With Evan Davis. How will the 'unusual' campaigns affect Thursday's vote? Plus a look back at the European dream, Turkey and the comedian, and the economics of Leicester.
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On Thursday, Britain goes to the polls, after perhaps the most
bonkers build up to a vote that anyone can remember.
Labour has to deal with rows over anti-semitism and maybe
Each of the parties is in a bit of trouble themselves.
The Conservatives are divided over Europe.
Labour are divided over the Corbyn leadership.
No one really knows if the Lib Dems are divided or not,
there are so few of them that nobody is really paying attention any more.
And Ukip are having trouble really finding a role in the post-EU
We'll be looking at how to judge the results,
and examining Labour's prospects in particular
The grand vision of a united continent.
Is this theme park what it's reduced to?
Have the EU's founding fathers' visions has been delivered.
Maybe it was a bit naive, but we thought we were
in the position to change European history.
Sounds a bit stupid, but we believed in that.
The Newsnight take on Leicester's success: we hear from a City
If you look at many of the great successes of our time it's because
other people underestimated them. The day after tomorrow,
everybody in the country Parliaments or Assemblies
in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland,
councils across England and Wales, mayors in London and three other
big cities, and Police and Crime Commissioners in much
of England and Wales too. It is a British Super-Thursday,
a rare comprehensive test of the voter's views away
from a general election. But politics is in a
weird place right now. Who'd have thought the Conservatives
would be running close And that there could be as much
fighting within the big parties For Labour, this is
a particularly awkward time, So all in all, a good moment
for our new political editor, He'll tell us not just what,
but how and why as well. You've been on the campaign trail,
what news, what noise? Yes, I've been focusing today mainly on the
Labour Party. What I've learned tonight is that Sadiq Khan, who may
well achieve Labour's only real success on Thursday in the London
mayor or contest, his plan if he wins is that he will mark that
victory without Jeremy Corbyn by his side. Sadiq Khan is taking nothing
for granted, those votes have not been passed yet and nothing is
inevitable. But the plan is that in the immediate aftermath of a
victory, we would not see Jeremy Corbyn by his side. When Boris
Johnson won in 2008, and 2012, there was David Cameron by his side,
getting a mandate only bettered in Europe by the president of France.
Sadiq Khan has run his own campaign and he wants to show that if he
wins. So he has some reservations about how much of an asset Jeremy
Corbyn is to him. More generally, how far do those concerns go? These
concerns do run through the Shadow Cabinet. I was speaking to one
member to Julia Day who said that Sadiq Khan has shown how you win by
building coalitions, and Jeremy Corbyn is showing how you lose.
There are concerns about the election poster launched today. It
was felt that was a little bit divisive, a little bit harsh. What
that means, on everyone's lips in the Labour Party at the moment is
the future leadership of their party.
The May sunshine brought out a mood of optimism among Jeremy Corbyn
supporters this morning as the Labour Party unveiled its English
council election post in Southwark. After a rocky week for the
leadership, Labour's director of strategy and communications was on
hand to reinforce the message of party unity. Thursday's vote will be
the first national test of Jeremy Corbyn's leadership. No official
opposition has lost seats in English local election outside a general
election year since 1985 and today he insisted he would not be breaking
the record. We will not lose seats, we are looking to gain seats where
we can. These elections are being fought on the issues of every
different community around the country and a record of what this
government is about. Politics is throwing up all sorts of unusual
conundrums. Net gains from Labour are unlikely but not out of the
question. If Labour lose more than 150 seats, that is bad news for
them. If they gain more than 150, that's really good news. If they
hold onto what they've got at the moment that's a perfectly fine day
at the office. It is a year to the day since Ed Miliband unveiled what
came to be known as the Ed Stone. The party's poor result in 2015
ended his leadership. Could a bad showing on Thursday do the same for
Corbyn? There are many, possibly even a majority of Labour MPs who
would dearly like to see Jeremy Corbyn go, but there are notes and
there are divisions. Nerves that Jeremy Corbyn's overwhelming mandate
means he could emerge even stronger from a challenge, and divisions over
the trigger for a contest. Some say it would take a vote to leave in the
EU referendum. Even if die-hard critics say that three conditions
would have to be met. First, five members of the Shadow Cabinet would
have to resign. Secondly, deputy leader Tom Watson would have to
offer his tacit support. Thirdly the chief Rip must not stand in the way.
