04/02/2014 Newsnight


With Jeremy Paxman. Simon Heffer reports on declining membership of the Conservative party, and Ghanaian afrobeat star Fuse ODG talks about his music and performs in the studio.

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Tonight, why is the membership of the Conservative Party falling


through the floor, and without adequate members, does it make the


next election unwinnable on the doorsteps? I think the Conservative


Party are out on their own for the better off but not the poorer. When


a right-wing commentator like Simon Heffer looks at the state of the


party, he needs a stiff drink. A few Tory MPs agree. I think there has


long been a disconnect between Central Office and the voluntary


parties. I'm not sure Central Office holds the opinions of the voluntary


party in the highest regard. If only I could make this message go viral.


After Scarlett Johansson discovers you can't have it all and chooses


Sodatream over Oxfam, we talk to the man who pays the piper and to the


charity which got the boot. Oot. Facebook turns ten, will the first


ten be much like the first. Fewer and fewer people seem


interested in politics, as Russell Brand has already told us. They are


all the same is the repeated complaint, the difficulty is no


political party can have that belief gain ground because the whole point


of elections, and there will be one next year, is they are built on a


choice. Everybody party has a problem with membership, but the


Conservatives, who could once muster an enormous army of individual


members have a particular problem. Membership has almost halved, for


example, since David Cameron became leader. Heffer, a long -- Simon


Heffer a long time observer and reporter explains. This report


contains flash photography. # I'm walking


# Yes indeed # I'm talking


# I'm hoping It is still 15 months away from the


next general election, but already Halifax candidate Phil and his team


are pounding the doorstep, trying to persuade people to vote blue when


the time comes. The Conservatives nationally are pursuing what they


call a 40-40 strategy, to hold their 40 most marginal seats and to win a


further 40 from other parties. Halifax is 18th on the target list.


But even here the party no longer has an office in the constituency,


which makes it tough for candidates such as Phil. What condition is your


association in Halifax, how big is your membership? The membership is


not huge. The membership pretty much mirrors from what I can see across


West Yorkshire and beyond. But what we do have is a dedicated team of


activists. But it is a compact team and in an ideal world everybody


could do with another 20 canvassers. One of the things the Conservative


Party has to look at is making it more attractive to be a party


member. This was Mrs Thatcher's first campaign sortie into the


north. The seat was last won by the Conservatives at the 1983 election,


in the landslide that followed an unapologetic campaign by Margaret


Thatcher. A shopkeeper's daughter from the East Midlands, who didn't


believe working-class areas were off limits. David Cameron's appeal to


the same constituency has been less instinctive. He promised to


rebalance the economy, to cause a recovery for all, north and south.


But he has struggled to shake off the "posh boy" image of Eton and the


Bullingdon club and to relate more naturally to working-class people.


What goes into it, OK oregano? No. Some Halifax voters seem to regard


the Conservative leadership as if from another planet. David Cameron


says the country is having an economic recovery and it is not just


in the south-east of England, have you seen much evidence of this


recovery in Halifax? No. Have things got better over the last four or


five years here? No, I think the Conservative Party are out for their


own, for the better off, but not for the poorer, not for the poor


families. There is people in Halifax the kids are starving, there is food


banks, there has never been food banks before. Is there anything that


would make you Conservative? At the moment I'm anti-voting full stop.


However some people are much more willing to engage with the political


process. What is your issue Sir? It is the amount of dog excrement. In


the end Phil's hard work pays off. Do we have your support at all? I


have always voted Conservative. That will do for me, thank you very much.


The stories really ought to win Halifax if they are to form a


majority Government, they will have to hold seats where they are


vulnerable, such as Thurrock, where Jacky Doyle Price has a majority of


just 92. We caught up with her in her Thames side constituency, while


she was meeting the port of London authority. One issue in particular


has caused her problems. The issue with same-sex marriage is it upset a


lot of traditional voters, so lots of Conservatives were very unhappy


about it. Ultimately, you know, we're elected, we have to do the


right thing, in the end I voted against the third reading. Even


though she's out pounding the pavements every weekend, Jackie


feels handicapped because the uniformity of today's politicians


leaves the electorate with little apparent choice. If you go back to


1980s, when I was becoming politically aware, politics was


exciting, it was about ideas, you know. There was a distinct


difference between the approach of Michael Foot and Margaret Thatcher.


