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It's looking like Donald Trump will challenge for the White House. | :00:10. | :00:12. | |
But can the Republican party defy their grassroots to pull off | :00:13. | :00:14. | |
I am a unifier. Believe me I am a unifier. Once we get all of this | :00:15. | :00:24. | |
finished, I am going to go after one person, that is Hillary Clinton. | :00:25. | :00:27. | |
Governor Chris Christie may now be officially unified. | :00:28. | :00:29. | |
But will the other candidates come in line? | :00:30. | :00:33. | |
Many of us thought Super Tuesday would herred are a victor that would | :00:34. | :01:03. | |
take the race on the White House, but it hasn't. Hillary Clinton | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
performed well, but her rival Bernie Sanders is still in play. And on the | :01:08. | :01:13. | |
other side, Republican moderates are sensing there may be one last chance | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
to stop Donald Trump, but can they? And if so, how? We will ask guests | :01:18. | :01:22. | |
in a moment but first a look at the big picture of the night. | :01:23. | :01:25. | |
The night was Hillary Clinton's. The night was Donald Trump's. | :01:26. | :01:34. | |
But for anyone expecting the Coronation of either candidate, it | :01:35. | :01:39. | |
didn't come. Not quite. The picture has become more confusing, and for | :01:40. | :01:46. | |
political wons more interesting. Bernie Sanders outperformed his poll | :01:47. | :01:53. | |
predictions. Hilary got the other seven. | :01:54. | :01:59. | |
And on the Republican side, although Trump won in seven states, Ted Cruz | :02:00. | :02:04. | |
made significant inroads into his domination winning Oklahoma, Alaska | :02:05. | :02:09. | |
and his home state of Texas. Even Rubio who had failed to take any | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
state before last night got his first win in Minnesota. So the | :02:15. | :02:20. | |
question now for Republicans is what happens next. Mr Donald Trump. One | :02:21. | :02:26. | |
of the things commentators here ask is whether Donald Trump has a | :02:27. | :02:30. | |
mandate to lead the Republican party. It may seem a strange thing | :02:31. | :02:36. | |
to ask at this point, after so much air but when it comes down to hard | :02:37. | :02:43. | |
facts he has only received 34% of the Republican primary vote. If Cruz | :02:44. | :02:49. | |
and Rubio were one person, let us call them Crubio they would have | :02:50. | :02:53. | |
beaten Trump in some places, where he won but he didn't as he might | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
say, win Bigley. The Republican party knows that that is the | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
problem, that Trump will only be stopped if one of the others will | :03:02. | :03:05. | |
drop out. The trouble is, they can't choose which one. | :03:06. | :03:11. | |
Last night, a consciously court US Ted Cruz called on all the | :03:12. | :03:15. | |
candidates who hadn't won to pull out. Candidates, who have not won a | :03:16. | :03:21. | |
state. Who have not racked up significant delegates. I ask you to | :03:22. | :03:27. | |
consider our coming together. You nighted. He didn't know at this | :03:28. | :03:34. | |
stage Rubio had taken Minnesota. There have been suggestions today, | :03:35. | :03:38. | |
that the party may coalesce round Cruz now but even that would be with | :03:39. | :03:43. | |
a heavy heart. One Senator Lyndsey Graham joked that if Cruz were | :03:44. | :03:47. | |
murdered on the Senate floor, no-one would be convicted. One thing you | :03:48. | :03:51. | |
hear that really isn't true, I mean they count everyone who doesn't, at | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
least in the Republican primary even who doesn't vote for Trump if that | :03:56. | :04:02. | |
is an anti-Trump vote. No, usually the supporters of other candidates | :04:03. | :04:05. | |
of the also ran, the guy they hate the most is the front runner, the | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
same all the colleges in the US hate Harvard the most. Once Trump is the | :04:12. | :04:17. | |
nominee there is no evidence that the Cruz voters v Rubio voters they | :04:18. | :04:22. | |
will go to one another. A lot of Jeb Bush's voters wented up going to | :04:23. | :04:29. | |
Trump. The irony is it is one of their own make, they created the | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
political phenomenon of Trump when Mitt Romney won the nomination four | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
years ago. They called on Trump not for his policy brilliance or ideas | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
on taxation, but for his ability to build a base that derequested the | :04:43. | :04:47. | |
legitimacy of Obama's American identity, the argument. Mitt Romney | :04:48. | :04:54. | |
marched to Vegas to receive Trump's benediction buzz in reality that was | :04:55. | :05:00. | |
the moment the GOP endorsed Trump. I think they are shocked, stunned and | :05:01. | :05:05. | |
mortified, not just embarrassed but a lot the traditional leadership is | :05:06. | :05:09. | |
mortified by the existence and the success of Donald Trump. What he has | :05:10. | :05:16. | |
