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Last night's promise of peace just one of the casualties of what looks | :00:15. | :00:19. | |
like war. The White House has expressed its outrage, EU leaders | :00:20. | :00:24. | |
have agreed sanctions, but with blood on the streets already what | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
can they really achieve, as the turmoil spreads far beyond the | :00:29. | :00:33. | |
capital. Should buying sex be illegal? We can reveal an important | :00:34. | :00:37. | |
group of British politicians think so. But other countries are relaxing | :00:38. | :00:42. | |
the rules. We report from Europe's biggest brothel. Do you enjoy it as | :00:43. | :00:48. | |
a job? When you have nice men, of course. When you don't? Then I'm | :00:49. | :00:54. | |
also not so friendly. The fallen Queen of the tabloid starts to tell | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
her story. Brooks Brookes Rebekah Brooks begins her defence in the | :01:03. | :01:08. | |
hacking trial. After David Bowie's game-changing intervention in the | :01:09. | :01:11. | |
Scottish independence debate. We are joined by the man who fell to the | :01:12. | :01:23. | |
Newsnight studio or kind of. Good evening, 75 demonstrators are | :01:24. | :01:28. | |
dead. Nearly 70 policemen have been taken hostage. This is not just a | :01:29. | :01:32. | |
battle for the Ukrainian capital's main square, but a violent fight for | :01:33. | :01:36. | |
the future of a country that now feels on the edge of war on the edge | :01:37. | :01:43. | |
of Europe. The White House is angry, the EU trying tough diplomacy, but | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
no-one seems to have a clear idea of how to stop the fighting. Gabriel | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
Gatehouse in Kiev is there for us tonight. He has been on the streets. | :01:54. | :02:01. | |
As you would expect his report has disturbing images. | :02:02. | :02:18. | |
The truce didn't last long. This morning Kiev again awoke to the | :02:19. | :02:28. | |
sound of gunfire. A small group of protestors was trying to retake | :02:29. | :02:40. | |
ground (gunfire) They were met by sniper fire with deadly results. She | :02:41. | :03:00. | |
has just said there are six dead people up there, not just injured, | :03:01. | :03:09. | |
dead. They have been hit by snipers. Some of the demonstrators pulled | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
back, dragging their injured comrades to safety, under a hail of | :03:14. | :03:26. | |
bullets fired by Government forces. The fighting has moved up, as they | :03:27. | :03:34. | |
tried to retake some of the territory taken off them by the | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
police some days ago. These are the injured and the bangs remember | :03:38. | :03:45. | |
hearing is real gunfire. The nearby Hotel Ukraine, where we and other | :03:46. | :03:49. | |
journalists were saying turned into a makeshift triage centre. One of | :03:50. | :03:53. | |
the first to be brought in was this man. Is there an exit wound? He had | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
taken a bullet through the thigh. Easy. Another lay on the floor of | :04:00. | :04:05. | |
the lobby, bleeding profusely from his foot. The priest's services were | :04:06. | :04:13. | |
not required, both of these men survived. We left the hotel and | :04:14. | :04:18. | |
ventured up towards the new frontline. The majority of the | :04:19. | :04:27. | |
gunfire seemed to be coming from police lines. But not all of it. | :04:28. | :04:37. | |
From one of the upper windows of the hotel, a shot rang out. Up there, | :04:38. | :04:46. | |
our hotel. That window, fifth row from the left, second from the top, | :04:47. | :04:51. | |
one that was open. I saw the shooter, he was wearing one of the | :04:52. | :04:57. | |
protesters' green helmets. The number of people injured today must | :04:58. | :05:01. | |
have reached well into the hundreds. They just kept on coming, some still | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
defiant as they were stretchered off. At the same time fresh | :05:07. | :05:12. | |
protestors came forward to man the new barricades. TRANSLATION: We | :05:13. | :05:19. | |
broke through police lines right here says, it was our initiative, | :05:20. | :05:29. | |
they are unpredictable. So are we. The Mayor of Kiev announced he was | :05:30. | :05:32. | |
joining the opposition and invited the police force to join him. It is | :05:33. | :05:36. | |
not clear if any have taken him up on that offer. In other parts of | :05:37. | :05:39. | |
Ukraine, especially the west, there are reports that security forces are | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
refusing to follow orders to crack down on the protesters. You have to | :05:44. | :05:48. | |
be careful, of course, with comparison, but we have seen this | :05:49. | :05:53. | |
happen in other countries. Peaceful demonstrations eventually turning | :05:54. | :05:58. | |
violent. Look at that up there, that was the headquarters of the | :05:59. | :06:03. | |
protestors, until it was ransacked, firebombed and now it is smoking | :06:04. | :06:09. | |
remains. This is no longer just a protest movement, this is becoming a | :06:10. | :06:14. | |
rebellion. And the question now is how much further both sides are | :06:15. | :06:19. | |
prepared to push this. This afternoon two armoured personnel | :06:20. | :06:24. | |
arriers were parked just beyond the new frontline. The Interior Minister | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
said police would be issued with firearms. On Independence Square | :06:30. | :06:33. | |
protesters were busy clearing the beenbury left behind in the -- | :06:34. | :06:36. | |
debris left behind in the areas newly captured from the authorities. | :06:37. | :06:40. | |
Judges by the hundreds of cartridges they found, there is already no | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
shortage of guns. Very west visited the office of the mayor, the one who | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
said he had defected to the opposition. He was nowhere to be | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
seen. But the place is full of demonstrators, resting, recharging | :06:53. | :06:57. | |
their batteries, waiting for the next battle. These people too are | :06:58. | :07:11. | |
armed. Sergei told us his men had captured 30 police officers this | :07:12. | :07:15. | |
morning, confiscating their weapons and ammunition. His colleague, | :07:16. | :07:20. | |
Mariam told me how he helped to seize the officers. TRANSLATION: | :07:21. | :07:28. | |
They got a beating from us. I won't lie. But then we delivered them to | :07:29. | :07:33. | |
the protest authorities, they will decide their fate. I asked him and | :07:34. | :07:37. | |
his comrades whether they were worried that the protest was turning | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
