08/12/2015 Newsnight


Evan Davis presents in-depth investigation and analysis of the day's headlines, including the Tory bullying scandal and floods. And has Donald Trump gone too far?

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Bullying among young Conservative campaigners. Another day, another


damning dossier - with questions for the party chairman Lord Feldman.


So complaints ant mark Clarke would be something that Conservative


Central Office have known about for a very long time.


Also tonight. Donald Trump is calling for a total and complete


shut down of Muslims entering the United States.


We'll examine what it is that people like about him, and what those that


And this. You can watch my full interview with this man, with this


amazing suit, really fancy, tonight on... BBC Newsnight. I think it is


the moment of fashion. Lord Feldman - Andrew Feldman -


is chairman of the Conservative Party. He's a close


confidante of the Prime Minister, and a man substantially responsible


for upholding decent standards And he finds himself now


in the midst of a crisis over the behaviour of


one senior campaigner, Mark Clarke. The crisis arose,


when a young activist killed himself earlier this year, citing


as a cause bullying by Mr Clarke. Questions were raised,


not least by this programme. Had Former party chairman Grant Shapps


accepted blame, But Lord Feldman has defended


his own role, by saying he knew nothing of


the problem until summer this year. The Prime Minister's inner circle


has been described as a shamocracy - David Cameron's propensity to


surround himself with But of all his relationships,


it is his friendship with this man Lord Feldman is not only


the Conservative Party chairman, but he is also David Cameron's


former university tennis partner. It perhaps explains why the party


was comfortable to see Grant Shapps resign over the affair, but


determined to protect Lord Feldman. We will dive into the market and


meet some market traders. But Feldman's career hangs


on how much he knew about disgraced activist Mark Clarke's alleged


bullying, and whether he acted with enough alacrity


when complaints were first made. Mark Clarke denies the allegation.


The student vote is really important. We


Since the death of the young activist Elliott


Johnson in September, there has been a stream of revelations about


Last week, the party effectively acknowledged


its internal investigation had been inadequate when it handed its


But the biggest threat to Lord Feldman's career may come


from a statement his own party made three weeks' ago.


Tonight, a former Conservative activist tells


Newsnight Lord Feldman was made aware of bullying long before 2015.


Patrick Sullivan has known Clark since 2006.


He says he has attempted to stop bullying in the youth wing


of the Conservative Party called Conservative Future.


He claims that he, along with Conservative MP Ben


Howlett, compiled a dossier of complaints about bullying,


which was handed into Feldman five years ago, in 2010.


I have known Ben how let for annum of years he won an election for


Conservative Future chairman, he was subject to bullying during that


campaign and during hiss chair map ship. He has a strong anti-bullying


stance in his campaign, because there had been a culture of bully,


as soon as he is elected, myself, Ben, helped to compile a dossier,


that dossier was given by Ben to Lord Feldman, and another. There


were complaints about Mark Clarke given to Roger Pratt in 2008. So


complaints about Mark Clarke have been something that Conservative


Central Office have known about for a very long time.


It is believed the dossier contained the complaints of a number of young


activists and would have ended up in the building behind me. We have


spoken to a couple of peek who have helped compile the dossier, and they


say that Mark Clarke's name was in it. Patrick Sullivan says that the


response to the dossier was initially very positive. Said Warsi


was very vigilant in regards to bullying and ensured that anybody


with a reputation of bullying was not involved in Conservative future


or given access to young people. That somehow changed later on? That


somehow changed later on, after she left. Sullivan's testimony appears


to support what Ben Howlett told Newsnight three weeks' ago. Lord


Feldman has been well aware of all of this, for a very long period of


time. Howlett has refused to discuss the contents of the dossier with


Newsnight. He says he will pass his information to the inquiry. This is


the latest in a series of revelations that raises questions


about whether the party dealt appropriately, with warnings of


bullying, and Clark. Last week Newsnight reported that a memo had


been handed into CC HQ by a party worker in August. The memo said


Clark wases so thick and dangerous. And warned that if he was not kept


grey the party's youth wing the result could be devastating.


Lord Feldman orders an internal investigation after seeing that


memo, however, Clark wasn't suspended by the party, until after


Elliott Johnson's death a month later. I think it was quite shocking


that Mark Clarke was able to continue with his road trip 2020


while this investigation was in process.