We need ideas for them to get excited about. In some respects this


is where UKIP have found some success. If there is one thing the


Brits will get excited about is Europe, we all hate it. So they have


got a very rich place to attract people. Meanwhile, elsewhere in


Thurrock UKIP are plotting Jacky's downfall. . This This champion darts


player is UKIP's representative in Thurrock. He thinks he will score a


bullseye here. I'm sure you have been involved in political


espionage, what does your intelligence tell us about the state


of the Conservative Party here? It has been in decline for many years.


They got rid of their ward associations in the last decade.


They can't fight elections without calling in help from other branches,


other regions. We now have teams out regularly every weekend. We can


outman them. We are getting people out to vote who when faced with


Liberty-Lal-Con, they think they will stay in and watch the pub and


off to the pub. Now they think they can change the country. The


Conservatives used to be a mass movement party. When Winston


Churchill was leader they had two. Eight million members. In 2005 when


David Cameron became leader it had fallen to 250,000 members. In 2013


lax year, it -- last year, it had lapsed to 134,000. I get the


impression that the people who run the Conservative Party don't seem to


find very much that there has been such a decline in the mass


membership? I think there has long been a disconnect between Central


Office and the voluntary parties. I'm not sure Central Office holds


the opinions of the voluntary party in the highest regard, I think this


is a pity. I think the voluntary party is the essence of


Conservatism. That we are a party that is built up from the localities


rather than top down. I'm interested you talk about the disconnect, we


have seen in the last two days two Tory MPs deselected, Anne Mackintosh


and Tim Yeo, it seems where there is a vibrant association it is an


association determined not to take orders from Central Office or the


Prime Minister? I don't think it is helpful when the hierarchy


interconvience in local selections. In my own case Central Office was


very keen to stop me being selected. Actually I think every time they


said not to have me my support locally went up. Jacob Rees-Mogg is


right, the disconnect between the Tory leadership and their grassroots


is profound. Moon while UKIP are deeply determined and fielding an


expanding number of foot soldiers. The end of the Conservatives as a


mass movement could sabotage the party's chances, not just of winning


its target seats, but holding some it already has. By ignoring the


importance of their activists they could be making a fatal error. With


us now to discuss all of this is the very Simon Heffer you saw there, and


the former Chief Whip, Andrew Mitchell. You can't win the next


election if this picture is replicated across the land? I think


that the lack of boots on the ground, if you hike, is something


which a-- if you like, is something that afflicts all political party.