to conflict? They all agreed this is already war. Gabriel joins us now | :07:42. | :07:48. | |
from his hotel in central Kiev. Appalling violence today, it has | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
gone way beyond protest. Is it revolution or is it war? Well this | :07:53. | :08:00. | |
afternoon we saw eight bodies of the dead laid out on the street, the | :08:01. | :08:04. | |
overwhelming initial reaction, I think, was shock, and grief. People | :08:05. | :08:09. | |
pouring in to pay their respects and ask why is this happening. But of | :08:10. | :08:13. | |
course with every death the bitterness and the division grows. | :08:14. | :08:17. | |
And if you look across Ukraine you see in the west more protests, | :08:18. | :08:22. | |
Government buildings being taken over. One local governor being | :08:23. | :08:26. | |
hauled out of his offices and handcuffed to the front. In the east | :08:27. | :08:32. | |
traditionally thought to be more Russian-facing, we heard a local | :08:33. | :08:35. | |
governor talking about a clampdown on those who undermine state | :08:36. | :08:43. | |
authority. In the Crimea, other statements. This feels like a real | :08:44. | :08:47. | |
threat of Civil War. It is not there yet. Sometimes it feels on the | :08:48. | :08:51. | |
streets of this capital like the talks of division of split are a | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
little bit overdone and that one thing that many Ukrainians have in | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
common, they often say they just want to live together in a country | :08:59. | :09:03. | |
free from corruption. And briefly, the diplomatic machine is now being | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
cranked up in the west. But does that even feel relevant where you | :09:07. | :09:12. | |
are? On the streets I have to say it feels very irrelevant, just briefly | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
to tell you what's happened. Both Russia, the US and the EU have said | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
they have come together to try to broker a solution, but then you see | :09:21. | :09:23. | |
the divisions there and the diplomatic game. The EU and the US | :09:24. | :09:27. | |
introducing sanctions against those they see as responsible for the | :09:28. | :09:31. | |
violence. Russia saying that this is an attempted coup on the streets, as | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
said, people finding this utterly irrelevant, they say they just want | :09:37. | :09:40. | |
to get rid of the Government. Thank you very much indeed. As was | :09:41. | :09:45. | |
suggested the unrest has not been confined to Ukraine's capital, but | :09:46. | :09:49. | |
spreading right across the country. Protests have also rocked cities in | :09:50. | :09:53. | |
the broadly pro-western regions of the country. In Lutsk, the governor | :09:54. | :10:00. | |
appointed by President Yanukovych was seized by anti-Government | :10:01. | :10:05. | |
protesters and frog marched in handcuffs to stage in the city's | :10:06. | :10:08. | |
main square, after he refused to resign. Here protestors set fire to | :10:09. | :10:13. | |
the local headquarters of the Government security forces and took | :10:14. | :10:16. | |
control of several Government buildings. And in this area, | :10:17. | :10:23. | |
anti-Government forces stormed the local Security Services building. | :10:24. | :10:28. | |
But in the broadly pro-Government east of Ukraine there were few signs | :10:29. | :10:36. | |
of unrest. In fact, in the city of Donetsk a group of miners set off to | :10:37. | :10:41. | |
Kiev to support the Government beleaguered forces. Joining us in | :10:42. | :10:45. | |
the west of the country is a student activist and one of the protesters. | :10:46. | :10:50. | |
Thank you for joining us, is the Kiev Government in charge where you | :10:51. | :10:55. | |
are? Good evening to you. I wouldn't be you know, I don't want to say | :10:56. | :11:04. | |
this because we are ready to support every single sane idea and every | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
single sane instruction that comes to us. But whenever lately, | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
especially we have been instructed in such an utter horrible | :11:14. | :11:20. | |
instructions, you know, we didn't obey that. So I can say the | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
Government is in charge, I can't say that, I have to say people are in | :11:27. | :11:31. | |
charge. If the Government refuses to budge and leave, how long will you | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
keep on protesting, how long will you keep on fighting? Till we reach | :11:35. | :11:40. | |
our end. There is no other choice for us. The choices are either this | :11:41. | :11:46. | |
Government goes down and the, actually somebody hears the voices | :11:47. | :11:49. | |
of the people, or we're just going to stand there until it happens, | :11:50. | :11:54. | |
that's it. Does that mean war? Not necessarily, no. At the moment let's | :11:55. | :12:00. | |
say in my city we are having a civilian police controlling the | :12:01. | :12:03. | |
public and not allowing any more violence. So we're not, we want to | :12:04. | :12:09. | |
be peaceful. We want to stand until something has changed. With us now | :12:10. | :12:15. | |
are Alexander Nekrassov a former Kremlin adviser and Robert Brinkley | :12:16. | :12:18. | |
who was the British ambassador in Ukraine. Firstly to you Robert, you | :12:19. | :12:23. | |
know this country very well, is it slipping into Civil War? I don't | :12:24. | :12:27. | |
know if we can yet call it "Civil War", but there is clearly very | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
serious protests. The pictures in the film earlier were horrifying | :12:32. | :12:34. | |
what is happening in Kiev, a city I know well and love. Which was a | :12:35. | :12:38. | |
peaceful city, even through the orange revolution when there was | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
half a million people out on the streets for weeks on end. Then there | :12:42. | :12:43. | |
was no bloodshed. Now very different. So there is a civil | :12:44. | :12:48. | |
conflict, but the actual conflict and the fighting is still confined | :12:49. | :12:52. | |
in a very small area of the capital city. But we have seen how it is | :12:53. | :12:54. | |
spreading across the country. Alexander Nekrassov is there a real | :12:55. | :13:01. | |
risk here of civil war? Of course there is, the problem is the so | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
called opposition has been hijacked by radicals who are now arming the | :13:05. | :13:09. | |
followers. What I find strange to be honest with you is we have seen the | :13:10. | :13:12. | |
report by your correspondent, why didn't he talk to the other side. | :13:13. | :13:16. | |
Why didn't he talk to any official in Kiev and ask him what is going on | :13:17. | :13:21. | |