done he has resonated with a small Swat of American voters, who are | :05:17. | :05:20. | |
very vocal and loyal to him, but the reality is there are many people who | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
now accept he might win the Republican nomination, I haven't met | :05:26. | :05:30. | |
a single person who believe that he has a chance of withining -- winning | :05:31. | :05:36. | |
the presidency. What of the slightly sorry slightly startled figure of | :05:37. | :05:40. | |
Chris Christie in this, ens doing Trump. He will no doubt be hoping | :05:41. | :05:44. | |
for a Vice-Presidential role if things go well. If they don't, the | :05:45. | :05:48. | |
mainstream Republican party may look on him, their own man, as the | :05:49. | :05:56. | |
ultimate Brutus the betrayer. What of Hillary Clinton. She is by | :05:57. | :06:01. | |
far the most qualified candidate for the job. Major executive positions, | :06:02. | :06:05. | |
intimate knowledge of the White House and how it works, yet not all | :06:06. | :06:09. | |
of this is working in her favour. She is viewed as the establishment, | :06:10. | :06:13. | |
and more Kerrouchely perhaps as the one with the most questions to | :06:14. | :06:17. | |
answer to the electorate. Mark Urban looks as the challenges facing the | :06:18. | :06:20. | |
democratic favourite. America it seems is going to get a | :06:21. | :06:35. | |
clear choice. Not between left and right or what passes for that in the | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
US, but between insider and outsider. | :06:40. | :06:45. | |
Trump the ultimate populist insurgent, versus Clinton, steeped | :06:46. | :06:49. | |
in the black arts of Washington, Sion of the belt way. It is | :06:50. | :06:53. | |
certainly in any other election it would be something that really | :06:54. | :06:57. | |
helped her. She has decades of experience in public service and in | :06:58. | :07:01. | |
politics, in this particular campaign, in which both parties are | :07:02. | :07:06. | |
looking for outsiders. It has become a liability to her, she has been a | :07:07. | :07:09. | |
leader in the party for years but it is true that she is sort of a | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
technocrat, she is a won, the things that make her a good civil servant | :07:16. | :07:19. | |
and make the people work for her and who have worked for her really like | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
her, are not things that necessarily lend themselves well to the | :07:24. | :07:27. | |
campaign, so that is an unfortunate thing she has to work with. Eight | :07:28. | :07:32. | |
years as first lady, a two term Senator and four years as America's | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
chief diplomat. Has a record of public service, it is enormously | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
impressive. At each stage though, access to | :07:41. | :07:44. | |
power has brought with its controversy. From whitewater to the | :07:45. | :07:51. | |
death of Americans in Benghazi to the question as whether of Secretary | :07:52. | :07:57. | |
of State she sent private e-mails full of classified information He, | :07:58. | :08:02. | |
the security clearance is unbelievably remain intact, at this | :08:03. | :08:05. | |
time even though they are under investigation by the FBI, says is a | :08:06. | :08:08. | |
lot about how power works in Washington, that a lot of Americans | :08:09. | :08:12. | |
are not going to like. On a purely political front there is nothing | :08:13. | :08:15. | |
stopping Hillary Clinton from being democratic nominee at this point. | :08:16. | :08:20. | |
She did well on Super Tuesday. Bernie Sanders is a protest | :08:21. | :08:25. | |
candidate, nothing more, she will be the democratic nominee unless she is | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
arrested. We won with poorly educated. I love them. If you want | :08:30. | :08:35. | |
to see how anger business takes its form you need look no further than | :08:36. | :08:39. | |
the Trump campaign, and whereas somehow this contender can use | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
highly provocative language. For the democratic front runner stirring | :08:46. | :08:48. | |
support through competence rather this than charisma isn't always | :08:49. | :08:52. | |
easy. You don't want the conversation to be about change. He | :08:53. | :08:58. | |
or she, who dictates the debate in politics is the one who will win the | :08:59. | :09:06. | |
debate. If the campaign unfolding is primarily a conversation about | :09:07. | :09:08. | |
change, I think it benefitted Donald Trump. If the campaign moving | :09:09. | :09:13. | |
forward is more about bringing our country together, finding common | :09:14. | :09:19. | |
solutions to our problem, knowing, knowing policy, and knowing how to | :09:20. | :09:23. | |
get things done for middle class American, I think Hillary Clinton | :09:24. | :09:26. | |
will do very well, and that will be the job of her campaign, to dictate | :09:27. | :09:30. | |
what the debate unfolding in the fall is going to be about. | :09:31. | :09:34. | |
Last night she tried to relaunch herself, as national heal eraer this | :09:35. | :09:41. | |