UKIP are pick up boots on the ground as shown in Simon's film. It is


important to recognise that the nature of campaigning is changing


quite a lot. For example the Conservative Party contact speaks to


hundreds of thousands of people every week by e-mail. You know we


have an enormous database of people who we contact. You have team 2015


which is designed to deal with the marginal seats, already got 4,000


people signed up to it. There is a broader way of campaigning too. What


do you make of the argument that you can remedy the shortfall in active


members, digitally. I have yet to find an internet website that will


drive an old lady to a polling station. Jacob Rees-Mogg didn't say


on camera but he told me off camera because he didn't have time, he


talked to a professor of sociology who had taken a survey of people who


had been asked on the doorstep to go and vote. Not for any particular


party, but to go and vote. And in the wards where people were asked to


go and vote to turn up was up by 7%. So it is clear, I think, by any


academic studies that actually going on to a doorstep, knocking on a door


and engaging with a voter gets them out to a polling station. That is


very important, but the point you make about people driving elderly


people to the polls, I mean that is one of the reason why there has been


a tremendous number of postal vote, to stop people being inconvienced in


that way, if they want to use the opportunity of the postal vote. I


think the nature of campaigning has changed. I don't deny that banging


on doors is essential, we all do it much of the time. But I think we


need to recognise that the Conservative Party is in touch with


probably more people than Churchill's Conservative Party was,


in spite of the much bigger membership at that time. You would


accept, Simon, it is not a normal thing to do to join a political


party is it? Not any more, no. But people are joining UKIP, and in many


of these target seats that the Conservatives have, and in many of


the seats they have to hold, UKIP are a very important force, they are


not necessarily the opposition, but they have the capacity to remove


large chunk of people who voted Conservative in 2010, or who might


be considering voting Conservative, and to UKIP they behave in a very


traditional way, they have boots on the ground, people canvassing every


weekend in place like Thurrock, knocking on doors, asking people to


support them when the next election comes. That is what the Conservative


Party is up against. That is what you are up begins. You have got to


try to counter that very traditional thing, which people still like. They


like the personal contact of a candidate on the doorstep. We


certainly have a lot of work to do but in the end many people in UKIP


are our cousins, we want them back. We need to persuade them that the


way to get the referendum, in-out Reverend dumb in 2017 is to vote --


referendum in 2017 is to vote Conservative. It is the only way to


achieve T I'm pretty confident between now and the general election


that point will register a lot with those flirting with UKIP at this


time. If you want the referendum a Conservative vote will deliver it.


You will have to end up in the same sort of mechanism that the Labour


Party has got itself in to, different types of membership, you


will have to start fudging things hike that won't you? We already have


some different relation. You are already fudging! If you look at the


figure, Simon's figure is not comparable with the figures for the


Liberal Democrats and Labour. The comparable figure is something like


174,000. And over recent weeks I gather from Central Office the


figures haven't yet been audited. Over recent weeks and months we have


seen our membership increase by several thousand. It is not static


situation. It is still pretty rubbish in comparison with what it


was. We have these alternative mechanisms, in terms of the number


of people the Conservative Party is talking to, it is now probably more


than it was in the time Simon was mentioned in Churchill's day. Are


you persuaded? No I'm not. One reason we went to Halifax, although


Phil was a very engaging candidate. We wanted to go to Morley and


Outwood, that is Ed Balls's seat, it is the 11th most vulnerable seat for


the Tories. The chairman agreed to speak to us, and at the last minute


rang the producer and said they didn't want to do it between now and


the election. From the inquiries I made there isn't really an


association in that area. In the 11th most vulnerable seat you have


got to try to win and the seat with Ed Balls in it, who is an enormous


scalp for your party. If you haven't an organisation there, if you are


not prepared to talk to the media about a your campaign there. 15


months outside an election, that seems unconvincing about the nature


of the campaign you hope to fight for that seat. . You saw Jackie


there an outstanding candidate who will be re-elected I'm sure. It is a


different part of the country? Team 2015 with the 4,000 members already,


more people recruited all the time, will certainly be visiting Ed


Balls's constituency, and will join what by then will be quite a big


team of people who will be working there for the Conservative interest.


This is your first outing since plebgate... On Newsnight. Very nice


to have you. Slut ask David Cameron for a job back in the cabinet? No,


not a question of it, those are his sorts of decisions. You were


unfairly deprived of it? Yes I was, but I hope to play a role in winning


the next election which we have been talking about. So you would like a


job back in cabinet. I would like a job in front line politics. What has


this whole fair done to your view of the police? I think it is important


to recognise that the vast majority of police do a brilliant a brilliant


job. We need to make sure there is reform in the police so everyone can


have confidence. That is what the police want to see as well. I hope


to play a modest part in ensuring that those reforms come into play.


Not just to protect citizens but the reputation of the police. Quite hard


to look at a policeman after your experience and wonder if he's going


to tell the truth, isn't it? I know quite well the police in Sutton


Coldfield, they do an excellent job. Those are the police I think about


when I think about the police in our country.