All in all that looks like a pretty tall order at the moment. The ultras
who would like to see Corbyn removed immediately have confident to
Newsnight a Sun report that the veteran Labour MP Margaret Hodge
would be an ideal candidate to challenge the Labour leader. But all
eyes are on Corbyn's long-standing ally John McDonnell. Senior
backbenchers say privately they think he is sizing up his chances.
But he insists he is standing by his friends. Although allies are leaving
no one in any doubt that he believes Corbyn was slow off the mark in
dealing with the crisis over alleged anti-Semitism in the party. It looks
like Sadiq Khan may provide the only prospect of good news for Jeremy
Corbyn on super Thursday. The Labour leader will be hoping he wins
because of rejection by voters in London or a wing by the Leave side
are likely to be the only triggers for a challenge this side of the
Labour conference. Jonathan Ashworth,
Labour's Shadow Minister Your leader said we are not going to
lose any seats. Do you agree? Of course I share Jeremy's confidence
and enthusiasm about the elections this Thursday. I have been on lots
of programmes like these in the past and I'm afraid I don't make any
predictions about what we will win or lose ahead of the polls opening.
I don't want you to make a prediction, there are other people
who can do that. I guess I'm trying to work out what would constitute
success or failure. Presumably if you lost seats, that would be quite
a disaster? I don't want to see us losing seats and I don't think any
Labour Party member wants to see us losing seats. I know that Labour
Party councillors and Labour Party parliamentarians in the assembly and
the parliament that are fighting for real action do a tremendous job
serving their constituents and I don't want to seek any of them fail
to be returned to office. Said that would be a bad place for Labour?
Some predictions are that they would lose 150, that would clearly be a
crisis? As I say, I've been plenty of programmes ahead of elections.
Your leader says you will not lose any seats. We in the Labour Party
are running a positive campaign, out there on the doorstep over time,
talking to people about issues as I have been quite a lot recently, and
when I talk to people about the issues, they want to talk about the
state of their local hospital, schools, the services that council
delivers. You cannot make an optimistic prediction and not then
say it's disappointing if we don't make it on the day. Is the evidence
at this point that the party is struggling to break through? Let me
put this to you: Jeremy Corbyn won the leadership, and many argued that
he would connect with some Labour voters better than some of the other
candidates. I'm just wondering whether you think that has actually
happened? Well, Jeremy Corbyn did win the leadership quite handsomely,
and he has a mandate from the Labour Party members to get us back into
power. We all want to see us winning elections. I'm detecting a bit of
resistance to the proposition that he has connected with voters. In
Scotland tilting left will win voters, they said, but now you are
computing with the Tories for second or third place, is that narrative
working, that Corbyn connects? Lets do the post-match analysis when the
match has actually been played. The one election we have had was the old
by-election last autumn. I remember coming on some other programmes like
this where similar questions were asked and we ended up winning that
by-election with a substantial majority. The Tories have had a
pretty torrid time, crises over tax, steel, tax credits, all these
things. And yet it doesn't feel as though Labour are where they should
be, let alone with a leader who has this special power of connection.
The Labour Party suffered quite a catastrophic defeat at the general
election last year. I think the Labour Party has a mountain to climb
to win an election in 2020. I want to see us making progress but I
don't think anybody would expect us to completely turn things around in
12 months. The key thing is the Tories are having a torrid time.
When I'm talking to people on the doorstep as I am every week and
indeed if we weren't celebrating Leicester's great victory in my
constituency, we would have been talking to them today. The issues
always come down to tax credit cuts, schools, which people are deeply
concerned about, the fact that you can hardly get to see a GP and
waiting lists are going up, these are the issues people are generally
raising with us on the doorstep. Leadership challenge, what would be
your message to people briefing papers, talking up Margaret Hodge as
a candidate, what is your message? It's not going to happen, is it?