than won. I believe what we need in America today is more love and | :09:42. | :09:46. | |
kindness. Instead of building walls we are | :09:47. | :09:57. | |
going to bring down barriers and build... Build ladders of | :09:58. | :10:01. | |
opportunity and empowerment. The rejection of conhaven't shulal | :10:02. | :10:05. | |
politics has gone so broad in America it has produced a political | :10:06. | :10:09. | |
insurgency on the left in the shape of Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton | :10:10. | :10:12. | |
might have been hoping to see him off in short order, but in truth it | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
is the very depth of her experience, which has become as much of a | :10:19. | :10:25. | |
liability as an asset. For all too many, Washington's | :10:26. | :10:29. | |
compromises reek of betrayals and knowledge of its ways suggests an | :10:30. | :10:33. | |
acceptance of its faults. But of course it remains the shining prize | :10:34. | :10:37. | |
for whoever is best able to tap America's mood. | :10:38. | :10:48. | |
So where does the race go. Priscilla writes for the Atlantic and Scotty | :10:49. | :10:52. | |
is one of the finder of the Tea Party news network. | :10:53. | :11:00. | |
Did you think Trump Trump would be able to say I am the nominee? No, I | :11:01. | :11:06. | |
didn't. You look add Texas, that was a key state, 155 delegate votes and | :11:07. | :11:13. | |
that was where Ted Cruz put his emphasis in. You look at Oklahoma | :11:14. | :11:19. | |
and Arkansas where you don't have cross over voters, he was going to | :11:20. | :11:23. | |
look good in those. There is a lot of passion in the top three | :11:24. | :11:27. | |
candidates and supporters, and they are not going to sit down today and | :11:28. | :11:31. | |
say I give up. I knew it would go until March 15th. The real question | :11:32. | :11:35. | |
is after then, are we going to be down to a two person race or could | :11:36. | :11:42. | |
it be an overwhelmingly one? As soon as you saw Marco Rubio win | :11:43. | :11:47. | |
Minnesota, Ted Cruz win Oklahoma as well as taxes a, you realise the | :11:48. | :11:50. | |
longer they are in play, the easier it is for Donald Trump, right? Yes | :11:51. | :11:57. | |
and no. We are seeing an interesting dynamic, to Marco Rubio, he lost | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
Virginia, and a lot of those votes are at least over 66,000 went to | :12:02. | :12:06. | |
John, they are looking for the establishment line to coalesce | :12:07. | :12:09. | |
behind one candidate. They are having a hard time doing that. | :12:10. | :12:14. | |
Donald Trump is sweeping the States and taking so many delegates, so | :12:15. | :12:19. | |
until we have that, the two lanes deso ciphered we are having a hard | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
time with the voters. When you look at the mainstream Republicans, if we | :12:25. | :12:27. | |
can call them that, did you understand where they are going, | :12:28. | :12:31. | |
what their game is? One minute they are saying we want it to be Rubio, | :12:32. | :12:36. | |
then Cruz looks like he is going to get the most delegates so they are | :12:37. | :12:41. | |
flip-flopping between who they are going to back. These are the people | :12:42. | :12:45. | |
who have been the last eight years of an election cycle have controlled | :12:46. | :12:49. | |
this party and give us more losers than we have had winners. Now they | :12:50. | :12:53. | |
are trying to figure out who to get behind. Ion if we will see them get | :12:54. | :12:59. | |
behind a Ted Cruz, won't get behind a Donald Trump as of now, but they | :13:00. | :13:04. | |
created this problem, they were the ones that front loaded this primary | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
season, thinking that I would have their candidate. It hasn't happened. | :13:08. | :13:11. | |
They are not happy about it. Is Donald Trump as a phenomenon bigger | :13:12. | :13:16. | |
than his numbers actually make him? When you look, the numbers who vote | :13:17. | :13:22. | |
in the primaries are tiny, and he is only getting 34.7% of the vote. Is | :13:23. | :13:26. | |
this whole thing overplayed when you put it to a much wider electorate? | :13:27. | :13:31. | |
It is interesting. The early voting states, where he became the three | :13:32. | :13:36. | |
time victor, he, those states are retail politics, they were on the | :13:37. | :13:41. | |
ground, campaigning, but Super Tuesday rewards the media exposure, | :13:42. | :13:45. | |
that is what we got here. From now on, forward his how much tum is | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
driven by what people saw on Super Tuesday. You don't really sigh the | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
attack ads They are certainly perhaps on the horizon, but that is | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
what Super Tuesday does. I gives them that media exposure. How do you | :13:59. | :14:04. | |
explain for example Donald Trump winning Hispanics in Nevada. That | :14:05. | :14:07. | |
seems to be contrary to everything he said, with the Mexicans, the wall | :14:08. | :14:13. | |
and yet he pulls in, I don't know how... When you think about it this | :14:14. | :14:17. | |