Coming up. # You move like the wind


# The way you put it on the floor # I give you my ring


# I want to give the round of applause


# I like the way you rule. If you were watching last night you would


have seen the bizarre tale of the UK Independence Party spokesman, who it


seems spent some time as the ringleader of a kidnap gang in


Pakistan. Today we have seen documents that show Mujeed Bhutto


had an active role in the Conservative Party before joining


UKIP. This is all about this man, Mujeed Bhutto, UKIP's Commonwealth


spokesman for the last year or so. Making some high-profile appearances


on national TV and radio. We were reporting back in 2005, using a


slitly different -- slightly different name. He was convicted in


terms of a complex kidnapping case involving a person in Pakistan and


spent some time in jail. The focus was on UKIP yesterday now it has


switched to the Conservatives. Two months after his release he had


joined the Tories. The Conservative chairman was asked about his role in


the party. Member of the Conservative Party in 2008, he paid


one year, left and joined UKIP. I should just add, for completeness,


he attempted to rejoin the party last week after having been the UKIP


spokesman. Because he's a spokesman for another party we rejected that


application. Have you managed to speak to Mr Bhutto? We spoke to him


this afternoon. He's adamant he was active in the Conservative Party for


much longer than a single year as Mr Shapps of suggesting there. We have


seen this invitation he was sent to an event by the local Tory


association in Leeds, after the 2010 election. So at least a year after


Mr Shapps was suggesting he left the party. Then there was this slightly


strange attempt to rejoin the Conservatives by Mr Bhutto earlier


this year. Mr Shapps said they rejected that approach. Mr Bhutto


said he has never been told he cannot join. He was sent this e-mail


from a local deputy Party Chairman in Yorkshire. Saying, ":


There is a real confusion about his role with the Tories. The


Conservatives saying even if he was a member or activist he was never a


spokesman or on TV representing the party, as he was with UKIP. That is


the key difference they say here. Now the script might have been


written by a satirist, a fizzy drink, a glamorous actress and


highly charged political issue. Scarlett Johansson's attempt to


reconcile her position as an ambassador of Oxfam, and truesering


a lot of money from a company called Sodastream didn't take long, a girl


has to eat. Hello American football fans with her appearance in a


commercial for a company which manufacturerses in the occupied --


manufactures in the occupied West Bank. Hollywood film star, Oxfam


ambassador and Sodastream girl. This week the actress found you can't


have it all. If only I could make this message go viral. She has


certainly done that, but not in the way that Sodastream intended. You


may remember it from 1980s Britain. But the bottles behind those dodgy


haircuts are now made here, at a Jewish settlement, built on occupied


territory outside Jerusalem. The factory employs Palestinians who


work alongside Jewish settler colleagues. Many campaign groups


want a ban on goods produced in reality settlements. Oxfam said the


ad violated the Convention on Human rights, and pressed Johansson on it.


She decided to hit with the drinks company, a less than happy ending to


when Hollywood meets Palestine. With us is the director of policy


for Oxfam. If these Palestinians are being well paid and being paid the


same as their Israeli compatriots, or their colleagues. What's wrong?


Our criticism is not of Sodastream's labour conditions. The issue is that


factory doesn't belong to Israel or Sodastream, it belongs to the people


who own that land who were thrown off that land in order that


settlements could be built. This isn't about soda or celebrities, it


is about settlements, the settlers impoverish the Palestinians. If I


took your house and now I turned it into a hotel as a porter, that


wouldn't be enough. Settlements hurt Palestinians. If this factory were


inside Israel there would be no problem for you? Oxfam doesn't


support a boycott against Israel, we have been clear about it. This


factory and the settlements are not in Israel, that is the position of


international law and the settlements hurt Palestinians. If it


was inside pre-1967 borders, you wouldn't have a problem? We have


never had an issue with Israel. What could Sodastream do to comply,


to meet your objection? They could fulfil international law and not be


in illegal settlements or someone else's territory. They have to shut


the factory down? If you meet people who live outside and close to the


settlements. They can't get permits for building and can be thrown out


of their homes, 100 people had their homes taken away just last month.