It's off. I think it was Tom Watson who said people should just come
down. I don't think anything like this will happen. Party members have
given Jeremy and mandate to get us back into power, that's what they
want to do. OK. Just got to go to the anti-Semitism row. I'm not clear
what the narrative is. Is it that there is not an anti-Semitism
problem? And it is a smear? To try to undermine the leader? Or is it
that there is an anti-Semitism problem? I've been a member of the
Labour Party for 22 years since I was 15, we are not anti-Semitic
party, we abhor anti-Semitism. We are resolute against it. Individuals
have been posting disgusting things on social media, one high-profile
individual saying outrageous ins. When we are presented with that
evidence, we suspend them. There is no place for those views in the
Labour Party and we are clear on that. In the last few days there has
been a problem which is why Jeremy Corbyn stepped in. Overall the
Labour Party is not an anti-Semitic party, but where we are confronted
with these problems we deal with them and send the message that they
are not welcome. You tried to draw a line under it by setting up the
panel, and there have been murmurings and rows about the
composition of that panel, there is one Jewish member who some say has
already said that these charges of anti-Semitism are baseless, I
believe the president of the board of British Jews has told us about
that. He is worried about that. I wonder whether there is still a row
on going on this whole thing. Let me say this, I am a member of the
Labour Party's National executive committee, I am disgusted by
anti-Semitism and I am resolute in my opposition to it. I will do all I
can as a member of the National executive committee to ensure that
these various enquiries are conducted in a way which meets the
confidence of the people concerned. Jonathan Ashworth, thanks very much
indeed. Well we all know that while this
Thursday is important, there is another vote coming along
on Thursday, June 23rd, which will have a big shape
on party politics too. To help you think about the EU,
we're taking a step back this week, with three films that look
at the grand vision of the EU founding fathers,
and what has been achieved. The themes of peace and prosperity
were to be delivered by among other things,
ever closer union, free movement of people
and monetary union. Well, we sent our reporter
Gabriel Gatehouse in search If the European Union has
a birthplace, then it is here. In this little cottage in a woodland
west of Paris. If the EU has a founding father then
it is this man. In the broken remains
of post-war Europe, together with a trusted circle of advisers,
over coffee and cognac and fireside chats, they dreamed of a continent
prosperous and at peace. Jean Monnet had
a vision in this house. And from here he set the whole
European project in motion. But what has become
of that original vision? Over the next three nights we're
going to be asking what state of health is the European
dream in today? To bind the economies
of Europe so tightly that war He took his plan to
the French Foreign Minister. Together they formulated the Schuman
Declaration. Those early Europe builders began
by pooling production of coal and steel, it was the first step
towards that de facto solidarity. It would lead, they hoped,
to a federation of Europe. There are not many of that
generation left today, but in an apartment in the 17th
arrondissement of Georges Berthoin is the last
surviving member of Jean Monnet's original cabinet at the European
Coal and Steel Community. It was the first institution
out of which would grow The dream was to make peace
among European countries Then there was another element,
the element was prosperity. So the problem was not only
to rebuild Europe but to modernise Europe and in this respect
we were looking at the example of the United States
of America and especially Peace and prosperity,
that was the goal. Five years later, six countries
would sign the Treaty of Rome, establishing
the European Economic Community. The ambition was for
a much closer union. The Schuman Declaration
was the first step towards When we started, we thought
we were going to start something and we thought at the time
that we were going to accede to all things including political
development, within ten years. And so it happened that France
and Germany formed the central And they enjoyed decades
of peace and prosperity. A de facto solidarity
among member nations. This is Breisach on
the Rhine in Germany. Across the river, Neuf-Brisach in
France. The French built these
fortifications to guard against These two towns that saw three wars
in 70 years are now the heartland Here then are two towns
from opposite banks of the Rhine. They are living together in peace,
their citizens can travel freely backwards and forwards
across this bridge. And whatever side they happen
to find themselves on, they can pay for stuff
in a common currency. In so many ways this is exactly
what the European project has Over the decades Europe brought
with it all sorts of benefits. Jobs, common rights and protections