idea of building a wall with a big door to come in, those folks that | :14:18. | :14:21. | |
are already in the United States who have spent the tens of thousands of | :14:22. | :14:25. | |
dollars, went through the process of getting to be a citizen, they will | :14:26. | :14:29. | |
say why should they get it for free when I have had to put so much in | :14:30. | :14:35. | |
and risk so much? Those of us here as children or grandchildren of | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
immigrants that lost people on Ellis islands... Is that what Hispanics | :14:40. | :14:44. | |
are saying? The ones that are voting, that is why you have seeing | :14:45. | :14:48. | |
a huge crowd that like Donald Trump. Do you agree with that? It is | :14:49. | :14:54. | |
correct. Voters, 8% of Caucasus goers were Latino, it is true that | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
Donald Trump had a commanding lead. Now, our 8% of Caucasus goers are | :15:00. | :15:02. | |
they going to be representative of the country? That is what we will | :15:03. | :15:09. | |
find out. Texas is another big states for Hispanics, that is where | :15:10. | :15:15. | |
they came out for Ted Cruz. Those people were strong on immigration, | :15:16. | :15:19. | |
and so that is where you see that whole, it is an interesting dynamic. | :15:20. | :15:27. | |
Before we go to the Democratic race, is Hillary Clinton out of the push | :15:28. | :15:38. | |
or does Bernie Sanders have a chance? He is still in there but | :15:39. | :15:42. | |
whether that translates to moving forward, we will find out. Hillary | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
Clinton had a sweeping victory and we do not expect that to loosen up. | :15:46. | :15:50. | |
What we have been seeking, as marker and put in his piece, is the sense | :15:51. | :15:53. | |
that there are people on either side who do not like their own candidates | :15:54. | :15:56. | |
or the person they think their candidate will be. Is that going to | :15:57. | :16:00. | |
be a political cross-dressing? Are we going to seep Republicans for | :16:01. | :16:04. | |
Hillary and Democrats for Trump because neither like what their own | :16:05. | :16:08. | |
party has given up? You have mentioned the massive success of the | :16:09. | :16:12. | |
Secretary of State. We estimate that almost 20,000 Democrats have crossed | :16:13. | :16:16. | |
over, and with overwhelming numbers, we could see that justified. But the | :16:17. | :16:21. | |
question is, is there a crossover from a Republican standpoint? These | :16:22. | :16:30. | |
are the same blue dog Democrats that swapped over before? That Israeli | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
hardliner. You are prepared to lose voters. Regarding cross-dressing, we | :16:36. | :16:40. | |
will see that on immigration, perhaps, but I don't know. It is | :16:41. | :16:44. | |
hard to predict. It is a very unpredictable race and there is | :16:45. | :16:49. | |
anger. You see it in the polls, they are angry at the establishment. And | :16:50. | :16:54. | |
it is all about ego. It is all about ego on both sides of the aisle. The | :16:55. | :17:00. | |
reason that our guests have been talking about March the 15th is that | :17:01. | :17:03. | |
is the day that Florida comes into play. Florida is crucial, white, | :17:04. | :17:08. | |
because it is Marco Rubio's home state and that is the one where he | :17:09. | :17:14. | |
could win big. 99 delegates up for the count. The other reason, taking | :17:15. | :17:18. | |
your mind back to 2000, remember how tightly contested that was as a | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
state. Florida is a game changer and they are not going to lose a | :17:24. | :17:26. | |
candidate who could win Florida before they see how he does there. | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
The EU has announced it will disburse 700 million euros | :17:31. | :17:33. | |
in emergency aid to help member countries cope with the migrant | :17:34. | :17:35. | |
crisis, and to quell increasingly violent scenes - | :17:36. | :17:37. | |
particularly on Greece's northern border with Macedonia. | :17:38. | :17:43. | |
However the news has not brought early relief for the more than ten | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
thousand migrants there living in dreadful conditions. | :17:47. | :17:48. | |
Only a small number of Syrians and Iraqis were let | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
through the closed border - fewer than 300, when it was | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
Gabriel Gatehouse is in Thessaloniki tonight. | :17:55. | :18:06. | |
Kirsty, 700 million euros is the kind of money that Europe usually | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
reserves for tackling humanitarian emergencies in war zones, disaster | :18:13. | :18:17. | |
zones. They are making it clear that this money is not coming out of the | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
pot that it usually uses for relief outside of the EU, but the size of | :18:22. | :18:27. | |
this money does make it clear how seriously they are taking this | :18:28. | :18:29. | |
migration crisis and also it underlines the fact that they are | :18:30. | :18:33. | |
