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Mysterious, deadly and terrifying. What is the Ebole virus? The current | :00:00. | :00:12. | |
outbreak is suspected of killing at least 87 people in Africa in the | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
most horrific way imaginable. How did it happen? | :00:17. | :00:23. | |
The virus is its worst enemy because it is a virulent virus. It kills | :00:24. | :00:27. | |
people soon after infection and doesn't really have a chance to | :00:28. | :00:32. | |
transmit from person to person. And this... Dream of owning a home, | :00:33. | :00:37. | |
but need a little help? Introducing Help to Buy a new Government scheme | :00:38. | :00:40. | |
for people like you. Help to Buy celebrates its first | :00:41. | :00:43. | |
birthday with a dangerously overheating housing market. We'll | :00:44. | :00:48. | |
ask the Housing Minister if he is relaxed about that. | :00:49. | :00:53. | |
What do UKIP councillors do for their day jobs? In the corner of the | :00:54. | :00:58. | |
Fens that will be forever England, we discover what happens when UKIP | :00:59. | :01:03. | |
gets a whiff of power. And from Ukraine, performers and | :01:04. | :01:10. | |
protestors, the Bloom Twins. # You can fool some people sometimes | :01:11. | :01:18. | |
# You can fool all the people all the time # | :01:19. | :01:26. | |
Don't shake hands. Don't kiss and definitely don't have sex. The | :01:27. | :01:34. | |
public health advice in one of the countries affected is strict. | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
Understandably, for the outbreak of Ebola virus infections in West | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
Africa is the stuff of horror movies. No one knows quite how it | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
first strikes, but it seems to come from out of the jungle and may be | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
related to eating bushmeat. There is no known cure and a high proportion | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
of victims die terrible deaths as blood pours from their veins and | :01:58. | :02:01. | |
then from their bowels and bladders, mouths and noses. Some cry blood. | :02:02. | :02:07. | |
All are in great pain. Suspected cases have been found in Sierra | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
Leone and Liberia, but the majority including 83 deaths in the current | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
outbreak have been concentrated in poverty-stricken, thug-infested | :02:14. | :02:14. | |
Guinea. Jim Reed reports. This simple is one of the most | :02:15. | :02:30. | |
deadly. Discovered the Ebola virus can kill nine out of ten of those | :02:31. | :02:34. | |
unlucky enough to catch it. And for the first time, it has been found in | :02:35. | :02:39. | |
the West African nation of Guinea. Dozens of staff from Medecins Sans | :02:40. | :02:42. | |
Frontieres are now on the ground trying to contain this outbreak. The | :02:43. | :02:46. | |
medical charity is calling it unprecedented in scale. | :02:47. | :02:52. | |
What is really worrying doctors is the spread in this case. Normally | :02:53. | :02:57. | |
contained in remote villages, it has moved into larger towns. 55 have | :02:58. | :03:02. | |
died and 11 people have been infected in the port and capital. | :03:03. | :03:08. | |
There are seven suspected cases in neighbouring Liberia and health | :03:09. | :03:11. | |
authorities fear it may have spread to Sierra Leone to the south, | :03:12. | :03:16. | |
Senegal has closed its land border to all traffic. When Ebola hits it | :03:17. | :03:23. | |
is in an isolated village and this is good and bad. For the people | :03:24. | :03:27. | |
there, this means almost certain death because there is little chance | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
that any medical care can get in there, but it has, it contains the | :03:32. | :03:37. | |
virus to some extent. In the urban areas of Guinea, we are talking | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
about the one capital city, probably a quart of the people in the country | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
live there and they live in den site. Ten meters there would be | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
someone else in the capital. It is easy to be in close contact and we | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
need close contact to transmit the viruses. Ebola was identified in | :03:59. | :04:06. | |
1976 in a remote part. The virus is common in bats, antelopes and | :04:07. | :04:12. | |
monkeys. It may have spread to human with close contact with animals, | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
probably through the bushmeat trade. When someone is infected, they stand | :04:16. | :04:20. | |
little chance of survival. After a week-long incubation period, there | :04:21. | :04:25. | |
are flu-like symptoms and vomiting and diarrhoea and internal bleeding. | :04:26. | :04:29. | |
When humans are infected they become very sick and many times they die | :04:30. | :04:33. | |
and they transmit it maybe to a family member too, but the family | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
stays away. They know that something is wrong and tran mission stops -- | :04:37. | :04:40. | |
transmission stops. When a virus gets into a hospital setting, and | :04:41. | :04:45. | |
practises are not as they should be when needles are not sterilised | :04:46. | :04:49. | |
properly and when health workers are careless, it can spread to health | :04:50. | :04:53. | |
workers and to other patients and from those patients and health | :04:54. | :04:56. | |
workers out to family members and into the community. So hospitals | :04:57. | :05:02. | |
really amplify the transmission of this virus in a setting where | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
practises are not what they should be. This Ebola virus is emerging | :05:06. | :05:11. | |
from a cell. This disease is so deadly that scientists describe it | :05:12. | :05:15. | |
as its own worst enemy, killing infected patients before it can be | :05:16. | :05:21. | |
passed on. There is no cure. And no working vaccine. Right now, though, | :05:22. | :05:26. | |
the main thing that's stopping a vaccine or more development is it is | :05:27. | :05:31. | |
economic. These outbreaks are happening in a part of the world | :05:32. | :05:34. | |
where there is not a lot of money and there isn't a bit | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
pharmaceuticals and it mate cost hundreds of -- may cost hundreds of | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
millions of pounds to develop a vaccine, who is going to spend that | :05:44. | :05:46. | |
