Another act of terror hits Europe as a shopping centre in Munich is attacked by multiple gunmen, and Emily Maitlis reports from the Republican National Convention.
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A shopping centre in Munich is targeted by up to three attackers
leaving at least eight dead and many more injured.
TRANSLATION: There are many badly injured, our crisis team is
taking care of about 100 people and all the police forces
Police are still hunting the attackers as hundreds of people
are stranded by a public transport shutdown in the city.
It's still a developing situation, but the German police say they're
And we're at the Republican National Convention,
gauging the reaction to Trump's vision for his presidency
and his plan to take the fight to Hillary.
The most important difference between our plan and that of our
opponent is that our plan will put America first. CHEERING
Abject and bloody terror has been visited upon another European city
tonight and its perpetrators are still at large in Munich.
Local police report that eight people were killed
and many more severely injured after up to three gunmen
opened fire at a shopping centre in the German city's Moosach
district just over six and a half hours ago.
Public transport has been suspended, citizens have been advised to stay
indoors and the authorities have described an acute
A gunman opens fire on a Munich street just before 4pm this
afternoon. GUNFIRE People around the area fleet, as
there's more shop inside the Olympia shopping centre just across the
road. -- more shots. It is in the north-west of Munich. Eyewitnesses
in the shopping centre described the scene. TRANSLATION: My wife and
daughter are missing. I was inside the shopping centre that my wife
wasn't with me. I still have stuff to do and she wanted to go to
another shop. I said, go ahead, with my daughter, and I will, to you
afterwards. I saw people running out with them and I asked what is going
on, no one had a clue. Only one man said there is a man with a gun he
was shooting other people. The situation is still very unclear and
developing but police say there are at least eight casualties with up to
three gunmen involved and still on the run.
TRANSLATION: There are many badly injured, our crisis team is taking
care of about 100 people and all the police forces are busy with the
manhunt. It's the panic there were reports of
shootings elsewhere in this city although they now appear not to be
correct. Police have told people to stay indoors. Metro and bus services
have been stopped and the area around the shopping more has been
blocked off by police. Other videos of the attack at or attackers have
also appeared. Here, one walks around a car park roof with a
handgun. In an extraordinary exchange with an onlooker, he
apparently insults Turks and says, "I am German". Could this be a clue
to his motives? An attack by far right extremists on the fifth
anniversary of the attack by Anders Breivik in Norway. Police have said
they are treating it as suspected terrorism, but we don't know any
more. The idea of taking a gun and shooting in a public location is
something we have seen repeatedly being used by groups with also sub
ideology is. We recently saw a spree shooting in a nightclub. Anders
Breivik used guns to kill lots of people. It is something we have seen
different ideologies using. It is a basic fundamental ideology, get a
gun and shoots lots of people. If you have a gun you can kill quite a
few people and have a high impact. Earlier this week Germany
experienced its first Isis related attack when a teenage refugee armed
with an axe targeted passengers on a train. Another possibility is that
today buzz events are the latest in a series of jihadi attacks in Europe
-- today's events. Whatever the motive, if it is at all political
comment could have a far-reaching impact in Germany. Tonight, though,
the search for those responsible still continues.
Well Andrew Plant can now join us from Munich.
Good evening. What is the very latest situation?
A lot of confusion here when we landed
because, obviously, most people are coming here just to try to get
back to their homes, but told they can't
get their normal buses and taxis into the city
centre, because so many roads are closed.
It shows you the lockdown Munich city centre is in right now.
The latest, as we understand it, here on the manhunt is this:
Eyewitnesses are saying there were three men with guns.
There are reports that one of those men has died.
Police haven't confirmed that, but they have
Possibly three men on the run right now. Metro quickly evacuated because
one person had said the gunmen had gone underground. Quickly evacuated
and searched, no reports of any arrest. We have heard that police
are being drafted in from Austria. We are only about 50 miles away here
from the German-Austrian border. We also know that German
officials have said so they are beefing up
their border security. That shows you the scale of the
manhunt is not just in Munich but potentially over a much wider area.
