28/06/2013 Newsnight


28/06/2013

After the Oxford abuse case, can the Imans offer a solution? The bling ring that stole from Hollywood celebs. And the Rohinngya of Burma. With Jeremy Paxman.


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Imams appeal to plaums to help prevent child abuse and sexual

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exploitation. It is a crime of a twisted bunch of people who are

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sick to the core, staying silent about T it is in itself a sin.

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is hard to imagine the Church of England doing anything similar,

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well intentioned though the appeal may be, is it an acknowledgement

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that the community has a particular problem? The man who wrote the

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sermon will be joining us. And then this... Paris Hilton is hosting a

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party tonight. Where does she live, could we find a way in. Let's go to

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Paris's, I want to rob. But it is more than robbery, it is greed, it

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is stupidity and homeage. The The Bling Ring is based on a true story

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of teenage worship of celebrity and fashion. We will be talking to the

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writer of this tale of our times. We report from Burma about how a

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year on from the fighting which drove them from their homes and

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despite British aid, the Rohingya people are still desperate.

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Prominent Muslims in Britain used today's weekly worship to try to

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get a message through the mosques that certain sorts of behaviour,

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notably criminal and sexual behaviour, were not acceptable. It

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was claimed earlier that the message it be read out at 500

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mosques. Organisations keen to promote good community relations

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talked up the claim that the figure is a figment of someone's

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imagination and in Oxford, where this week a gang was sentenced for

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a series of child sex offences, various mosques refused to read it

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out at all. So what did happen? you and me what's happened by those

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criminals, those thugs is totally condemned. They have no space in

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our religion, they have no space in our community. So those who think

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that sex cannot be talked about in our mosques, and I need you to wake

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up and smell the coffee. Of course you can, there are no topics in

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Islam that is taboo. The message was hard-hitting, there must be

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change now and Muslims need to act. Yesterday saw the jailing of seven

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men from Oxford who plied girls with drugs and alcohol before

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forcing them to perform sexual acts. As in other cases the abuse was

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largely perpetrated by Asian men. Sometimes in full view of

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bystanders. Today was an attempt by religious leaders to urge fellow

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Muslims not to turn a blind eye but to confront the problems in their

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midst. What has happened by those criminals and those thugs is

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totally condemned. Staying silent about it, covering it up is in

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itself a sin. But the reporting of it doesn't always happen, as an

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anonymous contributor told a BBC Asian Network debate this morning.

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How many people in your social circle knew that these guys were

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bad guys? All of my friends knew that these guys were bad, to be

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honest. Do you think there were people who actually genuinely knew

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what they were doing? Yeah.And didn't say anything? Yeah, I think

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so. I definitely think so. Why do you think that? The group of

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friends is quite big and obviously as a group of friends boys together

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they talk. So I'm a sure other people did know. So it wasn't a

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secret? In the sense it wasn't hidden away. Everybody in the

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community knows they were bad people. Today's sermons also linked

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sex before marriage to abuse. Anyone who abuses children, anyone

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who has sex outside marriage, anyone who exploits other people

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for sexual favours for us it is all wrong, it is all sins. As far as we

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are concerned we need to have a holistic and healthy approach to

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this whole topic otherwise we are sleepwalking into self-destruction.

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Islam was today described as suffering from a crisis in

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masculinity. In which distorted views about women had been allowed

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to develop unchallenged. So was the sermon a good idea? I'm very

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impressed of the way he actually expressed the idea of sex and

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sexuality among our youth and the fact that sometimes the community,

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the Muslim community doesn't usually talk about sex. But he

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actually expressed it, we are free to talk about it. To speak about it

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but not in the mosque. I think it should be at a forum, go to the

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schools, meetings and so on. And discuss it properly, but to come

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into the mosque and what he's saying to me it is like, it is

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tantermount to distortion. Street grooming is not something usually

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spoken about in mosques during Friday prayers. Today many have

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condemned it saying that it is wrong and society needs to work

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harder to combat it. Some Muslims say it marks an important moment

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and a shift in attitude in Islam, but for many others it is something

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the religion has always spoken out against and ceremony Mondays like

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this perhaps give the impression -- sermons like this perhaps give the

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impression this is the first time it has been addressed. It seems it

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assume that some how Muslims don't know this is a wicked and evil

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crime. I mean from a very, very early age every Muslim is taught

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that anything to do with sexual exploitation of children or alcohol

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or drugs is, you know it is a sinful activity, and it is not

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something that one should participate in. It is not clear how

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many mosques delivered the sermon today. The language was certainly

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bold, but there is no guarantee it will have reached those that need

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to hear it most. We are joined now from Leeds by Alyas Karmani who

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wrote today's sermon, and is also a Respect Councillor in Bradford. Can

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you tell us roughly how many mosques read out this sermon?