money and how are they going to get it back? It is something that not | :05:47. | :05:51. | |
one company, but the world needs to tackle in one go. The World Health | :05:52. | :05:54. | |
Organization said today it is too early to call this an epidemic and | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
the main area of infection remains localised. In Guinea, buckets of | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
disinfectant stand outside family homes and airlines have cancelled | :06:05. | :06:08. | |
flights. For millions, in parts of West Africa, the fear of this | :06:09. | :06:13. | |
individual suss is as -- virus is as contagious as the illness itself. | :06:14. | :06:21. | |
With me are Paul Goa Zoumanigui, Guinea's ambassador to the UK, | :06:22. | :06:24. | |
Professor Jeremy Farrar, Director of the Wellcome Trust and one of the | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
world's leading figures in the field of infectious diseases and in | :06:29. | :06:30. | |
Brussels is Meinie Nicolai, President of Medecins Sans | :06:31. | :06:35. | |
Frontieres in Belgium. Her team are in Guinea trying to contain the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
epidemic. Jeremy Farrar, what is it that's so uniquely frightening about | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
this particular virus? Well, it started off in 1976 in | :06:46. | :06:56. | |
Sudan and since there has been 2200 cases across Africa of which 200 | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
people died. The infection rate is high and that's frightening and it | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
spreads between families. It spreads as we have heard, it is amplified in | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
hospitals. It is difficult to control and it is an incredibly | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
nasty, infection with a high mortality. | :07:15. | :07:17. | |
Ambassador, why has it been difficult for your Government to get | :07:18. | :07:21. | |
on top this outbreak? Well, first of all, thank you for inviting me for | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
this. Thank you for coming. I would say that it is difficult because we | :07:29. | :07:37. | |
have not experienced deaths. This is the first time deaths are occurring | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
in Guinea and we needed assistance from partners. So far that has been | :07:41. | :07:47. | |
done by partners, WHO, Medecins Sans Frontieres, UNICEF and so on and the | :07:48. | :07:53. | |
Red Cross, of course. The Government is doing all its up most to overcome | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
the crisis and through the cord nation with the international -- | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
co-ordination with the international community and through local means | :08:03. | :08:06. | |
too. Let's speak to Meinie Nicolai now. | :08:07. | :08:10. | |
What can you offer a patient? We heard this is a very, very dangerous | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
virus. What can you offer somebody who is already ill with the virus? | :08:18. | :08:24. | |
Yes, what we do, we care for the patient. So there is no cure for the | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
moment. So we don't have medication that will kill this virus. What will | :08:29. | :08:34. | |
happen in communities, people are so afraid of it that they may even | :08:35. | :08:37. | |
abandon people who have the disease. So what we do, we take care of the | :08:38. | :08:44. | |
person. We isolate him or her from other patients in a hospital setting | :08:45. | :08:48. | |
we make a separate unit and then we try to comfort the patient, treat | :08:49. | :08:53. | |
the symptoms, the fever, the pain, rehigh drayed and we should not -- | :08:54. | :08:58. | |
rehydrate and we should not forget, not all die. Some will survive and | :08:59. | :09:02. | |
we give psychological support because when you know you have this | :09:03. | :09:05. | |
disease, you are conscious about it and you know you may well die. So we | :09:06. | :09:12. | |
try to help the patient in dignity, but it is very difficult. Is it | :09:13. | :09:16. | |
easy, it is dangerous for the doctors and nurses, of course, as | :09:17. | :09:20. | |
well, isn't it? Is it hard to get people to go to treat to patients in | :09:21. | :09:24. | |
this condition? Well, strangely enough we always | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
attract people to who are willing to lead with us, we don't have | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
difficulties to find people. You are right, it is dangerous for the | :09:34. | :09:36. | |
people we send out. So what we do, we train them here in Brussels | :09:37. | :09:41. | |
before they leave. We have built up a large experience as the ambassador | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
said, it is the first time it comes to Guinea, MSF treated in ten cases | :09:47. | :09:54. | |
or more. So we have built up an expertise, we have trained the | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
people beforehand. We give them protective material and what you | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
need is discipline. You need to be disciplined to follow the procedures | :10:03. | :10:06. | |
from A to Z before you enter the room where the patient is when you | :10:07. | :10:10. | |
leave, what you do with the material, how you approach him, | :10:11. | :10:15. | |
extra. We -- etcetera, we train the people and we have good | :10:16. | :10:18. | |
collaboration with the Ministry of Health in Gaza Stripy. We train the | :10:19. | :10:27. | |
-- in Guinea. We train the staff to protect themselves. Professor Jeremy | :10:28. | :10:30. | |
Farrar, one can understand it is terrifying when you hear it like | :10:31. | :10:34. | |
that. But what do we know about where it comes from? It probably | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
comes from an animal reservoir. These are sporadic cases. We don't | :10:40. | :10:44. | |
see cases for many years and there is huge outbreaks as now in Guinea. | :10:45. | :10:50. | |
Probably fruit bats and primates within the forests of Africa and it | :10:51. | :10:53. | |
spills over. It is another of these examples of these an man -- animal | :10:54. | :11:03. | |
infection, we have seen it with bird flu. It is the link between humans | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
and animals and changing ecology, changing the way people live and the | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
viruses can jump across. Do you think it can be controlled | :11:11. | :11:18. | |
