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No official confirmation on that Russian plane yet, but today | :00:00. | :00:07. | |
the world went from asking "was it downed by a bomb" to answering "yes, | :00:08. | :00:11. | |
A week after the crash of the Metrojet flight, senior | :00:12. | :00:20. | |
French aviation officials close to the investigation are ruling out | :00:21. | :00:22. | |
We are seeing more and more signs that | :00:23. | :00:28. | |
the accident may have been caused by an explosion on board the aircraft. | :00:29. | :00:35. | |
And Russia has done an about turn, now stopping all | :00:36. | :00:37. | |
We'll get the latest from Russia and Egypt and ask | :00:38. | :00:44. | |
whether aviation is now in for a new period of heightened alert. | :00:45. | :00:49. | |
And on Artsnight, the artistic director of the Donmar Warehouse, | :00:50. | :00:53. | |
Josie Rourke, looks at the role of the hero in drama and talks to | :00:54. | :00:56. | |
Tom Hiddleston about his latest role as country singer Hank Williams. | :00:57. | :01:02. | |
Hank has a rebelliousness that I don't have. | :01:03. | :01:06. | |
I am too English and too well brought up, probably. | :01:07. | :01:09. | |
Do you think you will acquire that with age? | :01:10. | :01:11. | |
I don't know that I will ever walk out of an interview. | :01:12. | :01:15. | |
It is now looking highly probable that the Metrojet Flight | :01:16. | :01:34. | |
The voice recorders are said to point to that. | :01:35. | :01:40. | |
Officials from France close to the investigation say it was not | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
The Americans have come round to the British view of the intelligence | :01:44. | :01:53. | |
And the first sign that the possibility of a bomb had been | :01:54. | :01:57. | |
elevated to a probability was the news from Russia that the country | :01:58. | :02:00. | |
Having criticised Britain for acting prematurely in stopping | :02:01. | :02:07. | |
flights to Sharm el-Sheikh, Russia abruptly announced that it was | :02:08. | :02:10. | |
Gabriel Gatehouse is in St Petersburg for us, where | :02:11. | :02:13. | |
Gabriel, to what extent what the Russians interpreting this sudden | :02:14. | :02:24. | |
move to stop all flights to Egypt, to what extent with the interpreting | :02:25. | :02:28. | |
that is a sign that Russia believes this was a bomb? Well, it is quite | :02:29. | :02:37. | |
an about turn. Yesterday, chastising the British for jumping the gun and | :02:38. | :02:42. | |
now going much further than anyone in stopping all flights to Egypt. | :02:43. | :02:47. | |
Officially, the Kremlin still says this does not mean it was either was | :02:48. | :02:51. | |
not a bomb, they are going on a fact -based basis and following the | :02:52. | :02:56. | |
investigation and the Russian press still not speculating about whether | :02:57. | :03:01. | |
this means this was a bomb. They talk about how Russian tour | :03:02. | :03:03. | |
operators will go bust but if you look at the sequence of events | :03:04. | :03:08. | |
today, you see that, this morning, a bit of wreckage from the crash was | :03:09. | :03:12. | |
flown into Moscow which was to be examined for traces of explosives | :03:13. | :03:16. | |
and later this evening we see the head of the FSB suggesting to that | :03:17. | :03:22. | |
Putin that he stops flights and he readily agrees to that and the whole | :03:23. | :03:27. | |
thing moves on so when you look at how fast this has moved, it is | :03:28. | :03:31. | |
difficult to come to any other conclusion. Reports tonight say that | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
the British and Americans shared some intelligence with the Russians | :03:37. | :03:38. | |
before this decision was made public, but either way it seems hard | :03:39. | :03:44. | |
to come to any other conclusion and on the streets here in Russia when | :03:45. | :03:47. | |
you speak to people, most people seem to come to that conclusion | :03:48. | :03:52. | |
anyway. Thank you. We will hear more from Gabriel later on. | :03:53. | :03:55. | |
Well, there is a news conference due at 3pm tomorrow afternoon in Cairo. | :03:56. | :03:58. | |
The chairman of the Egyptian-led probe into the plane crash will be | :03:59. | :04:01. | |
speaking along with the civil aviation minister. | :04:02. | :04:03. | |
We'll see what comes out of that, but if a bomb has killed 224 people | :04:04. | :04:08. | |
on a plane, it will undoubtedly lead to renewed anxieties about aviation | :04:09. | :04:13. | |
security and the issue of smaller airports with less robust | :04:14. | :04:16. | |
There have been many attempts to bring planes down in recent years. | :04:17. | :04:23. | |