What is the mood amongst all very people? You mentioned the lockdown
and confusion that many of the streets will be deserted, of course.
Track but many. Munich police have used social media
to their benefit. In the first hour or so they used social media to ask
people not to share pictures of the attack but they also used it to get
a wide message out to a lot of people very quickly. They said,
please stay away from the streets of Munich. If you are at home, stay at
home, don't come outside until we know what the situation is. They use
it to contact local taxi drivers, not to pick up fares and bring them
into the city centre. One more thing going on, to help people who are in
Munich perhaps stranded and not sure where to go to take shelter. People
had been tweeting with the hashtag open door. If you are stuck and
don't know where to go, you can look on twitter, find someone who has
been tweeting that hashtag. There are lots of them out there right
now, you can go to their home and they will give you sang tree until
people know what is going on right now. Thank you.
Our Diplomatic Editor Mark Urban is here in the studio.
As we have heard, it is a fast moving and incredibly fluid
situation in Munich. What are the challenges the police are facing in
getting inaccurate picture of what has happened and ideally, of course,
catching the people responsible? -- an accurate. We have seen this from
a number of incidents, echo chamber of social media and people reporting
things, some distortion, perhaps, as to what we are actually looking at.
Are there multiple shooters, really? We saw this report in Dallas when it
happened a couple of weeks ago. It turned out to be one. Long firearms,
rifle type weapons? I very much doubt it. Bubbly people seeing
plainclothes police getting involved. Arch probably people. At
the last few hours, no reports of gunshots -- probably people. The
police have suggested that the ninth person they found dead may well be
the gunmen in Black, who we saw in that film. One has to ask, were
there ever another one or two? If there were, given the absence of any
ongoing incidents in the last hour or two, it is possible they had
escaped but equally possible and looking increasingly likely, that
this is a lone gunmen who may now have taken his own life. You
mentioned the other incidents we have seen in the continent on the
last few weeks and months. We don't know that much about the German
authorities's capacity to cope. Does it differ from the French, for
example? It would be fair to say that when you talk to the British
people, military and police who might be involved in this, they look
with some envy at the capabilities that those two countries can deploy.
If we look at the situation in Germany, for example, to night, I
can see officers from the special armed unit of the city police and
also a special unit commander SEK, almost like SAS assault forced
deployed by the state police and they were there incredibly quickly
at that shopping centre. It is an impressive response. The analogous
place would be Manchester or Glasgow. You talk to the police and
there is a pretty small number of specialist firearms officers on duty
even in those large British cities on the average day. It is a very
extensive response the Germans can bring. Also some other resources
coming in, GS, G nine, national SAS type unit is also on its way down to
Munich. If there are the people are at large, they will probably run
them to ground quite quickly. Thank you very much.
Joining me via Skype from Berlin is Yassin Musharbash,
terrorism analyst for the German national weekly paper, Die Zeit.
Many thanks for your time. We have heard some speculation that it may
be a Lone Wolf attacker with perhaps no affiliations. The alternative, of
course, it even recent events in Nice and elsewhere is that there
will be an Islamist subtext to this attack, tell us a bit about the
situation in Germany. With regard to the fear of Islamist terrorism. The
fear is large. Only a couple of days ago we witnessed a terror attack in
Germany. The first one, as a matter of fact, that was claimed by the
Islamic State. This was on the train? Exactly. Everybody here was
on high alert already. As the news broke, after the shooting incident
in Munich, I believe what most people assumed immediately was that
this is most likely get hardest attack. -- jihadist. As your
correspondence that, we do not know. It is too early to say at this
moment. All options are still on the table. Ranging from a single shooter
to a jihadist cell of three people, some of whom may perhaps still be on
the run, we don't know yet. Of course. Tell me a bit about the
atmosphere in Germany and specifically in Munich. We know
Angela Merkel's decision to invite 1 million refugees into the country
has been politically, one might say, controversial. Others would describe
it as a toxic environment. One in which people have been fearing the
worst? Well, Munich was... The city in Germany where most of the
refugees poured into the country, last year. Most of the pictures that
made their way around the world of German helpers welcoming refugees
were actually filmed in Munich. There is a reason we call Munich the
city of hearts in Germany. It is quite possible that this
reputation that the city holds is something that a jihadist cell would
like to attack and undermine. It is also quite clear that if this turns
out to be a jihadist attack, it will change public and political debate
in Germany quite profoundly. But, again, we do not know yet, we will
have to wait. I appreciate you are repeatedly stressing that. It can't
be reiterated often enough. Let's just contemplate, momentarily, the
opposite possibility. The possibility that it is perhaps
somebody inspired by the anti-Islamist, anti-refugee feeling.