Elliott Johnson's father Ray believes there need to be more


accountability at the top of the Conservative Party. I have no


personal answer against Lord Feldman but I believe any head of an


organisation should take responsibility for what happens in


an organisation, if he has been made wear some years ago he should take


responsibility and go. Lord Feldman continues to stress


that he simply did not know about bullying, or about Mark Clarke.


Tonight we have a statement from Lord Feldman himself saying:


Such behaviour is abhorrent to me, had this been brought to my


attention I would have taken immediate action to investigate as I


have done since I received the complaint in August 2015.


Donald Trump has made a habit of lighting the blue touch paper


He did it again yesterday, and the fireworks duly ignited.


Everybody in the Republican and Democrat political establishment


in America has condemned his newly proclaimed policy of barring


Actually, politicians here too condemned it,


from David Cameron, to Nigel Farage, who called it a step too far.


But if Mr Trump's appeal is based on anti-establishment credentials, it's


not clear whether his supporters will care about the criticism.


But there's no doubt, Trump has been the talk of America today.


The White House has denounced the Trump plan.


It shows the new furore over Donald Trump, showing you raising your hand


We have from Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on


American Islamic Relations saying, "Are we talking internment camps,


are we talking the final solution to the Muslim question?


You're increasingly being compared to Hitler, does that


No, because what I'm doing is no different to what FDR -


FDR's solution for Germans, Italians, Japanese, you know,


We have places in London that are so radicalised, that the police are


Rather than debate the specific merits of the policies


he's proposing, we thought we might look at what people like about him.


I'm joined by the Iraq war veteran Joel Arends from South Dakota,


chairman of Veterans for a Stronger America, which endorsed


And from Washington we're joined by the journalist


Good evening, after noon to your both. Joel, let me start with you,


there has been lots of criticism about what Donald Trump said. Now


has that made any difference to you in your view of what he announced


his policy was on foreign Muslims entering the US? Well, there is


always going to be strong criticism of the kind of policy he has


suggested. Look, it is a workable policy if we are able to restrict


immigration from certain countries of origin. What you are seeing in


America right now is there is an intense determination among many in


the electorate to want to stop radical Islamic terrorism, and in


order to stop that, we are looking at new ideas and so I think what


Donald Trump is doing is voicing a lot of the frustration, but also a


lot of the resolve and determination that Americans have, to want to stop


the terrorism from coming to our shore, we saw it in San Bernadino,


Americans are on edge, Donald Trump is giving voice to those people and


their concern, so when he announces a major policy shift like that, you


will see the kind of criticism, he is not one to shy away from


criticism. That is certainly another... Dick Cheney, he is hardly


Mr Liberal, and everybody in the establishment has criticised him.


Does that in way strengthen your support for Trump or make you


question? Well, I don't think it makes his question his suppose as to


what it says to us as have the current and existing policies been


work something no, they haven't. They haven't stopped terrorism


coming to our shore, what do we do next? We need to look at restricting


or putting a temporary pause on immigration, Rupert Murdoch came out


today and said a temporary pause is a great idea as well. Until question


get a handle on how to best defend the home land, maybe we should make


a temporary pause a part of the dialogue, Donald Trump has certainly


done that, I think there is constitutional issue there's that


will have to be worked through. It is constitution Ali permissible in


America, to stop immigrants from coming from certain countries of


origin, whether or not the religious test would survive a constitutional


challenge is a little uncertain but that is part of his Donald Trump


appeal, he is plain spoken and he is talking to people's concerns. Plain


spoken and constitutional issues deal with them later. Before I move


on, let us talk about this, today Donald Trump said parts of London


are so radicalised the police are afraid for their own lives. I live


in London, for a few year, I can tell you I think that is not true.