The shoe bomber, the liquid explosive bomb plot, | :04:24. | :04:25. | |
But the last flights actually to be brought down in | :04:26. | :04:33. | |
a comparable way were two domestic Russian flights back in 2004. | :04:34. | :04:36. | |
David Grossman has been looking at the investigation into this | :04:37. | :04:38. | |
flight and the implications that may be emerging from it. | :04:39. | :04:46. | |
I ran the water, the theory of a bomb on the plane has gained ground. | :04:47. | :04:54. | |
There is a possibility that there is a bomb. On board. From being | :04:55. | :05:02. | |
critical of David Cameron's response, the Russian government | :05:03. | :05:05. | |
joined the British in cancelling flights and preparing to bring its | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
national song. Tonight, senior aviation officials close to the | :05:10. | :05:12. | |
investigation have told the BBC that they have ruled out the possibility | :05:13. | :05:16. | |
that there was any fault or technical issue with the plane that | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
led to the crash. The full investigation will focus on every | :05:21. | :05:26. | |
aspect of the accident and will also be looking for a possible structural | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
failure not caused by a bomb but we are seeing more and more signs that | :05:33. | :05:39. | |
the accident may have been caused by an explosion on board the aircraft. | :05:40. | :05:43. | |
The investigation will focus on three main areas. Firstly, sifting | :05:44. | :05:50. | |
through as far as possible and reconstructing the wreckage, looking | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
at how the fabric of the plane has been burned and misshapen, finding | :05:54. | :05:57. | |
the centre of an explosion. Secondly, adding that the flight | :05:58. | :06:01. | |
data and recorders. According to the Russian news agency, the latter have | :06:02. | :06:07. | |
been found with uncharacteristic signs that suggests an emergency | :06:08. | :06:10. | |
situation occurred on board unexpectedly and it took the crew by | :06:11. | :06:14. | |
surprise. The third source will be detailed examinations of the bodies | :06:15. | :06:20. | |
of the 224 people who died. The condition and position of the | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
victims can offer significant clues. And this process is not quick. This | :06:26. | :06:32. | |
is the wreckage from MH17, destroyed over Ukraine in July 2014, being | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
pieced back together. The initial assessment, determining the cause as | :06:37. | :06:41. | |
an external exposure, to cover one month. The final report, blaming a | :06:42. | :06:45. | |
rocket launcher fired by Russian backed rebels, is only published | :06:46. | :06:52. | |
last month, 15 months afterwards. The Russian investigators will have | :06:53. | :06:54. | |
some experience in this regard, the Russians lost two domestic passenger | :06:55. | :07:05. | |
flights in 2004 from Moscow to Sochi and both of those were taken down by | :07:06. | :07:09. | |
female suicide warmers and when they did analysis they discovered the | :07:10. | :07:14. | |
classic signature evidence of an internal explosion and you had metal | :07:15. | :07:21. | |
curling outwards, the blast effect, and the residue of high explosives. | :07:22. | :07:28. | |
In this case, the Egyptians, Russians and the Irish air crash | :07:29. | :07:32. | |
investigators on site will be looking for all of those tell-tale | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
signs. If this is the first plane destroyed by a bomb for over one | :07:38. | :07:41. | |
decade, it will most certainly lead to significant changes to the regime | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
governing airport security. We have seen the rules change in the past. | :07:48. | :07:50. | |
For example, on liquids, in response to known threats. It can cause an | :07:51. | :07:57. | |
airline, for example, to be placed on the European no-fly list, on a | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
list of airlines that are not allowed to operate into the EU. And, | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
well, who knows what this change will bring? Perhaps it will change | :08:11. | :08:17. | |
security as well and it will mean that countries have to explain and | :08:18. | :08:23. | |
prove that they are capable of conducting proper security measures | :08:24. | :08:27. | |
at all of their airports before any flights can be conducted from these | :08:28. | :08:34. | |
countries into Europe. The Egyptian government is increasingly isolated | :08:35. | :08:36. | |