the other side. Why didn't we see any dead policemen. I have seen | :13:22. | :13:26. | |
footage on the Russian media where a group of protestors beat a policeman | :13:27. | :13:30. | |
to death with bricks. Now why don't you show this for once. Because you | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
are always showing these protesters as if they are some freedom | :13:35. | :13:39. | |
fighters. We have seen very clearly the Ukrainian security forces using | :13:40. | :13:44. | |
AK-46s on people in the streets. We don't know, we are not sure if they | :13:45. | :13:47. | |
are armed but it was clearly very serious violence. And in the west of | :13:48. | :13:51. | |
the country are you calling that girl a violent radical? I'm talking | :13:52. | :13:55. | |
about the people who are armed snipers and shooting at everybody. | :13:56. | :13:59. | |
The problem is that when you say the police were armed, they did not have | :14:00. | :14:04. | |
any live ammunition until the protesters, the "protestors" because | :14:05. | :14:09. | |
they are basically insurgents if they are armed, they started | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
shooting and killing policemen. On Tuesday it was announced that 25 | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
people were dead, nobody bothered to say that 12 were policemen. This is | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
very biased. Is he right about that? Well, certainly there was some | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
policemen among the dead on Tuesday. Can I say that all violence in this | :14:25. | :14:30. | |
situation is to be condemned, whoever is responsible for it. But | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
the fact is that the vast majority of the protesters have been | :14:35. | :14:37. | |
peaceful. There has been a small number, a couple of hundred, a few | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
hundred maybe who have engaged in violence in the last couple of | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
weeks. That is reprehensible, it is not to be cone doned. But the | :14:47. | :14:51. | |
Government, President Yanukovych has had three months to try to resolve | :14:52. | :14:55. | |
this situation. And they have let it fester and that's why the | :14:56. | :15:09. | |
radicalisation has grown. G Putin go along with this violence? I think | :15:10. | :15:13. | |
Putin and the whole leadership are worried and anxious about this | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
situation growing and growing and turning into civil war. Let me point | :15:18. | :15:23. | |
out another thing, before the Ukrainian Government and the | :15:24. | :15:25. | |
Ukrainian President refused to sign that agreement with the EU, no-one | :15:26. | :15:30. | |
in the west was criticising him, no-one was talking about corruption | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
in the Ukraine. He suited them. The moment he said we're not going to | :15:36. | :15:39. | |
sign this, suddenly everything changes. You are disagreeing? I have | :15:40. | :15:44. | |
to disagree with that, Yanukovych, well before this has had a very bad | :15:45. | :15:49. | |
reputation for corruption, for enriching himself and his family. | :15:50. | :15:52. | |
That is why he's so desperately unpopular in the country. And what | :15:53. | :15:57. | |
started off as a protest out of shock that the Government had | :15:58. | :16:00. | |
suddenly done a U-turn on the association agreement with the | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
European Union very quickly turned into major protests against | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
Yanukovych. What we are seeing now is these protests right across the | :16:07. | :16:11. | |
country, would Russia ever tolerate part of the Ukraine, the west, | :16:12. | :16:15. | |
breaking away and splitering off? It is very difficult to say now. | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
Because we snowed to resolve this situation -- need to resolve this | :16:21. | :16:34. | |
situation first. We are seeing at the protesters go and take orders | :16:35. | :16:38. | |
from America. Do you have evidence of that? On Monday all the prisoners | :16:39. | :16:42. | |
who were arrested during the violence were released. Immediately | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
a provocation is organised on Tuesday near the parliament building | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
and they started attacking the parliament building. How does that | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
happen? Who gives these orders, and explain to me one thing that I would | :16:53. | :16:56. | |
love to ask your correspondent, how is it that peaceful or semi-peaceful | :16:57. | :17:02. | |
unarmed protesters are with standing attacks by armed police. This I | :17:03. | :17:06. | |
don't understand. Ambassador is that even vaguely plausible that some how | :17:07. | :17:11. | |
this is being masterminded by EU leaders like America? I don't find | :17:12. | :17:14. | |
it plausible at all. What happened on Tuesday was that the opposition | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
were expecting the parliament to start debating reform to the | :17:20. | :17:24. | |
constitution to remove some of the additional presidential powers which | :17:25. | :17:27. | |
Yanukovych has given himself. Instead Yanukovych's party said | :17:28. | :17:30. | |
there would be no debate on that. We must leave it there, thank you very | :17:31. | :17:35. | |
much indeed for coming in. You Newsnight has seen the final report | :17:36. | :17:39. | |
from a group of MPs that will say buying sex should be against the law | :17:40. | :17:44. | |
in England and Wales. That would follow Sweden, Norway and soon | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
France where the clients of prostitutes are considered | :17:49. | :17:52. | |
criminals. But other European countries are going in the opposite | :17:53. | :17:55. | |
direction, legalising the trade. In a moment we will ask which route we | :17:56. | :18:01. | |
should take, but first Germany has the most liberal laws. It has been | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
very good for a certain kind of business. We have been allowed to | :18:06. | :18:09. | |
film inside Europe's biggest brothel. And a warning, there are | :18:10. | :18:13. | |
images of nudity from the very start of this report. | :18:14. | :18:27. | |
This is the result of an experiment, one its critics say has gone badly | :18:28. | :18:38. | |
wrong. In 2002 Germany legalised the buying and selling of sex. The 16 | :18:39. | :18:43. | |
billion euro industry is now dominated by so called megabrothels | :18:44. | :18:52. | |
like this. Paradise in Stuttgart is the largest of its kind, at a cost | :18:53. | :18:57. | |
of ?5 million, it is home to 80 women and hundreds of male customers | :18:58. | :19:02. | |