this outbreak? MSF have done over decades now, huge experience in | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
controlling outbreaks and you will be able to control this outbreak. | :11:22. | :11:28. | |
The mortality is very high. That doesn't help the virus go from one | :11:29. | :11:31. | |
person to another and it is tragic for the individuals, but it does | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
lead to the epidemic being controlled. It will ultimately be | :11:36. | :11:39. | |
controlled, but one of the features of this epidemic is the geographical | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
spread that we are seeing. We are seeing it more broadly than we have | :11:45. | :11:48. | |
seen before and we have cross-border of people and the migration of | :11:49. | :11:50. | |
people, movement of people is really important. | :11:51. | :11:54. | |
Why haven't you closed the borders, ambassador? I beg your pordon. -- | :11:55. | :11:59. | |
pardon. Why haven't you closed your borders? We haven't closed the | :12:00. | :12:05. | |
border and we rely on WHO there have not been any warnings for WHO for | :12:06. | :12:10. | |
closing any border. Of course, we are working with our neighbouring | :12:11. | :12:18. | |
countries and it has been raised in a meeting. It was the meeting of the | :12:19. | :12:22. | |
Council of Ministers on peace and security to see how to tackle this | :12:23. | :12:29. | |
disease and it was agreed that the entire community should work | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
together to tackle these diseases. I think there is no need for the time | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
being for the closing of the border. You are nodding in agreement, are | :12:42. | :12:47. | |
you professor? I would. Firstly, the borders are not that strictly, they | :12:48. | :12:52. | |
are very leaky. So closing officially borders, the informal | :12:53. | :12:56. | |
travelling cross borders would happen anyway. Closing borders in | :12:57. | :13:01. | |
infectious diseases gives you a false sense of security, I think. | :13:02. | :13:05. | |
From what we have heard about the way that the teams from Medecins | :13:06. | :13:08. | |
Sans Frontieres for example go about dealing with an outbreak like this, | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
it seems to suggest that it isn't really a risk in a different kind of | :13:15. | :13:21. | |
society, in a more advanced society, a more wealthy society where for | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
example hygiene practises are better in hospitals? | :13:26. | :13:29. | |
Sure. Infection control is crucial to stopping this epidemic, but I | :13:30. | :13:33. | |
think it would be wrong to suggest that this is just a disease and | :13:34. | :13:40. | |
others of a similar nature are problems of resource limited | :13:41. | :13:43. | |
countries. Let's look at other infections that come across from | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
animals. It is an infection that jumps species, isn't it? HIV jumps | :13:49. | :13:55. | |
from species and look what happened to IVF. This will be controlled | :13:56. | :14:01. | |
probably eventually by the local ministries of health and MSF, but it | :14:02. | :14:06. | |
is part of a wider context and that's the emergence of new viruses | :14:07. | :14:10. | |
and their ability to cross from animals and because of trade the | :14:11. | :14:12. | |
ability to travel between countries. Do you think that's a risk? As we | :14:13. | :14:25. | |
saw with is as, these infections will travel across borders. I don't | :14:26. | :14:30. | |
think it will be right to say this is a problem for Guinea. These are | :14:31. | :14:38. | |
global problems. Meinie Nicolai, I bet you would give your eyeteeth for | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
a vaccine wouldn't you? Of course. It would be fantastic. It is | :14:46. | :14:49. | |
difficult for our teams to work with the patients knowing that a lot of | :14:50. | :14:53. | |
them will die. We continue to do it, because dignity, caring for people | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
is very important, even if you know they will die. That remains as a | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
human aspect important in our work. And then to contain the epidemic. As | :15:02. | :15:07. | |
long as we don't have a vaccine or a real treatment, what we then do is | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
tracing the contacts of the patients. We have teams, outreach | :15:12. | :15:16. | |
teams, as soon as we have one patient we will go to his or her | :15:17. | :15:21. | |
village, see who were the family members, the neighbours and so on. | :15:22. | :15:26. | |
See if they develop fever. Follow them for at least three three weeks | :15:27. | :15:31. | |
and try to spot where new cases could happen, isolate them, care for | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
them. Hopefully they will cure, but the cure has to come from themselves | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
surviving the virus. In that sense, investing in hygiene measure | :15:42. | :15:45. | |
inspection the hospitals and the health centres in this case in | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
Guinea. That will be the measures we take. Safe funeral practices are | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
also important. Thank you very much all indeed. | :15:54. | :16:00. | |
Do you know what day it was today? It was the first anniversary of the | :16:01. | :16:03. | |
introduction of the Help to Buy scheme, the arrangement under which | :16:04. | :16:06. | |
the Government lends people money to buy houses or flats they otherwise | :16:07. | :16:09. | |
couldn't afford. It's undoubtedly been good news for some people. But, | :16:10. | :16:12. | |
bigger picture, as anyone who's tried to buy a new home in the last | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
year knows, many parts of this country are in the grip of such | :16:17. | :16:20. | |
surging house price inflation that people despair of ever affording to | :16:21. | :16:23. | |
own the roof over their heads. What's the connection between these | :16:24. | :16:24. | |
facts? Andy Verity reports. This is what Help to Buy was | :16:25. | :16:44. | |
supposed to do wasn't it? For families that can't raise a big | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
enough deposit homes no longer out of reach, even in Surrey. Demand for | :16:49. | :16:54. | |
homes in Godalming is so high that buyers buy before the house is | :16:55. | :16:57. | |
finished and move in before their street. After renting for 14 years, | :16:58. | :17:04. | |