tonight in its refusal to acknowledge that the likelihood is a | :08:37. | :08:42. | |
bomb that caused this disaster. The invitations for the tourist industry | :08:43. | :08:46. | |
and for global aviation security are set to be far-reaching. We can pick | :08:47. | :08:52. | |
up on some of those issues. Here with me now are Andrew Brookes | :08:53. | :08:54. | |
from RUSI, and from Cairo, Middle If I can start with you, the | :08:55. | :09:07. | |
indications for Egypt, there are so many. I think that is a very bad | :09:08. | :09:15. | |
place to begin for the Egyptians. The local population within the | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
Sinai area lives from the tourism industry tremendously and across the | :09:20. | :09:24. | |
country, the tourism industry will be hit very badly, simply by what | :09:25. | :09:29. | |
has happened so far. Just the very suggestion that security is not what | :09:30. | :09:33. | |
it should be banned that an attack would have taken place, just that | :09:34. | :09:37. | |
suggestion being flooded before all of these close to confirmation | :09:38. | :09:43. | |
suggestions has already hit the tourism industry and people who work | :09:44. | :09:46. | |
in that industry are being hurt tremendously already. It has been | :09:47. | :09:52. | |
very strange that this has occurred whilst President Sese has been here | :09:53. | :09:55. | |
in London, just an awful week for him. And for diplomacy between Egypt | :09:56. | :10:04. | |
and the UK and other countries? I think the curry was particularly | :10:05. | :10:10. | |
annoyed that London declared that we think there was a high mobility or a | :10:11. | :10:16. | |
more likely than not possibility that this was a bomb. -- Cairo. | :10:17. | :10:21. | |
Having said that, I do not think that Cairo can stand by that any | :10:22. | :10:25. | |
longer on every PC that so many other countries, including Russia, | :10:26. | :10:28. | |
have also taken steps that are even stronger than the British response. | :10:29. | :10:33. | |
Indeed, it is not a particularly good week for London - Cairo | :10:34. | :10:40. | |
diplomacy or current's diplomacy with the international community | :10:41. | :10:42. | |
when it comes to promoting Egypt as a safe place for tourism and one | :10:43. | :10:46. | |
that the international committee should send tourists to. Andrew. How | :10:47. | :10:54. | |
important is this for aviation and the industry? It is seminal, since | :10:55. | :11:03. | |
September the 11th, we have focused on people getting on board and being | :11:04. | :11:07. | |
suicide bombers and we have spent a lot of time, ground site, screening | :11:08. | :11:13. | |
and checking, over checking, double-checking, to prevent that | :11:14. | :11:16. | |
happening and we are also reverting to those pre-9/11 days and somebody | :11:17. | :11:22. | |
put a bomb on board and walked away, like Lockerbie. You must protect the | :11:23. | :11:31. | |
airfield, that is airside. That will impose a lot of extra cost and time | :11:32. | :11:34. | |
delays around the world at every airport. One of the issues | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
highlighted in this is however much security you put in an airport like | :11:40. | :11:44. | |
Heathrow, that does get the planes flying out but there are also planes | :11:45. | :11:47. | |
flying in from places that are considerably less robust? Has this | :11:48. | :11:51. | |
been an issue that people have been worried about? We have been sending | :11:52. | :11:56. | |
inspectors to Sharm el-Sheikh? To look at this? How much precaution | :11:57. | :12:03. | |
has been taken? We have the airlines, 30 years ago, well-known | :12:04. | :12:08. | |
airlines, they were called White knuckle, gripping in fear, but | :12:09. | :12:12. | |
because the CAA checks everything that comes in, foreign airlines are | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
looked at and they are grounded if they were no good so you can sort | :12:17. | :12:20. | |
out those airlines but you cannot sort out those airfields and make | :12:21. | :12:24. | |
sure that ground side as well as airside, everywhere, and this is no | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
reflection on Egypt, there are lots of gaps at airports and does not | :12:28. | :12:33. | |
take many people to be able to sneak through the system and put their at | :12:34. | :12:38. | |
risk. Can you imagine a situation in which there are blacklisted airports | :12:39. | :12:44. | |
around the place? I can see... It will be a diplomatic embarrassment, | :12:45. | :12:48. | |
if the West goes in and says, but don't trust you. It'll be like trip | :12:49. | :12:54. | |