Settlements are hurting people across the West Bank. That is not


Sodastream's business taking away people's homes? We are not here to


criticise Sodastream but focus on the settlements. It is Sodastream


that has brought this to a head, as you know, there is really nothing


that Sodastream could do to meet your objections, bar shutting down


the factory and locating somewhere else. They should not be in the


settles, they are illegal -- settlements, they are illegal, they


need to go, they hurt Palestinians, they impoverish them, they make it


hard to get access to water, land and housing. It is damaging for the


Palestinian people. I wonder if you have any qualms at all about what


seems to some people about the bullying of Scarlett Johansson. I


think Scarlett Johansson did excellent work for Oxfam. I have no


criticism of Scarlett Johansson. Why couldn't she continue being an Oxfam


representative and do her commercials for Sodastream? Scarlett


Johansson resigned from only franc, we have made our -- Oxfam, we have


made our position clear on the settlements, they hurt Palestinian


people. To respond to that is the CEO of Sodastream, he's in Tel Aviv


now. Can you hear me? I can. In how much did you pay Scarlett Johansson


for this ad as matter of interest? It is not about money. And we don't


disclose t commercial terms we have with her. I can tell you that her


decision has not been financially motivated but rather


humanitarian-driven. She truly cares about people and bringing peace to


the region in the Middle East, and doing so within a two-state


solution. How do you feel about being part of


the occupation? Of territories seed from another country -- seized from


another country? What I'm doing in Sodastream in the factory is


occupying Palestinians side-by-side with Israelis, it is not a


settlement it is a factory. In fact we are part of the Palestinian


economy, and possibly part of the future, the seeds of the future


Palestinian state. We are not financing the settlement economy. We


are giving equal rise, benefits and opportunities to Palestinians, we


are proud about what we are doing in this factory. You have taken a


political position in choosing to operate this factory inside the


Occupied Territories, you accept that at least? No I inherited this


factory, it has been in there for 17 years, it is operating under the


agreement of the Palestinians themselves. This is an inconvenient


truth that many people forget. According to the Oslo accord of


1993, the Palestinians themselves agreed that area C, and this factory


is located in area C of the West Bank, will be operated under the


Israely administration, until the final borders will be drawn. That is


how we are operating. That is a God thing for the Palestinians who work


for me, because we are paying them Israeli wage which, is four-times


they would earn this in the Palestinian Authority, if they were


lucky enough to get a job. Their unemployment is 40%. You have


accepted Oxfam's position that you are operating an enterprise within


the Occupied Territories? Of course we are operating in enterprise


within the occupied fare threes. My -- territories. My dilemma is


putting people into unemployment and poverty. We employ 500 people and


each one feeds ten. Five #5,000 people have health insurance and


food on the table because of us. It is cynical and ironic that Oxfam, a


human rights organisation, whom I used to admire tremenduously are the


ones telling me to throw these people into poverty and


unemployment. It just, I can't understand how throwing 1300 people


into unemployment will promote peace. The Oxfam gentleman is still


here, can you explain it? You can't claim that the Palestinians


settlements are there. 30% unemployment, that is the figure


cited. Why is that? Is that because there are roadblocks every hour. Is


it because it is impossible for a Palestinian to establish their own


factory because they can't get permits in areas close to


settlements. Talking about the Palestinian olive oil industry is


collapsing because of the settlements. There may be many


imponderable. We are talking about this one concern, this one factory,


which as you have heard and well know employs Palestinians. You want


to see them chucked out, do you? We want to see the land returned to


those who threw them off the land. We want to see the return of the


land. Would you like to see that factory seize to employ Palestinians


or others? They could have an arrangement. What do you want? We


want the settlements to end. You want a factory shut down? You can't


operate factories and settlements and say the settlements are wrong.


Do you want the factory shutdown or not? We don't want the settlements,


they are illegal. Senator George Mitchell who brokered peace in


Northern Ireland, you are aware of his work. He was commissioned by


President Obama to broker peace in the Middle East, visited Sodastream


and said we are a glimmer of co-operation between them. There is


not a lot of light in this part of the world. You don't go back to


darkness if you can celebrate the light. This francly is a dream for


activists and politicians. Because we are proving that there can be


peace in the Middle East. I invited the Oxfam folk, they can all come


and see it before they shut it down. From the Prime Minister downwards,


or upwards, depending on your point of view. One member of the country's


officer class after another has condemned or been pious about the


fact that much of the London tube system has been shut down by a


48-hour strike, one scheduled for next week. We have lost the strike


habit over recent years, but the action by the RMT union, let by a


man photographed only days ago getting tanned on the beach in


Brazil is a which have of times past. In It would be bly cheap to


knock a man like Bob Crow for taking a holiday on the beaches of Brazil


just days before a major tube strike. That is the conclusion Boris


Johnson came to in his column, it wasn't so much the holiday but it


was the unions attempt to paralise. Grumpy recrimination, lost revenue


and grumpiness, much of it aimed at your man Bob, Bob and or Ritz


haven't met for five years. This morning they clashed on a live radio


show, each confusingly accusing the other of the same thing.. I can't


sit down and negotiate with you. I'm not askin When you are holding a gun


to Londoners' heads. You can't put a gun to your head? You are putting


the gun to the head. You served the notice on our unions. The


ammunition, bizarrely is a deranged shot at class war, with the old


Eatonian pointing out the inconsistencies of a trade unionists


living in a council house on a six-figure salary. He gets ?5,000 a


year, Boris Johnson gets ?143,000. A tube driver will make ?52,000 by


2015. The average wage for a London is ?32,800. The strike surrounds


jobs and ticket office closures. Bob accuse Boris of breaking his


election promise of promising not to close any one. Boris says things


have moved on. Old fashioned technology, six years ago when I


talked about closing the offices or not, the i phone wasn't invented. It


is brave man that asks what technology has done for the world,


perhaps Bob Crow is a different breed. Perhaps Camden Town doesn't


like as enticing as his holiday desanyone nation.


