19/08/2014 Newsnight

The cease-fire in Gaza is over as Palestinian rockets hit Tel Aviv.

There were no Israeli injuries, but they retaliation upon Gaza City was

lethal. We will hear from a senior Palestinian politician and Daniel

Barenboim, the maestro who conducts his famous orchestra who has hard

words for Israel. It has not given Israel the security it hoped for. In

the end, to put it bluntly, the Pelleas Dineen -- the Palestinians

suffer and Israel loses. Are Mark Carney's wrong predictions making

him seem like the unreliable pilot of monetary policy? A retiring

Labour MP lets rip about the problem of too many women in Parliament.

Stella Creasy is here and she is not smiling.

Good evening. Nine days of relative peace for Gazans and Israelis is no

more and the deadly pattern has resumed. Gaza says there have been

35 air strikes and another Palestinian child is reportedly

dead. Hamas said they have fired 40 rockets at Israel. Israeli bomb

shelters are open again and earlier today Israel calls its negotiators

back from Cairo claiming Hamas had breached the cease-fire. Our

correspondent is in Gaza City. Yolande Knell, first of all, what is

happening in Gaza City tonight? Right now, you might be able to hear

the sound of Israeli drones once again. We have seen in the past few

minutes Palestinian rockets being fired towards Israel and we have

seen through the past few hours Israeli has strikes -- Israeli air

strikes. Close to our office in Gaza City, we heard four or five blasts

as there was an Israeli air strike targeting a house. This is work a

small girl, we are told, was killed along with two Palestinian women.

Also 15 people had to be dug out of the rubble, many of them badly

injured. These are scenes the likes of which are zones thought they had

put behind them after the recent lull in the fighting -- which the

cars ons. -- Gazans. Apparently one was aimed at Ben Gurion Airport? We

know Israel's Iron Dome Israel -- Iron Dome defence system has

intercepted some, but we are told a rocket landed close to the airport.

This will have been of huge symbiotic significance for the

Israelis. They said it was partly on revenge for the killing of members

of the family here in Gaza City. Also Hamas blaming Israel for the

collapse in the cease-fire. Israel says it is Hamas that is

responsible. The business of whether or not either side was getting

anything out of the negotiations or either side was prepared to

compromise, what actually happened? In Egypt, we had repeated signs that

little progress was being made in the indirect talks to try to broker

a longer term cease-fire deal between Israel and the Palestinians,

with the Egyptians acting as go-betweens. Intelligence officers

having delegations in separate rooms, trying to put to them a

proposal to address Israel's security concerns. It has been

demanding the demons drive version of Gaza. The Palestinians in turn

have been demanding and easing to the tight border restrictions -- the

demilitarisation of Gaza. We understood already that it was

proving very difficult to reach any kind of compromise that both sides

could sell to their own publics. Joining us from Ramallah in the West

Bank is Mustafa Barghouti, former Palestinian presidential candidate.