every night. The sex trade here is so out in the open, it can feel a | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
bit uncomfortable, even shocking at first. But large brothels like this | :19:08. | :19:11. | |
have now spread across cities in this country. The decision to relax | :19:12. | :19:16. | |
prostitution laws in 2002 was meant to make life safer for sex workers, | :19:17. | :19:21. | |
critics say it has just made Germany into the bored Dell low of Europe. | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
-- bordello of Europe. Most of the people here didn't want to appear on | :19:27. | :19:31. | |
camera. But the brothel said 22-year-old Hannah would speak to | :19:32. | :19:35. | |
us. She has been working in the sex industry for two years, sleeping | :19:36. | :19:39. | |
with five other six men a night. I started at 6.00 and finish 3.00 in | :19:40. | :19:46. | |
the morning, and it is OK. I can say no when I don't like. I can search | :19:47. | :19:52. | |
what like. I don't have to do anything that the men like, I do | :19:53. | :19:55. | |
what I want. How much could you earn, or how much could a girl in | :19:56. | :20:00. | |
general earn in one night? Totally depends. So you can make from | :20:01. | :20:09. | |
100-1,000 euros, it depends on it. 1,000 euros a night? When you have | :20:10. | :20:15. | |
luck, it can be, but not often. If prostitution was banned in Germany, | :20:16. | :20:20. | |
if these places didn't exist, would you still work as a prostitute? No. | :20:21. | :20:30. | |
Then it is not safe. So you wouldn't work at all in that area? No, it is | :20:31. | :20:35. | |
really too dangerous, too many crazy people. Do you enjoy it as a job? | :20:36. | :20:40. | |
When I have a nice man, of course. When you don't? Then I'm also not so | :20:41. | :20:48. | |
friendly. This is a good thing. You don't have to be every time | :20:49. | :20:52. | |
friendly. These are working rooms, can you look inside here, very nice | :20:53. | :20:56. | |
rooms. By treating it as a job like any other, the idea was to price | :20:57. | :21:00. | |
women away from the pimps that run the trade. Sex workers can now pay | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
into social security and demand health insurance. But, partly as a | :21:05. | :21:09. | |
result of the new law, the number of prostitutes in Germany is thought to | :21:10. | :21:13. | |
have doubled to 400,000. Most of the women here are from Eastern Europe, | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
countries like Romania and Bulgaria. Critics say the policy has led to a | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
rise in trafficking, as girls are shipped in to meet demand. The | :21:23. | :21:29. | |
people who own and run large brothel chains strongly deny that's the | :21:30. | :21:30. | |
case. Does it also increase prostitution | :21:31. | :22:03. | |
in general in Germany having places like this? | :22:04. | :22:21. | |
Germany now has the most liberal prostitution laws in Europe. It is | :22:22. | :22:28. | |
one of handful of countries alongside the Netherlands to have | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
legalised the profession. In the UK the buying and selling of sex is | :22:32. | :22:35. | |
technically legal, but brothels, kerb crawling and solacetation are | :22:36. | :22:39. | |
all against the law. At the other end of the spectrum, Sweden, Norway | :22:40. | :22:45. | |
and Iceland, they are selling sex legally, instead it is the man | :22:46. | :22:50. | |
paying for it who is punished with a heavy fine and prison. The same | :22:51. | :22:53. | |
Swedish model is being considered by Northern Ireland and six other | :22:54. | :22:56. | |
countries. Most notably France where legislation is going through | :22:57. | :23:06. | |
parliament model is being considered by Northern Ireland and six other | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
countries. Most notably France where legislation is going through | :23:09. | :23:10. | |
parliament. When the new law goes through it means everyone in France | :23:11. | :23:12. | |
could get a fine, where a few hundred metres over there | :23:13. | :23:15. | |
prostitution will be legal. Both countries are going in completely | :23:16. | :23:18. | |
different directions when it comes to tackling exploitation and the sex | :23:19. | :23:32. | |
trade. For some that is a clear business opportunity. On the | :23:33. | :23:37. | |
outskirts of the city workers are busy on the new Paradise Brothel. | :23:38. | :23:43. | |
The sixth the chain has built across Austria. From next month 80 women a | :23:44. | :23:47. | |
night will work in the 30 or so private rooms here. | :23:48. | :23:58. | |
Critics will say what they are trying to do in France is protect | :23:59. | :24:02. | |
women there. What you are doing is quite a cynical way to exploit a | :24:03. | :24:05. | |
change in the law. But if the idea behind legalisation | :24:06. | :24:27. | |
was to drag the industry into the light, then here that hasn't | :24:28. | :24:31. | |
happened. There are a number of regulated brothels here, but on a | :24:32. | :24:34. | |
cold Friday night there are still young girls working the streets. The | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
city's left-wing mayor supported the decision to relax prostitution law, | :24:41. | :24:43. | |
she has firmly changed her mind. But for the moment the EU appears | :24:44. | :25:27. | |
split down the middle on the sex trade. Next month a parliamentary | :25:28. | :25:32. | |
inquiry in the UK will recommend we reject legalisation and officially | :25:33. | :25:37. | |
criminalise the buying of sex for the first time. Whichever direction | :25:38. | :25:41. | |
Europe follows, whether it is the liberal, German or strict Swedish | :25:42. | :25:46. | |
approach, that could decide the way thousands of women and men are | :25:47. | :25:50. | |
treated for decades to come. Joining me now are Laura Lee a sex worker | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
and spokes person for the Internationl Union of Sex Workers. | :25:57. | :26:00. | |
Dr Belinda Brooks-Gordon, author of The Price of Sex, Dorcas Erskine, | :26:01. | :26:04. | |
who works with traffiked women, and Mary Honeyball a Labour MEP who | :26:05. | :26:07. | |
campaigns in Brussels on just this issue. Welcome to you all. Laura | :26:08. | :26:12. | |
Lee, firstly to you, just to be completely clear about this, men pay | :26:13. | :26:16. | |
you for sex, that's been your career for many years? Yes, they do. Men | :26:17. | :26:21. | |
indeed pay me for sex, I have been a sex worker now for just under 20 | :26:22. | :26:25. | |
years. I love my job. I truly do, and I don't believe I'm quit the | :26:26. | :26:28. | |
different from the vast majority in saying that. The current proposals | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
that are on the table really concern me because it seems to me that it | :26:34. | :26:37. | |