not expecting this migration crisis to let up any time soon. | :18:34. | :18:42. | |
But is there an EU wide strategy for dealing with the migration crisis? | :18:43. | :18:49. | |
Does this signify a new Europe? We are now way clearer to that. You can | :18:50. | :18:53. | |
throw as much money as this crisis as you like, as many tents and | :18:54. | :18:56. | |
shelters and meals for the hundreds of thousands coming here, but that | :18:57. | :19:00. | |
is not going to stop the people from wanting to come here. Some people | :19:01. | :19:05. | |
say that it might even encourage more people to want to come but what | :19:06. | :19:09. | |
we are not seeing is any kind of unified strategy from the EU to try | :19:10. | :19:13. | |
to tackle this problem at the root. On Monday, there will be a big | :19:14. | :19:17. | |
meeting between the EU and Turkey to try to persuade the Turks yet again | :19:18. | :19:23. | |
to limit the border crossings from Greece into Turkey, but more | :19:24. | :19:26. | |
importantly, perhaps, there is no strategy for what to do with the | :19:27. | :19:30. | |
migrants still coming, and who are there already. The Greeks and the | :19:31. | :19:34. | |
Germans want some kind of quota system, mandatory quarters that will | :19:35. | :19:38. | |
be taken by all the member states, with many member states including | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
Britain adamantly against this. Others are following suit, most | :19:43. | :19:45. | |
notably Austria, who have been limiting the numbers coming in. That | :19:46. | :19:49. | |
has had a trickle-down effect all the way here to the Greek and | :19:50. | :19:53. | |
Macedonian border, where we are seeing this big build-up of people | :19:54. | :19:57. | |
at the border, just about an hour north. | :19:58. | :20:02. | |
Not to this journey, nor to the constant stream of people | :20:03. | :20:08. | |
They are making their way towards a frontier that | :20:09. | :20:18. | |
Many have come from Syria, or from Iraq. | :20:19. | :20:27. | |
Somewhere at the end of this road they believe lies a promised land. | :20:28. | :20:39. | |
But Europe itself is in crisis, as it struggles to figure out | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
At the border, a tent city has sprung up, and it is growing fast. | :20:43. | :20:53. | |
Today's promise of EU money is perhaps a sticking plaster, | :20:54. | :20:56. | |
but with hundreds, maybe thousands arriving every day, | :20:57. | :20:58. | |
In two or three weeks we will have 100,000 people in Greece. | :20:59. | :21:07. | |
So it means that European countries will have to take a decision. | :21:08. | :21:10. | |
I know today there is a meeting in order to give some money | :21:11. | :21:13. | |
for Greece, but it is more than this, it is to find a common | :21:14. | :21:17. | |
solution among the different countries, in order | :21:18. | :21:18. | |
Greece wants EU member states to agree on a quota system | :21:19. | :21:25. | |
So does Germany, which took in more than one million people last year. | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
But the countries in between do not agree. | :21:31. | :21:35. | |
On the Macedonian side of the border today, | :21:36. | :21:37. | |
we saw police from Slovakia, the Czech Republic and Austria. | :21:38. | :21:44. | |
Their aim is to keep the migrants out. | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
"Save our children, open the borders", they chant. | :21:50. | :21:53. | |
Two days ago, they forced their way through this fence, only to be | :21:54. | :21:56. | |
pushed back by the Macedonian riot police, who fired tear gas | :21:57. | :21:59. | |
I am not from Daesh, I am not from al-Nusra, | :22:00. | :22:18. | |
I am just a man, I have children, want to live in peace. | :22:19. | :22:26. | |
After the incident on Monday, Macedonia closed the | :22:27. | :22:28. | |
As a crowd gathered at the crossing this morning, tempers began to fray. | :22:29. | :22:35. | |
It looks like they are preparing to let a small number through. | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
Only about 100 or so, the police say here. | :22:39. | :22:41. | |
Meanwhile, there are hundreds upon hundreds arriving all the time. | :22:42. | :22:49. | |
Of the handful we saw cross, most were immediately sent back, | :22:50. | :22:51. | |
either because they weren't from Iraq or Syria, | :22:52. | :22:53. | |
or because their papers weren't in order. | :22:54. | :22:57. | |
The Greek Prime Minister has warned his country is becoming | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
a warehouse of souls, trapped, half way along | :23:01. | :23:02. | |
As the numbers build up, so does the tension. | :23:03. | :23:15. | |
They are saying a woman just tried to set herself on fire just now. | :23:16. | :23:20. | |
They carry her off in search of a doctor. | :23:21. | :23:24. | |
Her children have already crossed the border, friends tell us. | :23:25. | :23:26. | |
For her, the waiting has become too much. | :23:27. | :23:33. | |
An estimated 40% of the people waiting to cross at the border | :23:34. | :23:36. | |
This couple spent thousands of euros to get this far from their home | :23:37. | :23:44. | |
All of this uncertainty is beginning to take its toll on them, | :23:45. | :23:50. | |
