14/04/2016 Newsnight


Questions over the finances of Labour's trade union spokesman. The creator of the national curriculum on the government's academy plan. EU referendum latest. With Evan Davis.

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Another example of opaque financial affairs tonight.


Someone who's been handsomely renumerated.


No, tonight we have the story of Labour's spokesman


That will remain between myself and...


We're on the Referendum Road - hearing from the people


Spanish, French, seem to be able do what they want to with the fishing


and we're not allowed to, so it is just time we came out.


Sexism from MPs in the parliamentary lobby.


Or a deeper problem in an old boys' club?


The innovative film director Peter Greenaway, on his new film


For ten days, since the Panama Papers were leaked,


financial morality has been top of the news.


The tricks of the rich have been on parade, the word "dodgy"


At issue, whether people manage to usurp more than their share


Concerns undoubtedly accentuated by the news today,


that BP shareholders were voting on the chief executive's


As Jeremy Corbyn said on Monday, "There is now one rule


for the super rich, and another for everyone else."


So what does he, and others who have been pointing fingers,


make of the behaviour of Labour's spokesman on trade unions?


He used to be general secretary of the National Union


Most of the union's cash then came from donations from sick,


Eyebrows have already been raised at the remuneration Mr Lavery


received, but Newsnight has learned that he was also given a generous


mortgage by the union, well below the market rate.


Mr Lavery denies any irregularity, but the accounts are opaque.


John Sweeney has been poring over them.


Back in the day the coal miners dug deep to make Britain rich. But, at a


price. More than 4 billion has been paid in compensation, to men who


suffered from lung disease, and other illnesses.


The national union of mineworkers helped their members get the


compensation, and in return, miners could tick a box. Gifting a part of


their money to the union. This is a story about what happened


with some of that money in the NUM Northumberland area.


That was the Labour Party is best defending the trade union movement.


Before Ian Lavery became an MP in 2010 he had been the General


Secretary of the miner's union in Northumberland for 18 years.


I told the common,s, I said I'm the most experienced man here, with


regards to the trade union bill. I have been assaulted on picket lines


and I have been on strike more than anybody in the Commons. He is now


Jeremy Corbyn's front bench spokesman on trade unions.


So what happened on his watch as the NUM's Northumberland area boss is


instructive. The first line on the graph shows the amount of money


spent on members' benefits from 1992 on wards, the year Lavery became


General Secretary, the second line, Lavery's pay.


In 2010, Lavery quit the union and was elected MP for Wansbeck, one of


the safest Labour constituencies in the country. Mr Lavery got


redundancy money and that feels odd because it seems as though he


effectively resigned to go and work in that place behind me. The dosh we


think ?62,000. But on top of that there is a further 58,00 pounds,


paid out to past General Secretary redundancy costs. -- 85,000 and


there is a mystery about who that is.


Mr Lavery started at the union in 1992. He has told us that he did


receive a redundancy payment in 2013. When the ?85,000 pops up on


the union's accounts, so on the face of it, it looks like the mystery


beneficiary of the mystery ?85,000 is Ian Lavery.


These numbers are reasonable. The argument could be made if the


National Union of Mineworkers Northumberland area had thousands of


members, but the world has moved on. All the pits are closed, the


industry is dead. And the union moribund. How many members has it


got? Just six people. Mr Lavery has certainly benefitted from the union


in other ways. This is his house in Ashington,


bought in 1994 for ?75,000. Like most people, he got a mortgage.


Unlike most people, the lender was not a bank but the National Union of


Mineworkers Northumberland area's provident and benevolent fund.


Newsnight has obtained these documents that show that Ian Lavery


got a mortgage at an exceptionally generous rate. A typical mortgage in


1994 attracted an interest rate of round 8%. Lavery's loan from the


fund was at just 3%. There is another mystery in the accounts, a


fund loan worth ?109,000 written off in 2007. The year when Mr Lavery


says his mortgage arrangement ended. Newsnight has been doing some sums.


?109,000 is pretty much exactly what you would expect Mr Lavery to owe


had he made none or virtually no remaim on his mortgage. Was the


109,00 pounds written off by the union actually ?109,000 owed Mr


Lavery. Mr Lavery says all of this is a private matter.


He does say that regular mortgage payments were made, but not by whom.


Hello. Since news might began in investigation, we have repeatedly


asked Mr Lavery for an interview. We went to his constituency office in


Northumberland. To begin with, they wouldn't reply to our e-mails. They


wouldn't return our phone calls, they wouldn't even open the door.