will create a police state, because when consenting adults are having | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
sex that is none of the state's business. But when you see the rules | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
relaxed so far that there is that kind of warehousing of sex, like in | :26:46. | :26:50. | |
that megabrothel, what do you make of that, would you be happy to work | :26:51. | :26:54. | |
somewhere like that? Personally speaking would I be happy to work in | :26:55. | :26:59. | |
a megabrothel, yes. I'm not saying the sex industry is for everybody | :27:00. | :27:03. | |
necessarily, it is my choice and I love what I do and the same can be | :27:04. | :27:07. | |
said for many of my colleagues. My big concern with the current push | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
going on is the voices of sex workers have not been heard or | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
consulted. Belinda Brooks-Gordon you also believe the rules should be | :27:15. | :27:18. | |
relaxed to such an extent that sex businesses should even pay tax, be | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
formalised like that? That is the circumstance in Austria and | :27:24. | :27:27. | |
Switzerland, you never hear problems of those states. What is interesting | :27:28. | :27:32. | |
is areas where it is very prohibited, Thailand, Jamaica, it is | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
actually more visible. We should treat it like any other business | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
like selling bread and milk down the shops? Not like any other business. | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
For example the situation in Germany is that people can't be made to go | :27:45. | :27:49. | |
into that business in the labour exchange, for example. And the | :27:50. | :27:52. | |
client can't enforce the contract. But the sex worker can if he doesn't | :27:53. | :27:57. | |
pay. Mary Honeyball nice bit of cash for the Treasury? It doesn't work | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
quite like that in Germany. There are about 400,000 women who work in | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
prostitution across Germany. They are supposed to have access to | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
healthcare, be able to claim benefits and all those sorts of | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
things that Belinda talked about. They don't, at the last count only | :28:14. | :28:18. | |
44 out of those 400,000 had actually done that. So it isn't nice money | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
for the Treasury. You have to ask why those women working in | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
prostitution doesn't actually come forward and take advantage of what | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
the state claims that they will give them. Many of them, Dorcas Erskine, | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
like Laura here said they made a choice to do this for a living. Do | :28:34. | :28:37. | |
you have a problem with the choice they make, a problem with the choice | :28:38. | :28:42. | |
that Laura has made? No with respect to lawyer a she seems happy with the | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
choice she made. She doesn't represent the vast majority of | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
people in prostitution, please don't interrupt me. I believe laws are | :28:54. | :28:58. | |
made not to protect the minority who are fine but the majority who are | :28:59. | :29:01. | |
not. Even people who do not agree with our stance on prostitution, I | :29:02. | :29:08. | |
quote research from someone who is very verdant about our stance on | :29:09. | :29:11. | |
prostitution that they did for the Home Office. They noted most of the | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
women they interviewed had entered prostitution at the age of 13 years | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
old. That 78% of them were in the care system and that a lot of them | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
also came from migrant backgrounds. Those are people who are vulnerable. | :29:25. | :29:28. | |
And I don't believe that making a choice of very limited economic | :29:29. | :29:32. | |
choices is the best that we can offer women in those vulnerable | :29:33. | :29:39. | |
states. I believe that as soon as Eton and Cheltenham ladies | :29:40. | :29:43. | |
colleagues put on the curriculum that prostitution is available for | :29:44. | :29:47. | |
everyone to do for every social class and race and economic | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
background, then let's talk about choice but we are not there yet. Are | :29:51. | :29:56. | |
you saying that sex work and legal class doesn't exist? I'm not, I'm | :29:57. | :30:00. | |
saying the majority of women who work in it are women who are from | :30:01. | :30:04. | |
these socioeconomic backgrounds. That is not what the evidence says. | :30:05. | :30:12. | |
Actually the evidence does that. We can pinpoint back and forth about | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
this and that research. On the wider issue, the wider issue is. Research | :30:17. | :30:23. | |
is important. Why should sex be... . Why is it for you to tell her what | :30:24. | :30:28. | |
to do for a living? I'm not. Which is why I respect the Swedish model | :30:29. | :30:33. | |
which Mary is putting forward. I really do not believe, and it really | :30:34. | :30:37. | |
annoys me that the state criminalises women in prostitution, | :30:38. | :30:40. | |
especially when they come from these backgrounds. I believe we need to | :30:41. | :30:44. | |
look at criminalising the buyer. The Swedish model where the client | :30:45. | :30:48. | |
becomes the criminal, but Laura? I'm not speaking from research or | :30:49. | :30:52. | |
papers, I'm speaking from 20 years of on the ground absolute experience | :30:53. | :30:56. | |
in the sex industry. As to your not representative argument, I have | :30:57. | :31:00. | |
worked in five-star Penthouse apartments down to what could be | :31:01. | :31:03. | |
reasonably described as a chicken coup and everything inbetween, I | :31:04. | :31:08. | |
have met some very, very desperate women in those circumstance, but to | :31:09. | :31:11. | |
criminalise the buyer of the sex act is not the way forward. You need to | :31:12. | :31:18. | |
hit the traffickers. 1,140 women in our organisation have been trafficed | :31:19. | :31:21. | |
your experience can't be the only voice to hear. Whether you like the | :31:22. | :31:25. | |
idea of prostitution or not, whether you want to accept it or not, and | :31:26. | :31:28. | |
many people do not understandably, isn't it better however to have | :31:29. | :31:32. | |
women inside a place of business where they are safe, where they are | :31:33. | :31:36. | |