advisor a different way, we will write these people up. People will | :12:55. | :12:58. | |
want to know this. People will want to know that they get a 5-star | :12:59. | :13:02. | |
rating, they will welcome this and take the advice, as long as it is | :13:03. | :13:06. | |
discreet and diplomatically done. It should work. Do you think that, | :13:07. | :13:15. | |
assuming this is a bomb of some kind, is this an Egypt issue? Sinai? | :13:16. | :13:22. | |
Or is this bigger? Some sort of Islamist issue that could have | :13:23. | :13:25. | |
occurred in a number of airports around the region? It is early to | :13:26. | :13:31. | |
tell but what we could see earlier today is another video being | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
released, apparently by an Isis affiliate from Aleppo in Syria, | :13:37. | :13:43. | |
congratulating Sinai province. They did congratulate Butler was no | :13:44. | :13:46. | |
evidence within that video that showed that they were actually | :13:47. | :13:52. | |
responsible. Now, we do not know who actually carried the site, if there | :13:53. | :13:56. | |
was a bomb. We do not know who would have been responsible for this so it | :13:57. | :14:00. | |
is too early to tell. Is this about Sinai? There is an insurgency in | :14:01. | :14:06. | |
Sinai. It is not around Sharm el-Sheikh, it is further north and | :14:07. | :14:11. | |
Sinai is a huge piece of territory but Isis is active in Sinai. Is it | :14:12. | :14:16. | |
in Egypt? There are other parts of Egypt where Isis is trying to target | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
and we could see the attack on Italian Consulate earlier in the | :14:22. | :14:24. | |
year and in the western desert. But Isis is active across the region, | :14:25. | :14:28. | |
you can see this in Tunisia and Libya, especially in the north of | :14:29. | :14:32. | |
Libya, you can see this in Syria and Iraq and you can see different cells | :14:33. | :14:37. | |
trying to claim precedence in different areas and I think the | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
issue of religion Islamist extremism will be a problem that the region | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
and the world will have to deal with. | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
in three words, would you might -- would you put much credence in ices | :14:51. | :14:58. | |
saying they did it or should that be ignored? i would not ignore it but | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
we do not have confirmation it was isis who did it, it could have been | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
somebody else, another group. it is too early to tell. even if it was | :15:08. | :15:13. | |
not, they have succeeded in a pr coup by causing us to discuss them | :15:14. | :15:17. | |
in that fashion anyway. thank you both very much. | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
It is Russia that suffered the casualties a week ago | :15:20. | :15:22. | |
and Russia that has been sensitive to the speculation over causes | :15:23. | :15:24. | |
That partly stems from its intervention in Syria, prompting | :15:25. | :15:27. | |
questions over whether that could have provoked a response from IS. | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
So the action Russia took today stopping flights to Egypt | :15:35. | :15:36. | |
Gabriel Gatehouse sent us this report from St Petersburg. | :15:37. | :15:42. | |
Another aeroplane landed today, bringing back to Russia yet more | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
It also brought with it part of the wreckage from Sinai to test | :15:46. | :15:53. | |
Could this test have prompted this evening's decision by the Kremlin | :15:54. | :15:59. | |
At an impromptu shrine outside the airport in St Petersburg, they | :16:00. | :16:05. | |
People who, in most cases, were strangers until last week | :16:06. | :16:11. | |
but whose faces are now becoming part of the national consciousness. | :16:12. | :16:14. | |
The government had, until today, played down suggestions | :16:15. | :16:19. | |
of a bomb on board but most people here seem instinctively to believe | :16:20. | :16:22. | |
I think it must have been terrorism, this woman says. | :16:23. | :16:32. | |
Both told me they think it was linked to the war in Syria. | :16:33. | :16:42. | |
In Saint Petersburg and other nearby towns, they are only just | :16:43. | :16:45. | |
Only a small number of bodies have been properly | :16:46. | :16:48. | |
Many of the victims' relatives have been coming here to this hotel next | :16:49. | :16:55. | |
to the airport, looking for answers from the authorities. | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