this speech therapist can afford a three-bed house worth nearly | :17:05. | :17:10. | |
?500,000. Our daughter's just come along. You've got the extra costs of | :17:11. | :17:14. | |
childcare and things like that. It's been such a help so that we could | :17:15. | :17:19. | |
get into our own home, so Isla can have her own garden, her own room, | :17:20. | :17:25. | |
because she was in our room. With help from her mum and dad, Kate, | :17:26. | :17:30. | |
whose husband works for a hedge fund, can muster a ?25,000 deposit. | :17:31. | :17:39. | |
What would you say if I told you I would buy a fifth of it for you and | :17:40. | :17:43. | |
I wouldn't need any money back for five years? And even after that I | :17:44. | :17:48. | |
would only charge you 1. 75% above base rate? You would think I was | :17:49. | :17:53. | |
crazy. You wouldn't think I was giving awe loan on commercial terms, | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
but that's why we the taxpayer are doing for those taking up Help to | :17:58. | :18:01. | |
Buy. Analysis by Home Track shows what the first stage of Help to Buy, | :18:02. | :18:06. | |
the equity long, does to your buying power. Without Help to Buy a | :18:07. | :18:11. | |
household income of ?44,500 would buy you a home forth ?192,000. With | :18:12. | :18:16. | |
Help to Buy on the same income you could afford a new home of ?225,000, | :18:17. | :18:22. | |
the average price, so Help to Buy boosts your purchasing power by the | :18:23. | :18:27. | |
difference again of 17%. But since Help to Buy started, house prices | :18:28. | :18:32. | |
nationally have risen by between 8-9%, so half the gain from Help to | :18:33. | :18:36. | |
Buy has been wiped out. Another year like that and all that taxpayer help | :18:37. | :18:42. | |
for new homes won't have made them more affordable. It has helped a few | :18:43. | :18:47. | |
individuals, but that's more illusory, because it has helped them | :18:48. | :18:52. | |
buy a house that's more expensive than it would have been. It is | :18:53. | :18:59. | |
17,000 home homes now occupied because of Help to Buy. There's 9 | :19:00. | :19:03. | |
million people in the private rent rented sector who want to buy. | :19:04. | :19:07. | |
There's people struggling to pay their rent, eat and heat their | :19:08. | :19:13. | |
homes. Help to Buy isn't going to buy votes. God al al-Ming -- | :19:14. | :19:21. | |
Godalming. At this site three quarters of the homes sold were with | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
Help to Buy, but nationally only a fifth were. What's clear is the | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
supply of new homes isn't rising fast enough to keep up with the | :19:31. | :19:37. | |
number of new homes stimulated by Help to Buy. As long as demand | :19:38. | :19:43. | |
outstrip outstrips supply it will make them less affordable, not more. | :19:44. | :19:47. | |
Prices have been going up sharply across the country, 9-9%. That's an | :19:48. | :19:54. | |
indication that demand is rising faster than supply. Demand is | :19:55. | :20:03. | |
stimulated by low interest rates. Last year the number of new homes | :20:04. | :20:07. | |
went up by a third but it is far fewer than were built in the boom | :20:08. | :20:11. | |
and half what we need to meet demand. It is good growth and the | :20:12. | :20:16. | |
developers have responded well, but shortage of manpower and skilled | :20:17. | :20:21. | |
labour and building materials haven't helped. And, of course, the | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
biggest frustration is planning permissions. An economist will tell | :20:27. | :20:30. | |
you if demand for homes is outstripping supply and you don't | :20:31. | :20:34. | |
want prices to rise, you've got to curb demand, not stoke it. The worry | :20:35. | :20:39. | |
is that these policies have become self defeating and that because | :20:40. | :20:44. | |
there's so much demand in the housing market, prices are rising | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
much faster than income tax and taking housing out of the reach of | :20:48. | :20:50. | |
first-time buyers soft. All the schemes that are there to help are | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
being undone by the increases in house prices. It is the sort of fact | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
we are used to but maybe shouldn't be, that prices are now rising four | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
times faster than income tax. At that rate even the largesse of | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
taxpayers willing to buy a fifth of someone else's home won't stop more | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
families being priced out. The Housing Minister, Kris Hopkins, is | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
here. Are rising house price as good thing? They are certainly part of | :21:19. | :21:22. | |
the market and I want to correct some of the figures that were in | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
your VT there. First of all, house prices have gone up. At the end of | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
January 6. 8%, not 8-9%. If you take London and the South East out of, | :21:34. | :21:38. | |
that about 3. 8%, so the figures you've got there are slightly | :21:39. | :21:43. | |
distorted. In fact they are twice as much... But they are still rising | :21:44. | :21:46. | |
though. Sure. And that's a good thing? First of all you have got to | :21:47. | :21:54. | |
say where were we in 2008-2010? We are nowhere near those prices. So it | :21:55. | :22:00. | |
is a good thing? I think so. So you do think rising house prices are a | :22:01. | :22:04. | |
good thing? I've bought a house and I expect the value to rise and I am | :22:05. | :22:09. | |
sure you do as well. Would you like more new houses to be built? | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
Absolutely. The key thing about Help to Buy... You could just decree it. | :22:14. | :22:18. | |
I think I want to see more houses being built, and we are seeing more | :22:19. | :22:24. | |
houses being built. In London a 26-year high. Some of the figures | :22:25. | :22:28. | |
you chose in that package, there and you talked about very wealthy | :22:29. | :22:31. | |
individuals using Help to Buy, but the average house price on Help to | :22:32. | :22:36. | |
Buy, on the guarantee scheme, is ?145,000. That's on the equity | :22:37. | :22:41. | |
scheme only ?83,000, which is well below the average house price in | :22:42. | :22:44. | |
this country. You say you would like to see more houses being built. Yep. | :22:45. | :22:48. | |
And at the same time you are stoking demand? Well, we are not, because | :22:49. | :22:52. | |