inside and not having the trade pushed to dark corners in unsafe | :31:37. | :31:40. | |
parts of our cities? I would like to challenge the dark corpers idea. If | :31:41. | :31:46. | |
the buyer is criminalised the woman who is not the criminal can come | :31:47. | :31:51. | |
forward. On the trafficking issue, there is good evidence from Sweden, | :31:52. | :31:55. | |
gathered by the Swedish police that trafficking has actually halved in | :31:56. | :31:58. | |
Sweden since the law was introduced there in 1999ue, there is good | :31:59. | :32:17. | |
evidence from Sweden, gathered by the Swedish police that trafficking | :32:18. | :32:19. | |
has actually halved in Sweden since the law was introduced there in | :32:20. | :32:21. | |
1999. I think that Swedish model with the criminalising of those | :32:22. | :32:26. | |
buying the sex has brought a drop. Are you saying there is something | :32:27. | :32:30. | |
wrong with having sex. Purchasing or paying for sex would not be | :32:31. | :32:34. | |
considered by many people? What is the subtle difference between | :32:35. | :32:39. | |
consenting adults behind closed doors having transactional sex, and | :32:40. | :32:54. | |
it is sometimes just time. Let her finish and I will bring you in. The | :32:55. | :33:00. | |
Poppy Project have a vested interest. Rather than a row over the | :33:01. | :33:04. | |
statistic, finish your point. You used to think all sorts of things | :33:05. | :33:08. | |
were acceptable, like accepting children up chimneys are acceptable | :33:09. | :33:14. | |
and slavery acceptable, why continue now forever to think it is | :33:15. | :33:19. | |
acceptable? It is only sex and only earning money. The average sex | :33:20. | :33:24. | |
worker will earn over ?50,000 a year, 85% of the sex workers | :33:25. | :33:31. | |
according to the academic they ary. -- theory. On that point, it is only | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
sex it is only money what is so wrong with that? I guess the | :33:37. | :33:39. | |
formulation of that argument is to make it seem like we're | :33:40. | :33:45. | |
conservative, we're quite puritanical, but I don't see what's | :33:46. | :33:49. | |
conservative about saying that sex should be free. I haven't finished | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
and I also don't see what's conservative about believing that we | :33:56. | :33:59. | |
want a society as they are producing in Sweden where men can feel they | :34:00. | :34:03. | |
don't have to purchase sex on the backs of those who are vulnerable, | :34:04. | :34:08. | |
what a radical conservative idea. If it was going forward, what | :34:09. | :34:12. | |
difference would it make to you, if your clients are criminal? Let's | :34:13. | :34:16. | |
bear in mind I work with a lot of disabled clients, guys who are in | :34:17. | :34:19. | |
dire, dire circumstances, not that I'm saying that entitles them to | :34:20. | :34:25. | |
sex, I'm inviting the viewer to take a different view. What an insulting | :34:26. | :34:30. | |
view. Don't talk across of me. Section 39 effectively says the | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
police can come and kick my door in to investigate the fact I'm having | :34:35. | :34:40. | |
consensual sex behind closed doors. Really quickly very briefly on | :34:41. | :34:46. | |
legislation? In the European Parliament not yet. The point is you | :34:47. | :34:48. | |
legislate for the majority. The majority of women who work in | :34:49. | :34:54. | |
prostitution have either been traffiked or have been coming out of | :34:55. | :34:57. | |
care. It is not free choice. There is clearly huge dispute over the | :34:58. | :35:00. | |
numbers and strong views on all sides. We must leave it there, thank | :35:01. | :35:04. | |
you all very much indeed for coming in. | :35:05. | :35:09. | |
Thank you. The life story could be perfect tabloid fodder itself. A | :35:10. | :35:12. | |
girl done good, from sweeping the floors and making the tea at the | :35:13. | :35:17. | |
Warrington Guardian, to one of the most powerful newspaper editor jobs | :35:18. | :35:20. | |
in the land. But the unfortunate twist of the hacking scandal landed | :35:21. | :35:24. | |
Rebekah Brooks in the witness box today, as the defence case began, | :35:25. | :35:27. | |
the judge ordered the jury to acquit her of one of the charges she faced. | :35:28. | :35:31. | |
The one relating to the procurement of pictures of Prince William at | :35:32. | :35:36. | |
Sandhurst. With all that information we have this report. | :35:37. | :35:41. | |
She's best known as one of the most powerful and influential women in | :35:42. | :35:44. | |
the country. Can we have it down for a bit now. Editor of Britain's two | :35:45. | :35:49. | |
biggest-selling tabloids, personally close to prime ministers and a | :35:50. | :35:54. | |
favourite of global media mogul, Rupert Murdoch. But that was then. | :35:55. | :35:59. | |
Today at the Old Bailey, after months of prosecution evidence, | :36:00. | :36:03. | |
Rebekah Brooks finally got the chance to tell her story. The | :36:04. | :36:09. | |
opening exchanges with her QC, John lap Laidlaw, produced lots of the | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
kind of colour, as they call it in the trade, that might well have | :36:15. | :36:18. | |
graced the newspapers that Rebekah Brooks used to. She was born in | :36:19. | :36:26. | |
Cheshire in 1968, an only child she looked after two aged grandparents. | :36:27. | :36:32. | |
She was state educated, her father a gardener, her mother a PA. When she | :36:33. | :36:37. | |
was 21 they split. But she said she had already caught the journalism | :36:38. | :36:41. | |
bug from her grandmother. My grandmother she was a writer, she | :36:42. | :36:45. | |
wrote a lot of poetry and wrote a protestity column for a local | :36:46. | :36:48. | |
number. The idea probably stemmed from her. From a Saturday job at a | :36:49. | :36:54. | |
local paper e owned by newspaper entrepeneur Eddie Shah, to London | :36:55. | :36:59. | |
and the News of the World magazine, and in no time to the features | :37:00. | :37:03. | |
department which she became head of at the age of 26. She described for | :37:04. | :37:06. | |
the jury a very male newsroom culture. Dominated by internal | :37:07. | :37:11. | |
competition. It was also standard practice, she said, for the news and | :37:12. | :37:15. | |
features departments to each keep records of mistake, errors and other | :37:16. | :37:19. | |
Sunday drew information about the other. And so it was Rebekah Brooks, | :37:20. | :37:24. | |
told the court, that the news department had stories about her. | :37:25. | :37:35. | |
That they had labelled "twit 1", "twit 2", "4, 5, 6" and so on. She | :37:36. | :37:42. | |
described it as old school misogyny. But she did well. She brought the | :37:43. | :37:50. | |
paper Gazza's shock confession to domestic violence and the interview | :37:51. | :37:56. | |
