26/07/2016 Newsnight

IS reaches into rural France to deliver yet

another act of barbarism, this time inside a church.

President Hollande says the threat to France has never been so severe,

while the people of the small Normandy town struggle to absorb

TRANSLATION: He was a simple man, he was always at people's service.

He could have taken a quiet retirement but he preferred to stay

active as long as he was in good health.

He preferred to stay active and serve his parish.

I am in Ansbach in Bavaria where a Syrian refugee claiming to act on

behalf of Islamic State blew himself up at the weekend.

But how much can the state do to protect its citizens,

and at the same time preserve freedom?

Tonight, Bernie Sanders offers emphatic support to Clinton but do

his actions match his words? We ask how Hillary can take the message to

the country when she remains unpopular with so many.

She recognises how sharply divided the party is now

She would promote Bernie Sanders to be nominated from the floor

If you had a Clinton-Sanders ticket, I think

that would do a lot to heal the party.

Also tonight, what happens when interests plummet to less than zero?

We've already seen in Japan and Germany the sale

What would that mean to the confidence of the banking

system if people started leaving their money in safes,

A new horror was visited on France today when two terrorists,

claimed by IS, entered a church in a small town

in Normandy during Mass and murdered an 84-year-old priest

and critically injured one of the three worshippers before

being killed by French police outside the church.

One of the attackers was under close surveillance, on probation,

and wearing an electronic tag after two failed attempts

President Hollande, who arrived swiftly at the scene,

said it was one more sign that France was at war with

It's another act of barbarism so soon after the Nice massacre

and in Germany, the vicious attacks in Wuerzburg

and Ansbach, all brutal, unsophisticated attacks designed

The premier of Bavaria said officials had to do whatever

was necessary to protect citizens, and the French President

says we must protect citizens "by all means."

But what are the limits of the state in modern democracies?

We'll be discussing that in a moment, and reporting

from Bavaria, but first, Secunder Karmani is in the small

For those in Rouen Cathedral attending a Mass in honour

of Father Jacques Hamel, there must have been

Yet another IS-related attack in France.

If young people were targeted in Paris, families in Nice,

today's victim, an 84-year-old old priest, represented yet another

The priest who normally works in the church that was attacked

said the murdered man was only there as he was away on holiday.

TRANSLATION: I've spoken to a few people, notably some of the sisters

I don't know how we are going to get through the next few hours.

He was a simple man, always at people's service.

He was 85 and could have taken a quiet retirement but he preferred

to stay active as long as he was in good health.

He preferred to stay active and serve his parish.

The two attackers burst into this church this morning,

taking the priest and a handful of nuns and parishioners prisoner.

They slit the throat of the priest and recorded it on camera.

One of the nuns, speaking to French media, described what she saw.

Both attackers were killed quickly by police as they emerged

from the church, but there will be questions for the security services.

French authorities have already faced severe criticism

A damning report about security failings in the lead up

to the Paris attacks, an alleged lack of police on duty

in Nice and today it has emerged that at least one of the attackers

who struck here was very much on the authorities' radar.

Having tried and failed to get to Syria, he was on a curfew

At the Cathedral today, some felt there was little that

could ever be done to protect such soft targets.

Nobody thought it would ever be attacked so, yes,

you see the army in the street every day, in small groups, but you can't

But amongst some in France there is real anger at the continuing

Prime Minister Manuel Valls was booed as he attended a minute's

silence for the victims in Nice two weeks ago.

He had suggested that terrorism was becoming a modern reality France

As always after an attack, there are prayers for the dead

Could more have been done to prevent the bloodshed?

Were those responsible directed by IS or just inspired by them?