Good evening. Was it the case with the negotiations appearing to go

nowhere that Hamas fired three rockets which eventually broke the

cease-fire? Well, the most important problem has been that the talks did

not move an inch for 18 days because Israel rejected and refused every

proposal presented by the Egyptians. Benjamin Netanyahu and his

government clearly had the intention of making the cease-fire fail and

preventing an agreement of a long lasting cease-fire. Had the three

rockets not been fired, the chances are... Maybe the deadlock... Maybe

do, say she would have continued. Unfortunately the western media is

reporting this single act of violation of the cease-fire, but

they never reported the fact that Israel violated the cease-fire in

three different ways. In every minute of every cease-fire, it

Israel continued to fly a military planes over Gaza. They also fired at

the farmers working in Gaza and their ships continue to fire on the

fishermen who are trying to fish on the shore of Gaza. In reality,

Israel violated the cease-fire, but negotiations did not stop. The three

rockets were not fired by Hamas. Whoever fired them may be violated

the agreement but it was not an excuse for all of the attacks by the

Israelis which started to take the lives of children and civilians

again. If Hamas did not fire the three rockets, it is fair to say

that Hamas is in charge of security in Gaza and they should be able to

stop any renegades. That is Hamas's responsibility. I am not sure if

Hamas is responsible for security since Israel is not clarifying

whether it is occupying Gaza or not. If you have an interview with any

Israeli official, I wish you would ask them the question, is Israel

occupying Gaza and if it is, why is it bombarding people there, killings

of millions, killing mainly women and children -- killing civilians,

and injuring more than 10,000 people? If it is not occupying Gaza,

why is it imposingly blockade and preventing Palestinians having free

access to the world, why is it causing this terrible humanitarian

crisis? In reality, there was a very good opportunity... Let us talk

about the opportunity. There are several groups, in the

negotiations, including Hamas and Fatah. What were the Palestinian

groups, and I know you are not in the negotiations, but what were the

Palestinian groups offering up on the leek as a compromise? I met with

the negotiators -- offering up as a compromise? I met with the

negotiating team when it was preparing its final paper that would

be presented to the Egyptian side, to pass to the Israelis. The

Palestinian delegation was an agreement, there was no

disagreement. An agreement that there will be a lasting and complete

cease-fire, lasting one, in addition to lifting the blockade of Gaza.

Today Israel is in contradiction not with Hamas, but with all

Palestinians, including the Palestinian Authority. The

delegation in Cairo was headed by a representative of the Palestinian

Authority. To claim it is a fight with Hamas is not right, it is a

fight with all the Palestinian people. In my opinion, Israel and

Benjamin Netanyahu are trying to consolidate their occupation in Gaza

and they are trying to impose this siege and suffocate Palestinians not

only in Gaza but also in the West Bank where attacks to -- continue to

happen. Evidence Israelis and Arabs can live and work in harmony is the

West-Eastern Divan Orchestra founded and led for the last 15 years by one

of the world's leading conductors. Daniel Barenboim's orchestra made up

of young Israelis, Palestinians and others from neighbouring countries

will perform at the Proms tomorrow and the programme will include

specially commissioned works by composers of Israeli and Arabic

origin. I spoke to Daniel Barenboim earlier and asked how the situation

in Gaza had affected his orchestra. It is a very tragic moment. It is a

moment of horrific violence. Something that even this region that

has seen so much violence has seldom experienced. In the end, you see the

suffering of the Palestinians, with so many children and young people

killed in Gaza, over 50% of the population of Gaza is under 15 years

old. So think of the hatred that this has left for the future. Nobody

in this case things of tomorrow, let alone the Day after tomorrow. And it

has not given Israel the security had hoped for. In the end, to put it

bluntly and crudely, the Palestinians suffer and the Israelis

lose so what is the point of it? Powers the orchestra changing and

evolving? -- how is. In the present situation with Gaza, I was sure some

people would back out and would cancel, saying, I cannot now play

with the other. And I would have understood it. I am so happy and so

proud, I say that unashamedly, so proud but not one musician cancelled

coming. Will it be harder, do you think, to recruit for the orchestra?

Is it harder now? The political situation now is much worse than 15

years ago. So the simple answer is, yes. The more complex answer is, it

is more complicated, rather than more difficult. Do you think it will

give an added a motion to tomorrow night's performance? Everyone is

watching Palestinians playing their instruments in harmony with Israelis

and vice versa -- added emotion. A few days ago we played in

Switzerland. In the middle of this, I realised, there comes the flute

solo, I looked and this group of Arabs in the orchestra were wishing

him the best and were trying to support him. And a few minutes

later, when it was the clarinet, the group of Israelis, as part of the

orchestra, supported him too. Where else do you have that? What do you

feel about boycotting arts events run by Israeli companies? I think I

can understand the impulse to boycott things that come from a

country that has not shown enough interest in advancing a peaceful

solution which many Palestinians rightly feel. I can understand that.

I think one has to differentiate between Israelis who represent the

government and cultural people or institutions that do not represent

the government. I think that to say I boycott everything that is

Israeli, though emotionally may be understandable, it is

counter-productive. I think it has to be very clearly defined and I

think above all it must not turn into an anti-Semitic tendency. I

think the wave of the so-called anti-Semitism, which is in fact

anti-Jewish, in the world, is unacceptable. Not only unacceptable

because of the history. In the end all its doors is give Hitler a

posthumous victory. In 2012 were part of the Olympic opening

ceremony. You brought harmony weather was discord and must've been

a big for you. Were you more optimistic then than now? I have

optimism because the world Nevers tops. It always continue. Everyone

who has his own personal tragedy in some way or other overcomes these

tragedies. And the world develops and goes on. If you tried to look

realistically, the world looks terrible now. It looks like the Pope

said, on the brink of a third world war. Ukraine, Iraq, the Middle East.