Eventually, we got an e-mail from Ian Lavery but there are questions


unanswered. So, time to catch up with him. Near Westminster.


John Sweeney from news might. You got the mortgage from the union.


Yes. Did you pay it off? The union and myself came to a financial


agreement in 2007, in relation to mortgage which will remain private


between myself and the union. That was the agreement. OK. But you were


the General Secretary of the union. Yes. So you are agreeing with


yourself, it looks as though. It looks as though you raided the


onion's piggy banks That is unfairment We are here to ask you a


question. Did you pay off your mortgage? My mortgage was paid off


with the National Union of Mineworkers in a financial agreement


which was acceptable to both parties. You are talking with


yourself. I was never involved in any of the negotiations at the


beginning of the mortgage, I was never involved with any of the


negotiations at the conclusion. That is absurd. You might wish to say


that but it isn't. It is unfair to say that, because these... Why is


that unfair? You were the General Secretary of the union and the union


gave you a mortgage and you haven't answered the question. Did you pay


it off? For the sake of clarity, for the sake of clarity, any business


done with regard to the General Secretary, I wouldn't financially


business I wouldn't be involved in. What I will say once again, to you,


that the mortgage was settled in 2007, between the trustees... Did


you pay it off? In 2007, between myself and the union, and that was


done on a private basis. You paid off the mortgage? That will remain


between myself and the National Union of Mineworkers. Of which you


were the General Secretary at the relevant time. Yes. So it looks like


an inside deal? Disgraceful to suggest such a thing. I have get to


commons, I have a meeting. I hope I have answered your questions. You


haven't really I hope I have been polite enough to try. You haven't


answer the principle question. I have spent ten minute hearse


answering the questions and I have e-mailed you, so thank you very


much. Thank you. Rightfully or wrongly, the public


are demanding more and more transparency from the politicians,


as to where they get their money from. On the question of Mr Lavery's


mortgage, he has been as transparent as the river behind me.


John Sweeney there, who worked on that with producer Ed Brown.


As we went to air, Labour gave us this short statement:


Voluntary donations made by miners all went


into the general fund and none went into the benevolent fund.


You probably remember the reform of the English NHS back in 2012.


A reorganisation that got rather little scrutiny at first,


then there was disquiet, which then turned to large scale


discontent, and then some redrawing of the plans.


Well, are we heading down a similar path now, with the reform


The Government's plan is to take schools out of local


authority control, by turning them all into academies.


It's had some attention, but given the magnitude


Yesterday the Commons debated it, at Labour's instigation,


and there was clearly some disquiet among Tory backbenchers.


...an outstanding school in every sense of the word.


They said to me they would not want to become an academy.


And what I fundamentally struggled with is a very simple point,


that I should go to them and say, despite the fact that your school


is outstanding, that all of your staff are working


brilliantly and delivering fantastic education,


that we are now going to force you to become an academy.


...does not allow us to draw conclusions on whether


academies in themselves are a positive force for change.


If I were to sum up the concerns expressed to me by teachers locally


it would be confusion, I think, as to why something


that is so obviously not broken needs fixing.


Well, the man who set in train many many reforms


in the Education Reform Act 1988, was Kenneth Baker.


Now Lord Baker, he created GCSEs, the national curriculum,


City Technology Colleges, and earlier vintages of academies.


Good evening to you. Do you support make all school academies? I support


them because I started them with a city technology colleges in the '80s


but it had to start in a gentle way, hay to final teams of people to run


them. Head teachers who never had to employ people before, who never had


a capital budget, they became managers. There is a huge difference


between the things you started up which were carefully calculated


schools designed and organised and in ways of doing things and taking


every school and say you are an academy. Since I left, the history


was by 2009 when the coalition started they there were about 200


academy, there are 4700, a huge change, absolutely huge change,


which has happened naturally, quite naturally and I think that is the


best way to proceed frankly. Rather than forcing? Yes, if one wants to


get to the stage of having them all out coax them along the road. There


are authorities like Gloucester where all the schools are academies


and I think Southwark but let them do it at their pace rather than


anything else. So the Government are pushing it faster or too fast or too


hard for your liking. Yes, I think eyou can, with a well managed


academy you can get better results if it is really well managed, but


not even is well managed. The idea is to put them into groups?