Perhaps the biggest question in France right now is how on earth

does the country stop what appears to be an almost relentless

TRANSLATION: We are attached to the bitty but in situations like this

people who have nothing to hide have nothing to worry about. You can't

say this is a risk. The state has to take all the Ms is possible to bring

back security and protect citizens two all the measures possible. --

all the measures possible. Following the attacks in Paris

in November there were over 3500 raids as part of the state

of emergency that was imposed. They were criticised by some

for being too harsh. And there are some calls

for the authorities not to go TRANSLATION: The response to

violence is never violence, the response must be reasoned, we need

to think long-term and understand people's motivations. Right now we

are completely out of our depth. This afternoon, one person

was arrested in connection One of the victims is

still in hospital. But the French president has

had to visit the scene He said that IS had

declared war on France. Now the pressure on him

to respond is growing. What is the latest on the

investigation? In the last few hours, the French public prosecutor

has been talking and the authorities have formally identified one of the

two attackers as a 19-year-old man who lived close to the scene of the

attack, Adel Kermiche and he was well-known to the authorities,

having been arrested on two occasions trying to get to Syria. He

spent some time in jail here and was released with an electronic tag and

he is also a kind of terrorism watchlist which thousands of people

are on. There will be questions about the level of surveillance he

was on as part of being on the list. One imagines over the next few days

there will be calls for tougher treatment of the people on the list,

even though many of them have never been convicted of any crime and that

gets to the heart of the dilemma that France and much of Europe is

in, where you draw the boundary between security and liberty.

Another thing to add about the investigation, a key line that the

authorities will try and pursue, were the attackers linked directly

to people in Syria? There are reports that Adel Kermiche was close

friends with a particularly well-known French jihadi from this

region who went to Syria and appeared in a number of videos. We

will seek if he inspired this attack. We know that the attackers

filmed the murder that they committed. Thank you for joining us.

The Normany murder follows closely on from a spate of attacks

in the last eight days in Germany which have left 15 people dead,

including four attackers, and dozens injured.

German officials say two attackers had links

Bavaria's state premier, a long-standing critic

of Angela Merkel's open door refugee policy, said it was time to up

It was in Bavaria, on Sunday, in Ansbach, that a suicide bombing

near a music festival wounded 15 people.

What more do we know? Well, we are learning, on the official Islamic

State weekly newspaper this evening they are making some very

interesting claims about the man, named as Mohammad D, who blew

himself up just behind me. They say that he was a member of Al-Qaeda in

Iraq as far back as 2011 and that he fought with various Jihadist groups

on the front lines around Aleppo, that he was wounded and sought

treatment in Europe and that there was direct communication with him in

the days running up to the attack. There was a lot of scepticism about

that here on the streets of Ansbach Forster people pointing to the fact

that he sought treatment for mental health issues, that he had

apparently twice tried to take his own life previously. At least two

people I spoke to said that he didn't seem very religious, they saw

him at the mosque only once even though he lived here for two years

and he didn't observe Ramadan. But he was about to be deported when he

blew himself up and he left a message pledging himself to the

leader of Islamic State. We know that the Bavarian premier has been

speaking but what is the mood in Germany? Up until last week, Germany

had largely escaped the kind of scenes that we've heard about in

France and scene in Ofgem, the kind of scenes we saw in Britain on July

seven, even though they have taken in more than 1 million refugees.

Things have been calm. Four attacks has changed that a lot -- and in

Belgium. The attacks may not be connected to any jihad, one may be

linked to the far right but that is falling to the wayside in the public

awareness. The kind of welcoming culture we saw with such

extraordinary scenes last summer with people carrying water and food

for the incoming refugees, that seems to be changing. Angela

Merkel's popularity ratings are falling, under pressure from members

of her own coalition who say that the open borders policy must stop.