But we do not have the luxury of bathing in pessimism. We really do

not. It only makes it worse. We have to continue and when we do not

believe we have to make believe and eventually make our way.

It's the thing that politicians fear and we're told must never

But when it plummets, does that create

Figures out this morning revealed that consumer price

Much weaker than had been expected and well below the Bank of England's

So where does this all leave the prospect of interest rate increases?

Mark Carney's much heralded arrival as governor of the Bank was

a year ago now so does he still look like a white knight?

Our Economics Correspondent Duncan Weldon reports.

When will interest rates go up? Mark Carney, the Bank of England governor

since July last year, is the man supposed to have the answers. When

he took over he stressed our important it was that the bank was

clear on those things. -- how important. The monetary policy

committee must clear and transparent to avoid an unwarranted tightening

in interest rate expectations as the recovery gathers strength. One year

on the timings of rate rises are far from clear. Unexpectedly weak

inflation has added to the confusion. And some of the confusion

seems to be coming from the governor himself. We're looking at March for

the first right interest rates. But depending on what Mark Carney says

day by day, those are shifting significantly. When the so-called

rock star central banker was poached from Canada to come to the UK, few

expected such confusion. He is the most qualified person in the world

to be the next governor of the bank of England. Back when Mark Carney

was appointed the economy looked to be facing a triple dip recession.

How could he used monetary policy to boost growth? His big idea was

forward guidance. By pledging to keep interest rates low he helped to

increase confidence in consumers and businesses and persuade high street

banks to boost their own lending. But that pledge to keep rates low

for longer was based on a set of economic forecasts which rapidly

went off track. Forward guidance was first unveiled last year. The bank

was clear. It would not even consider raising interest rates

until unemployment fell below 7%. And it did not think that would

happen until 2016. But it happened earlier this year. So instead of

looking at the unemployment rate the bank said it would examine a range

of indicators of spare capacity in the economy. But those measures of

spare capacity started to fall fast. Now we have another new focus, this

time wages. At least one critical former member of the monetary

committee is not impressed. If you were to say we do not quite know

what is happening, things are complicated and we will follow the

data, you can give it a fancy name. But that is essentially what it

amounted to and in the end it has come down to an analysis of the

labour market and the central bank in the UK under Mark Carney has

looked hopeless. It has been taken by surprise. Mark Carney might be

the governor but the monetary policy committee actually takes the

decision and he is just one vote out of nine. And those nine members are

looking at different data. We watching so many metrics and many of

those running hot and many cold. It is a difficult task to unpick that.

There's no shame in getting your economic forecasts wrong. Most

economists get the forecasts wrong most of the time. What is starting

to bother critics of the governor is the feeling that the goalposts keep

moving. One day it is wages that matter, the next unemployment. In

one speech he reassures us that rates will remain low and then he

warns that they could have to rise. It is that perceived inconsistency

that led one MP to say he's acting like an unreliable boyfriend,

blowing hot and cold. So when will rates actually rise? Today we are no

closer to an answer. What can be said with confidence is that written

statements from the Bank of England have not exactly made the situation

any clearer. With me to discuss the prospects for forward guidance is a

former member of the monetary policy committee. Forward guidance turned

out not to be guidance at all? Guidance is difficult to go with

when the goalposts to keep changing. The narrative of the Bank of England

changes all the time was up there is inconsistency about what they are

trying to measure. When they talk about slack in the economy it is an

opaque thing and does move a lot. Mark Carney has undermined the

credibility of the bank with this? It was the wrong analysis of the

labour market for a start? You have to start with the analytical

problems. Forward guidance I forecast was going to be a mistake

because it focused on what the bank was doing rather than on the

forecasts. You have to put things in terms of the forecasts. As you noted

in that report a number of members of the monetary policy committee,

kept getting it wrong on the labour markets. They were pessimistic about

labour supply and about UK product safety and those were mistaken

ideas. It seems now that it is low interest rates at any cost. The

unemployment forecast is now 6.6. There is no question that will not

be rise in interest rates, is there? There is going to be a rise

and maybe now it will be February instead of November. But the bias of

the committee, not just Mark Carney, has been to say that there is no

slack left in the UK economy. It is quite a fake concept but as long as

they keep insisting on that then they will be biased towards interest

rate rises. What do you do about that? You hold fire and you phrased

things consistently in terms of forecasts. You say is not about what

I was about to do in future, you said we think growth is going to

lead to inflation only if productivity... It turns out

employment and productivity were better than we thought and that the

bubbly means we should revise our pessimism about the UK. That

probably means there is less inflation potential. You have to

make an argument and it is not that complicated. The other thing is you

do not talk so much. There's a question about why the governor is

always out there making a new statement every week. There is a

reason why central bank governors generally do not talk this often.