Now, does that matter to you, that I, who live in London tell you that


Donald Trump has just made up something, that is, you know,


basically balderdash, nonsense and spouted it as a fact. Does it matter


to you that he does that or not? I think what he is giving rise to, he


is certainly giving a reference to some of the no-go zones that, that


appear throughout Europe. I think, you know, we have seen that in


France, there are certain places, we even see it in America today, where


there are certain towns in America where you have seen... I don't want


to argue about it with you, because we don't have it in London. He said


we have it in London. What I want to know whether it matters to you


whether the truth value of what he says is a of any significance or


whether he is giving voice to the concerns that is the appeal? He is a


bombastic figures she going to say exaggerated things from time to


time, in order to make his point. It is how he is cutting through like a


knife to the rest of the American public, because they understand what


he is say, they understand what he is trying to get through with these


30 second sound bites that most of America can't get past. He is


getting through, he is getting past, they understand it, they understand


that there is no-go zones round Europe, whether or not they are in


London or not is irrelevant to the major policy issue of is it happen


something Thank you. Stay there. I am going to put some of that to my


other guest. What is your theory as to why Donald Trump has been so


unbeatable in this Republican contest this year? I think we are


witnessing the death rattle of white supremacy in America. It is an


ideology of exclusion, there are people who want to conTrickett


America and others who want to stretch America to accommodate


minorities and freedoms. All the studies show that Trump is appealing


to the disaffected white voter. So the surveys show the white voter is


saying this America no longer belongs to me, I can no longer


become a protagonist. America has become a minority country. He has


support. It is not negligible support. This


race plays interfere. What Donald Trump does cynically, he marries


anger with hate, with ignorance and creates a lot of cocktail and


projects strength by lobbying it against a perceived enemy, the


other. In this case banalities, Muslims, women, black men, Mexican


immigrants. He says I will protect you against them. Disagree, this is


the irony, he has given Islamic State a premature early Christmas


gift. Basically they're number recruitment tool is the West is at


war with Islam. President Obama said to not divide along religious or


ethnic lines, because that helps Islamic State. And Dawn Trump says


I'm going to ban Muslims. He gave a nice gift to Isis and I'm sure they


e-mailed him and said thank you for doing our job. There is plain


speaking, this was a phrase used and you have to admit that it is more


interesting to listen to the guy speak than a lot of other guys


speaking. That is part of his appeal. He positioned himself as


saying I'm not these old-timers, not part of the establishment, I am


self-made, I have my own money, I will tell it like it is. I do not


bow down to political correctness and I will rationalise your hate, be


a spokesman for your frustration and say what I have got to say. I do not


care about moderation. Of course that is attractive to a base


according to all the studies that those fields disaffected and sees


the country slipping away. There is anger and frustration but it is


channelled in the most poisonous way which divides Americans along


religious and ethnic lines. That helps our enemies. Joel, that film.


Network, the catchphrase is I am mad as hell and I will not take this any


more. That is what Donald Trump is appealing to. Do you recognise that


in yourself for example, angry white man? Absolutely not, I reject any


such notion. What Donald Trump is speaking to is the hopes and dreams


of Americans in general. Looking at is minority support, he has


phenomenal support with the African American community and Hispanic


community relatively speaking. In the African-American community in


fact he has increased levels of support because they understand that


cheap labour flowing across the borders in the form of illegal


immigration is running African-American communities. We are


going to lose the line. Let me go back to Wajahat Ali. What is


interesting is how hard it has been for opponents to lay a glove on


Donald Trump. What would be your advice because if you argue with


him, if you taken seriously and argue with him you give him


credibility. If you ignore him you're just undignified and the guy


is the centre of the show. When Dick Cheney, the most Muslims consider


the manifestation of the Sith Lord himself, basically says Trump is too


extreme, that is telling. What a lot of the Republicans and many


Americans have to say is OK, this guy is a bustling, a character, then


spoken and fun to watch but he is dividing us and making us less safe.