Thank you for joining us. IS was quick to claim

today's attack in France. Are the recent attacks a coordinated

series aimed at destabilising the fabric of Western society

or random acts of extreme violence? Is this the start of some awful

new chapter of political violence You don't have to delve very deep

to see that killers using knives, axes or vehicles are extremely hard

to detect ahead of time, But some of these acts,

at least, are part of a new wave It's different to the threat we sort

of previously experienced with Al-Qaeda, precisely

because the strategy has changed, the move towards low-grade terrorism

insofar as it is not sophisticated, so everyday, ordinary objects,

a car, all these sorts of things are being used now to kill people

in politically symbolic ways that still affects us and resonates very

profoundly with our societies, but it's materially different

to something like the scale and sophistication of September

11th, the Madrid bombings, or 7/7. Faced with this threat,

police called to the scene, as today, have to take decisions

immediately with a high probability Well, certainly, what we've seen,

not just in France and Germany, but in events that have

taken place elsewhere, so for example in Ottawa

and in Sydney, is a terrorist threat that manifests itself with the aim

that the assailants are not planning And therefore what the police need

to do is to assess very quickly the threat that is posed,

the risks that are there, and to select the appropriate

tactical option, which more often than not in cases of late requires

a very swift response IS has claimed today's attack,

but is that just a cynical ploy? Some recent claims, like Nice,

have taken more than 24 hours, leading some to suppose that

Islamic State is simply taking But in several instances,

there have been signs We don't live in a police state,

thankfully, and there isn't a policeman on every single corner

keeping tabs on every single Nevertheless, the measures

that we do have in the United Kingdom are such to keep

abreast of what's taking place in order to allocate resources

at the correct time to threats Does that mean that every single

incident can be prevented? The aspiration is to aim for that,

that is what the security services want to achieve,

but it can't necessarily Addressing France tonight,

President Hollande told a nation shocked by recent events

just how much was at stake. We the French people,

let us make a block. That is how we will win the war

against hatred and fanaticism. And I assure you,

we will win this war. Long live the Republic,

long live France. With the ongoing wave of violence,

President Hollande has seen the far right surge in the polls

and his own ratings slump. And as it carries on,

there is a very real possibility that the government might be changed

in France, or even Germany, by this wave of Islamic State

inspired violence - something their supporters

could regard as a major coup. With further raids under way in that

France tonight, those involved in counterterrorism expect

a long and difficult summer. With me now is Shami Chakrabarti,

the former director of Liberty a former director of global

counter-terrorism for MI6. There can be no softer target than a

church with a priest, two nuns and other worshippers. This series of

soft targets in France and now in Germany, IS will use these to

destabilise, whether aren't they were the instigators. Absolutely, IS

will take advantage of anything that happens, and of course our own

reaction is to assume that it is IS as well, because they have been

quite successful at that. When you think of the soft target in any

country, or any country that might be the target of IS, it is very hard

to know what you should do to protect them. The contract between

the state and the citizen is that the state will try to keep the

Citizen safe while giving them freedoms, but as Sarkozy was saying,

is that possible when the enemy has no taboos, no limits, no borders?

Are we going to have to change the way we look at security? I would say

quite the reverse, because the whole point of IS is to undermine the

cohesion of society, to a road human rights and the observance of human

rights and so on, and to make people feel that they are being

discriminated against and that the governments they live and not doing

a good job of looking out the them. So I think, actually, as was said

famously after the Anders Breivik attacks, what we need is more

democracy, not less. When people are murdered, we do not expect the state

to stop every murder, but do we expect the state to stop every act

of terrorism? Or is Manuel Valls right, you have to live with it?

Well, we all live with risk in our lives, but Richard is so right, the

point about terrorism is that it provokes to get a reaction, so if

for example Angela Merkel had been a stabilising influence on the

continent of Europe, then that has to be undermined. Now, we have seen

so many horrors in recent times, including, by the way, the murder of

an MP on our own streets, and I suspect that if the alleged

perpetrator had been of a different race, we would have been discussing

whether that could have been claimed by them. What I suspect is going on,

of course, some of these incidents are orchestrated, some are inspired,

and some are claimed after the event, regardless of what happened.

And in a sense, we have to deal with risk, we have to deal with our own

fears, and we have to make sure we do not close down our society,

because that is, I hate to keep saying this, that is what IS wants.