You do not want to create confusion. We all know George Osborne would

mark Carney to get him here. And now he is being encouraged to talk to

supposedly increase our confidence in the economy. He does talk a lot.

The forward -- the problem with forward guidance is that it brings

the decision very much into the public arena. Mark Carney is trying

to assure people that interest rates will not move as the economy

changes. That is perhaps why Ely he is providing so much narrative. The

problem with forward guidance if people have to believe it for a to

work. People do not really believe what Mark Carney is saying to a

certain extent. If they do not believe him... I want to emphasise

what people do believe and that is that inflation will stay low. So the

public and expectations of credibility of the bank have been

affected. If there is a doubt about Mark Carney it is the fact, is he

making political decisions, in a sense. Is he in cahoots with George

Osborne who does not want interest rates to rise? I think the problem

is not with him but with forward guidance. There are problems around

communication. We've seen it happen before. The messages that people are

trying to get across. The problem lies with forward guidance itself

rather than with Mark Carney. In terms of whether interest rates will

rise, market now expected to be in the early part of next year. There

is still a chance it could happen this year. Mark Carney is saying he

is looking for wage growth. If you have wage growth that does not

actually materialise, low wages and rising house prices and even a

quarter percent increase in interest rates, up to 1 million families will

be hurting with their mortgages in the lead up to a general election? I

think the Bank of England is supposed to be an independent body

and will not focus on the general election. Is that the

consideration? I think the only consideration is you do not move

rates right to run the election. You do not get right in the middle of an

election and I -- and I think that is fair and reasonable. But it is a

political move? Not at all. It is a party neutral move. You can raise

rates in March, June, February. Just not raising them and cause a

disruption right at the time of an election. That is not biased towards

any one party and it is not about affecting the election. It is the

central bank making the best choice it can to stay out of politics.

"We over-policed for a few days, and then we completely under-policed."

That's the verdict by the Missouri Democrat Senator Claire MCCaskill

on the police tactics following the fatal shooting of unarmed black

Today a top UN Human Rights official Navi Pillay, speaking in Geneva,

said that the clashes between police and protestors in Ferguson were

reminiscient of the racial violence spawned by apartheid in her native

South Africa and called for an examination of the "root causes" of

This is surely the last thing anyone wanted. A few hours ago the police

in St Louis Missouri shot and killed a 23-year-old Lachmann, an event

that may inflame an already tense local situation. -- black man. For

more than a week Ferguson, a modest suburb of the city, has been wracked

by protests. And sometimes violence. The unrest has provoked a ferocious

police response. Last night there were 31 arrests.

Protesters are peaceful and respectful. They do not clash with

police. They do not throw Molotov cocktails. This rage was ignited by

the killing of Michael Brown, an unarmed like a teenager, by Darren

Wilson, a white police officer. On the 9th of August the recent high

school graduate was shot six times. And his death has opened up once

again the question of race in modern America. Of course I'm heartbroken

to watch it but I cannot say I'm shocked. There has been simmering

racial tension building in St Louis for years if not decades. Probably

longer than that. This is something that for a lot of people who have

paid attention to these issues, frankly, St Louis has been a

powderkeg and something like this was almost bound to happen. Ferguson

is a poor town and an empty one as well. Since 1970 the proposition is

fallen by a quarter to about 21,000 people. But it only stayed that high

because like families moved from the decaying city of St Louis. The

majority black population occurred. Now two thirds of the town. But you

would not know it to look at the people building the power. Look at

the local school board and the city council. Of the 53 police officers

in the town just four of them are black. Meanwhile black citizens

account for 86% of all police stops. Having been stopped back people are

less like it to be caught carrying contraband but there are twice as

likely to be arrested. So just how unusual is the political imbalance

in Ferguson on race? I examined a data set from 2001 consisting of all

American cities with a population of more than 10,000. And examined the

relationship between the percent of the city's opposition that is

African-American and the percent of the city council that is

African-American. Usually about 60% of the city and African-American you

would tend to see Radha the City Council being African American.