for workers, but you don't have to dig very deep here to discover
that the river still divides. On the French side,
around Neuf-Brisach, This one used to produce pistons
for the European car industry. But in 2013 high labour costs forced
it to close. Unemployment in this part of France
is around 10% and rising. GDP is well below
the European average. For these French workers overseeing
the demolition of their own factory, the EU today means seeing their jobs
move to new member states in Eastern There was a dream, a European dream,
in the 1950s, 1960s, Do you think that
dream is still alive? I think no, peace is here in Europe,
but prosperity I think no. In Germany I think a little
prosperity but here in France, no. Indeed, back across the river
in German Breisach, The citizens of this region,
Baden Wurtenberg, are among Just up the road from Breisach,
we stumble across what appears to be the most pro-European place
on the continent. Is this the stuff that
dreams are made of? Meet Euro Mouse, the mascot of this
Europe in microcosm. Nestled among the roller-coasters
are many of the member states. Scandinavia, Portugal, Greece,
which includes Pegasus, Cassandra's curse,
and the flight of Icarus. Black cabs, fast-food,
and Shakespeare. Who knew the EU could
be such family fun? Which is your favourite
bit of the park? Our favourite bit is Scandinavia,
I think. I like England, but the thing
is you haven't got a lot of variety. The history of Europa Park reads
like a sort of German It was founded by the Mack family,
stalwarts of German manufacturing The park opened its doors in 1975,
inspired by the vision We chose Europe and we think
it was the best way to go, even though nobody believed that
that time Europe would be As much of Europe struggles
with an economic crisis, in Germany the dream of prosperity
still burns brightly. Today nearly half the park's workers
are from other EU nations. We are about to open
a water park in 2018. We need another 700 employees,
so it is quite difficult because the unemployment rate
is so low in this area. Despite Europe's economies pulling
in different directions its nations Back on the road, we drive through
Verdun. Verdun is to the French
what The Somme is to the British. 100 years ago hundreds of thousands
of young men lost their Along the roads that wind
through Europe's heartland, history lurks
around every bend. It is now at the heart
of the European project. Throughout the EU's development,
from its beginnings in coal and steel, through the Treaty
of Rome, the single European act, the Maastricht Treaty,
the direction of travel Maybe it was a bit naive
but we thought we were in a position You know, at that time,
we had the backing of public Because the experience
and the tragedy of the war I use the expression,
but it was not one we used at that time, to build a kind
of United States of Europe. These days, if you say you support
a United States of Europe, you might These young activists are handing
out leaflets for a by-election Last time around they took
a third of the votes. And it was the year
of the Treaty of Maastricht. And so we have not known
this European dream. All we have known is only
unemployment, taxes, and all the disadvantages
of this European Union. We have not known
this European dream. A year from now, its leader
Marine Le Pen could become She has promised to follow
Britain's lead and hold We need to find back our
borders, our sovereignty, To respect our own laws,
which are not the same as in Germany Some people worry that a party
like yours is leading Europe back towards nationalism,
back towards the place You're right, the European Union
is leading us back. It is the European Union that
creates unemployment and insecurity. The original founders
of the EU had a dream. Of creating peace and prosperity
through an ever closer union of nation states,
based on common interests The thing about ever closer union
is that it presupposes a corresponding weakening
of individual national identity. Now it may be that the founders
of the European Union thought that by the time we got to the second
decade of the 21st century, the nation state would be a concept
that had had its day. Across Europe the politics
of identity is on the rise. Tomorrow night we will be
looking at borders. How the fall of the Iron Curtain led
to a Europe more united than ever and how a quarter of a century
later, the continent is in crisis over one of the cornerstones
of the European dream, Gabriel Gatehouse there,
Europe past and present. But on the specifics
of freedom of movement, in the here and now,
the EU, faces a problem. The story is that Turkey has helped
cut the number of migrants sailing to Greece, giving
Europe some respite But Turkey has driven
a hard bargain for that - above all, it expects the Schengen
zone to allow visa free travel Tomorrow
the European Commission is set However, it is controversial,
and will still have to go Earlier I spoke to Ilnur Cevik,
who is senior advisor I asked him if Turkey would pull out
of the deal if not granted Visa free travel.