That is what you say because his rhetoric is poisonous and assist our


enemies both abroad and at home. What type of future do we have for


the rest of America, all Americans regardless of religion, ethnicity


and gender, if I might Donald becomes president and enacted


policies. It would be World War II. Maybe he wants those internment


centres. Hopefully that will not happen. We are living in an era


where these events do seem to happen, what would be the chance


that he gets the Republican nomination and goes on to beat


Hillary Clinton? It is a scary time because he is double down on his


anti-Muslim rhetoric, he sees it working with his base and now he's


the leading candidate for the Republicans. He might be the leading


candidate and I see this as the death rattle of a certain white


supremacy in America. I do not think he will win because we have seen


solidarity even with Republicans and the Conservatives and all along


religious and ethnic lines saying that this is enough, this is toxic


and we reject it. So I remain hopeful and please remain hopeful in


the future of America. When I looked a little earlier this


evening, the weather forecast was for further rainfall across much of


Scotland and northern England during John Sweeney is in Kendal today


in the heart of the Lake District. The town didn't get


a flood protection scheme that was planned, and now


much of it has been flooded. John spent the day with families who


had been washed out of As the floodwaters recede,


what is striking is the grace and courage of the ordinary people


of Cumbria whose living rooms Kendal sits in a bowl of hills


and on Saturday night and Sunday morning it was swamped


by a month's worth of rain. There is a culvert,


an underground river beneath us, that overfilled and then a wall of


water like a mini tsunami battered And the poor people living here had


no idea what was going to hit them. At finishing time I collected


my wife from work We struggled to get home in the car


because they had closed bridges. So we had to go all the way


round the town to get back here. And in the meanwhile I phoned


my son who was at home doing some artwork, totally


oblivious of what was going on. So I rang up and said,


will we get somewhere A foot and a half


of water was flowing down the road. Jude Harrison,


shopkeeper and grandmother. And the thing that upset her


the most? I had kept the letter that my son


had written me, for 16 years. And I have just found it,


it is ruined. Ashley Harrison,


son and tattoo artist. I think after the water had actually


come up through there was kind of a And just that moment of well,


we can't do anything. So we sat down and had a glass


of wine and just had a bit Wendy and Russell Dawson,


they live for their dogs. So unfortunately Newsnight


doesn't have smell-ovision. I cannot tell


the viewer what it smells like. But you live here,


this is your home. As the waters rose outside, what


to do about their trail hounds? All


of a sudden it came through the back It just rose and it was just grab


the dogs and straight upstairs. Seven dogs, me and my wife


and my son in the bedroom. And these are working


dogs that live outside! Andrew Henshaw


and Danny Hawes were told by an elderly neighbour when they


moved in, Sandylands never floods. and I turned round and it was just


coming through the floor. Within about 30 seconds we were


in two inches of water. So we turned the power of


at the fuse box because we don't We went upstairs and we thought,


we can cope with soggy carpet You came down


about 20 minutes later and it was up And then at half past eight we knew


it was too late We just decided to leave because


we didn't know what else to do. These houses were built in 1923


and people said they had never People in the town talked about


global warming, bare hills causing This is where the Lake District


meets The Italian Job. The mini's owners are


in sunny Spain. I have been told there is


a covert which runs across the estate and of course the water could


not get into the River Kent because It's backed up and all


of a sudden it would come over I think that is exactly


what has happened. Cleaning up this stinking mess


would spoil anyone's Christmas. But there is something about


the quiet stoicism of the people of We don't meet enough glamorous


fashionistas on this programme so it's nice to bring you a rising


star of the scene, with even more glittering friends and social media


followers than we have. Frenchman Olivier Rousteing is


creative director of the house of Balmain, now linking up with


a name familiar in the UK, H He's adopted, and has scaled the


commanding heights of French couture despite lacking the traditional


advantages of being white and old - In an exclusive interview, he's


been speaking to Stephen Smith. Olivier Rousteing is young enough


and pretty enough to be a model. In fact, he is creative designer for


one of fashion's leading brands. Now collaborating with


high street chain H It is a big challenge, but it's


an amazing challenge for a designer Because usually you speak to


a niche, to a really small crowd. Because not everyone can afford


the Balmain clothes. So I have to say that it's really


exciting for me to work Because you talk to a really big


crowd, like more global, and all my fans that maybe love the


brand and love the Balmain work but cannot afford the clothes, actually


now can afford the clothes. Rousteing has nearly two million


followers on social media. He is so well-connected,


it's thought he may know who all My generation it is Facebook,