Ferguson was very different and really stood out from the trend.

Back in 2001 at any rate, it had just over 50% of its population

African-American and not African Americans on the city council. So

why do black voters not just vote for more black leaders? There is

certainly quite dominated clique that has controlled politics. They

are tied in with the Labour unions. And these labour unions tend to get

a lot of jobs from public sector construction and other contracts.

Because they're able to do well there are then able to help fund

campaigns of favoured allies and keep re-electing them to office.

That ends up marginalising most of the black population. One can only

hope these exchanges seized today. The racial goblins in Ferguson and

St Louis cannot be solved overnight. -- problems. It is amazing how some

politicians come forth with views they have been harbouring for many

years. Austin Mitchell has to sided to get his concerns about the

feminisation of Parliament off his chest. He wrote in the Mail on

Sunday, the Commons will be more preoccupied with the local and small

problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from

obsessive feminism, women MPs are more preoccupied with the local and

small problems rather than big ideas and issues. He went on, apart from

obsessive feminism, women MPs R but it might not make us tougher. Austin

Mitchell joins us from Leeds. Stella Creasy, MP is here. Austin Mitchell

first of all, why do you think women will be more preoccupied with small

problems? Parliament is going that way anyway. We are becoming more

like social workers than international statesman. I think it

is right to contradict what you said in the introduction to the

programmes that the number of women should be increased. Labour has done

very well at that and all women short lists have been a good way of

doing it but they are democratic. The choice that local constituencies

have, it is the only one real power they do have, the choice is very

limited. They short lists are very short. My argument is that we have

done a lot, we have got the proportion of women up to 43% of the

Labour Party. It is time now to let the parties choose who they want and

call it a day. That is all I'm saying. I am surprised at the

assault from my colleagues, as if I was attacking a sacred item. This is

an article in the Mail on Sunday you wrote yourself. Stella Creasy, do

you recognise you and other women are more concerned with small

problems rather than big ideas? Are lies the drip drip, drip of

discrimination and prejudice that women face in every sphere. I read

it in sadness when I realised it had been written by you, Austin

You are a male MP, Austin. If I said you think exactly the same things as

Tony Blair, you would be horrified. Why don't you accord the same

privilege to women? Don't hate me and hector me. I am sorry, there's

the sound turned up, I am not shouting. I am frustrated that yet

again we are seeing women being put down in this way. It is an all women

short list that replaced Austin and a former aide to Ed Miliband will be

in his constituency. Does he have a point that however laudable all

women short lists are, they are not entirely democratic? There are still

more men sat in Parliament today than there have ever been women

MPs. What he is displaying is a great example of a study that Susan

Sarandon did that if a room had 20% women in the ready room thought it

was 50-50. If it has 30 stone women, the men think it is more women than

men -- if it has 50% women. Labour MPs in Westminster do you think they

hold the same view as you? Possibly. I have not asked them. The

problem is really with the Conservative and Liberal parties.

Let us stick with you. They have not increased the number of women. It is

their turn to do something. Let local parties choose whether they

want to have a longer short lists with more choice of different types

of... Tell me, how many women is asked doing our duty in a party that

is designed to promote social justice? Is there a particular

number? I am not going to say the proportion. The proportion of women

will be over 40%, about 43%. Not parity, not equality, that is

enough, is it? I am not suggesting we should have... Let me move on. It

damages us all. Countries more equal or more prosperous. We have been

thrown massive recession. Having more diverse decision-making is good

for everyone and that is the challenge we face. The Tories and

the Liberals cannot get their act together, that is no excuse for us

not to press on and stand for what we stand for. You said women are

more amenable and readable. I can't get a word in. We need to increase

the number of women. I agree with Stella. It is no use going on in

this kind of fashion. I think women probably are Morley double. The

problem will come if we have a 1974 situation or 1951 situation where

Labour does not have a powerful majority -- I think women probably

are more lead above. We are living in 2014. I am really sad you said

this. I really enjoyed being on the Public Accounts Committee with you,

with a really strong female chair, Margaret Hodge. She was not

leaderboard. We are seeing the drip, drip, drip. Whether it is you,

Johnson Johnson, women are being second-guessed by their gender. I do

not think women standing for selection should have to either. Do

you attract the article? Excluding men altogether on an all women short

lists, that is the problem. Is it democratic to exclude one half? Do

you think open selections are done on merit? Every political party...