That there has been an upsurge in that sentiment in Germany as well.
They're absolutely has been. But it hasn't taken on terrorist forms yet.
That would be something completely new as well. We have to be reminded
that today is the fifth anniversary of the Anders Breivik attack and
jihadists think in dates like this. We did not know if right-wing
terrorists do, maybe they will and have started today the is another
option. That we are talking about a disturbed individual. Dutchman there
is another. The footage that was already alluded to in your report,
the footage that was shot most likely at the very beginning of this
whole attack was a very confusing dialogue with an onlooker. I think
it may point towards an attacker with mental issues. That is a third
option. At this point we have no indication of a political background
but we just don't have it. The terror level, presumably, has been
at the highest possible since that type in Wurzburg? -- that attack.
All of Germany has been in high alert. That is properly why the
police in Munich was able to react in the way they did, which is
commendable. Including that use of social media. Thank you.
To America now, where Emily Maitlis has spent much of this week watching
the Republican party formally endorse Donald Trump's
It has been, it's fair to say, a most unconventional Convention.
It was an angry speech here in Cleveland last night,
from a man laying out a quasi-apocalyptic vision of the
country America had become, the violence, the terrorism, the
low-paid jobs and the lack of self-esteem.
He called himself the candidate of law and order.
He invoked some of Nixon's 1968 campaign against that
There were great cheers, every time he mentioned blue lives.
He thanked the police to loud applause when, at one point, they
bundled out a protest, trying to interrupted him.
He had an enthusiasm in his voice for
something not a million miles away from a police state.
What this was not, though, was a traditional Republican
There was no mention of abortion or gun rights.
Or of the Constitution or of amendments.
He, at one point, even tiptoed on LGBT issues to the
surprise, perhaps shock of many in the hall.
No, this is a man who knows he's turned his own party upside
down and now wants to make a pitch invasion on the Democrat's party.
The stage was set for a night Stars Stripes American optimism. But the
American nightmare is replaced in American dream. Libya is in ruins,
and our ambassador and his staff were left helpless to die at the
hands of savage killers. This is the legacy of Hillary Clinton - death,
destruction, terrorism and weakness. He told them, shouting at times, the
solution was forced, blocking migrants, restoring law and order,
and this old favourite, the war. -- the wall.
He is a military man when he is talking about building a wall. What
is the matter with building a wall? I visited the Vatican and it has a
wall around it. Why? This speech sought not to reassure but to anger.
He also appealed to Bernie Sanders supporters worried about losing
their jobs overseas. I don't want to diminish our freedom and
independence. We will never, ever sign bad trade deals. America,
first, again. America first! I am sure they will listen to his speech
with interest and make a judgment on it. It is hard to reconcile a speech
on law and order and immigration with Bernie Sanders supporters. All
those Bernie Sanders supporters were not socialists. Many were just
people who were angry with what was going on. The most memorable slogans
have been the ones aimed at Clinton. Last night, Donald Trump
reached above the name-calling to insist
to the crowd, let's beat her. I think Americans know the choice
is between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump
and they will go with Donald Trump. They want somebody who can
shake up Washington. And Washington, this time,
means another Clinton. The baton passes to Philadelphia,
next week, when their presidential candidate has to turn her own
convention into something I am joined by the former speech
writer for George W Bush, and from Los Angeles by Charlotte laws.