Because you left everything, your memories, your family, | :23:51. | :23:58. | |
because my mum is still there, my sister is still there, | :23:59. | :24:00. | |
When we decide to come, only for future of our kids. | :24:01. | :24:11. | |
Did you expect it to be like this? | :24:12. | :24:13. | |
Expected it would be better, because we hear that maybe we stay | :24:14. | :24:21. | |
here only three hours, or one day, and not too | :24:22. | :24:23. | |
We hope they can, the European Union, they can take | :24:24. | :24:29. | |
Because we are already crossing the border. | :24:30. | :24:34. | |
It is not just the migrants and the refugees who | :24:35. | :24:40. | |
It is being felt here in Greece, and beyond this border fence, | :24:41. | :24:45. | |
There must be something so tantalising about these tracks, | :24:46. | :24:53. | |
one single railway network connecting the whole of Europe. | :24:54. | :25:02. | |
But this is potentially the most serious crisis to face | :25:03. | :25:04. | |
At the moment, it's simply failing to provide an answer. | :25:05. | :25:10. | |
This country is in the grip of a crippling economic crisis. | :25:11. | :25:14. | |
It surely cannot cope with this influx on its own. | :25:15. | :25:24. | |
But the other nations of the EU, also weary of austerity, | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
are implacably divided over how much they can, | :25:28. | :25:29. | |
It's being heralded as a great scientific breakthrough - | :25:30. | :25:34. | |
It's called IRF4 and you can bet your bottom dollar women, | :25:35. | :25:44. | |
in particular, will soon be bombarded with drug products | :25:45. | :25:46. | |
But why is grey such a problem, equated with decrepitude rather | :25:47. | :26:02. | |
It's a subject close to the heart of Mary Beard, who I'll be | :26:03. | :26:06. | |
But first, when many young women are actively embracing grey, | :26:07. | :26:09. | |
why is it such a big no-no for many of the rest of us? | :26:10. | :26:13. | |
How would it feel if I was grey for a day? | :26:14. | :26:25. | |
Next, up to the Newsnight office. My goodness! Wasn't really that | :26:26. | :26:37. | |
shocking? So why is it that so many women just won't risk grave. The big | :26:38. | :26:41. | |
story is that grey does not suit them. They were born with a natural | :26:42. | :26:47. | |
colour and the grey starts to come through and it makes them feel like | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
they are getting older. The ones that youthful Shane back in their | :26:51. | :27:07. | |
hair. -- youthful Shane. Can Franklin, the fashion industry | :27:08. | :27:10. | |
specialist, has been great since her early 30s, so what she make of the | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
announcement that scientists have discovered a grey Jean? I have to | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
daughters and we know as of today that part of the reason is genetic. | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
If you were able to screen it out, to take a magical pill, what would | :27:26. | :27:32. | |
you have done? My oldest daughter is 23 and she says that she better get | :27:33. | :27:37. | |
a white streak or else. I hope I have got your package, ma'am, is | :27:38. | :27:41. | |
what she says. She has seen it and sees that it is distinctive but she | :27:42. | :27:46. | |
has also seen her friends in their early 20s say to me, I love your | :27:47. | :27:48. | |
hair. For one enterprising young woman, Gray was a | :27:49. | :28:05. | |
brilliant business idea. I built my business on grey. It was the first | :28:06. | :28:09. | |
hair colour we ever did and I did it as a teenager on people in my | :28:10. | :28:14. | |
bathroom at home. On other teenagers? Yes, people working in | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
the fashion industry. And it kind of kick-started the bleach empire. Do | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
you think there is a double standard between men and women going great? | :28:23. | :28:26. | |
Yes, there is a double standard with all ageing. Men become more | :28:27. | :28:29. | |
attractive and more intelligent as they get older, there is the Silver | :28:30. | :28:35. | |
fox but there is no silver vixen. Maybe we are following this trend | :28:36. | :28:42. | |
and we will start that. Time to find a silver fox. Where would he be but | :28:43. | :28:49. | |
in the make-up chair? A silver fox in his den. The Queen of Scotland | :28:50. | :28:53. | |
has arrived. Is this all your own colour? I have been a silver fox | :28:54. | :29:02. | |
since I was 35. Not so long ago. And you have never been under pressure? | :29:03. | :29:06. | |
Do you think the standards are different? What women in television | :29:07. | :29:10. | |
are great? You look good grey but what is wrong with that? It is very | :29:11. | :29:16. | |
itchy. Is it self-imposed pressure? I think some of my male colleagues | :29:17. | :29:19. | |
will dye their hair because they think they look better. Otherwise | :29:20. | :29:24. | |
why do it? Or is it a pressure thing to look younger? Name names. I can't | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
but some of them are no longer working in this country. The US | :29:30. | :29:36. | |