You see, the visa agreement is not a concession.
Turkey has been given this right through EU-Turkey
And if the EU reneges on this deal, then all the other
There are 72 conditions which the EU says Turkey must meet before it can
Are you saying you've met all 72 of those conditions?
Nearly all of them have been met and the EU is going to report that
whether we have or we have not in the following days.
But if the EU says, look, you haven't met them all,
you've only met 62 of them, then it will say you can't
have your visa-free travel yet, will you still say the deal doesn't
hold and you'll come out of the migrant deal?
If some of the clauses have not been met, they will be completed by June.
But after that, if we have completed all the deal,
and they still say we are not going to have free travel for Turks
in the European Union countries in the Schengen area, of course,
barring the United Kingdom and Ireland, then the deal is off.
But look, one of the things the EU says you have to do
is align your legal framework with protocols set out
in the European Convention on Human Rights.
Protocol seven for example, on crime in the family,
article five provides for equality between spouses.
You can't arrange for equality between spouses in your legal code
between now and the end of June, that would be quite a big thing for
But at the moment most of these have been fulfilled.
But not all of them and the EU shouldn't let you in if you haven't
It says you've got to meet them all, that's the deal.
Take it this way, Turkey has fulfilled its obligations
of stopping illegal immigrants to the Greek islands.
Today there is a dismal amount of people going through.
We still continue carrying this burden.
Plus, you see, the EU agreement with Turkey is not a concession.
What they are giving us as a concession,
what they are portraying as a concession on the visa question
Look, let me just ask one last question, back to the issue
What is your view as to how the European Union has
And whether you think it has been effective or not?
The European Union is still shutting its eyes to the realities
The European Union has created a big mess in Syria,
along with the Americans, and they should have known that
by ruining and messing up in Syria, all these refugees would be leaving
the country, because, when I say this, we should have
Turkey, the European Union, the Americans altogether.
We should have got rid of Assad but we didn't.
3 million people, Turkey has spent $10 billion for them.
Now, what has the European Union done?
What kind of European values are we talking about here?
The European Union has given a very bad test, they have
Thank you very much, thank you.
The big winner of the English Premier League this season?
It's looking super competive, and more interesting than its rivals.
In the last four years it has had four different champions -
in France, Italy and Scotland, they've had the same
It's not been a bad season for Leicester City either.
Everybody is trying to work out what it was that made
Leicester's table-topping performance.
Matthew Syed writes about sport, business and success.
If anyone can crack it, he surely can.
Tonight Leicester City have to sit, watch, and to listen. Yes! And
that's it. It has finished 2-2. And we can say now Leicester City are
the Premier League champions. How on earth did Leicester City win the
Premier League? What does their victory tell us about how to win in
the world beyond sport? Here are five possible takeaway is. Football
is fatigued. It is deciding what to do in response to what the
opposition is doing. Many teams playing Leicester decided to attack,
they were the minnows destined for a relegation. That gave them a
priceless opportunity to play on the counterattack. Like so many
successful underdogs in corporate and political worlds, they found the
perfect tactical niche. Look at what happened with Nokia, somebody who
made gumboots, nobody thought they would be a mobile phone company.
Nobody was really paying attention to what Apple was doing with phones.
The idea that you can get your opponents to underestimate you is
one of the great advantages in the world.
The modus operandi of modern football is the Galacticos signing.
You get a team made up of paycheque players.
Soloists, who never really learn to play as an orchestra.
The Leicester fans have a new group of heroes. But this is a group of
disparate men, many of whom have been plucked from obscurity.
In the 1890s a French engineer asked his students to pull on a rope
Pulling alone, they managed 85 kilos.
When they combined as a team, the individual contribution
This is still considered a seminal experiment because it showed that
teams do not always add up to more than the sum of their parts.
People allow others to take the burden.
One of the engines behind the early success of Apple was the passion of
its consumers. For them it wasn't just the brand, but the community.