Twitter, Instagram, it is one click. So I have to say that also my way


of working is the same, If you don't like me,


you just un-follow me. So there's something really honest


that we don't have sometimes in fashion, because when you're part


of a magazine, maybe you can be a big advertiser, where on social


media I think it is something really How easy or difficult has it been


for somebody like you to make it I had been adopted


by my white parents. I don't know where I come from,


because I was born in the late '80s, when the mum was giving up


the baby, she could leave without So I think fashion always helped me


to actually define who I am Because not knowing where you come


from, not knowing your parents, Because I think we can't forget that


sometimes fashion is defined So I think I have been lucky, but


at the same time I work so hard. And I almost thank my past because I


think it is my past that makes me There is great debate


about the size, shape, of catwalk models, people say they


are too skinny, they're not real. So I think we're going back to real


bodies, to embrace real femininity And all my catwalk,


all my girls are naturally like They can be mums, they can be young,


it is just depending. But I love just showing reality


on my catwalk. And I think we are


going back to that. You have got


into trouble with a belfie or two. It is when you take photos


of your backside, your ass. Your bosses weren't too keen,


is that right? I think they were not


like the happiest person But when they see my ass,


they were OK! Like, I took a selfie


a long time ago of my body, and actually after I had it changed


to do a cover naked for a magazine. I just want to show myself,


how I am, without a double-breasted jacket and in French we say


"mise a nu", literally being naked. The Paris attacks happened in


your neighbourhood where you live. I was with my assistant and we were


speaking about the next collection. And she asked me,


is it going to take long, the So she texted her boyfriend


and said we are not going to go to the restaurant,


because she should have had dinner, and this dinner was exactly


at the place where they shot. So she felt really lucky, obviously,


because she was with me in the office when we heard


the news on our phone. We locked the office


and we just didn't want to go out. The past few days have seen


considerable success for I don't think we need to respond


by extremist ideas. I think Front National is


like a really bad thing for France. I think people should vote and I


think people should actually not go We can't answer an extreme story


with extreme political ideas. I'm really wondering


about my country because I'm really worried, I think we can't forget


that what is amazing about France is I don't think there's any freedom


in Front National. With all that's happened with Paris,


I want to make sure my next collection is


a reflection of the beautiful So it is going to be a lot


of diversity, it is going to be a beautiful Paris and it is going


to be a homage to my country. And showing that Paris is amazing


and we have to keep it strong and not forget that Paris is


the city of light. It's been a difficult week


for the Stop the War coalition. It failed to Stop the War in that


Commons vote last Wednesday. And today,


the Green Party MP Caroline Lucas stepped down as a patron, troubled


by some statements of the campaign. It's Jeremy Corbyn's connection to


Stop the War that is keeping it Lfie. In belfie. What happened


today? So, Stop the War organisation that has been round since early


2000, to oppose military intervention in places like


Afghanistan and irrang, Caroline Lucas and Jeremy Corbyn being


lifelong supporters of it. Caroline Lucas pulls out. She says that


reports end didn't let Syrians speak at a meeting in November. Stop the


War deny that. That is one of the reasons she is citing and the other


is she is unhappy about comments they made in the aftermath of par


Ritz. One supporter was supposed to have said... She accepts the


comments are been taken down but she says it was the Vice-President. She


didn't feel she could take, keep an eye on what they were up to so she


pulled out. This puts pressure on Jeremy Corbyn, at the weekend on


Friday, he is due to be speaking at one of their big dinner, ?50 a head.


Three course, Turkish meal? A glass of wine and the night will feature


music, comedy and speeches, including one from Jeremy Corbyn. It


is his position, they have reiterated it to me, Stop the War is


a vital democratic campaign, organised the biggest demonstration


in British political history and this quote, called it right, Jeremy


Corbyn is not pulling out, but, I think that Caroline Lucas pulling


out might change it, because she is a fellow traveller of his. It is not


like Tristram Hunt, he is on a different wing of the party, who at


the weekend he said Stop the War was deplorable. This is coming from a


different quarter. Thank you very much.


A lot of race being discussed in the programme today.


I'd like to say it was thematic planning, but it wasn't.


However it was exactly 50 years ago today that the Race Relations Act


The law prohibited discrimination on "grounds of colour, race,


or ethnic or national origins " in public places.


It didn't cover housing, it didn't cover employment.


But it did mark a pretty big legal change.


It was back in days when the phrase "colour bar" didn't


We asked writer Benjamin Zephaniah, who's a little older than the Act,


to look back, and at how far we've come.


There is some bad language in his piece.


And Britain was a very different place.