with Divine Brown, the prostitute ought in action with Hugh Grant. It | :37:57. | :38:02. | |
cost $250,000, money spent in part to stop colleagues from the Sun and | :38:03. | :38:08. | |
Mail to get to her. It did Rebekah Brooks's helpcation bosses no harm | :38:09. | :38:17. | |
at all. Rupert Murdoch began to take a personal interest, promoting her | :38:18. | :38:21. | |
from features editor to deputy editor at the Sun, a big move | :38:22. | :38:25. | |
considering she had no daily newspaper experience Bach to the | :38:26. | :38:31. | |
Mirror editor, she was 32 years old. It is accepted that at that time | :38:32. | :38:35. | |
significant amounts of phone hacking were going on at the News of the | :38:36. | :38:44. | |
World, and some people have already pleaded guilty. Rebekah Brooks said | :38:45. | :38:49. | |
she didn't even know the name of Glenn Mulcaire. With 125 editions in | :38:50. | :38:56. | |
her two-and-a-half years as editor, 200 stories a week, and double that | :38:57. | :39:03. | |
discussed at some point: It is impossible to know every source of | :39:04. | :39:07. | |
every story because of the sheer volume of material coming into the | :39:08. | :39:11. | |
paper. Which, along with much of the rest of what her QC took her through | :39:12. | :39:16. | |
today will no doubt be a key plank of her defence, to the broad thrust | :39:17. | :39:19. | |
of the prosecution case that she simply must have known what was | :39:20. | :39:25. | |
going on. All the defendants deny all of the charges against them. Now | :39:26. | :39:30. | |
it was meant to be a bit of friendly advise to take a look at what could | :39:31. | :39:36. | |
be a matter of life and death. An e-mail published today revealed the | :39:37. | :39:39. | |
Medical Director of the NHS in England told his counterpart in | :39:40. | :39:43. | |
Wales that death rates in six Welsh hospitals ought to be investigated. | :39:44. | :39:48. | |
Sir Bruce Keogh described the figures as "worrying". Similar types | :39:49. | :39:54. | |
of data provided the vital clues as to what was going appallingly wrong | :39:55. | :39:58. | |
at Stafford Hospital. But the Welsh authorities say so far there is no | :39:59. | :40:01. | |
need to make further inquiries, whatever the data, some Welsh | :40:02. | :40:04. | |
families believe they have been badly let down. Our policy editor | :40:05. | :40:13. | |
has been to meet one of them. There was birth and condition, if you want | :40:14. | :40:18. | |
to put it that way it was a result of the birth, subsequently his death | :40:19. | :40:22. | |
was, and because he died in the situation around it the coroner had | :40:23. | :40:26. | |
ordered an inquest. Which no parent should have to sit through. Noah | :40:27. | :40:33. | |
Tyler died ten months old in December 2011. A coroner as | :40:34. | :40:38. | |
described his dead to a gross failure in the care provider to him | :40:39. | :40:44. | |
and his mother Colleen Tyler at the University Hospital of Wales in | :40:45. | :41:01. | |
Cardiffder to him and his mother Colleen Tyler at the University | :41:02. | :41:03. | |
Hospital of Wales in Cardiff. When she was born she was upstairs and he | :41:04. | :41:06. | |
was put on a cooling mat to stop brain-damage. He had tubes and wires | :41:07. | :41:13. | |
going in and out of everywhere. That is what the birth of Noah. His is | :41:14. | :41:19. | |
just one of the cases that have contributed to high death rates | :41:20. | :41:24. | |
among the hospitals' patients. Now a senior medical official who has just | :41:25. | :41:28. | |
completed a review of 14 low-performing hospitals in England | :41:29. | :41:33. | |
wants an inquiry. Sir Bruce Keogh, Medical Director of NHS England, | :41:34. | :41:37. | |
wrote to his counterpart in Wales to suggest that he too should hold a | :41:38. | :41:41. | |
similar investigation. Sir Bruce said that there are six hospitals in | :41:42. | :41:45. | |
Wales, including University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff that show | :41:46. | :41:50. | |
persistently high mortality rates. The letter itself is receipt weeks | :41:51. | :41:55. | |
ordinary. Sir Bruce, an official with responsibility in England, | :41:56. | :42:00. | |
takes direct issue with the quality of care in Wales. He said that those | :42:01. | :42:08. | |
hospitals with poor mortality warranted investigation. He admitted | :42:09. | :42:12. | |
he was worried about the political implications of that. Mortality | :42:13. | :42:15. | |
statistics need to be treated with caution, but they can highlight | :42:16. | :42:23. | |
serious problems. It was mortality numbers that first highlighted the | :42:24. | :42:27. | |
hor roughically poor levels of care in Staffordshire. The Conservative | :42:28. | :42:32. | |
MP who uncovered Sir Bruce's e-mail says Wales has failed to learn the | :42:33. | :42:35. | |
lessons of that strategy. It is particularly appalling because it is | :42:36. | :42:39. | |
so reminiscent of what we saw with mid-staffs, instead of saying good | :42:40. | :42:44. | |
niece me what should -- goodness me what should we do with this data to | :42:45. | :42:47. | |
make sure there is a problem. The reaction is there is nothing wrong | :42:48. | :42:51. | |
with the data, nothing to see, carry on. Sir Bruce's letter also drew | :42:52. | :42:56. | |
attention to the difference between NHS performance in England and in | :42:57. | :43:00. | |
Wales. Almost half of all Welsh patient wait longer than six weeks | :43:01. | :43:07. | |
for an MRI scan. In England fewer than 1% do. More than 10% of recent | :43:08. | :43:13. | |
Welsh Accident and Emergency patients were kept waiting for | :43:14. | :43:18. | |
longer than four hours, in England the equivalent number was under 5%. | :43:19. | :43:23. | |
The NHS in England is very different to the NHS in Wales. Where as | :43:24. | :43:27. | |
England has tried to drive up performance by using private | :43:28. | :43:32. | |
providers, lots of data and lots of targets, Wales has largely kept to a | :43:33. | :43:36. | |
rather old fashioned centralised form of management. The real | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
question is whether that's now going to have to change? For today | :43:40. | :43:46. | |
ministers are fending off Sir Bruce's critque. They say that they | :43:47. | :43:51. | |
do not believe an inquiry is necessary. But others disagree. I | :43:52. | :43:59. | |
hope and I pray that they will do something and they will look into | :44:00. | :44:03. | |
it, because I can't get Noah back, my husband and I will have to one | :44:04. | :44:08. | |
day explain to our son why his Big Brother isn't here. We have to live | :44:09. | :44:13. | |
with that and the people that have lost their loved ones also they | :44:14. | :44:23. | |
can't get them back. But it kind of takes away any positive meaning that | :44:24. | :44:27. | |
comes from our loss, if they aren't even willing to look into it and | :44:28. | :44:31. | |
