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16/05/2014

Who is the new Indian prime minister? William Dalrymple and Anish Kapoor tell us. The Green party pitch for power. The Premier League boss sexism row. With Yalda Hakim.


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From tea boy to Prime Minister, Mhodi wins a landslide in the

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world's biggest democracy, what can India and the world expect from such

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a controversial figure. We ask an Indian historian where he comes

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from. He may have been hated by the liberals but he soon became the

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darling of the urban middle-classes of Gujarat. He concentrated on

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simple things like bringing transparent good governance, rooting

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out unnecessary bureaucracy, investment and decent he can

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treesity supply. We will ask what's wrong with him? Where to start,

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India has dreamed itself a dream, with a mass murderer as its main

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character. And... I had a girlfriend once called Double Decker, happy for

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you to play upstairs. The Premier League's premier sexist, this

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England striker isn't impressed. As a boy he told tea at a railway

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station. Those close to him say he's so obsessed with personal hygiene he

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changes clothes four times a day. To others he has blood on his hand.

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He's Mr Modi. He's India's most devisive politician, he was an

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international pariah after being implicated in a massacre in Gujarat

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state in 2002, it left more than 2,000 Muslims dead. Tonight he

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stands on the vernal of leading the world's largest democracy. In part

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of the programme we recorded earlier we will hear from a Modi supporter,

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and one of the observers of Indian life and history, but here is this

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take on Modi's extraordinary story. India is great country, bursting

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with youth, beauty and talent. The world's largest democracy, home to

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850 million voters. So why is it just electing this man,

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Narendra Modi, an aesthetic and authoritarian Hindu nationalist,

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with a decidedly murky record with minorities. Man who some say bears

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the responsibility for the massacre of hundreds of Indian Muslims in

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2002. The man you see is what you get. A strong man, populist leader

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of the masses. He's always work on what is beneficial to him. Narendra

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Modi's early life was associated with a tea stall like this one. His

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father from the low caste oil cast and didn't have much cash to feed

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hungry mouths started a chai stall, and in the early mornings Modi used

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to help his dad before crossing the tracks to go to school. According to

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the traditions tracks to go to school. According to

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pushed as a teenager into an arranged marriage. After a month he

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whacked out, to go on a -- he walked out to go on a pilgrimage to the

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Himalayas and never came back. When he did he set up a tea stall in a

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different town, and here he did he set up a tea stall in a

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under the influence of the far right. He

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under the influence of the far modelled on the Hitler

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under the influence of the far moved over to the BJP and moved to

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New Deli to the headquarters moved over to the BJP and moved to

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he lived a very austere life in the party headquarters,

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he lived a very austere life in the from a regional politician into a

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national figure. The BJP swept to power in India in the 1990s, in the

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wake of growing religious tension and mass bloodshed between Hindus

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and Muslim, as the Hindu nationalism movement began to flex its muscles.

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The destruction of the B temple by Hindu nationalists, whipped into the

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frenzy by the BJP leaders shocked the world. Ten years later Modi had

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risen through the ranks to become chief minister of Gujarat. It was on

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his watch that religious violence erupted again. Over three days of

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riots hundreds erupted again. Over three days of

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murdered and thousands erupted again. Over three days of

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the initial massacre until five hours after it had finished, but

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the initial massacre until five on camera claiming

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the initial massacre until five bloodshed had Modi's blessing and

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the police had been ordered not to intervene. Modi became a pariah. And

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was banned from entering Britain and America. Indian liberals are

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frightened of Mr Modi's history of riots in Gujarat. They are

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frightened of anybody on the right any way, and Mr Modi's much more

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unabashedly on the right of society, and the economy. That any leader in

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the BJP has ever been. Modi may have been hated by the liberals but he

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soon became the darling of the urban middle-classes of Gujarat. He

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concentrated on simple things like bringing transparent good

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governance, rooting out unnecessary bureaucracy, bringing investment and

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a decent supply of electricity. For ten years Gujarat has enjoyed double

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digit economic growth. And while economists point out that the

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Gujarat model has done little to alleviate poverty, or improve

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education, nutrition or health care for the poor, the burgeoning

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middle-class have given him credit for their rising living standards.