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we haven't got precise numbers but we know it is certainly in the

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hundreds. If I can give you an example all present Imams were

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urged to read the sermon today. That is just 200 Imams and we know

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there were several hundred around the country. How many did read it

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out? We have the got an exact number in that how many mosques did

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it. We know there was overwhelming support. All the leading Islamic

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umbrella organisations have endorsed the sermon, that is across

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all denominations there is overwhelming support for the

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project. This is a long-term project. Not just a one-off event.

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The mosques who chose not to read it out, three out of four in Oxford

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where the latest crimes were committed or the men were sentenced,

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of the mosques which chose not to read it out, did they tell you why

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they wouldn't read it out? I can understand in Oxford there are

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sensitivites given the verdicts this week. But I think people have

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to realign back on to the core issue. This is the fact that the

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victims of this crime are children, 11, 12-year-olds whose lives have

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been irrevocably destroyed. Sometimes we are forgetting that.

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We can't be silent when it comes to child abuse, whatever community. If

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anything the Koran is very explicit about the issues, about child

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protection and protecting children from all kinds of abuse, whether it

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is physical or sexual. That Muslims have to be proactive on this issue.

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The mosque is the perfect place to have that discussion and the Friday

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prayers is the perfect vehicle for that. Of course there has been some

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criticisms. But I actually invite and I'm thinking it is really

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positive that we are having this debate and this discussion and we

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are all moving forward together. This is an issue that affects

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everyone in society. It is not just a Muslim issue, that is really

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important. We need to focus on the criminality, not faith, race and

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culture. And Muslims are giving leadership and direction to many,

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many other faith groups in society. A crime is a crime is a crime. Is

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there a particular problem in your community? In certain sections of

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the Muslim community due to organised crime groups, yes young

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men from Muslim backgrounds then do get involved in this reprehensible

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behaviour, but it is not unique of people of Muslim or south Asian

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background, our work nationally identifies that the similar kind of

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gangs operate in all cities and areas around the country, and

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obviously the Children's Commissioner's report identified

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that street grooming in inner city deprived areas as well as in leafy

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suburbs, we all have to be vigilent in terms of identifying those

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particular, that particular pattern. Your sermon was intended for a

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particular community. Does that community have a particular

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problem? Look I think you know we have to sub sume this into a bigger

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issue. When we talk about crisis of masculinity, this isn't just around

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Muslims, this is a global issue. How we are constructing masculinity

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today in society. You know the World Health Organisation brought

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out a report just recent low that identified one in three women

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globally experienced sexual and physical violence, that is a global

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epidemic that has been identified. It is the way that masculinity has

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been constructed, based on extreme pat arky, misogyny, vie --

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patriarchy, misogyny, violence, it creates a rape culture, we are

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seeing it in many parts of the world. It is not unique to Muslims

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or people of Muslim background. me be quite explicit, I'm not

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suggesting that for a second. We know this happens in all sorts of

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communities, I'm asking you because you spoke to your community today,

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or tried to, what particular problems there are you think in

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your community? I think there are particular problems in the

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Pakistani community and in the Muslim community. As I said they

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are related to organised crime groups that are involved in drug

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supply, trafficking, kidnapping and pimping. I think in areas where

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there is large sections of the Muslim community we know it that

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this behaviour takes place as your report said people were aware of

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abuse in Oxford, yet they didn't do anything about it. One of the

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strong messages we put out is where we know that abuse is taking place

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we have got to speak about it. We have got to challenge it and we

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have got to work with the agencies to make sure those individuals,

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those criminals are obviously dealt with. Let me put this very bluntly,

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this is an accusation I have heard in the white community. That is

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that some how there are elements of your community, who think if it is

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done to a white girl it is some how less of a crime? Well absolutely,

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that is absolutely wrong, and if that view exists again that is why

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we needed today's sermon to completely challenge that. I began

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today's sermon by saying Islam digfies all human beings. These are

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not someone else's, and the "other", they are our society and our

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children. They are as valuable as our own children. That is the

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attitude and values we have to get across. The other thing is by

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creating these stereotypes of particular victims there are other