But we do expect the state to have a certain degree of surveillance, a

certain degree of security. As we know, after the Paris attacks,

thousands were interviewed, and we know there was a failure of security

today because one of the attackers had and Alec Trellick Tower on. One

of the attackers had an electronic target, and that raises a question

too about how many people you can put under total surveillance at

anyone time. One of the things I suspect we have in common is that

this idea of the wrist freezers I'd eat this the enemy of this book and

the civil liberties Aryan. -- the risk free society is the enemy of

the spook and the civil libertarian. But we expect our security servers

to deliver for us, and there has to be a curtailing of certain freedoms.

Well, I am not sure, you know, that has to be put to the public test, as

to how much freedom they would like curtailed, but you are right, the

problem of looking at everybody who could possibly be a future

perpetrator of a terrorist crime is amazing. In-lap Roz, for example,

300 people who have come back from Iraq, Syria, another 800 have been

stopped, that is already 1100 people. -- in France. We have to

keep these things in proportion. We have an idea that we can completely

eliminate the threat from terrorism, but we do not regard any other crime

in that way. But does behaviour have to change? I mean, the behaviours of

children in schools,, you know, duck and cover for the nuclear threat, do

we have to be more aware of terrorism? I do not think it is

about dark and cover, but we need to reflect, we had an opportunity after

9/11 and again after 7/7, and now we have a similar opportunity in France

and Germany, and I hope they go the way that Norway went after Breivik.

Yes, we need a mortgage and society, but we need a stronger civil

society, we need a vigil is in communities. But how do you maintain

a cohesive society? We know things are changing in Germany, even in the

last the weeks, as you know, Gabriel Gatehouse was saying, the wonderful

welcome that refugees had. How do keep society cohesive when there is

a lot of division? Well, as he said, over 1 million refugees now in

Germany, how many refugees have been arrested on terrorism charges? I

should imagine less than five, a tiny percentage. So we are

extrapolated from this security threat into, you know, anxiety about

immigrants. If I was Isis, I would be thinking about positively

undermining Angela Merkel's policy on refugees right now, because it is

about alienation and injustice, and that is how you recruit terrorists.

I just want to change the subject, because there were reports that you

had refused a peerage. Rather than asking that, is there a peerage in

the offing? That is being discussed, a Labour peerage. I don't know, are

you going to take onto my I haven't been offered one, have you? Many

times! Thank you very much indeed. The Democrat Convention

in the City of Brotherly Love Last night, Michelle Obama raised

the roof in Philadelphia with a passionate speech in praise

of Hillary Clinton, and later tonight, Bill Clinton

will take to the stage. But there's a lot of unease

about poor poll showings and the convention

has had a rocky start. All that is true, but tonight

America stands on the edge of history, a major political party is

about to another date a woman for president for the first time ever.

The roll call going on behind me, noisy and emotional, as the states

and the delegates take their turn one by one. Well, the Pap for

Hillary Clinton has been far from smooth. As you said, last night

Democratic rival Bernie Sanders took to the stage to endorse her,

wholeheartedly, and to ask his supporters to do the same. But it is

a problem that stands, do his actions actually belie his words?

And how does a character so divisive and so unpopular as Hillary Clinton,

going into this Convention on favourability ratings of minus 22,

bring her country round? # You must rejoice,

there is no choice The Late Show at convention

is virtually required viewing Stephen Colbert channelling

the hipster Sandista Death, taxes and Hillary -

she's made to seem inevitable. And inevitability, as we all know,

is rarely that sexy. And Tim Kaine!