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It is this rapid growth of other Indians now looking to Modi to

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unleash across the rest of India. So how will he govern? Will we see Modi

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unleash across the rest of India. So the technocrat, who only wants to

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revive India's smutering economy? Or will it be Modi the Hindu

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nationalist, should Indian liberals and especially India's religious

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minorities be worried? I think he wants to come back as Prime Minister

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five years from now. So he will do everything that he possibly can to

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remain popular five years from now, rather than to polarise the country

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and allow communal tension to grow or scare away investors. India has

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today taken a terrific gamble on its future. It has voted into power an

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Indian equivalent of Pete President Putin, effectively choosing to

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ignore Modi's record on human rights in return for putting in place a

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decisive and hugely charismatic leader who millions hope will

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provide the strong Government and economic management this country is

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craving. We have our guest with us now and. These are dramatic results,

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what is the overwhelming reaction across the country? Well, I think

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one of both exhileration and relief. He can sell racial because I think

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those who were committed -- exhileration, because those who were

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committed to the Modi project are absolutely delighted that their

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efforts have come to such a wonderful fruition, and it is the

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BJP who have a simple majority on its on and they have 300 seats, much

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more than any coalition or a single party has ever got since 1984. So it

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is a great thing. That sense of stability that you actually elected

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a Government for five years and rather than have to negotiate with

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fragile coalitions. That sense of relief is also very evident. I think

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it is a mixture of two moods which are there in Delhi at present. How

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significant is this in Indian politics in life? Some people are

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even talking about it being like a second Republic, he is within 30

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votes of being able to change the entire Indian constitution. In many

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ways you could say this is the most significant day in Indian politics

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almost since partition, or certainly since the emergency. And this is a

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man who rose from nothing, he was from a low caste, a tea boy at a

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railway station, what does this say about the mood in India right now?

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Well I think it constituency a very decisive rejection of the politics

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of entitlement, which marked the Gandhi family's direct or indirect

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rule for a very long time. I think Congress willy nilly had got to be

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identified with privilege, with a sense of being born in the right

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place and Mr Modi, who was incidentally taunted by various

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Congress supporters as a mere tea boy who could set up a tea shot in

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the Congress office, used it very adratly droitly to his advantage and

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managed to convoy the sense that in India there are no glass ceilings

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and India presents an opportunist society. It is a very good point, in

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a sense it was as muches the failings of the -- in as much the

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failings of the Congress that handed this election to Modi. He waged

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fatastically brilliant campaign, he turned out to be a much better

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public speaker than anybody thought, and had the ability to whip up large

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crowds into a frenzy. As we have been hearing, Narendra Modi is one

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of the India's most devisive politician, his involvement in the

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2002 Gujarat riots has been especially controversial, one critic

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is Anish Kapur, I asked him what is wrong with this Indian Prime

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Minister Narendra Modi? India has dream add dream with a mass murder

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as its main character, there is something wrong with that. So who am

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I to say against supposedly democratic politics, but I think we

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have to watch and see what happens next. The story isn't great. When

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you say mass murder, what do you mean? I mean a mass murderer, there

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is an on going trial, Modi claims to have a so called clean chit, he does

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not. The trial is on going. Huge intimidation of witnesses, etc.

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That's well documented, I'm not making it up. Modi has a certain

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authoritarian ability, is that what we need? I grew up in Gandhi's

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India, Neru's India, Kabir's India Krishna's India. One that spoke of

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inclusive, gentle, nonviolent approach to all kind of issues. Here

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we are on the edge of a sectarian, partisan violent approach, which is

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completely different. But to call him a mass murderer, when he

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actually hasn't been charged, is far fetched isn't it? I don't think so,

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I feel this is the way it is. I'm not alone, by the way. There are

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many, many who have said before me. Let's have a look at his economic

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policy, because he did run his campaign on business and development

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and really that shows that's what the Indian people want, the

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aspiration of jobs, a better economy and stronger economy. His record in

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Gujarat proves that. It has had a 10% growth, the rest of the country

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has had a 5% growth? If so called growth is at the cost of Muslims, at

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the cost of the poor, at the cost of women, at the cost of child

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undernourishment. 50% of Indian children are undernourished on a

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daily basis, etc. If that's the cost of 10% growth well then I don't want

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it. You have just heard what was said there, do you think that

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India's new Prime Minister has blood on his hands? Well, I'm infuriated

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by what I heard said, I have a great respect for Mr Kapoor as an artist.