elections are very interesting, don't you think? I have been | :29:37. | :29:42. | |
exploring how different people have reacted to women with grey hair and | :29:43. | :29:45. | |
we have had some interesting social media reaction to my hair. This is | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
the female equivalent of a middle-aged man turning up to work | :29:50. | :29:56. | |
in a Harley-Davidson. Nice to see Andy water hole back on our screens. | :29:57. | :30:02. | |
That was what I thought! The female equivalent of Paxman's beard. | :30:03. | :30:05. | |
Subverting the male domination of the broadcasters, good going. All | :30:06. | :30:19. | |
good fun, but Mary Beard, this is not just a funny issue. Why is it | :30:20. | :30:22. | |
that women feel so compelled? We will talk about the scientific | :30:23. | :30:25. | |
evidence in a minute. Why is it? Were talking about this on the | :30:26. | :30:28. | |
programme I have been making, which goes out on Friday morning. That is | :30:29. | :30:32. | |
a consistent refrain, I don't want to look old, I want to look younger | :30:33. | :30:35. | |
and I thought that if I was grey, people would not notice me. I would | :30:36. | :30:43. | |
no longer be a human, noticeable person. What I think is really | :30:44. | :30:49. | |
interesting about that is partly what you are showing us, because I | :30:50. | :30:55. | |
think you look just the same age as when you have your other colour | :30:56. | :31:01. | |
here. And I don't think you look, in fact I think you look more | :31:02. | :31:05. | |
impressive and authoritative. You don't look like granny sitting by | :31:06. | :31:11. | |
the fire. I think first of all there is a kind of misunderstanding of | :31:12. | :31:15. | |
what going grey does to you. Illion people last year, the but the | :31:16. | :31:20. | |
countries in between do not agree. On the Macedonian side o It has been | :31:21. | :31:23. | |
going on for many year, there are Roman women 2,000 years ago who used | :31:24. | :31:27. | |
to do what we do, pull the first grey hairs out and think I am going | :31:28. | :31:34. | |
to go bald. If the 16th century, witches, long grey hair but you | :31:35. | :31:38. | |
know, otherness. But I think you have two things going on here. One | :31:39. | :31:45. | |
is a sense that grey signals old and I don't want to be old, but I think | :31:46. | :31:53. | |
that relates to, to a bigger issue about ageing, whether it is in | :31:54. | :31:57. | |
public or whether it is in the workplace, and, and in a sense, it | :31:58. | :32:03. | |
relates to a kind of problem about how old women in particular should | :32:04. | :32:08. | |
feel that they can be. Look I am 61, this is what a 61-year-old woman | :32:09. | :32:13. | |
looks like, I am fine with that. And if I were to colour my hair, what I | :32:14. | :32:17. | |
would be saying, is, I don't want to be what I am. And I am happy to be | :32:18. | :32:23. | |
what I am. It is interesting because you can count on two hands the men | :32:24. | :32:29. | |
in the BBC who have grey hair and Narey a woman among them. Is it self | :32:30. | :32:35. | |
imposed attitudes or is there an attitude to women who are grey and | :32:36. | :32:40. | |
the perception of them on the media? Think that it is classic gender | :32:41. | :32:47. | |
divide like we were hearing, like you get an old craggy silver fox, | :32:48. | :32:55. | |
sits on the television, reads the news, compares discussions, with | :32:56. | :32:59. | |
authority. And the fear is, I think I am really interesting in seeing | :33:00. | :33:04. | |
you like you are like tonight, it is undermining that fear, the fear is a | :33:05. | :33:09. | |
woman having grey share, she just looks, it works against her | :33:10. | :33:13. | |
authority. She looks like somebody we don't have to notice any more. | :33:14. | :33:17. | |
So, there is two things happening as well. The whole kind of air and make | :33:18. | :33:21. | |
up industry, feeds into this notion of do anything to get rid of the | :33:22. | :33:27. | |
grey, that then is compounded by the scientific research which says that | :33:28. | :33:31. | |
there will be very soon a therapy because it is genetic which will get | :33:32. | :33:36. | |
rid of the grey. Do you think there is setting up backwards? I think it | :33:37. | :33:40. | |
is keeping us at the same place. What do we do? We rinse or tint or | :33:41. | :33:46. | |
colour, to get rid of the grey, in ten, 20, 30 Greers time, if we are | :33:47. | :33:51. | |
rich, we will take some genetic treatment which will stop us going | :33:52. | :33:56. | |
grey. Actually I want to say come on, this is going grey, it is not | :33:57. | :34:01. | |
about your genes it is about getting mature. But, when you talk to the | :34:02. | :34:06. | |
hairdresser in the salon who said, the problem is that women, because | :34:07. | :34:10. | |
of how they are viewed, do not have any confidence they want, and they | :34:11. | :34:14. | |
feel, and also they feel invisible. That is true. That is about | :34:15. | :34:20. | |
education in schools about programme, the way they are treated | :34:21. | :34:24. | |
in the Health Service, how they get on in their daily lives. The trouble | :34:25. | :34:30. | |