the other aspect to this, if you look at Morgan Stanley's research, | :22:53. | :22:59. | |
fourth quarter on house sales, 0. 5% of those transactions with Help to | :23:00. | :23:05. | |
Buy, so 0. 5% of all the transactions that were undertaken in | :23:06. | :23:07. | |
the fourth quarter were associated with Help to Buy. What Help to Buy's | :23:08. | :23:12. | |
done is actually bought real houses out of the ground, 17,000 houses. 9% | :23:13. | :23:19. | |
of those are first-time buyers -- 89% of those are first-time buyers. | :23:20. | :23:25. | |
We are woefully short in supply. I agree with you. And you can see you | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
are stoking demand. The consequence of that is rising prices isn't it? I | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
don't agree we are stoking prices. But I agree we need more houses. | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
Well why not do something about it? Help to Buy is doing that. This | :23:40. | :23:43. | |
project is not just about homes but the jobs that come with it. 250,000 | :23:44. | :23:48. | |
jobs were wiped out of the construction industry. At the | :23:49. | :23:52. | |
moment, 28,000 depoz vets been put on these houses. 17,000 houses have | :23:53. | :23:59. | |
been bit. Every house is a job. 1,200 small and medium-sized | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
businesses supported is. How many houses do you think we should be | :24:04. | :24:07. | |
building per year? I don't want to put a figure on that. There was a | :24:08. | :24:11. | |
figure put on it ten years ago wasn't there? I've been in the job | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
since October last year. I've seen a range of figures from 200,000 to | :24:16. | :24:20. | |
260,000. What I do know is there's a huge demand out there and we need to | :24:21. | :24:24. | |
match that. Your lower figure there was 200,000. Yes. How many actually | :24:25. | :24:32. | |
are being built each year? About 120,000 at the moment. That's going | :24:33. | :24:37. | |
up all the -- all the time. The key thing is making sure that affordable | :24:38. | :24:40. | |
houses are being built, whether it is making sure we've got a planning | :24:41. | :24:44. | |
system that supports the building of houses. That's really important. | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
We've put 19. 5 billion pounds public and private money into making | :24:51. | :24:56. | |
sure affordable houses and 170,000 houses coming out. Ebbsfleet in | :24:57. | :25:01. | |
London, 69,000 houses on some of these large sites. Government is | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
focused on making sure this works. An important part of the economy. A | :25:06. | :25:08. | |
huge part of the construction industry overall, and making sure | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
that supply meets that demand is something we are absolutely summited | :25:14. | :25:17. | |
-- committed to do. Thank you. Pleasure. | :25:18. | :25:21. | |
The details of the most terrible catastrophe to occur at a British | :25:22. | :25:25. | |
sports ground were laid out today - just as vivid and and as troubling | :25:26. | :25:29. | |
as they've been on the many previous occasions on which attempts have | :25:30. | :25:31. | |
been made to understand how 96 people could be killed at a football | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
match. We're a fortnight away now from the 25th anniversary of the | :25:36. | :25:38. | |
tragedy, and the previous inquest verdicts of accidental death have | :25:39. | :25:41. | |
been overturned. The new inquest, being held in Warrington, is to be a | :25:42. | :25:44. | |
thorough re-examination. Peter Marshall was there. It will be the | :25:45. | :25:51. | |
longest inquest in British legal history. The jury was told today | :25:52. | :25:55. | |
after being sworn in, there are seven women and four men on the | :25:56. | :25:59. | |
jury. They were told by the coroner that it is not a criminal | :26:00. | :26:01. | |
prosecution, because an investigation is still going on in | :26:02. | :26:04. | |
parallel. They have to decide, their job is to decide how, where and when | :26:05. | :26:09. | |
individuals died, and whether opportunity were missed to save | :26:10. | :26:14. | |
lives. He said to them, he advised them on law but it was their | :26:15. | :26:19. | |
decisions that counted in tend. They had to reach their own conclusion on | :26:20. | :26:24. | |
the evidence they would hear. This would include what he called | :26:25. | :26:28. | |
harrowing accounts of the people that survived and moving accounts of | :26:29. | :26:32. | |
the bereaved. From a Victorian football stadium in Sheffield to a | :26:33. | :26:36. | |
brand-new purpose-built Coroner's Court in a Warrington business park. | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
It has taken 25 years but in the words of the coroner, Lord Justice | :26:41. | :26:48. | |
Goldring, the Hillsborough disaster seared into the memories of so many. | :26:49. | :26:53. | |
The original verdicts, accidental death, were quashed in 2012. Coroner | :26:54. | :26:58. | |
said this jury shouldn't be concerned with any of that. They | :26:59. | :27:01. | |
will consider the experiences of each of the 96. In terms of scale, | :27:02. | :27:06. | |
scope and nature, this is a test of the legal system and it is setting | :27:07. | :27:11. | |
precedents. A long-term campaigner would like what's happening here to | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
become a model for inquest law. We have a jury at this inquest which I | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
really think validates the process for both families and public | :27:21. | :27:24. | |
confidence that this important inconfess will be subjected to | :27:25. | :27:32. | |
independent scrutininy. You would rather there were more juries at | :27:33. | :27:41. | |
inquests? They can play an extraordinary important role, | :27:42. | :27:44. | |
particularly where there are worries of failing of state systems. She | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
noted the London bombings inquest had no secure are you but it will | :27:52. | :27:57. | |
set a press department repeated in Warrington. The bereaved give the | :27:58. | :28:02. | |
jury biographies of those they've lost. Arthur Horrocks was 4 3, his | :28:03. | :28:11. | |
son Jamie was nine. We get to told the court who my dad Warix what he - | :28:12. | :28:16. | |
what his prospects were, what he's missed out on in the past 25 years. | :28:17. | :28:21. | |
And you as a family as well? Most definitely. So you think that's a | :28:22. | :28:25. | |