Multi-Academy trusts? You've got that right, yes. These are ten or 15


age? Yes, that sort of size. Several existing the moment but if they're


going to do all the schools, they will need something like 2000


multi-Academy trusts and there are not anything like that number. You


are running some of these, UTCs, that is something like a trust?


University technical colleges, yes. They are successful. They take


youngsters from 14-18 and they have very practical courses. In the week


they are making things. How easy is it to build a chain like the one


you're running, a good chain, and can you do it in the course of safe


three-year is? One of the best is Phil Paris, he has got 30 schools,


and he started 30 years ago. It takes a long time. To have school


managers, ex-heads and people who understand the arcane world of


school finance. You introduced the national curriculum and academies


don't have to do it, so it is just unravelling the national curriculum?


If I were now dealing the cards, I would stop the national curriculum


at 14 and at 14 have a series of technical colleges. This is what


Austria does and it has the lowest level of youth unemployment. In a


way, the colleges I'm starting fit into that category. They are 14-18.


At 14, youngsters know where their interests lie will stop our


youngsters make things with their hands. What is so interesting, and


you have been banging on about this for decades, what is so interesting


is that the whole thrust is to get book learning back into classrooms,


isn't it? That's what conservative educators believe. I think that's a


huge mistake. You need a knowledge economy but in itself that is not


enough. You need practical application of knowledge. If there


is a youngster at one of our colleges making the chassis of a car


and rounded bonnets and so on, doing that he will understand the


importance of trigonometry. Not just in book learning. I believe in


learning as well as studying. You are an educational radical! You can


call me that, but I think our heads in each UTC has a target, when the


student is leaving at 16 or 18, no one should join the ranks of the


unemployed and we are meeting that. Our youngsters become apprentices,


they get jobs or they join universities. There are other things


you disagree with the government on in this programme. By taking out the


LEAs, which you're comfortable with, you don't have local accountability.


Have they cracked that now because you've removed it? Some of the


academies do have local accountability, they are very close


to their communities. Our youngsters are close to our communities. We


have one Coventry, they want another one in Solihull. This comes from the


requirements of the local communities. Those ones often have


parents as governors and they want to take that out. I'm fully in


favour of keeping parent governors. It sounds like you are completely at


odds with them on almost every aspect! No, the general thrust is


right, but parent governors are useful people and they can be a


contact for people in the school and we have parent governors at our


university technical colleges. We also have business people. We have


local business people coming in and teaching the youngsters on projects,


and therefore our youngsters get used to teamwork, problem-solving.


They becoming playable. Lovely to talk to you. -- they become


employable. Some have called today the first day


of the referendum campaign. It may not feel that way to you,


or me or anyone, but it's all to do with the official designations


yesterday of the groups who'll be To mark this special moment,


we're launching our new series in which we go round the country


and hear from voters about how We've been planning it for weeks,


and yet we were still debating what to call this


series this afternoon. EU and Yours, Knowing Me,


Knowing EU and many other variants We did fix on a name,


and to start us off Katie Razall has At new linen fish company, even at


dawn some truths are university acknowledged. This is your business,


it is fish, I'm guessing you of... Here they know that this is is


paying more for fish. But Europeans eat more fish than we do. A place


for everything and everything must be in its place. They would feel


they would be better off out of the EU. The Spanish and the French can


do whatever they want and we are not allowed to. It's time to leave. It


could still be bigger if we could employ more people and it would be


good for places like this. 44 years in the job. With the catch loaded in


the van, Newsnight hitched a ride with Newlyn fish company's


door-to-door salesman Tony. This is the luxury of the job, we get to see


some beautiful views every single day. I will be voting to come out.


The farming has gone downhill, the fishing has gone downhill, there is


no more mining. But for some of Tony's customers, the referendum is


less cut and dry. I would like some cod please. This loyal customer buys


Tony's fish but not his arguments. I would vote to stay in. It's a worry


knowing what it's going to do to the economy, for our children. I think


it would be a period of incredible flux.


I call on about 150 customers today. Most of them say can I have the


usual please? Luckily I know what the usual is! In general I think we


want to get out of it. So you will vote that way? Yes, Tony will be


happy! There is real poverty in Cornwall. Because the county's GDP


is well below the EU average, European money has poured in,


funding airports, superfast broadband. Between 2000 and 2014,


the EU invested almost ?900 million in Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly.