They will have to wait for DNA analysis before they can properly | :17:02. | :17:07. | |
Some of the relatives are still in there. | :17:08. | :17:11. | |
They do not want to appear on camera but there is a lot of anger, | :17:12. | :17:15. | |
I have just spoken to one woman who lost her daughter and she said to | :17:16. | :17:20. | |
They poke their nose into everything, into Syria, into | :17:21. | :17:26. | |
Saint Petersburg, Russia's old imperial capital, | :17:27. | :17:33. | |
Whatever the cause of the crash, this was his country's worst ever | :17:34. | :17:40. | |
We must all stick together now and support each other. | :17:41. | :17:53. | |
And amid this feeling of solidarity, there is also anger at the West, | :17:54. | :17:57. | |
at what some see as a less than sympathetic response. | :17:58. | :18:00. | |
The Americans have imposed sanctions on us but Obama should have had | :18:01. | :18:09. | |
the guts to offer his condolences to the Russian people. | :18:10. | :18:11. | |
Since the start of Moscow's military campaign | :18:12. | :18:18. | |
in Syria, the Russian public has been fed a daily diet of patriotic | :18:19. | :18:25. | |
newsreels with Putin portrayed as a man of decisive action, saving | :18:26. | :18:27. | |
To tell you the truth, we don't have a lot of things to be | :18:28. | :18:37. | |
Our economy is in crisis and now our government tries to draw | :18:38. | :18:42. | |
the attention of the population to the conflict | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
And the main idea is that Russia is becoming a superpower. | :18:45. | :18:55. | |
Opinion polls suggest that Mr Putin's decision to go to war | :18:56. | :18:57. | |
But if the plane crash over Sinai does turn out to be some sort | :18:58. | :19:05. | |
of payback for the Russian campaign in Syria, | :19:06. | :19:07. | |
then Putin's aura of invincibility begins to slip and Russians will | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
Joining me now is Dr Domitilla Sagramoso, a lecturer | :19:11. | :19:21. | |
in Russian security and development at King's College London. | :19:22. | :19:32. | |
if it turns out that this action is caused or prompted by russian | :19:33. | :19:41. | |
intervention in syria, what would be the consequences of that? i think it | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
will be very serious because people in russian will question the | :19:49. | :19:52. | |
intervention of putin in syria although it might not come in the | :19:53. | :19:54. | |
media. It was all very sanitised on | :19:55. | :20:15. | |
television with Russian casualties. It was popular to a certain extent | :20:16. | :20:18. | |
because Russia was trying to resolve the problem. And the police were | :20:19. | :20:26. | |
standing up... If it was related to Syria, what behavioural response | :20:27. | :20:29. | |
with their beef from Vladimir Putin? More action in Syria? He will not | :20:30. | :20:37. | |
say OK? . Those interventions? Yes, on the one hand, I think we bring | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
the Syrian walk back onto Russia so he will have a very difficult line | :20:43. | :20:49. | |
to move through because on the one hand, he will not want to have more | :20:50. | :20:55. | |
casualties but at the same time, his track record shows that he tends to | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
react quite strongly whenever there have been terrorist attacks against | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
Russians. I would expect probably that he will continue to increase | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
the bombings, he might focus much more on the Isis area where so far | :21:09. | :21:13. | |
he has not really been focusing very much and there is this paradox that | :21:14. | :21:19. | |
to a certain extent, Russia has avoided bombing Isis and if it is | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
proven that an Isis affiliated group is behind it, it is unclear to | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
understand. This has caused tension. Could it | :21:28. | :21:39. | |
bring Russia and the West together? Everybody is worried about ones on | :21:40. | :21:45. | |
planes and that would be a shared interest or Syria becomes even more | :21:46. | :21:48. | |
divisive. There is a very high chance there is a stronger effort to | :21:49. | :21:53. | |
work together because of the awareness of this kind of threat | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
which is common to Russia and the West. Also because Putin will think | :21:57. | :22:02. | |
that besides increasing or continuing with a bombing campaign, | :22:03. | :22:05. | |