There were colour bars - landlords would refuse to rent to


Most people are suspicious when they first meet something different.


Immigrants are different. There were pubs with signs,


"no blacks, no Irish, no dogs". Want to keep Britain. Keep it white,


as it should be. The Race Relations Act


of 1965 changed things. It was now illegal to discriminate


in public on the grounds of colour, It was a civil and not


a criminal offence, and it didn't Three years later,


the law was toughened up following Enoch Powell's infamous


rivers of blood speech. In this country, in 15 or 20 years'


time, the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.


Notting Hill is famous for its carnival. Not the notorious race


riots of 1958. This used to be the front line. A danger no go area for


some. But now, it is one of the trendiest most multicultural parts


of London. Time has moved on, and racism has evolved. We don't really


see gangs of racist thugs roaming the streets like they did back in


the day. They now wear suits and ties. Some form political party,


some build websites and some of them are academics. The whites have


become black. A particular sort of violent, distrucktive nihilistic


gangster culture has become the fashion.


Racists have become more sophisticated.


He picked on me, sat next to me on packed train on the way to


Liverpool. He like, he called me all of the names you can think of and


more and started doing monkey sounds and you know, jungle sounds and told


me to get out of his country, his grandfather fought in the war so


dirty Africans like me could get out. Nobody jumped to my rescue. I


said I was on there, on my own for 45 minute, it was only when I I was


was physically assaulted one person, one man finally came to my defence.


It isn't enough for me to make more or less Indian work or work that


refers if you like to my past, what I am interested in, is how it is


that one can be you know, one can rid one's self of that colonial


yolk. Something to do with this both, the expectations of one's self


and the expectation given by a political socio-political context


that says in order to be the cutting-edge on the cutting-edge,


you have to deal with this question of your blackness. Well, actually do


you? In my generation we are using to it. Definitely used to getting


not getting a job because your name is a certain name or having people


harass you because your hair is difference, that is insidious


racism. What happened to me is kind of what we think happens in America,


what we think happened to our parents and our grandparents. I no


longer have to run away from skin head thugs but I still get stopped


by the police. On the whole society is more accepting but we Silva


institutional racism. Company boardrooms are very white, and


ethnic minority communities are still very suspicious of the police.


After the death of Steven Lawrence the report said the Met was


institutionally racist, and that hasn't gone away. Black people are


still disproportionately stopped and searched, and the amount of black


people, like my cousin Mikey Powell that die in custody is very


worrying. It seems to me we live in a society


where we are always being told to fear someone. The other. Those who


are not like us, and the newest targets are migrants, those who


David Cameron refers to as the swarm. We also live in a time of a


new kind of does one call it racism? One does, Islamophobia, you know, it


is as if it has given full measure, you are allowed to you know, look at


those people who wear a hijab or whatever else it is, and say are you


going to bomb me now? You know, how many incidents have there be


recently, and how watchful do we have to be? Very, I say.


This is just one of the many racist rants on public transport that have


recently gone viral. Bitches -- bitches. Isis bitches.


Laws can control people's actions but they can't control people's


thoughts. As racism becoming more subtle we need to keep pressuring


our institutions to change. So yes, society is a lot more tolerant than


it was 50 years ago but there is still work to do.


The struggle continues. We need to stop blaming each other.


You see, I am not the problem, but I bear the brunt of silly playground


taunts an racist stunts. I am not the problem. I am a born academic


but they have me on the run. Now I am branded athletic, I am not the


problem, if you give me a chance I will teach you of Tim buck too. I


can do more than dance, I am not the problem, I greet you with a smile,


you put me in a pigeon hole but I am versatile. Well, these conditions


may affect me, as I get older, and I am positively sure I have no chips


on my shoulders, black is not the problem, mother country, get it


right. And just for the record, some of my best friends are white!


That is just about it for this evening. Before we go I am not sure


whether it is austerity to me the fashion for flamboyant Christmas


light displays seem to have passed its peak. At least that is what I


thought, then this display in Texas came along courtesy of the Johnson


family in San Antonio.


Evan Davis looks at the Tory bullying scandal, floods and Olivier Rousteing. Stop the War come under fire, Benjamin Zephaniah speaks about race, and has Donald Trump gone too far?

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