Most countries have a quota system because most recognised it is an

incredibly solvable problem. We have made 4% progress in 15 years. Very

quickly, put the record straight, would you like to see far more women

in Parliament? Would you like to see 50%... Let him reply. I would. It is

up to the Conservatives and Liberals to have more women on their side. On

the Labour side, let us give it a rest and see whether... The barriers

have been broken down enough. The last time we had all women short

lists, the number increased after we stopped using them. When we stopped

using them in 2001, it fell. There is nothing else that makes the

difference. Let me have the right to say something on this programme and

give local parties the right to choose who they want. Thank you very

much indeed. Now, reports reaching us tonight that Islamic State

insurgents have released a video that they claim shows the beheading

of a US journalist who went missing in Syria almost two years ago. The

video entitled Message To America was posted on social media sites. We

should stress that at the moment we have no way of verifying the

authenticity of the video and a Twitter account that had been set up

by the man's family to help find him has called for patience until the

authenticity of the video can be established. Of course we will not

be showing it, but what has happened? James Foley was a

freelance journalist working in the Middle East for a number of years.

He went missing in late November, 2012. His family had not heard from

her since -- from him since. Islamic State released a video today in

which it claims to execute him, beheading him. We cannot, as you

say, confirm it is him. His family through Twitter have said they are

waiting. We can see a picture of James himself. But we do not know if

this is the same person shown in the video. We do not even know yet if

the video is legitimate. That is right. There is no indication when

it was taken. All we know is it was released today and that it seems

quite possible that it was filmed in either Iraq either Syria. The video

claims the execution was carried out in response to US air strikes

against Islamic State in Iraq and for many people it will bring back

memories of for example very gruesome videos of a British civil

engineer Ken Bigley executed by Al-Qaeda in Iraq in 2004. IS are

claiming to be holding another journalist but we have nobody tell,

is that correct? There is a lot of speculation about what is happening

and counterclaims. That is in the interests of groups like Islamic

State to say they have people in their possession in order to gain

leveraged. One thing I should add is that the respected legend that the

execute may have been speaking with a British accent. We cannot it. But

I have spoken personally to Brits fighting in Iraq with Islamic State

so it is not something we can rule out. Thank you. The front pages,

obviously that story does not make them, it is too late, but the Daily

Mail, Cilla Black, I know my pal is innocent. New violence as US police

kill a second man in St Louis. NHS faces funding cut if Scotland says

yes. And the Daily Mail, last of all, nurses on home visits cult to

ask elderly people, do you want us to let you die? -- nurses on home

visits to ask elderly people. That is it tonight. We end with a

mysterious YouTube megastar known as Disney Collector. Her movies

comprise of nothing more than her hands taking various toys out of

packaging. Why is it in anyway interesting? Is not. Except the

YouTube channel has somehow clocked up in a billion fits. -- hits. We

have no idea why it has got so many. The last surprise is from Jake

in the Netherlands. Let us see what we have got here. Hopefully we got

another toy. In we go. Jake. This is awesome.

It is going to be a cold start in the morning. For many, a sunny start

and find no. Sprinkling of showers. -- fine day. Many will avoid the

showers and stay dry. A mixture of sunny intervals and showers for

Northern Ireland and Scotland. More persistent rain in the north-west

later. Shelter through the central belt, most places dry and bright.

Even with sunshine, temperatures only 16 degrees. The winds may be a

touch lighter than today. A spring clean of showers over the Midlands,

East Anglia and the south-east. They will be scattered. Many places

avoiding them. Maybe 19, 20 in one or two places. Wales, a scattering

of showers. A scattering of showers. They the winds they touch lighter

than today. -- the winds. Showers more concentrated on Thursday on

Northern Britain. Again it will feel cool. Further south, the showers

will be well scattered. Decent chance of a dry day. Decent spells

of sunshine early on across parts of the south and east. It will be a

cold start to Thursday. Then the showers will develop more widely

across northern areas. Temperatures only in the