Another 480 million or so is allocated up to 2020. But it doesn't


always buy them appreciation. Little and large. I will have you know I'm


the tallest in my family! I don't know if I never met anyone as tall


as you. I have a nephew in Canada who is seven foot one. I'm 6-foot


eight. My initial reaction was get out. Because I'm thinking nationally


across the country, is it actually worked while staying in? I'm still


not certain. It is this thing, there are too many questions. Where in the


dark. It was time to bid farewell to Tony. Round the corner from his fish


round but unlikely to be regulars, Penzance's estate, designated the


most deprived area in Cornwall, poorer than parts of Poland and


Lithuania. The charity working out of the community centre has had a


little money from the EU's social fund. This is our signature Sri


Lankan hotpot! Every Thursday they offer a free lunch to those in need.


Welcome, would you like some lunch? They invited me to join them. Since


Brian Collett left the Navy, life has been tough. Where are you living


at the moment, have you got somewhere to live? No. Well, I've


got a tent. A two-man tent. So you're sleeping in a tent somewhere


around Penzance? Yes. In a way I suppose a tent is better than a


doorway, yeah. Living around here especially is just a dead end and as


you said, they pumped a lot of money into Cornwall and I've not even


heard of any money being put into Cornwall. I do know where the money


from the EU has gone but it has certainly not come here. I don't


want to leave the EU. I think this country would be screwed if we left


the EU. We've got no industry any more. We seem to be doing better


being in the EU than without it. I know loads of farmers here who would


be screwed without their EU funding. Does anyone want to leave the EU? No




Are you able to vote? Do you think you will? Without a fixed address,


you don't get anything coming through the post. If I was able to


vote, I would vote to stay in because it's a really romantic idea.


But you know where your bread is buttered. Remain as will take


comfort from those sentiments. Despite Cornwall receiving more


money for each of its inhabitants than anywhere else in England, there


has been a lot of talk that it is veering Eurosceptic head of the


referendum. Carly's Organics is one of 25,000 British businesses to have


got EU help. This pan-European enterprise


received ?300,000 from the EU's regional development fund to build a


new factory and help boost the local economy. It has enabled the business


to grow in terms of sales, which in turn has meant that we can employ


more people. We now employ nine, where we had three before, in Truro.


It's a significant upturn on the number of hours's work, which has


got to be a good thing for COBOL. Newsnight's arrival coincided with


the processing of some very un-European Brazil nuts all the way


from Bolivia. -- for Cornwall. Even here in a place that has benefited


from European support, attitudes as well as ingredients are mixed. I


think it's rather churlish to have this great funding and then say


thank you very much, we opt out. A bit ungrateful? Well, it would feel


like that. It's more than that, my inclination, it may or may not be a


good thing, but so much of our security depends on joining


together. The funding has obviously been incredibly beneficial for us as


a company. We have been able to take the business to where it is. It


doesn't necessarily... I'm still undecided on that. My heart of


hearts, leaving would be a good option as far as being nostalgic and


thinking about Britain being great and thinking about the great


industries we want to have in our country. And bringing independence


to the country. I don't know, I really don't know. I think that the


fact that this factory has been lucky enough to be given European


funding is great. We've employed more people, and hopefully we are


driving more money through Cornwall and then up through the country...


But that doesn't make you think you're definitely going to vote to


stay in? No, not at all. Perhaps the last word should be in Cornish. As


Cornish speakers gathered for a weekend of immersion in a language


officially recognised as a minority tongue. I wondered if you knew if


there was a word in Cornish for Brexit?


LAUGHTER What about remain?


They sang us out, Celts first and Europhiles in the main, many feel a


Brexit would have an adverse impact on the land they love. But some of


their -- many of their Cornish neighbours may not be in tune with


that sentiment. A female political correspondent


was referred to as "totty" What he apparently said


to the journalist, "I want She is Isabel Hardman,


who is a frequent contributor to this programme, and her response


was to complain But not everyone thinks


the act was crime enough Another female journalist,


Isabel Oakeshott, wrote in the Mail, "There is a case to be argued


that she should have been pleased. After all, he expressed


the inclination to talk to her, over and above whoever


else was there". It raises the question about the


frictions of social change are crossed generations.


Isabel Oakeshott is with me now, as is the columnist


Did you really mean it when owe say possibly she should have been


pleased at being called totty? I was saying as a political reporter you


have to have a pretty thick skin. Politics is a rough old game and


politics and journalism they are both rough old games an our bids is


getting story, that is always the focus of any intr action I am having


at work. -- interaction. Personally I am prepared to put up with quite a


lot in the pursuit of the story and being called totty doesn't register


for me on the Richter Scale of offensive. What have you had to put


up with? All sorts over the year, I gave an example in the piece I wrote


for the Mail today of a senior MP, a Knight of the Realm. I named him,


Sir Alan Duncan happens to be gay who pinched my bottom the other day.