good point about these inquests is it? Huge. James Aspinall was just | :28:26. | :28:31. | |
18. His mum, Margaret, said she would be too emotional to tell the | :28:32. | :28:35. | |
jury about James, so his brother, David, will do it. We shared the | :28:36. | :28:40. | |
same bedroom. We were very, very close. What are you going to say? | :28:41. | :28:50. | |
Well, I've got to give a character verdict of our James basically, some | :28:51. | :28:53. | |
of the fun ownership times we had, some of the bad times we had. | :28:54. | :28:56. | |
Anything to get his character across. Today the coroner began | :28:57. | :29:04. | |
outlining the case. He said the Chief Superintendent David | :29:05. | :29:07. | |
Duckenfield had only been put in charge less than three weeks before | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
the disaster. His speciality wasn't public order and he had never worked | :29:12. | :29:15. | |
at the stadium. Whether that was a sensible decision may be something | :29:16. | :29:19. | |
for you to consider. Describing how a terrible crushed developed in two | :29:20. | :29:23. | |
pens holding Liverpool fans, he said: | :29:24. | :29:37. | |
No one kept check on how many fans were going into the central stands. | :29:38. | :29:46. | |
There were some suggestion that the authorities were forewarned? | :29:47. | :29:49. | |
Liverpool fans on Leppings Lane, some of them reported they were | :29:50. | :29:52. | |
involved in a crush there. There was a crush on Leppings Lane at the | :29:53. | :29:55. | |
time. Yet the authorities thought that the operation was successful | :29:56. | :30:02. | |
and later modelled their plan for 1989 on the 1988 tie. And there were | :30:03. | :30:06. | |
comments about how some of the bereaved were treated? The jury were | :30:07. | :30:12. | |
told of the agonising process for relatives in the Hillsborough gym | :30:13. | :30:16. | |
where they were shown photos of all the dead and asked to pick out their | :30:17. | :30:20. | |
children or their brothers or sisters or their parents out of | :30:21. | :30:24. | |
that. They were denied the chance of holding or touching the bodies. Some | :30:25. | :30:30. | |
were asked about their loved one's alcohol consumption which left them | :30:31. | :30:36. | |
angry to this day. Half had no blood alcohol detected and others were | :30:37. | :30:39. | |
consistent with moderate social drinking. | :30:40. | :30:43. | |
Peter, thank you. Round two of the exhibition match | :30:44. | :30:46. | |
between the Deputy Prime Minister and the leader of the United Kingdom | :30:47. | :30:49. | |
Independence Party tomorrow night. Doubtless, Nigel Farage has been | :30:50. | :30:52. | |
practising his lines in the lounge bar of the Dog and Ferret tonight. | :30:53. | :30:55. | |
Whether he'll be repeating his declared admiration for Mr Putin | :30:56. | :30:59. | |
we'll see tomorrow. He can certainly take comfort from some recent polls. | :31:00. | :31:04. | |
But what is his fanbase. Who will vote UKIP? Emily Maitlis has been | :31:05. | :31:06. | |
trying to find out. Spring is in the air in | :31:07. | :31:14. | |
Cambridgeshire. And the marigolds are out. | :31:15. | :31:21. | |
There can't be many men who wear rubber gloves and a pinstriped suit | :31:22. | :31:26. | |
to clean a public loo, but Pete does, he is the local UKIP | :31:27. | :31:31. | |
councillor and he tells me he is here cleaning every day. I intend to | :31:32. | :31:36. | |
keep on carrying that public toilet. I love doing it for the community. | :31:37. | :31:39. | |
It is something where you can see people appreciate what you are doing | :31:40. | :31:43. | |
and we are keeping tax down for the local community and our hometown and | :31:44. | :31:47. | |
that's worth doing. For as long as I'm able to, I will keep cleaning | :31:48. | :31:51. | |
the public toilets here. If I become an MP I will continue to do it. | :31:52. | :31:56. | |
Peter and his partner, Lisa are seen as a power couple. She was UKIP's | :31:57. | :32:01. | |
first mayor. People will see me for who I am and UKIP is more than the | :32:02. | :32:06. | |
old man down the pub. Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, we were a party of older | :32:07. | :32:10. | |
men in playsers and white hair. -- blazers and white hair. That's | :32:11. | :32:14. | |
clearly not us. The couple are recognised wherever they go. Yes, | :32:15. | :32:17. | |
because they have put Ramsey on the map, haven't they? What do you think | :32:18. | :32:22. | |
of UKIP? Well, I'm going to vote for them this time. Who did you vote for | :32:23. | :32:27. | |
last time? Labour, but I think they have lost their way a little bit. | :32:28. | :32:31. | |
Joanne is a Ramsey resident and she is if you will forgive the tone, | :32:32. | :32:37. | |
part of a new UKIP demographic, not a disenchanted well off Tory man, | :32:38. | :32:41. | |
but a Labour voting retired woman. And it is this demographic that can | :32:42. | :32:47. | |
propel UKIP into a wider power base than they have had in the past. The | :32:48. | :32:52. | |
voters are the left behinds, they are financially disadvantaged and | :32:53. | :32:56. | |
pessimistic, they are low ka educated and very concentrated in | :32:57. | :33:02. | |
deprived areas, often Labour areas not just Conservative areas and they | :33:03. | :33:06. | |
are anxious over domestic issues like immigration and as they see t | :33:07. | :33:09. | |
the unresponsiveness of our politicians in Westminster. | :33:10. | :33:14. | |
Ramsey made living history in 2011 by becoming the first town in the UK | :33:15. | :33:18. | |
to be controlled by UKIP. Since then, they have had two UKIP mayors. | :33:19. | :33:24. | |
They like to think of this town as proof they can run things, not just | :33:25. | :33:27. | |
protest! Perhaps that's why out in the | :33:28. | :33:33. | |
battlebus you will barely hear them mention Europe or immigration. Here | :33:34. | :33:39. | |
it is kept local. Out canvassing with Ramsey's current | :33:40. | :33:43. | |
mayor, business is slow. The first three houses don't answer the door. | :33:44. | :33:49. | |
At the fourth, the resident explains rather graphically what he would do | :33:50. | :33:55. | |
with a UKIP poster. Perhaps he doesn't realise Pete | :33:56. | :33:57. | |
cleans toilets in his spare time anyway. At the next few houses, they | :33:58. | :34:04. | |
strike gold. They tell me the town turns purple at election time and it | :34:05. | :34:08. | |
is not just the more keting material that debts -- marketing material | :34:09. | :34:11. | |
that gets everywhere. There is something on the present about UKIP | :34:12. | :34:16. | |
in Ramsey, they clean the loos and patrol the streets and issue | :34:17. | :34:20. | |