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But as an artist who tries to dabble in politics I think he gets it all

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wrong. Firstly, the use of the term "mass murderer", to me appears like

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an indictment from a kangaroo court. Nobody, there is no on going trial,

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nobody has accused Mr Modi, there is not even a first information report

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on it. That is not true, Human Rights Watch released a report

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saying that Modi's administration was complicit? In India we take our

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judiciary far more seriously. I think what Anish is referring to the

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wife of the Congress MP Jafrey, who was killed in the riots, what

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happened to him lies at the centre of the charges against Modi in 2002.

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Jafrey was in the colony, he was calling for help, he was calling the

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police. He was an ex-MP and calling civil servants, police chiefs and

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no-one was coming to help him. Now the report done by the SIT for the

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Supreme Court, which cleared Modi of this, which is a controversial

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report, none the less it is the report submitted to the Supreme

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Court and commissioned by the Supreme Court. It says the police

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were in camera the whole day. It is hard to believe he was not told this

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man was calling. His wife charges that he called Modi and that Modi

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laughed at him and expressed surprise that he was still alive.

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How do you respond to that? Well, firstly I respond to it in the way

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that there has been a full fledged investigation done on it. There is

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nothing found to incriminate Mr Modi. The attempt was to have Mr

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Modi charged as a part of a conspiracy to kill him. It did not

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stand judicial scrutiny. To my mind therefore calling him a mass

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murderer, on the strength of one allegation is offensive. You reject

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these comments, but what about Modi's remarks about how he felt

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about Muslims being killed. He compared it to a puppy being run

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over? It was a colloquialism. It was a colloquialism to compare Muslims

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being run over like a puppy? It was a colloquialism that was badly

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translated and the person who interviewed Mr Modi from Reuters

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wrote that she found nothing offensive about it and it had been

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misconstrued. Do you buy that? One could buy it if it was a unique

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instance of Modi being mistranslated. And you know this to

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be true, that Mr Modi has not apologised for the riots. He said

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that he if he apologised when he was guilty of mass murder he should be

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put on trial and hung. He has made a whole variety of similar statments.

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He told the New York Times, what does it matter, it is all in the

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past, it is the future we should look to. Whether we like it or not,

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it is the future we now have to deal with. He is in power, he has been

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voted in which a very large number of Indians and I think the hope is

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that he has left that Hindu nationalism. That is the hope that

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many people have. Today Mr Modi said he would unite all Indians, given he

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is so devisive, do you think he can do that? He's not devisive, certain

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people have painted him to be devisive. He has always maintained

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the campaign as economic development for all Indians. Just because he

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does not mention particular sectarian appeals he does not divide

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Indians into Hindus, Muslims and others. That is why you call him

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devisive? I would say he's great unifier because he's trying to make

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a composite citizenship. And development at the end of the day,

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if you get development, if you get progress, if you get growth, it is

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not merely for Hindus or a particular community. It is for

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everybody. It is for all castes and communities. We will have to leave

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it there, thank you both for joining us on Newsnight.

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Here there is less than a week to go before local and European elections.

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One party is dominating the coverage so far, UKIP, but they weren't the

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only insurgents out there. The Green Party first made waves in European

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elections 25 years ago, but their progress since has been some what

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stop-start. After the 2010 general election some believed the party had

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a golden opportunity, they had secured their first MP, they took

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control of their first council the following year, and, with a centre

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left vote fleeing the Liberal Democrats, a space seemed to have

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opened up for a fourth party of the radical left. Things have turned out

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rather differently. It is UKIP on the right rather than the Greens on

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the left who have made their breakthrough. At the last local

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elections UKIP gained 139 councillors, the Greens a mere five.

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They are currently polling at around 4% in national opinion polls,

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although the picture for the European elections looks a little

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rowsier. -- rosier. With one poll putting the Greens ahead of the Lib

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Dems. They are not afraid of making bold promises, a living wage, the

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abolition of tuition fees and an end to fracking is part of the Green

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message. The question is under their newish leader Natalie Benefit and

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the centre vote uniting around the Labour Party, whether the Greens can

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break out of the polling. I'm joined by Natalie Bennett, the leader of

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the Green Party. When it comes to Europe are you closer to th European

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mind set or UKIP? We very much want to remain in Europe, we also say yes

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to a referendum, because we trust in democracy. That was not the

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question, are you closer to the mind set or UKIP? I'm not sure about the

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mind set, we are wanting to remain in the European Union, it provides a

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foundation of standards, standards of rights, standards of consumer

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rights, human rights and environmental standards. You only

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have to look at the polls to see who is closer to the European mind set,

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what people are thinking, what they are more connected with? If you look