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victims that become invisible in the whole process, Asian girls,

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black girls are other etnisties have been victimised by this

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terrible crime as well, that is why we have to be vigilent in terms of

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projecting children. Much Thank you very much indeed. Now that nice

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Emma Watson, Hermione from Harry Potter told the world today she

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only had eight payers of shoes. In the -- pairs of shoes. In the 21st

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century that is like having a hair shirt and whipping yourself on the

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saints day. A film has just opened in the states called The Bling Ring,

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Emma Watson is one of its stars. But the story of a gang of vapid

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spoilt teenagers who break into the homes of their heros is said to

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have caught part of the zeitgeist of the trivial amoral times in

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which we now live. In a moment I will be talking to the author who

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has tried to tell the story of The Bling Ring. Before that here is the

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shallowist man on television, Stephen Smith! Being famous for

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being famous begins to look like a dig nationwide and hard-won

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discipline when you see what comes next. Being famous for swiping the

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clothes of the famous. I'm nick y, this is Sam. Oh my God it is Paris

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Hilton. I think we wanted to be part of the lifestyle, the life

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style that everybody kind of wants. But that is what happens when you

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cross teenagers hooked on reality TV shows. Do you think we could

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find a way in. With websites telling you where the stars live.

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want to rob! Oh my God.That is a cute dress. Did you get a new

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dress? It was one of those stranger than faction sales that hits the

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zeitgeist at its sweet spot, the kids had been advertising their

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criminal doings on Facebook, reality television and the media

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itself, all wrapped up in a made for TV movie, that didn't exist yet

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but it would. I watch a lot of the Kardashians and the Hills, and then

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it was really trying to understand her psychology more than anything.

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I thought the whole thing was so fascinating and contemporary the

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story couldn't have happened ten years a I thought it was an

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interesting story for a movie and said so much about our culture

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today. I'm a firm believer in Karma. The teenage wannabes eventually

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encountered the American judicial process in all its majesty, arrest,

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charges, TV interviews. She went off the deepend. Please, this is my

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interview! Fame became synonymous with wealth, success, popularity,

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self-validation, and now the new generation, my teenage cousins all

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want to be famous and everybody thinks they can be famous, and with

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the rise of celebrities who are famous for being famous, like Paris

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Hilton, there is no reason why these people can't think they can

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be. Nancy Jo, this is Alexis calling. Sure enough one of The

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Bling Ring went on to have a reality TV moment, calling the

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journalist, Nancy Jo Sales to correct her on vital points of fact.

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Like saying I four six-inch heels from Loubtin, and my tweed shirt, I

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wore four-inch heels. Every time you do that I have to re-record it.

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Fading star Norma Desmond said she's still back and the movies

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have got small, now the stars are small. At least one of The Bling

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Ring gang gets it. Paris Hilton is famous for what, a sex tape? The

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values and stuff America has is so wrong, people should focus on

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politics and inventors and the important things. It shouldn't be

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celebrity and people famous for doing things that isn't really

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important and not helping society. Damn that is perfect, check it out.

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Very sportingly Paris Hilton let film makers shoot in the very

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boudoir where the bling ringers were light fringeered. She was

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furious after the first few burglaries when she finally noticed

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her stuff was missing. I live in a gated community, that wasn't enough,

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so now I have set up laser systems everywhere and security cameras and

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24-hour guards I'm very safe now. No more kids breaking in. I think

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that also says a lot that these people get so much free stuff that

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you can just rob them and they won't even notice. The only way the

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celebrities started to notice is when the teenagers got carried away

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and would make a mess in the houses and take everything in the closets.

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Everything about this story reflects pretty poorly on America.

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You can't steal her dog. But he likes me! We're joined now from New

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York by Nancy Jo Sales, the Vanity Fair journalist who wrote about

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those wannabe celebrities and has written the book The Bling Ring and

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was the recipient of the absurd phone call of complaint. What do

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you think these kids were doing, were they trying to harm their hero

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or paying them homeage? I think they wanted their stuff! They

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wanted to live the lifestyle of these celebrities and that involved

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having the things that the celebrities had. So they were in a

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sense paying them homeage. This is a belief that some how if you d

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homeage, this is a belief that if you wear certain clothes you some

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how become a celebrity, what? are growing up in an age when

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celebrity news, if you can call it that, has really exploded. We have

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blogs 24- 7 and magazines, they are surrounded by images of celebrities

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all the time. There is a value promoted by celebrity culture