on-the-spot fines to vandals at chucking out time on a Friday night. | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
It adds up to an old-fashioned sense of the village bobby on the beat. | :34:25. | :34:32. | |
There is a paternalistic hand on your shoulder wherever you turn and | :34:33. | :34:36. | |
some locals find this rather troubling. They are good and clever | :34:37. | :34:38. | |
at driving around in their big purple and yellow bus. He cleaned | :34:39. | :34:45. | |
out the toilets which removed a job from somebody who was doing that. He | :34:46. | :34:50. | |
played on the immigration, hasn't he in a big way? It has frightened the | :34:51. | :34:56. | |
mainly major parties. Whatever the strategy, it seems to have been | :34:57. | :35:00. | |
vindicated so far at the polls. UKIP's hands on grass-roots helped | :35:01. | :35:09. | |
the party the elections. It gained 139 extra councillors. Its success | :35:10. | :35:13. | |
lost the Conservatives control of councils in Cambridgeshire, Norfolk | :35:14. | :35:18. | |
and Lincolnshire. In the 2009 European elections, UKIP more than | :35:19. | :35:22. | |
doubled its share of the vote to 16%, this time the party says the | :35:23. | :35:26. | |
sky is the limit. If UKIP top the polls in the | :35:27. | :35:29. | |
European elections next month, it will be the first time that any | :35:30. | :35:33. | |
party other than Labour or the Conservatives have won a nationwide | :35:34. | :35:38. | |
election since the First World War. It is the wind of odd statistic that | :35:39. | :35:42. | |
pollsters are having to grapple with. Something that seemed | :35:43. | :35:45. | |
inconceivable four years ago, and doesn't seem so unlikely anymore. | :35:46. | :35:49. | |
The big decision for the party will be one of power versus protest, can | :35:50. | :35:55. | |
they govern and seem like the radical alternative to the status | :35:56. | :35:59. | |
quo? We don't intend to be a polished political party. We are a | :36:00. | :36:04. | |
bunch of amateurs with ordinary jobs and lives who are getting involved | :36:05. | :36:07. | |
in politics because they are sick of politicians. | :36:08. | :36:09. | |
How does the party sick of politicians hit the big time come | :36:10. | :36:14. | |
2015? The east of England maybe responding to UKIP's overtures at a | :36:15. | :36:19. | |
local level, the party claims they can get 20 MPs at a general | :36:20. | :36:23. | |
election, even with a bus this big, that could be a whole new battle. | :36:24. | :36:29. | |
Well, Suzanne Evans is a UKIP councillor in South London who | :36:30. | :36:33. | |
defected from the Conservatives in 2013. John Harris is a journalist | :36:34. | :36:38. | |
who has written extensively about UKIP. You spend a lot of time with | :36:39. | :36:46. | |
these guys? I have been to Ramsey twice. Not just Ramsey, but other | :36:47. | :36:49. | |
places where UKIP are on the march. What are they like UKIP supporters? | :36:50. | :36:55. | |
The film gave a good flavour of why they choose to vote the way they do. | :36:56. | :36:59. | |
They feel very sort of, cut off. I have a pet theory which was sparked | :37:00. | :37:05. | |
by UKIP's success, there is a north/south divide in England, but | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
there is an east/west divide and Eastern England feels very, very | :37:10. | :37:13. | |
isolated and by the time you get to the coast, London feels a long way | :37:14. | :37:17. | |
away and people complain there are holes in the road and there aren't | :37:18. | :37:20. | |
many jobs and opportunities and no one licence to them and in addition | :37:21. | :37:24. | |
-- listens to them and because the regional economy is based around | :37:25. | :37:29. | |
agriculture, with the tourist industry towards the coast, they are | :37:30. | :37:34. | |
both parts of the economy which use migrant labour at low rates often, | :37:35. | :37:38. | |
local people under cut. They don't feel politicians are listening and | :37:39. | :37:42. | |
you have this powder keg really and along come UKIP saying immigration, | :37:43. | :37:47. | |
immigration, immigration to para face Tony Blair -- para phrase Tony | :37:48. | :37:52. | |
Blair and people like the sound of it. Why did you join? I say the | :37:53. | :37:58. | |
Conservative Party left me rather than I left the Conservative Party. | :37:59. | :38:02. | |
I think coming up to the 2010 general election there was a feeling | :38:03. | :38:04. | |
that the Conservatives were going to make a difference. They were going | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
to make a difference on immigration. They were going to make a | :38:08. | :38:10. | |
difference, this whole talk of this huge Reform Bill sweeping away the | :38:11. | :38:15. | |
bureaucracy that the Labour Government brought in and it didn't | :38:16. | :38:18. | |
happen. There was a lack of compassion. I like to think of | :38:19. | :38:22. | |
myself as a compassionate person. The way the Conservatives were | :38:23. | :38:26. | |
operating, I didn't want to be part of it anymore. I looked at what UKIP | :38:27. | :38:31. | |
had to offer. I spoke personally to Nigel Farage. He joined. I don't | :38:32. | :38:36. | |
regret it for a moment. You went out of disillusion more | :38:37. | :38:42. | |
than out of policy? I think the initial impetus was true, yeah, | :38:43. | :38:47. | |
that's right, Jeremy, it was disillusion, but did look at the | :38:48. | :38:50. | |
policies carefully and discussed them in great detail and I was | :38:51. | :38:54. | |
impressed by what I saw and it tuned with my values and as you saw in the | :38:55. | :38:57. | |
report there, it tunes very much with the values of the people that | :38:58. | :39:00. | |
John was talking about, the people that feel dispossessed, the people | :39:01. | :39:06. | |
fed-up with the politicians operating in the Westminster bubble | :39:07. | :39:09. | |
and they want something different. He is not on the same side of the | :39:10. | :39:13. | |
fence as you. What's your sense of whether people are interested in | :39:14. | :39:16. | |
policies or acting out of disillusion? At this point in time, | :39:17. | :39:21. | |
UKIP doesn't have many policies, it doesn't have a policy platform which | :39:22. | :39:25. | |
is convenient because people project on to it whatever they want. A lot | :39:26. | :39:31. | |
of people at the top of UKIP, Nigel Farage are free-market eeres which | :39:32. | :39:45. | |
haven't got much to say, it doesn't matter. The point is that, UKIP is a | :39:46. | :39:55. | |
cult of personality around a fantastically charismatic man who | :39:56. | :39:57. | |
embodies a difference in the political class we have ended up | :39:58. | :40:00. | |