Aside from the discussion about the merits of Bob Crow's tan, the


question is, is his union just holding up the inevitable technology


with driverless trains and ticketless stations. Do you care


about the damage done to the economy of Lon by this strike? London


Underground relies on the economy and our members rely on working for


London Underground. The bigger the economy gets in London the more


people you use on London Underground. Making sure our jobs


are more secure. You don't care enough to call off the strike? We


do, we would love to call the strike off. Just do it then? But the point


is, what do we get out of it. We don't call strikes for the sake of


it. We call strikes because the employer doesn't take us seriously.


The tube staff realise if you are disabled or partially sighted it


will be more difficult to get a ticket. There is an argument that


all we are doing ask trying to keep somebody behind a ticket office


seing tickets, that is the not the case. You know the thing is


contactless travel and driverless trains? Technology is coming in, we


want to sit down and agree how the technology will be applied. We


support London Underground, we want to sit round a table, not to be told


that workers who have about 25, 30 years, heros when the vicious


terrorist attacks took place in London. You don't want to change


things, three months notice and get rid of the jobs. We are happy with


change, we have had change all our lives. We have been crying out for


change. How can you be crying out for change when you are opposing


change? We are not opposing change, we are imposing how it is


implemented. We might as well pack up a shop. If trade union can't ask


for safety in the work place to and from the work place, decent pay and


conditions, we might as well pack up. It has taken decades to get


legislation in place to make sure there is proper work places and this


crowd wants to take them all away. You know how it is going, great


unions, shadows of their former selves, even the Labour Party is


proposing the role of the unions and choosing of the leader. All across


the board, unions are in retreat, and unions like yours have very


little to look forward to? I think we do so, we are not members of the


Labour Party, those in the Labour Party ask him, our membership has


gone up from 53,000 to 81,000. That was in the last 12 years. The


railways is another technology. A new technology will come in, you buy


a new television and it is fantastic, but six months older it


is old. We don't go around the place and say because the central heating


is coming in we still want chimney sweepers. Houses are being built out


chimneys, you turn the chimney sweets into central engineers. That


is what we are doing, that is what we say about the underground. If a


still isn't there we use the stils and diversify. I just wonder if you


look at it you see the future of work and the marginalised role of


trade unions in many areas of life. Don't you feel you belong in a


different time? No I belong in 2014. You are a dinosaur? At the end of


the day that was around for a long while. People join a trade union, in


our view they do for one thing and one thing only, job secretary, being


safe, best possible pay and conditions, decent conditions and


world of peace. If we are not -- If we don't put it on the agenda, who


will, who will be the people on the street to hold its banner for us if


the trade unions don't hold it. To a story that almost seems too unlikely


to be true. A fishermen sets off from the Mexican coast but gets lost


at sea. Over a year later and thousands of miles away, the


fisherman turns up on the Martial islands in the Pacific. He claims to


have survived by drinking turtle blood and his own urine. We join a


film maker on the trip. Do you believe him? In a word, yes. I can


say categorically when he first waed up on the shore and I heard the


story I was very sceptical. Having seen him and talked to him


yesterday. Having filmed him getting off the boat. I really think this


man went through on ordeal, you described some of the issues he had


being at sea for so long. This is not somebody working an agenda or


perpetrate a host. This is a simple fisherman from Mexico who has spent


a long time at sea and has an incredible tale to tell. What sort


of shape was he in? When he got off the boat some of the people saw the


images that I shot and thought this guy looks big and healthy. How could


he have been at sea. The issue had, he was very bloated and his face was


bloated and his arms and hands were bloated. To me he didn't look


healthy. He had a big baggy shirt on that made him look heavy. When we


went a filmed him yesterday after the hospital overnight, the IVs,


fluids, and being back in civilisation with people who you


talk to. He started to go from the survival mode, which I imagine he


was in for a long time, to OK, I'm back to reality I have to start


thinking about myself and my future. You could see him. Even over the


course of the interview, just his mentality changed and he seems in


pretty good spirits but on the other hand he can't believe what he was


just going through. His original story of going off on a fishing


trip, I believe, wasn't it with a friend were is the friend? What


happened is he told us the story and this got jumbled around in the


media. He told it to us directly from his own lips yesterday. They


had been at sea for about four months. He had a young man with him.