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saying this is great, this is the lifestyle we should all want to

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live. You quoted in the piece that being said to me in my book. So I

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think that where as every kid doesn't walk into a house and steal

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their stuff. I think that not just in America, but I think in the

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globalised celebrity culture that we do have, I think a lot of kids

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are unhelpfully feeling these are things I must have in order to live

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a good life. Why do you think they feel that. What is the void that it

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some how would fill for them? I think that these things are

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glamorised. We live in a very different time than say when I was

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growing up and there were different values being promoted by television

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shows and by movies. Now these kids have grown up with shows promoting

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wealth and a luxury lifestyle and celebrity Gossip Girl, Entourage

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The Hills, even shows for younger children, Hannah Montana seems to

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glamorise the celebrity lifestyle being really great and we should

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all want that. This is a real shift in our values that is really

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affecting kids. There have always been celebrities, it didn't matter

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once upon a time they were generals and other times they were sports

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figures. Sometimes they were industrialists or other wealthy

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figures. But there is a difference here in the sort of person who

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becomes a celebrity, isn't there? think there is a bunch of

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differences, one is that I just spoke about is the amount of

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exposure to the stuff, to celebrity culture, and then I think there is

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also a difference, as you say, in who becomes a celebrity. How the

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celebrity and not celebrity. I mean people now are self-promoting on

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Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, all these different places,

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that used to be the privvy of celebrities to promote your image

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all the time. This is now what regular people are doing. With

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reality TV there is this idea that anybody can become a celebrity. The

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most successful shows on television ever are the celebrity contestant

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shows like The Voice and American Idol, these are the most popular

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shows in television history where you are watching fame happen in

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real-time. People are absolutely fascinated. By this idea that this

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could happen to me. There is a sort of circularity to it isn't there?

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There certainly was in The Bling Ring story. These were kids who

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wanted to be famous and idolise these other, not really much older

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than kid like Paris and Lindsay who also really desperately wanted to

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be famous, and had a lot of the same problems and the same lives

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that these kids did. When I started to research the book I realised

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there was a weird mirroring between the victims and the robbers. They

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had a in common, actually. I said earlier this is a sort of tale of

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our times, but I wonder actual le if we are already getting slightly

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beyond the sort of world that is pictured in The Bling Ring, it is

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almost yesterday's story. Is there any sign of that? I don't think so.

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I think that Paris and Lindsay are the names connected with the story.

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This only happened three years ago. But I think if you are talking

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about celebrity culture it is only becoming more a part of our lives

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in the way that we all are sort of engaged in a celebrification of

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ourselves all the time. I don't think my book or movie sells it at

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all, these are things we need to talk about and I'm glad we are

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talking about. Thank you very much indeed. Now to

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Burma which in moving out of military rule with a terrible human

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rights reputation has been generally seen as earning the right

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to readmission to the community of nations. But since then ethnic

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tensions have exploded in various places, especially in the south of

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the country. The British have been running an overseas aid programme

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to try to help many of the Rohingya people who are driven from their

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homes in their fight. They are Muslims driven out by Buddhists.

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And a year on, they are still displaced. The camps that sprang up

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across this water-logged landscape a year ago are still there. As are

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the people who fled to them, nearly all of them Rohingya Muslims. Last

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year's sectarian fighting has a long history behind it. A legacy of

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fear and discrimination that smoldered and of Burma's military

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Governments. Many of the Buddhists, the majority are determined to

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drive out the Rohingya, saying they don't belong. So they have been

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banished to the margins. Unwanted, unrecognised. At least the official

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camps are getting help. The International Development Minister

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Alan Duncan came last week to see how British aid is being spent and

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to assess the prospects of reconciliation. The Rohingya were

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quite clear about what they would like. TRANSLATION: We just want to

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return to our homes. We want our old lives back. But the Burmese

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authorities are just as clear that this won't happen. Strict

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segregation, they say, is the safest option. It is a profoundly

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unequal segregation, that denies only the Rohingya's freedom of

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movement. But the Government argues that pressure from local Buddhists

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has forced its hand. It is very easy to say the Government should

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let as say give them citizenship, or treat them absolutely equally,

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the trouble is we are looking at an indigenous Burmese population who,

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I think, have an attitude which is going to take a long time to

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overcome. They have got a sense of identity that doesn't easily

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accommodate in comers, even though they have been here for generations.

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The state capital is now an almost exclusively Buddhist town.