he will need to put pressure on President Assad to reap at a | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
political settlement. And last week, we saw Russia working more actively | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
with the West in the field of the gauche Asians so I think that part | :22:17. | :22:25. | |
might be strengthened. -- field of negotiations. I feel a greater | :22:26. | :22:29. | |
readiness of both sides to work and we have seen changes in Russia, in | :22:30. | :22:35. | |
readiness to support, to provide air support to the so-called Free Syrian | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
Army so we have seen changes on the Russian behaviour in Syria. Russia | :22:39. | :22:43. | |
has had a lot of hideous terrorist atrocities and tragedies. How big a | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
psychological scar? 224 people is big. I think this is going to leave | :22:51. | :22:56. | |
a very strong psychological scar because it was quite a while these | :22:57. | :23:00. | |
kind of attacks were occurring in Russia. We had bombings in the metro | :23:01. | :23:07. | |
in 2010, 2013. But it seemed to calm down. In such it, there was talk | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
about the Olympics and we had an attack -- in Saatchi. Not as attack | :23:14. | :23:19. | |
as people expected. And in the North Caucasus, the situation has come | :23:20. | :23:22. | |
down so people were starting to get used to a more secure and safe | :23:23. | :23:27. | |
environment, and we used to travelling abroad, now they will | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
worry about travelling abroad and security generally. It is going to | :23:31. | :23:35. | |
affect them very much and people are going to be quite very worried about | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
this event. Thank you very much. That's all we'll have | :23:38. | :23:39. | |
on the plane story tonight, but of course it is one that | :23:40. | :23:41. | |
the News Channel and BBC online will Now, never let it be said we don't | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
offer a broad cultural education It's Grime tonight, | :23:46. | :23:49. | |
a genre of music that originated It draws on a number | :23:50. | :23:54. | |
of different styles - garage, drum It's pacey when measured | :23:55. | :23:58. | |
in beats per minute or bpm. And it's often characterised | :23:59. | :24:03. | |
by dark, low basslines That's a few descriptive facts, | :24:04. | :24:05. | |
unfortunately, they don't tell you anything | :24:06. | :24:14. | |
about what Grime is really about. Or how it became diluted | :24:15. | :24:15. | |
in the last decade. Or how it's now rediscovering | :24:16. | :24:17. | |
itself, and possibly becoming But someone who can tell you | :24:18. | :24:20. | |
about all those things is the Radio 1 DJ and Grime afficionado Pete | :24:21. | :24:25. | |
Dalton, best known as MistaJam. # London calling to the faraway | :24:26. | :24:29. | |
towns... # A youth culture movement birthed | :24:30. | :24:37. | |
from the street, giving voice to But it's not the '70s | :24:38. | :24:42. | |
and I'm not talking about punk. For today and the past decade, | :24:43. | :24:50. | |
the sound is Grime. In its rawest form, | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
it's having a resurgence. With a sound steeped | :24:55. | :24:58. | |
in its own history. And in 2015, | :24:59. | :25:01. | |
it's threatening to go global. # Went to the show, | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
sitting in the front row... # If you see a kid wearing Nike, | :25:05. | :25:08. | |
that's Grime to me. All that, everything that you see | :25:09. | :25:16. | |
from our generation is Grime. The sky's the limit for Grime right | :25:17. | :25:23. | |
now. This is Roman Road in East | :25:24. | :25:31. | |
London, the epicentre for the genesis | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
of the movement, culture In New York | :25:36. | :25:36. | |
in the early '70s, the South Bronx was to hip-hop what this place right | :25:37. | :25:44. | |
here, Bow E3, is to Grime. Taking cues | :25:45. | :25:48. | |
from Jamaican Sound System culture, Grime was crafted from clashes and | :25:49. | :25:57. | |
MC battles in inner-city London and which started in the basement of | :25:58. | :25:59. | |
Grime artist Jammer's family home. We were just a voice, | :26:00. | :26:10. | |
we were just the kids that would be in London, that would | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
experience some things that weren't We wanted to make our way out | :26:16. | :26:17. | |
and wanted to get out to free the frustration, | :26:18. | :26:22. | |