Peter, I will begin with you, if I may. It is traditionally quite a
cheerful occasion, the convention, not necessarily an adjective you
would apply to the last few days. That's right. This was the longest
and darkest convention speech we have ever seen. The America that
Donald Trump was describing was dystopian - dark, dreary, broken and
bleeding, almost beyond repair. It was quite extraordinary. It fits his
personality, and I think his premises that things are so -- his
premise is that things are so bleak that only Donald Trump can fix what
is wrong with America. He is incapable of fixing the problems we
have, but I think his description of America is so out of touch with
America that it won't work. There are problems in the country, but
they are discreet and they can be solved. Hillary Clinton and the
Democrats will drive a truck through the holes he left in the Cleveland
speech. Why was your role was not their? Because Donald Trump is
antithetical to a lot of what George W Bush believed in. It is
antithetical to a lot of what Ronald Reagan believed in. He is not a
conservative, hardly even a Republican, and he is redefining the
party in ways that a lot of us think of as dangerous and pernicious. He
is a threat to the Republican Party, and I think that was clear from his
speech, but it has been clear from what he has been saying and how he
has been conducting himself. We have never seen anything like him, and I
hope we don't again. Charlotte, you are shaking your head. Do you
recognise this description of America as being cowed and close to
dystopia? Absolutely. People in this country, many of them, believe that
Donald Trump is talking about the situation as it is. People are
fearful and realise there is a gap between the rich and poor, they
realise corporations are in control and the elite. He is an outsider. We
are happy that the Bush family did not speech at the convention,
because that would have made it an establishment convention. His speech
was a balance between toughness and compassion. I don't agree that it
was all dark and dreary. It was inspirational, and if you look at
the end section, you will see how it was inspirational and how he got the
crowd revved up, so I don't agree with that description. Never is one
person who agrees with your analysis. I think he used the word
overjoyed to describe it, the leader of the Ku Klux Klan. What does he
see an Donald Trump that feels his heart with joy? He released a
statement along the lines of, I am happy with Donald Trump for
championing my causes. I am not sure that David Duke supports Donald
Trump. I believe he supports Hillary Clinton. It is unfair to make that
comment. He is running for the Senate, and he said yesterday that
he was overjoyed to see Donald Trump championing the causes that he has
spent his whole life pursuing. It is unequivocal. I wonder what you think
he sees in Donald Trump that appeals to a textbook white supremacist will
stop I am part of the animal rights community in Los Angeles, and most
of the ones that I know support Donald Trump. I understand that, but
I am more interested in what this man sees in Donald Trump. Why is he
overjoyed? I have no idea, but I know a lot of people who are
overjoyed by Trump who are on the left. You might want to ask the same
question about them. I think it is an unfair question, because you are
singling out one person who likes Trump when there are lots of people,
liberals and Bernie Sanders supporters, who support Trump. It is
unfair to try to equate Trump with racism. I wonder why he appeals to
such a prominent racist, but if you don't know, that's fine. Peter, when
we hear that the Bernie Sanders contingent will be crucial to Mr
Trump's chances of moving beyond the base, what buttons will he be trying
to push among the non-traditional Republican voters? Trade, the button
he pushed all night and the button he has been pushing since he got
into the campaign. His bet is that by being a protectionist, and is he
-- and he is as fierce a protectionist as we are likely to
see, that is what he thinks is his way into those photos. The Sanders
voters are really at odds with him. They find Mr Trump repellent. Who
will you vote for? I don't know yet. I won't vote for Mr Trump under any
conditions, for the reasons I sketched out. I think he is
dangerous, erratic, unstable. I think he has a personality disorder,
and I think he is unprincipled and would be a threat to the country. I
think he is also a threat to the Republican Party. Both are things
that I care about, the country and the party. I am not inclined to vote
for Mrs Clinton because I am a conservative and she is a liberal.
She stands for everything I have stood against in my life. That would
be a difficult vote. I may not vote. I will have to see. I will cross
that bridge when the 7th of November comes around, the day before the
election. I am quite certain I will not vote for Donald Trump. There is
a third point of this triangle, albeit a less prominent one. Gary
Johnson, the Libertarian candidate. Jeb Bush, your former boss's
brother, might support him. I am not a libertarian, I am a Conservative.
