :41:59. | :42:03. | |
secretly, and first broadcast on the Australian broadcasting | :42:03. | :42:07. | |
corporation show. The conditions are intensely hot and humid. The | :42:07. | :42:15. | |
centre's tent city was overcrowded. The uncertainty of indefinite | :42:15. | :42:21. | |
detention inflicted psychological damage. For some it was unbearable. | :42:21. | :42:25. | |
Asylum seekers sewed together their lips in silent protest, sometimes | :42:25. | :42:30. | |
using paper clips as needles. There have also been suicide attempts. | :42:30. | :42:36. | |
This man, whose identity we can't reveal tried to hang himself. His | :42:36. | :42:42. | |
neck was badly injured. This worker from inside the camp, who wants to | :42:42. | :42:48. | |
protect his identity was appalled by what he saw. The men are | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
frustrated in Nauru, there is a sense of helplessness and | :42:51. | :42:55. | |
desperation. For many of them the way they express this frustration | :42:55. | :43:01. | |
is through self-harm and suicide attempts. One man said to me "we | :43:01. | :43:05. | |
can choose to take it out on other people but we don't, we take it out | :43:05. | :43:10. | |
upon ourselves to express our pain". Men are cutting themselves, burning | :43:10. | :43:15. | |
themselves with cigarettes. We have had men attempt to commit suicide | :43:15. | :43:20. | |
using bed sheets, using the ropes off tents. For them they see no | :43:20. | :43:24. | |
future and they see no hope of leaving. They have been in Nauru | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
for nine months and they have no idea if it will be another nine | :43:27. | :43:35. | |
months or another three years or another five years. The track | :43:35. | :43:41. | |
inland to the detention centre passes through the island's | :43:41. | :43:48. | |
phosphate mining fields. A landscape that is eerie and hostile. | :43:48. | :43:53. | |
Then there is the thick jungle that separates and camouflages it from | :43:53. | :44:00. | |
the outside world. Up until now the journey for those covering the | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
Pacific solution beat has stopped here at the entrance. The | :44:03. | :44:08. | |
Australian Government has imposed the strict media ban. We have | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
become the first news organisation to be allowed inside. Australia's | :44:14. | :44:18. | |
department for immigration clearly wanted us to see how Nauru's tent | :44:18. | :44:24. | |
city has been replaced by permanent accommodation. The $100 million | :44:24. | :44:28. | |
project has been designed, not so much with comfort in mind, but | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
certainly more civility. Under the strict stipulations of our visit, | :44:32. | :44:35. | |
we are not allowed to identify anyone in the centre. Although one | :44:35. | :44:39. | |
of the Australian Government's chief concerns about letting us in | :44:39. | :44:46. | |
was that it would look too nice, negating its deterrent effect. | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
There is no fence or razor wire, but the jungle creates a natural | :44:50. | :44:56. | |
barrier. It is currently home for over 400 people, all of them men, | :44:56. | :45:01. | |
again we are not allowed to show their faces, in case their asylum | :45:01. | :45:05. | |
claims are rejected and they are sent home. Over 90% of boat people | :45:05. | :45:11. | |
turn out to be bona fide refugees. They are subject to the Australian | :45:11. | :45:16. | |
Government's new "no advantage" principle, which could see boat | :45:16. | :45:20. | |
people detained for up to five years, so they aren't seen asylum | :45:20. | :45:25. | |
seeking queue jumpers. What we want to do apparently is to make sure | :45:25. | :45:29. | |
selves look even less desirable than the Taliban. Julian Burnside | :45:29. | :45:33. | |
is one of Australia's leading human rights lawyers, and represents a | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
number of boat people held on Nauru. We want people to prefer to face | :45:37. | :45:41. | |
the Taliban than to face us. I'm not sure I want to see my country | :45:41. | :45:46. | |
fall that low and yet that seems to be the course they are following. | :45:46. | :45:49. | |
If the Pacific solution is supposed to be a deterrent, it will only | :45:49. | :45:53. | |
work as long as everyone who sets out knows about it, that is not a | :45:53. | :45:58. | |
certainty by any means, and we have to look more frightening than the | :45:58. | :46:06. | |
perils they are escaping. Unbeknown to these young Nauruan, their | :46:06. | :46:10. | |
island has become part of Australia's political game, and a | :46:10. | :46:20. | |
brutal one for that. With an election set for December, border | :46:20. | :46:26. | |
issues are serious, it is seen as a vote-winner. The revival of the | :46:26. | :46:30. | |
Pacific solution for Australians is an embarrassing reversal. When | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
ministers ended the policy they described it as cynical and costly | :46:34. | :46:39. | |
and ultimately unsuccessful exercise. But the Gillard | :46:39. | :46:43. | |
Government fears being seen soft on asylum-seeker, especially at a time | :46:43. | :46:46. | |
when one of the Conservative politicians most ringing slogans is | :46:46. | :46:51. | |
"stop the boats", the return to the Pacific solution was born of | :46:51. | :46:54. | |
political weakness. The trouble is the tough policy hasn't stopped the | :46:54. | :46:58. | |
Government slide in the polls, and even more crucially it hasn't | :46:58. | :47:05. | |
stopped the boats. Since announcing its controversial new approach over | :47:05. | :47:09. | |
21,000 asylum seekers have been intercepted in Australian waters. | :47:09. | :47:14. | |
In 340 boats. So the embattled Labour Government | :47:14. | :47:20. | |
is itself all at sea. For its Conservative opponents, Nauru is | :47:20. | :47:24. | |
part of a failed border protection strategy. For many on the | :47:24. | :47:28. | |
Australian left the detention centre stands as a landmark to | :47:28. | :47:36. | |
their country's heartlessness towards boat people. | :47:36. | :47:41. | |
We asked the Australian Government for a response to his report, but | :47:41. | :47:51. | |
:47:51. | :47:57. | ||
they declined. That's all we have Good evening, we have one more | :47:57. | :48:00. | |
humid night on the way, from Friday night it will be a little bit | :48:00. | :48:03. | |
fresher. As far as Friday goes, it is going to be quite a good day | :48:03. | :48:07. | |
across the majority of the UK, sunshine around. Maybe one or two | :48:07. | :48:10. | |
showers, but essentially it is a fine day, however later on in the | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
day there will be thicker cloud and some rain getting in just to the | :48:13. | :48:17. | |
west of Northern Ireland. For Scotland, this is 4.00, plenty of | :48:17. | :48:21. | |
sunshine around the north, maybe a couple of light sprinkles of rain, | :48:21. | :48:27. | |
nothing more than that. Across the border, England, Pennines, here are | :48:27. | :48:32. | |
the isolated showers -- thundery, maybe even heavy in one or two | :48:32. | :48:35. | |
places. The vast majority of the country across the south of the UK | :48:35. | :48:38. | |
will enjoy the fine weather. For a lot of us it will feel warmer | :48:38. | :48:41. | |
because we are going to have a bit more sunshine compared to what we | :48:41. | :48:45. | |
have just had today. You can see the fine weather extends into the | :48:45. | :48:49. | |
south west and Wales too. A scattering of cloud here and there. | :48:49. | :48:52. | |
Fresher on the boast around 15 degrees, let's have a look at the | :48:52. | :48:55. | |
end of the week and into the weekend and other places. Belfast | :48:55. | :48:58. | |
it does freshen up here by the time we get to Saturday. Temperatures | :48:58. | :49:02. | |
dip down to 15 degrees, the wind will be stronger too, the same goes | :49:02. | :49:07. | |
for many other areas, the big temperature drop in Birmingham from | :49:07. | :49:11. |