rather than going out there and damaging things and robbing | :26:23. | :26:24. | |
people and doing all these things, we'd go and release it on record | :26:25. | :26:27. | |
and let that anger go in the music. # Break everybody down, take | :26:28. | :26:32. | |
everybody down # Any crew, any MC | :26:33. | :26:34. | |
crew, I break down However, this raw, energetic sound | :26:35. | :26:36. | |
increasingly led to fears from venues and licensing police that | :26:37. | :26:40. | |
the music was inciting violence Coupled with the lack | :26:41. | :26:42. | |
of infrastructure and wider music industry support, | :26:43. | :26:47. | |
the original Grime sound was locked # If you work hard, then you can be | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
like me... # When you look at it superficially, | :26:51. | :26:57. | |
you're seeing working class kids It's 140 bpm, so it's going to | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
come across more aggressively It's the same with music back then, | :27:01. | :27:05. | |
you know. A lot of that message was | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
about frustration. It just felt like everyone was | :27:12. | :27:15. | |
against us, all the clubs and the police were shutting us | :27:16. | :27:22. | |
down for whatever reason. We're just guys | :27:23. | :27:26. | |
from the street trying to get out Released at the turn of the decade, | :27:27. | :27:28. | |
Dizzee Rascal tracks like Bonkers reflected many Grime | :27:29. | :27:35. | |
artists' shift to a more commercially | :27:36. | :27:37. | |
acceptable sound after being shut Not inspired by the commercial pop | :27:38. | :27:38. | |
sound adopted by some of the early Grime artists, a new generation have | :27:39. | :27:47. | |
truly taken the bull by the horns and created the sound right back to | :27:48. | :27:54. | |
where it started - the streets, leading to the titans | :27:55. | :27:57. | |
of hip-hop truly paying attention. And perhaps most importantly, | :27:58. | :28:01. | |
success, but without conflicts. In 2015, Grime reached millions | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
of new ears when Kanye West invited artists such as Stormzy, | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
Jammer and Skepta onto the stage Whilst before, it was played in | :28:10. | :28:12. | |
basement sessions to a dozen people in Bow, Grime is now headlining huge | :28:13. | :28:24. | |
venues across the country. Like in Leeds, for 1Xtra Live, | :28:25. | :28:28. | |
where over 10,000 people came to see Back then, I could never have | :28:29. | :28:31. | |
imagined where we are now. It was more just like a hobby, | :28:32. | :28:39. | |
something to do. Like, I was a kid in college, | :28:40. | :28:44. | |
going to Top of the Pops, Little did I know 11 years on, | :28:45. | :28:47. | |
I'm at Leeds Arena, about to perform in front | :28:48. | :28:52. | |
of 12,000 people, untold shows. My gigs are now music lovers, | :28:53. | :28:56. | |
Grime fans. But they might like a bit of punk, | :28:57. | :28:58. | |
they might like a bit of Oasis. # People might call me | :28:59. | :29:02. | |
a back-up dancer... # We're definitely in | :29:03. | :29:04. | |
a much better place commercially. What Stormzy has achieved is | :29:05. | :29:06. | |
incredible, the weekend it came out, | :29:07. | :29:07. | |
it sat above One Direction I think it's reflective of the | :29:08. | :29:15. | |
audience and the power of social Groups like The Square | :29:16. | :29:30. | |
are bringing the notion You Tube, WhatsApp | :29:31. | :29:32. | |
and Snapchat have replaced pirate We were on the road and going | :29:33. | :29:35. | |
into the studio. And outside McDonald's, | :29:36. | :29:40. | |
like, spitting outside there. To an audience whose parents have | :29:41. | :29:42. | |
Rebel Sounds - including rock, punk, indie, | :29:43. | :29:47. | |
reggae, new wave and acid house - UK Grime is on the cusp of being | :29:48. | :29:50. | |
as internationally influential as Mistajam the DJ there, | :29:51. | :29:53. | |
on the resurgance of Grime music. The Daily male is leading on an | :29:54. | :30:13. | |
apparent rocket attack on a British plane flying into Sharm el-Sheikh | :30:14. | :30:20. | |
which came within 1,000 feet of a rocket, how come we did not hear | :30:21. | :30:22. | |
about that at the time? Artistic Director of the | :30:23. | :30:26. | |
Donmar Warehouse, Josie Rourke, explores how the role of the 'hero' | :30:27. | :30:28. | |
is evolving on stage and screen. It's a star-packed episode with | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
contributions from Aaron Sorkin, Tom Hiddleston, | :30:33. | :30:34. | |
Phyllida Lloyd and Harriet Walter. | :30:35. | :30:36. |