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Rohingyas need permission to come here, few would dare any way. In

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the town's main gym I watched young men training. Some are hoping to

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represent their country when it hosts this year's south-east Asian

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games. Another milestone on Burma's journey away from its former

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isolation. But it is not a jouorny they are willing to share with

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their one-time -- journey they are willing to share with their one-

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time Muslim neighbours. TRANSLATION: It is not possible to

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live with them, we don't want to. They invaded our country. It is not

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just me saying this, if you ask any rakine Buddhist, they would say the

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same thing. These are the last Rohingyas living inside the town,

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they are barred from leaving so they have no access to work, food

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or medical treatment almost. They are in fact imprisoned in what has

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become a Rohingya ghetto. We were the first foreigners allowed into

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the town for several weeks. And those who do get out cannot come

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back. This man is one of the most outspoken Rohingya leaders. A I met

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him last year when still living in the ghetto. But after being

:26:26.:26:32.

arrested in February he fled here to the outskirts of town. Nearly

:26:32.:26:38.

five months I was separated from my family. That is your wife?Also in

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the ghetto. So I'm very sorrowful because my own father is 95 years

:26:43.:26:50.

old. So I want to meet him, you know. You didn't get permission?I

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didn't get permission from the security forces. We travelled two

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hours north of the town to see how more isolated Muslim communities

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are coping. Here this ter greatly out-- here they are greatly

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outnumbered by rakine Buddhists and the tension has increased to

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violence. This is the last of a ring of Buddhist villages that

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completely surround a single Muslim community, it is just ahead of us

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and it leaves the Muslims there completely isolated, cut off and

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unable to move. The Rohingyas who live here say their village dates

:27:37.:27:43.

back 200 years. They are not, they insist, illegal Bengali immigrant,

:27:43.:27:51.

as most Burmese buddists believe. Ali has been designated the

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village's medical expert, he's not a doctor. He claimed how the

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clashes last year had affected his commune toe. They lost all their

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livestock, he said, and their boats. And now they can't travel, even to

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reach a clinic or hospital. 18- year-old Morianne has been

:28:11.:28:14.

seriously ill sense the birth of had her son six months ago. Her

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house was burnt down in the violence and her husband is among

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170 men from the village who have been imprisoned since the clashes.

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TRANSLATION: Please someone help cure me from this pain, I have no

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husband, no money, no-one to care for me.

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Among the many difficulty these villagers face was the one that all

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Rohingyas complain about, their lack of citizenship. TRANSLATION:

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This is so important for us because without proper ID kartdz we can't

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go anywhere, not even -- cards we can't go anywhere, not even in our

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own states. We have been given white ID cards but with those we

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get arrested. There are Buddhists too who suffered last year, who

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lost their homes. Their numbers are small, the Government has built

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solid new houses for them to move in to in time for the rainy season.

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It is in stark contrast to the way the displaced Rohingyas, more than

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130,000 of them still have to live. An injustice that must cast doubt

:29:29.:29:35.

on the hopes of a better future for this country.

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Now the Arctic Monkeys, like many of you are waiting for me to shut

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up so they can start at Glastonbury, we will leave you with something

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more ethereal. Some of the entrance in the royal observe trees

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Astronomer of the Year. -- some of the entries for the Royal

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Observatory's Astronomer of the More cloud than sunshine it has to

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More cloud than sunshine it has to be said on Saturday. Patchy light

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rain into Scotland and drizzle into the North West of England and Wales

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too. Conditions will improve in Northern Ireland but any sunshine

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will be late in the day. The rain in Scotland will push to eastern

:30:47.:30:51.

areas of the country. We could see low cloud and drizzle coming into

:30:51.:30:54.

the North West of England. Chiefly the Cumbrian fells and always

:30:54.:30:58.

brighter and that bit warmer to the east of the Pennines, in East

:30:58.:31:01.

Anglia we will see a little sunshine at times, it will feel

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pleasant, 21 not out of the question, it should be dry at

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Wimbledon as well. We will see a little sunshine now and again in

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the south west of England, there will be times where we will have

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low cloud, drizzle for western parts of Wales later on in the day.

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Brighter skies remaining towards the east. If we look elsewhere

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across Europe it has been rather cool across central Europe, maybe

:31:24.:31:28.

warming up a touch for our city forecasts by the end of the weekend.

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The hot weather has been across Spain and Portugal and likely to

:31:33.:31:37.

remain there. 38 degrees in Lisbon. We will warm up on Sunday, not as

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