with. I don't think that's true. We have huge amount of policies and | :40:01. | :40:04. | |
after the European elections... After you are standing in an | :40:05. | :40:08. | |
election... We are talk being the general election here, aren't we? | :40:09. | :40:12. | |
What other political parties have put their manifesto on the table | :40:13. | :40:16. | |
yet? UKIP is no different. Our policies are being costed out. We | :40:17. | :40:20. | |
don't want to make promises we can't and we will have policies coming | :40:21. | :40:27. | |
forward. If someone says to you in a town like Boston in Lincolnshire | :40:28. | :40:31. | |
where they are exercised about the fact that so-called flexible labour | :40:32. | :40:37. | |
markets resulted in local people seeing the going rate for cutting | :40:38. | :40:44. | |
cauliflower and cabbages come down. You can have a free-market policy, | :40:45. | :40:48. | |
what have you got to say about that? If you go to those places the Polish | :40:49. | :40:53. | |
community that came in before are worried about the impact of Romanian | :40:54. | :40:58. | |
and Bulgarian immigration... You have not answered the question. What | :40:59. | :41:03. | |
have you got to say about the doub down sides which is a huge issue in | :41:04. | :41:07. | |
the places we are talking about? If we left the European Union we | :41:08. | :41:11. | |
wouldn't have such a pressure on labour markets. We have not nearly | :41:12. | :41:16. | |
one million young people unemployed because jobs are being taken away | :41:17. | :41:20. | |
for people. They can't get that initial foot on the job ladder. Is | :41:21. | :41:23. | |
this really about leaving the European Union? Is it something to | :41:24. | :41:27. | |
do with immigration? It is about both because you can't divorce the | :41:28. | :41:31. | |
two, can you? When you are in the European Union, we have an open door | :41:32. | :41:36. | |
policy and you cannot divorce the two. People say that 70% of the | :41:37. | :41:41. | |
people in this country now, whether they support UKIP or not, are deeply | :41:42. | :41:46. | |
concerned about the impact of immigration and that's not something | :41:47. | :41:50. | |
any politician can afford to ignore and the three old parties ignored it | :41:51. | :41:58. | |
for too long. You are agreeing? I am a journalist. I am on the left of | :41:59. | :42:02. | |
politics and no question that the matter of immigration is hugely | :42:03. | :42:05. | |
important in all this and the political classes have yet to come | :42:06. | :42:08. | |
up with any satisfactory answers. Thank you very much. | :42:09. | :42:16. | |
The Guardian has news that the Conservatives are planning to have | :42:17. | :42:20. | |
an attack on windfarms in their manifesto for the elections next | :42:21. | :42:26. | |
year. The Daily Mail has a story about immigration, illegal migrants | :42:27. | :42:29. | |
trying to get on to the back of lorries at Calais. The Times, our | :42:30. | :42:37. | |
weather forecasts are going to get better because of some breakthrough | :42:38. | :42:45. | |
in the world of me ter rolling. There is a four week wait to see | :42:46. | :42:53. | |
some GPs. The Daily Express has cottoned on to this mood our guests | :42:54. | :42:58. | |
were talking about, there is a new migrant flood on the way. | :42:59. | :43:02. | |
Well, that's not quite everything. Before we go, foreign ministers from | :43:03. | :43:05. | |
all over NATO announced the suspension of all practical civilian | :43:06. | :43:08. | |
and military co-operation with Russia. It would have been | :43:09. | :43:20. | |
surprising had they not. What's more they can or would do to get Russia | :43:21. | :43:24. | |
to back off from Ukraine is less than clear. The distinctive | :43:25. | :43:27. | |
character of this conflict is the extent to which it has elements both | :43:28. | :43:30. | |
international and civil. Even families have been split down the | :43:31. | :43:36. | |
middle. Have We're going to be played out in a moment by two | :43:37. | :43:39. | |
Ukrainian twins, Sonya and Anna Kupriienko who perform as the Bloom | :43:40. | :43:42. | |
Twins. Just before that, let's have a word. Who is who? | :43:43. | :43:48. | |
Doesn't matter! All right. Why is it when we look at | :43:49. | :43:55. | |
your country from outside, a lot of Ukrainians are like Putin, aren't | :43:56. | :44:02. | |
they? Yes, that's right. Is your family split? No. Not quite. If we | :44:03. | :44:07. | |
are talking about grandparents and our parents, there is a friction | :44:08. | :44:14. | |
between them. Our grandparents live in Moscow and our parents live in | :44:15. | :44:20. | |
Kiev. So there is friction about that. You hear different stories and | :44:21. | :44:29. | |
no one knows the real one. Don't get me wrong, we are not into politics | :44:30. | :44:34. | |
so we're just guessing here. Hang on. The premise you are here is | :44:35. | :44:38. | |
you do have political commitments and you care about what happens in | :44:39. | :44:42. | |
your country? We care about that, but we cannot know like a proper | :44:43. | :44:46. | |
story about it because no one tells the proper story. | :44:47. | :44:53. | |
We know from our prospective because we see what our family told us, what | :44:54. | :45:00. | |
my family told me, what our grandparents told me and what I can | :45:01. | :45:04. | |
see from different media channels. It is so dimp. I can't -- different. | :45:05. | :45:08. | |
I can't know perfectly well because it is different. You are sensible. | :45:09. | :45:12. | |
You don't care too much about politics. Many young people... I | :45:13. | :45:16. | |
care about my country. That's what I was going to get to. | :45:17. | :45:23. | |
Most societies young people have other concerns other than politics. | :45:24. | :45:28. | |
Before that I wasn't into politics at all. Right now, I do care about | :45:29. | :45:32. | |
what is happening right now with my family, with people in Ukraine, with | :45:33. | :45:37. | |
Ukraine, but again, I just don't know what is going on, but the only | :45:38. | :45:40. | |
thing that I would like to change, I don't get the thing that Russia and | :45:41. | :45:47. | |
Ukraine are split. I would like them like brothers and sisters. We are | :45:48. | :46:00. | |
similar, but different. They don't need to argue, they just | :46:01. | :46:03. | |
need to be together. They just need to care about each other like we | :46:04. | :46:08. | |
sometimes do. We are going to let Sonia and Anna | :46:09. | :46:16. | |
get plugged into their instruments. And they are going to perform their | :46:17. | :46:24. | |
cover of Bob Marley's protest song Get Up Stand Up which they say they | :46:25. | :46:32. | |
chose against Viktor Yanukovych's | :46:33. | :46:37. |