make changes and to call it unnecessary. It is just a slap in | :44:32. | :44:38. | |
the face as far as I'm concerned. With us tonight from Cardiff is the | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
Welsh Health Minister Mark Drakeford. Thank you very much for | :44:43. | :44:45. | |
joining us. Firstly, just to be clear, when your health service gets | :44:46. | :44:50. | |
an e-mail from Sir Bruce Keogh, that's something worth paying | :44:51. | :44:53. | |
attention to isn't it? And it was, it received very clear attention and | :44:54. | :44:58. | |
very proper attention too. So when he, the most senior doctor in NHS | :44:59. | :45:04. | |
England says six of your hospitals ought to be investigated, why on | :45:05. | :45:07. | |
earth would you not launch an investigation? Well that is | :45:08. | :45:10. | |
absolutely not what he said. And your report has very badly | :45:11. | :45:15. | |
misrepresented Sir Bruce's e-mail, as well as being very badly | :45:16. | :45:19. | |
factually flawed in a number of the assertions it has made. Mr Drakeford | :45:20. | :45:24. | |
may I quote you the e-mail, and I quote directly, "I'm worried about | :45:25. | :45:28. | |
the broader political implications of the data, there are six hospitals | :45:29. | :45:34. | |
with a persistently high mortality which warrants investigating". He | :45:35. | :45:38. | |
goes on to say he hasn't been able to do his own checks on the data. | :45:39. | :45:42. | |
But he says "again it would seem sensible to investigate". On whose | :45:43. | :45:48. | |
planet is it not worth at least taking a second look at this? Not on | :45:49. | :45:54. | |
our planet, certainly, because we do take a second look. You are | :45:55. | :45:58. | |
absolutely wrong to assert that we did not. Had you gone on and read | :45:59. | :46:02. | |
the rest of that e-mail you would have found Sir Bruce saying that he | :46:03. | :46:06. | |
didn't have data to validate, he didn't have data that bore out the | :46:07. | :46:11. | |
data that had been passed to him. He was giving it to us to say it's | :46:12. | :46:16. | |
worth investigating. We did. We published our mortality data every | :46:17. | :46:21. | |
quarter, it showed the mortality rates in Welsh hospitals have | :46:22. | :46:25. | |
improved quarter on quarter. Is Sir Bruce happy now with what is | :46:26. | :46:29. | |
happening. He says clearly in this e-mail, despite the fact he has bent | :46:30. | :46:34. | |
been able to check the -- he hasn't been able to check the data it | :46:35. | :46:37. | |
warrants investigation. It seems sensible to investigate. Are you | :46:38. | :46:41. | |
saying he was wrong and is he happy now? I think I have explained to you | :46:42. | :46:44. | |
three times that we have investigated the data, and data is | :46:45. | :46:48. | |
published for everyone to see. It is published every three months. Is Sir | :46:49. | :46:53. | |
Bruce satisfied then? It is not for Sir Bruce to be satisfied or | :46:54. | :46:56. | |
otherwise. Sir Bruce has no part to play in the Welsh NHS. Nor was he | :46:57. | :47:01. | |
claiming to have one. He wasn't claiming it was up to him, but you | :47:02. | :47:04. | |
established it was worth paying attention to what he has to say. He | :47:05. | :47:10. | |
very properly passed on information that had been passed to him, saying | :47:11. | :47:13. | |
to us that he thought we ought to look at it. We did exactly that. So | :47:14. | :47:18. | |
you have concluded after what you are saying was an investigation, | :47:19. | :47:21. | |
even though you apparently have officially refused to have an | :47:22. | :47:24. | |
investigation that there is absolutely categorically no problem | :47:25. | :47:27. | |
here in your view. You are saying that on the record? You are mixing | :47:28. | :47:30. | |
up several things, you are asking me to agree to an assertion of yours, | :47:31. | :47:34. | |
which I certainly won't. I'm asking you to respond to the quote directly | :47:35. | :47:42. | |
from Sir Bruce Keogh? You give me a chance and I will do that. I have | :47:43. | :47:47. | |
become coldly furious of the constant misrepresentation of the | :47:48. | :47:49. | |
condition of the health service in Wales. A misrepresentation that is | :47:50. | :47:53. | |
deeply politically manipulated and driven. Here in Wales we take data | :47:54. | :47:59. | |
very seriously. If we are passed data we investigate that data. We | :48:00. | :48:04. | |
have done so in relation to mortality figures. They show quarter | :48:05. | :48:09. | |
after quarter that mortality levels in Welsh hospitals have improved. | :48:10. | :48:13. | |
Does that mean that everything is as it should be? Of course not. Does it | :48:14. | :48:18. | |
mean there is not more we could do? Of course there is, but does it mean | :48:19. | :48:23. | |
that there is some deep crisis in the Welsh NHS? Absolutely certainly | :48:24. | :48:34. | |
not. OK, well, Welsh Health Minister thank you for answering questions | :48:35. | :48:36. | |
tonight. That is nearly all from us. As we showed you last night, David | :48:37. | :48:40. | |
Bowie used the Brit Awards to channel a message to the people of | :48:41. | :48:43. | |
Scotland, via Kate Moss. Imploring them not to leave the UK. So today | :48:44. | :48:49. | |
Alex Salmond channelled some David Bowie into First Minister's | :48:50. | :48:52. | |
questions. I'm sure the whole chamber will want to join me in | :48:53. | :49:01. | |
congratulating eve Muirhead in winning the bronze medal in the | :49:02. | :49:04. | |
winter Olympics. That is a demonstration that we all can be | :49:05. | :49:11. | |
heros just for one day! How might the coolest rock unionist respond to | :49:12. | :49:16. | |
that, only one to find out, ladies and gentlemen, Newsnight presents, | :49:17. | :49:25. | |
Mr David Bowie. Or close enough. # It's a God awful small affair | :49:26. | :49:33. | |
# But I want you to know I care # Major Tom is begging you know | :49:34. | :49:42. | |
# And Ziggy doesn't you to go # Even though I am nowhere to be | :49:43. | :49:48. | |
seen, # Us Because I live the American | :49:49. | :49:52. | |
dream # They won't let you join the EU | :49:53. | :49:57. | |
# There will be no pound in Aberdeen # Cameron might be a saddening bore | :49:58. | :50:07. | |
# You but he's no Salmond # If we switch we will be like fools | :50:08. | :50:14. | |
# I ask you to stay with a Scotland # Stick with us I urge you | :50:15. | :50:21. | |
# Oh man I just don't want you to go # Better together you know | :50:22. | :50:28. | |
# Please don't take Andy Murray # He's just as much our guy | :50:29. | :50:35. | |
# Scotland wonder if you'll ever know | :50:36. | :50:41. | |
# You're in a best-selling show # Don't put Fife on Mars | :50:42. | :50:51. | |
Good evening, after a chilly night and maybe even a touch of frost in | :50:52. | :51:01. | |
place, Friday is going to be a bright day for most of us with | :51:02. | :51:07. | |
occasional showers and they will be heavy, hail and thunder as | :51:08. | :51:08. |