He's not really sure of the young man's age, 15-17 years old, what


they had been doing to that point, survive, they were beating raw


birds, a lot of the diet was raw birds or a turtle if it was bumped


up on the boat and they would eat it raw. Occasionally they would catch


fish. Every time this young man would go to eat one of the young


birds he would vomit and couldn't do T he was having a lot of time eating


any kind of raw food. After a while we refused. Eventually he died, and


according to Jose he flipped him off to boat and put him to sea after he


died. When talked about this particular event in the interview.


You could see the remorse come over his face. This was something that


was starting to sink in the reality of his downhy. He started when he


would talk about this young man, it was a really hard thing to talk


about. There is quite a lot of excitement in the music world at


present with the success of African artists. Million Pound Girl has been


in the charts for many years. The performer is Fuse, British of


Ghanaian descent. What is happening with the popularity of African music


goes further than tunes or dancing. Fuse ODG or "on the ground"


performing this dance in the clubs of Ghon and brought it to the UK.


The sound known as Afrobeat, draws on the music of west Africa. The


track represents a turning point, when Ghana's streets is as


influential on British culture as hip hop in the UK. His next track,


antenna took him mainstream, it reached the top ten last year. It


stands for "this is the new Africa". Fuse OD doesn't just want to change


the way people move but transform the way we see Africa. Fuse is here,


what is all this stuff about transforming the way we see Africa?


I grew up in the UK, I did primary school in Ghana and secondary school


in the UK and university. Growing up in the UK, Africa wasn't perceived


in such a good way. I took a trip back to Africa a few years ago, my


experiences were completely different from what I had seen on


TV, how my peers actually saw Africa. I just wanted to share my


experience. Africa is at? Conrad Heart of Darkness, it is familiar


anyone, corruption, it issups it is things not working, you say there is


another picture people have missed? There is so much people have missed.


When I land in Africa, the feeling I get, when in Africa. It is such an


amazing feeling it annoyed me I was in the UK and this kind of feeling


wasn't portrayed on the TVs or the radio. So toing it annoyed me I was


in the UK and this kind of feeling wasn't portrayed on the TVs or the


radio. So to me I'm sharing my music about Africa, there is poverty and


things, but it is important to get the balance right. The media don't


show the balance, especially when I was growing up. Is this feeling of a


different kind of Africa, are people outside the African community


beginning to understand that. Through the music we are making the


of a toe beat. I performed at the MOBOs and I won an award. I let


people know that Africa is not all that, the media is showing there is


a different side to that. At Stamford university I shared my


experience of Africa and not just about Africa but outside, me and


African people. Their ideas on how to become reinvested back in. Are


there white kids who want to be African? A white girl's phone rings


and the tune is praying on the phone. Things have changed and the


feeling proud to be really proud of who you are. What does it stand for


on your hat? "This is new Africa", showcasing it through music,


businesses, fashion, just there is so many different factors that the


media never showcased when I was growing up. We are going to hear


you. Don't talk for too long. I like talking. We want to hear you play.


If you get ready for that,ly give some very -- I will give some


interesting newspaper headlines. Yeah, the Telegraph, bigger council


tax rise forced by Liberal Democrats.


# You move like the wind # The way you put it on and off love


# I want to come and give you my ring


# My girl roll with a kick # She can give you everything


# My girl roll with a kick # Like a singer


# My girl is roll with a butter # I can give you everything


# My girl roll with a kink # Every good man needs a Queen


# I like it when you put it on # When you put it off


# You always stay ahead like the hoodie army


# I won't leave you lonely # Go and put it on


# When put it on I'm really good # The hoodie army I like the way


that you doing your thing # You doing your thing


# All my pain off on the ground # You done move like the wind. ,


evening, another stormy


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