is more prominent women decide to colour their hair because that is | :34:31. | :34:34. | |
the only way they can see they can make it in their careers, the more | :34:35. | :34:42. | |
the problem is compounded. You know, there are some good models. | :34:43. | :34:47. | |
Christine Lagarde and you can say, look, you can be, alxxxx actually | :34:48. | :34:53. | |
you can be grey, powerful, interesting, dynamic, but unless | :34:54. | :34:58. | |
more people do it, it, and let it go grey, then, we will all be stuck | :34:59. | :35:03. | |
saying my goodness me, should I just cs I am time expired. Do you feel | :35:04. | :35:08. | |
you are defined by your grey? Not you personally but people that don't | :35:09. | :35:15. | |
know you define you by your grey? I think grey is... You are about to do | :35:16. | :35:20. | |
a programme about civilisation? Grey is part of it. The interesting | :35:21. | :35:25. | |
thing, people have fixated on grey hair as the sign. You go into the | :35:26. | :35:29. | |
room, who, is grey, you know the grey vixens and foxes out there, | :35:30. | :35:34. | |
actually if you look at somebody, being old, isn't just about grey | :35:35. | :35:40. | |
hair, it is about a series of disadvantages, a series of changing | :35:41. | :35:45. | |
of the skin, the creaky knees, it is also, there is something liberating | :35:46. | :35:50. | |
about being old, you know, you are, you grow thicker Sven skin, you are | :35:51. | :35:54. | |
more confident, you know more. If that is not valued that is the | :35:55. | :35:58. | |
problem. But we are not going to make it valued if all the people who | :35:59. | :36:04. | |
are really powerful, older women, try to disguise the fact they are | :36:05. | :36:08. | |
older women, by colouring their hair. Interestingly speaking to Alex | :36:09. | :36:13. | |
who made her first business breakthrough by grey but grey for | :36:14. | :36:18. | |
teenagers, the reason they embraced it was because it was an home | :36:19. | :36:23. | |
imagine to older women. By the time she gets to 20 she is too old. She | :36:24. | :36:27. | |
has to go back. It's a youth thing and then a much older thing. One | :36:28. | :36:31. | |
thing you have to realise, is it isn't just women, I mean, there | :36:32. | :36:36. | |
is... Men don't want to talk about hair die do they? It is try, I think | :36:37. | :36:41. | |
-- Dai There is a gender difference, you can be the craggy older man with | :36:42. | :36:46. | |
the white hair. We know! It is difficult. No-one calls a woman | :36:47. | :36:54. | |
craggy. We are wrinkly. The thing that surprised me, was first finding | :36:55. | :37:02. | |
out the number of men who did colour their hair, and then the almost | :37:03. | :37:05. | |
minuscule, the minuscule number of any of them, as you say who were | :37:06. | :37:09. | |
prepared to talk about it. One thing I think that is good for women, and | :37:10. | :37:14. | |
it is an advantage is we can chat about it. You can put a wig on, we | :37:15. | :37:18. | |
can talk about whether we do, whether we don't, whether I would | :37:19. | :37:22. | |
like pink streaks, whatever, it is something which is out there, it is | :37:23. | :37:29. | |
discussible, we eventually, after trying, man after man after man, who | :37:30. | :37:35. | |
we knew dam well coloured their hair, I couldn't possibly come on | :37:36. | :37:39. | |
the radio, we eventually found one, one, to come out on the radio. I | :37:40. | :37:44. | |
thought, well actually poor dears, you know, we spend a lot of time | :37:45. | :37:48. | |
thinking that women, you know, you know, are the underclass in this | :37:49. | :37:53. | |
hair business and in some ways they are, but you know, the men can't | :37:54. | :37:58. | |
even talk about it. They talk about it on your programme One of them | :37:59. | :38:00. | |
does. Thank you very much indeed. And you can hear Mary's Beard's | :38:01. | :38:04. | |
programme, Glad to be Grey, on Radio Four on Friday | :38:05. | :38:07. | |
morning at 11am. Quick look at The Papers and of | :38:08. | :38:15. | |
course it is on Super Tuesday. ELLOW One of them does. Thank you very | :38:16. | :38:17. | |
much indeed. Quick look at The Papers and of course it is on Super | :38:18. | :38:20. | |
Tuesday. ELLOW One of them does. Thank you very much indeed. Quick | :38:21. | :38:23. | |
look at The Papers and of course it is on Super Tuesday. Donald the | :38:24. | :38:25. | |
"Hair" apparent. Trump takes aim at Republican establishment. The | :38:26. | :38:28. | |
Guardian Rolls-Royce warns its staff of Brexit risk. | :38:29. | :38:34. | |
And finally, on the Daily Telegraph sturgeon's council tax raid and a | :38:35. | :38:35. | |
picture of that footballer. We leave you with news that this | :38:36. | :38:40. | |
June, the Tate Modern is to mount a retrospective of the art | :38:41. | :38:43. | |
of Georgia O'Keeffe. It's hoped that the exhibition | :38:44. | :38:45. | |
will challenge the widely asserted belief, always dismissed | :38:46. | :38:47. | |
by the artist herself, that her famous flower paintings | :38:48. | :38:49. | |
were just thinly disguised Here's a few of them - | :38:50. | :38:51. | |
paintings, that is - Good afternoon. Wednesday was | :38:52. | :40:10. | |
certainly a cold day for many of us, we had a bit of everything from | :40:11. | :40:12. |