I was surprised by I didn't take offence at it. I thought this was


just, you know, one of those things. Jenni, first of all should she have


taken offence at Alan Duncan pinching her bottom? That is its


ball's choice. The more important -- Isobel's choice. The term used to


Isabel Hardman demeaned her, didn't take her seriously, she is an


outstanding political journalist, she was political journalist of the


year, she is a credible person, and what she was taking offence at was


that somebody deciding to treat her in a demeaning fashion, so treating


her less seriously than men round her, if you just ignore this, as the


other Isobel advocates then nothing change, you would never have had a


civil rights movement in America if you said you know black women


shouldn't mind being sent to the back of the bus, you wouldn't have


had gay right's movement if gays hadn't objected to being called


faggots. You only have to put into that sentence I want to talk to the


N word to see that kind of language says you are less a person and it is


right that we should start demanding in twaun 15 that language isn't


accepting. Or 2016 even. Yes. I disagree about the comparisons you


make, the heart of the matter is this, think, when the gentleman


concerned used the word totty he meant it, however clumsily, he meant


it as a compliment, the other words you use were clearly der rowing tri.


It is also der rowing tri, it says I am not treating you as a political


journalist, I am talking to you in sexual term, unless you acts that


women do not get taken seriously for we know that because we had a


century behind us of women being treated like that, going through the


'50s and nothing changed until women started saying don't treat us that


way. To be clear, you made various suggestions of how you might behave


in that way and one was she could have written a note to him. Yes Or


could have said something to him personally. Am I assuming that


wouldn't work for you? She has to make an issue and a public issue,


because otherwise it doesn't tell everybody else. That is the point.