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at the last poll on whether or not people would vote to remain in

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Europe in-out referendum it was a clear majority, 54%. These polls

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speak for themselves, 26% for UKIP, Greens 10%? We have seen a lot of

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dissatisfied voters on the right, understandably, people are fed up

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with the three largest parties. And dissatisfied voters on the left as

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well. Let's lock at Europe as a whole. Is it true though that if you

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vote Greens you are voting for more regulation from Brussels? Very much

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not. We very much support the principle of subsidiarity, written

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into the Lisbon Treaty, local decisions should be made locally, we

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want a reformed Europe, but we need 180 degrees different from David

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Cameron, we want a Europe working for people not multinational

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companies. We can't look at everything, but looking at your

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policies, this call for a directive on minimum income, What what does

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this mean? You should earn enough money to live on. How much are you

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looking from? We are talking in terms of Britain, in London ?8. 80

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an hour. Is this wage or guaranteed income? This is a wage we are

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talking about. Is it conditional? We need to separate two things which I

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think perhaps have got confused. Conditional or unconditional? He

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want to make the minimum wage a living wage for people working. In

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the long-term we are looking at a basic income which would be the idea

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that everyone had sufficient money to live on. So the tax-payers will

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have to fork out. Where is the incentive to work here? It is

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interesting in Switzerland they will have a referendum on this, it is the

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principle if you are a member of society you should have access to

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resources to feed yourself, put a roof over your head. The fact that

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Britain, the world's sixth richest country, last year one million

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people depended on charity from food banks. If you vote for greens, you

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have said pay for taxes? We are looking at your record in Brighton

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where you wanted to impose an almost 5% tax, when you couldn't through

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the referendum you pushed as much as you could which was 2%? I pick up

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the word "impose", we wanted to pick up with the people of Brighton that

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austerity had gone too far, and paying for the fraud of the bankers

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was being laid far too much on the poor and disadvantaged, we wanted

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that 5% council tax rise to pay for social care. What does success look

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for yo We only need a swing of 1. 6% in the proportional representation

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in the elections on Europe to treble our MEPs. Ahead of the Lib Dems? I'm

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confident we will see the Lib Dem is tanking their vote. I'm up

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confident we will see the Lib Dem is re-election in September it will be

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up for the Green Party members to decide where

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up for the Green Party members to They were meant to

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up for the Green Party members to between friends, but do chief

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executive of the Premier between friends, but do chief

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Richard Scudamore's e-mails reveal how deeply entrenched sexism is in

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football. He has apologised but is under pressure to resign. Should

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private e-mails end a public career. After a season in which ten Premier

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League managers have parted company with their clubs over on-the-field

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matters, there are growing calls for the league's chief executive to

:23:24.:23:29.

leave his post too. Richard Scudamore, dishing out medals to

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champions Manchester City last weekend is in trouble over private

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e-mails he sent on his work account. In the e-mails, which were leaked to

:23:38.:23:42.

a newspaper by his former PA, he wrote:

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team condemned Mr Scudamore's remarks. It is not just

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made. And however jokey he was trying to be with that, it

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made. And however jokey he was totally unacceptable in this day and

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age. Mr Scudamore has apologised, but it is emerging he wrote to the

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chairman of the Premier League clubs asking them if they found his

:24:30.:24:33.

comments sexist. Until yesterday I thought he might be able to ride

:24:34.:24:36.

comments sexist. Until yesterday I if he apologised properly. But now,

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especially given the revelation about his e-mail to the chairman

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especially given the revelation think his position is untenable. A

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Premier League panel will decide next week whether to take action

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against Mr Scudamore. If the final whistle has not already blown on his

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career by then. I'm whistle has not already blown on his

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the women's whistle has not already blown on his

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footballer, and a member of Campaign Group Women in Football, and Claire

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Fox from the Institute of Group Women in Football, and Claire

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Shouldn't man who says these sorts of things and has the kind of

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responsibility he has take responsibility for his words Claire?

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He can take responsibility for his words but I think an important

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principle is at stake here, which is I do think we should be able to

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distinguish between what is said privately and

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distinguish between what is said I think that even despite his gross,

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distinguish between what is said crude, sexism, not the kind of guy I

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will invite round to dinner some time soon, but nonetheless he said

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these privately. If all of the things we all said privately in

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e-mails or confidences we shared were made public, probably

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us couldn't face the day. Not because we say things like that, but

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because there has to be a place where you can speak off the record.