One of the most complex managerial challenges has been to sustain a
sense of intimacy as the company has grown into a global giant. The same
problem manifests itself in football. For example many of the
traditional fan base of Manchester United have come to feel alienated
from the club as it has grown into a global franchise.
Leicester City is small enough as a club to retain
a sense of intimacy, a real sense of community ownership.
If you are going to have your best season ever, do it when your main
rivals are failing to deliver. What is interesting, if you remember a
American retailing, these huge giants, Sears Roebuck, they spent
the whole time focused on each other, just as Manchester United
worrying about Manchester city, or Chelsea worrying about Arsenal. They
did not notice a small company called Amazon coming in from the
outside. Everybody in football is trying to deconstruct the Leicester
miracle, and their role wide lessons outside of the sport. The beauty of
the greatest of sporting upsets is that they cannot be fully explained.
That is ultimately what differentiates sport from pure
science. John Mickelson wait had put a bet on
them winning the Premier League year after year, but he did not do it
this year. The film director Stephen Frears -
who made My Beautiful Launderette, Philomena, High Fidelity,
among many others - is from Good evening. Did you keep the faith
with Leicester City? I heard Julian Barnes on the radio this morning, he
left Leicester when he was six weeks old and he still supports them. I
did up until my 20s. Who do you support now? Arsenal. I'm a tragic
figure, yes. It's got worse. The interesting thing is there is a
story, and isn't that what football is really about? Of course. You are
a journalist, so you would say that. But isn't that really the story?
Would make a great film, wouldn't it? Wove you should never try to
make a film about soccer. But all that has happened is a provincial
club has beaten metropolitan clubs, that is always satisfying. A club
run by a highly eccentric intelligent Italian has done well,
those are values I support. You don't seem quite as excited about it
as the rest of the nation. Perhaps I'm a party Bupa. All you want to
say is well done, and it's great for the people of Leicester. Great for
Ranieri and all his players, that's terrific. Reflect on the appeal of
an underdog. What is it in the past that makes us so happy? We all
believe in Hollywood. I'm more sceptical about the Hollywood bit.
But you like an underdog, don't you? And trying to think. Of course I do.
They are the best movies, aren't they? I'm not as sentimental as you
are, I can feel a sob, a lump in your throat. People had already
started thinking about the movie, but that would not interest you? I
don't know how you show soccer on the screen. It is so good to watch.
The match Spurs played was so incredible, so violent, amongst
other things. You'd never get that on films. One of the things people
say about football, it was much nicer in the old day when players
were paid 6p, and it was very different. Are you on the point of
saying capitalism has destroyed soccer? People keep saying that, but
don't they really want the best players in the world. On the one
hand you see gains you never dreamt about, the quality now is
phenomenal. But you lose the partisanship, you lose the modesty.
And yesterday was a day for modesty. So I hope that lesson has been
learnt. I'd be very surprised if it has. Key question, you are not going
to give up Arsenal and go back to Leicester, are you? No, no. Football
has a tragic quality. And the people of Leicester will be in despair next
season, I'm afraid. I wonder whether that's true. That's because you are
sentimental. Actually there are much more interesting lessons to be
learned from Spurs and West Ham. It's a miracle they've won, and you
can only be consumed with admiration, up to appoint. Stephen
Frears, thanks much indeed. That's almost it. Flash photography, as we
leave you with the London mayoral candidate Zac Goldsmith who ran into
trouble in an interview for saying he was a Bollywood fan.
The intrepid reporter from Red Carpet News TV
smelled his opportunity and went full Paxman.
If you look very hard, you can almost see what's
I'm a Bollywood fan, so anything with a Bollywood
Do you have a favourite actor, a favourite Bollywood film?
You can't think of a single Bollywood film or actor?
I date my Oxford life from my first meeting with Sebastien.
I love almost everything about Bollywood.
I love the atmosphere, I love the colour, I love the
In-depth investigation and analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Evan Davis.
How will the 'unusual' campaigns affect Thursday's vote? Plus a look back at the European dream, Turkey and the comedian, and the economics of Leicester.