The point is there is still an incredible amount of sexism going


on. I know people, women working in offices now who are subjected to


something much worse, but they are unable to talk about because they


are powerless. If they alienate the men working with them they know that


will be punished. Isobel was in the position of being strong enough and


in a strong enough position to be able to call this out. It doesn't


rebound on her personally and has the advantage that it is public


issue, other men in the Commons won't say it to her, and won't say


it to other journalist, and everybody is thinking about this


issue now. A private note would have accomplished nothing in the matter


of social change. As far as I am concerned, I am there to report a


stories, I am a political commentator, I don't work for the


Fawcett Society, I am not a campaigner. Women are not treated


equally to men, is that not a concern to you. I have suffered sex


criminal on many level, much of it trivial. You roll with the punch,


the problem is, in no way do icon done sex enrichment. You are with


this. If you start making an enormous fuss about very small


things, then you would never have time to do your job, you would be be


going off whiting to the whips. It wasn't an enormous fuss, she didn't


name the MP, she said this has happened I think it is unacceptable


and she reported this person to the whips. It couldn't have been handled


better. I have extreme respect for Isabel Hardman, she is a colleague,


she knew I was going to write this, we discussed it. But the inevitable


consequence she well knew about tweeting about it was there was


going to be a fire storm. Can I add something important. One very brief


point. I watched a speech by Martin Luther King who explained why it was


important that words like neck row should no longer be used he said you


start with behavioural change. Then that changes attitudes, and in the


end it changes men's minds, that kind of sexism is what means that


women don't get taken seriously. I say choose your battles. We leave it


there. She chose it well. Fans of the film director


Peter Greenaway will not be disappointed by his new movie,


which opens in art house It's every bit as visually lush


as Greenaway's other films - such as The Cook, the Thief,


His wife and Her Lover. And in the Greenaway


style, very physical. By which I mean there are explicit


depictions of nakedness, As well as anal sex of a kind


you don't normally see on screen, unless you venture into the more


obscure parts of Tumblr. The film is about the giant


of Soviet film-making, Sergei Eisenstein, a ten day visit


he made to the Mexican Sergei Eisenstein was


one of the creators The 1925 silent epic


Battleship Potemkin always cited as one of the most important


movies ever made. This scene on the Odessa steps one


of the most famous in film. Eisenstein himself had a turbulent


career, sometimes in - His reputation outside Russia


took him to Hollywood, He did team up with the left-leaning


writer Upton Sinclair, who helped finance some of his work,


including a trip to Mexico, in which he burned through cash,


produced miles of film, and yet which didn't result


in a marketable product. Peter Greenaway's film focusses


on ten days in Mexico and a gay relationship between Eisenstein


and his Mexican minder. Well, Peter Greenaway is with us,


good evening. So where does Eisenstein rank in your Pantheon of


great, of the film world? Well, we haven't had a lot of cinema, it has


only been going 120 years so maybe we shouldn't be churlish but I think


probably, you know, in terms of real visionary film-makers there have


been very few. You can count them on the fingers of two hands, I think. I


would rate Eisenstein right at the top of that list. It helped of


course, that he is working in the 1920s and people were saying what is


cinema? They are finding out the vocabulary, he was not particularly


surprise, surprise really so I suppose politically committed. He is


nicely ironic about everything that is happening. He has had some


experience in the theatre, and he has made one, I think, masterpiece


called Strike, a piece of propaganda. That was the first one?


Yes. And he made it when he was 26, and it is extraordinary, that such


an amazing film, which I would say was one of the really first, you


know successful cinematic products it is amazing... How annoying! You


have taken this ten day period, ten days in the making of and he has


this favour with his minder, how real is that story? Is that loosely


based on true facts or is this inspired by some events that you


possibly occurred? You sound as though you are doubting me already.


I can show you the archivele material. He had this devoted


secretary back in Moscow, and she was certainly in love with him, but


he did not return that affection but they had an intimate correspondence.


It is all there in an archive, in Moscow, I can produce the archive


and I can say that it is not a Peter Greenaway fibbingion. The Russians


-- fiction. The Russians don't like it, he is a Russian hero, they don't


like the fact you have made him gay. Well, there is a feeling, I sup


poets, I wouldn't say I have great friend in Russia but lots of


acquaintances and the average Russian are not phased by this


homophobia thing, I think, we regard it as a piece of political


gesturing, to demonise the west. -- fazed. I think also, maybe there are


other ways I have offended, after all, I haven't put a film, I haven't


put the film together about Eisenstein in Russia but outside


Russia. We haven't, one would imagine it would be sensible and


that is what we tried for, to get a Russian actor to play it. So I


didn't do too well there. On these three counts for a time I was


unpopular. Let us talk about film. You have said some interesting


things about film. You think stories are not that important. It is all


about the visual imagery, you are a painter by trade. By training, from


a very early age, about 13 or 14, I wished to have had a career as a


paint e still hoping for it! But you know, text has so many ways in which


to purvey its meaning, 8,000 years of lyric poetry, 350 years of the


novel. The theatre hands its meaning down in text and not in image, so


let us really sigh if we can create a cinema that is really all powerful


and depend very largely on image, not on text, because you know,


cinema is meant to be about picture but we have a text based medium.


Every film you have seen started its life as text I can be certain. You


can say we haven't seen cinema, we have seen 120 years illustrated


literature. ? Before we let you go, the big issue here, you live in


Amsterdam, the big issue is our relationship with Europe. I don't


know if you get a vote, have you been in Amsterdam...? I still have a


vote, I have to say I don't make great use of, here in Great Britain.


But file, you know I feel I have, a live in Amsterdam. I feel like a


good European? Is that a cliche. I am happy with that. I think it


regret ful there are plans for Great Britain to leave the European


community. And cultural link sthrrks a film industry thing that would


say, you know, like the farmers and fishermen have their take? There is


a Dutch film industry, and in its own circumstances it is, you know it


is followed and it is enthusiastic, I don't think we can say that


Holland is a film-making industry country, but they do have, I mean


think of the painter, you know... The visual imagery again. It is, you


know, if you are fascinated by visual literacy, they can give it


broigle and Vermeer and Van Gogh, the list is endless. And three


cheers for them. Peter Greenaway. Thank you.


That's just about it for tonight where, in Porthcawl,


a pair of benches sit besides one of the most beautiful


But instead of facing the glorious sea, Bridgend Council officials


In defence of this rather odd placement, tourism chiefs christened


the benches as Britian's first dedicated "selfie benches".


So we asked local residents to take a seat and send


MUSIC: She's Built The Wrong Way Round" by Hugh Cornwall.


Bo Thursday brought us a day of sunshine and scattered showers and


we will see further heavy downpours at times in the south. The odd


rumble of thunder, further knot o for Scotland and Northern Ireland a


wetter front makes its way south, by the afternoon a return to sunshine


but chilly conditions in Northern Ireland. Some


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