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So that's what I want to defend, it is a very important point, I'm not

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prepared to let this idiot's ill-spoken e-mails mean that we

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sacrifice something which is going to affect all of us very seriously,

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dangerously. Do you agree with Claire, these were just jokes

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between friends, and they weren't for the public arena? I agree

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partially in the idea that there should be a private sphere for

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people to say what they feel like saying, however I think there needs

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to be you know a differenciation between what is said privately and

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publicly, this was a work e-mail that was exchanged and seen by a PA

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working in her working capacity. So I think that's the case here. This

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is something that Mr Scudamore said in his capacity as chief executive

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of the Premier League and it was on a work e-mail. That is a technical

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point, he wasn't intending it to be a public e-mail. It is not a

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technical point, the e-mails are the property of the Premier League, they

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were circulated between colleagues at the Premier League, they were

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about, in particular, one female colleague at the Premier League, and

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the person who viewed those e-mail, rather than being seen as the

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perpetrator who should be punished for leaking those e-mails she was a

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victim, she was instructed to access those e-mails as part of her daily

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job, instead she was confronted with all this sexism and she was really

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upset. If it came from a private e-mail should it get this attention?

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It didn't come from a private e-mail. The point is this is a

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person who in his professional capacity has publicly pledged, if it

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had come from a private e-mail and -- If it had come from a private

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e-mail would you have felt the same way? You can't argue about those

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sorts of things. It was on a work e-mail and he has made extremely big

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gestures about discrimination and equality, and that is the basis.

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Isn't that fascinating, one of the things I have no interest in this

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particular individual, one of the things is in the public sphere he

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seems to have done huge amounts for women's football, which is the

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professional basis on which I would want to hold him to account and for

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the Premier League. That is the point, that publicly there is a

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disparity. But there is a disparity between a lot of the way that I am

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publicly and the way I am privately, as with us all. Now that it is out

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and people are aware of his views. It is out because it has become de

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rigueur that we take things to newspapers, we take private

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information put into the public domain. I'm saying can we just stop

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a moment and think of the consequences that every time we

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write an e-mail that we consider to be going to mates, or off the

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record, that it is going to be on the front page of the newspaper. We

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will behave, it will be a tyranny, we would never, ever be frank. Do

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you think we are taking political correctness too far? That is one of

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those cliches I'm nervous of. What I do think is we have a situation

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whereby we are frightened, we are talking on egg shell, even when we

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are talking off the report, I don't think we are able to cultivate

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ourselves as individuals or be honest, ever. If this was a race

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e-mail would it be different? I don't think it would be,

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discrimination is discrimination. Would he have been forced to, would

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they have taken swift action against him? That is a speculative question,

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but I think it is a concern for me that there is not different ranks of

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discrimination, discrimination is discrimination, the argument whether

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if it was a racist e-mail or anti-semetic, would it have been

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dealt with more strongly, possibly yes. Any e-mail that comes out,

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people should lose their jobs? You have to put everything into context,

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I'm making a point about the private sphere and the distinction between

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the public, I'm not here to say if it was about women it is not as

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serious as race issue, that would be ludicrous. I think it portrays

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attitudes I don't like, there is lots of people who have attitudes I

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don't like that express them privately. That is the point I'm

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making, if he stood up making a speech arguing this, fine, I do not

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think at the moment we should drive him out of his job. That is not for

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me to say. I think you know there are policies in place, the Premier

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League are signed up. What do you think will happen to him? I think

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there is policies in place that will lead to protocols and a decision

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will be made. Again it is not for me to say. But I think obviously we are

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disappointed in somebody in that capacity saying such sexist things.

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Thank you very much all for joining us. That's all for this week. As

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Downing Street ponders the best format for the election TV debates,

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we leave you with the republican primaries in Idaho, where they are

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less fussy about who takes part. David and Ed take note. Thank you so

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much your closing remarks. I was living in Fat Jack's Cellar because

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my wife had restraining orders out. I have 77 defendants. Fat Jack's

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wife said get this lunatic out of my cellar. I think half of the

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democrats are lunatics. My Bible says it will get worse and worse and

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worse, I said do you mind putting that in writing, he said sure and he

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put it in writing and I have the original at home. It is time to get

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out, thank you for the time tonight, and thank you

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for watching and we will see at the poll.

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Good evening to you, in the last few days we have been advertising some

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very warm weather heading for the weekend and the

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