I have some sympathy for libertarian views, but not a lot. There is a big
difference between being a Conservative and a libertarian. My
inclination is I will probably vote for someone else on the right. Ben
Sass is a senator from Nebraska, very principled and intelligent. He
has been a critic of Trump, and very principled about that. We will see.
My vote will not make a difference, but you know, people do, as Ted Cruz
said, have to vote with their conscience. Charlotte, I think we
know how you will cast your vote. Many thanks for your time this
evening, and to Peter. Back in Britain.
He was one of the big beasts of Brexit but,
with victory secured, Iain Duncan Smith has found himself
banished to the back benches by Theresa May.
A month on from the referendum result, today seemed an opportune
moment to find out what the former Work and Pensions Secretary
So when I interviewed him earlier today I began by asking
whether he was disappointed he was less front and centre
than Boris Johnson and Michael Gove when the results of
In my view, it's always been on this, 24 years ago, when I voted
against Maastricht I actually was not for the UK
leaving the European Union, I believed it
Over the years, as I've seen more treaties go through, I
The main point I would make about this
I was involved a lot in the debate and I
don't have any personal prejudice in terms of wanting myself to be front
and centre on this, never had really.
I know you have spoken about the ?350 million pledge that wasn't
There are a few other areas where perhaps people might
Well, to be fair, you could probably argue
both sides of the case there were lots of different types of stories.
There was a wonderful story how all families would be ?4,300
The point is, on balance, I don't think people actually made
their decision on elements like that.
I think what they made their
decision on was, on the basis, did they feel instinctively
that the UK was better off out for them.
Are you more comfortable today about the fact
that the country is being controlled by a Remainer?
We are a Conservative Government, we had four more years to run...
You were pretty clear that you wanted a Brexiteer in the big job.
I wanted to leave but that slightly went south
when Mr Gove and Mr Johnson didn't quite get their act together.
I was public in saying that I thought if they were together,
My sense about this, though, is that Theresa May,
I have known her for a long time, I have worked with her in
Cabinet, I know if she gives her word on something, she will keep it.
They will get on with it now and we will
I sense, and perhaps I'm wrong, you would be
rather more keen to be involved in these processes and negotiations.
Yes I am, as a member of Parliament, I have a view and I will make that
By the way, I don't regret that I'm not in government,
I resigned back in March, for different reasons.
I was in no hurry to get back in government.
I've got a lot I want to get on with.
I'm going back to the Centre for Social
Justice and I want to get on with other things,
David Davis has got your job, hasn't he?
I wish him the best of luck. I'm an old friend of David's.
Liam Fox? No, no.
You have to acknowledge that had your candidate for the
leadership, Andrea Leadsom, succeded, you would have
expected to be at the top table?
Even so, I wasn't really asking for a job.
My point was I wanted to get the right people in place.
Is Boris Johnson the right person to be Foreign Secretary?
Now you have a very different setup, because
The European stuff is now in another department
and the trade stuff is carved off into a Trade Department,
All of that means that Boris has a job to
do, to tell the world, this is an important factor,
to tell the world that actually, Britain is open for
business and Britain is a country that has always managed through
difficult times and good times and will continue to do so.
Actually, the funny thing about Boris, he is
pretty good at doing that kind of stuff.
To steer you back to the new Prime Minister and the notion of
mandate and the notion of wanting, by your own admission,
a Brexit leader and not getting one, does she have a mandate
She has stood for an election to lead the Conservative Party and
the leader of the Conservative Party de facto has a right to claim
The country has asked that Britain leaves the European Union.
She has said we will now act on that.
It is a very simple statement and a very simple
comment from her that she is going to do that.
Any sympathy for Messrs Cameron and Osborne?
It's a tough job being in government.
It's particular tough being Prime Minister.
I've worked very closely with the Prime Minister for six years.
You weren't so close to the Chancellor, were you?
We didn't always see eye to eye, to be fair.
At the end, we had a chain of disagreements,
which culminated in my resigning from the government.
Have you spoken to either of them since resigning?
I have, since then. Which one?
I wouldn't say they were hugely long conversations,
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