LAUGHTER. Hillary Clinton will make

an outstanding president, and I am proud to stand

with her tonight! gave the strongest endorsement

he could of Clinton. A confused response from the hall,

though - some cheers, some boos,

and chanting. And the Hillary campaign team,

led by John Podesta, who was also her husband

Bill Clinton's chief of staff, The really big problem

for the party is the unpopularity

of both main candidates now, Look, I think we are

going to work, and this convention will succeed

in putting forward not only a platform

and a set of ideas but show Hillary Clinton

and Tim Kaine as people who've devoted their life to helping

working people, to lifting them up, and we'll see a lot of that

through the voices of real people Others, like former presidential

candidate Dennis Kucinich, called for more radical action

from her Hillary Clinton, if she

recognised how sharply divided the party is right now

because of the DNC scandal, she would permit Bernie Sanders

to be nominated from the floor If you had a Clinton-Sanders

ticket, I think that would do a lot to heal the party and give it

a strong chance in November. You're actually saying

she should get rid of Kaine now. Not get rid of him, no, it's not

about getting rid of anybody. It's about realising

that something happened here that is profoundly adverse

to what the Democratic Party is supposed to believe in,

and so how do you heal that? You can't just let it stand,

it's got to be addressed, and the easiest way to address it

is to say, and the one way to do that is to

say, "Bernie, come on board." Despite emphatic words of support

from Bernie Sanders last night, here is the curious thing -

the Vermont Senator has never officially

suspended his own campaign, and this morning he announced he

wouldn't be fundraising for Clinton, telling his supporters

the political revolution goes on. And one of those opening the

convention here onstage explains it, telling me this is essentially

the first time the Hillary-Sanders

campaigns have met. as two campaigns

who have fought each other. We'll go out of here as one

effort to defeat Donald Trump and hold on to the White House

this fall. Are you sure?

Oh, absolutely, absolutely. First of all, the majority

of our folks are already there, and the rest, every day, are coming

to understand just how quickly we've been moving this party

in a progressive direction. A month ago, we had

a milquetoast platform. Today, we have the most progressive

in the party's history. It's because of the work

of our revolution. This is a weird cocoon,

he explains - "We come in one animal,

we go out another" - every breath Hillary Clinton

has to spend uniting her own party is one lost talking

to the swing voters she so desperately needs

to win over. Well, Hillary Clinton need that

magic number to cross the line. In the last few moments, we have just

had the nomination from the oldest delegate, 102-year-old woman from

Arizona, older than the suffrage movement itself. One of her closest

confidants, who has known her for three decades, and her husband, is

the Virginia governor Terry McAuliffe. He will be nominating her

public on the stage in a moment. Just before we came on air, I spoke

to him. Did Bernie Sanders

do enough last night I think Bernie Sanders did more

than anyone expected. He made it clear

why he was in the race, and then at the end he said,

"This is why we have to elect Hillary Clinton

as the next president." So you had Michelle Obama,

you had Elizabeth Warren, and then you, of course,

had Senator Sanders. Yesterday, the Sanders folks,

listen, they worked hard, I chaired Hillary's last campaign

for president, They wanted to vent yesterday,

they did that. Now we begin, we nominate her,

we go on as one party. But do his actions

support his words? He said today he wouldn't be

fundraising for her. Well, that is OK, we don't

need him to do fundraising. If he wants to help,

it would be great, but he sent a text to

everybody yesterday, he has told everybody, "Get in line,

this is the right thing to do, we got to stop Donald Trump,

we got to elect Hillary President." So, listen, this is hard,

they came in close. As I said, I did it for Hillary,

it is not easy, but this is the Democratic Party,

we like to have our issues and discuss them, but now is the

time, we move forward tonight. When we nominate her, and I'm proud,

I get to walk on stage and announce the first female

nominee in the history of the American political system,

I'm pretty fired up. And you know how hard

it is to sell her popularity around the country, why is that,

and what has to happen now? I think the most important thing

is we got to have a great convention,

I thought yesterday was great. We obviously have Bill Clinton

tonight, the President and Vice President tomorrow night,

and then of course Hillary's speech and Tim Kaine's speech

on Wednesday night. I think, once we finish

this convention, everybody is going to know

why we are running. what I thought was an embarrassment

last week... I'm the ultimate optimist,

but we had four days of tearing down America, America's

miserable, America's losing. We're not, we're the

greatest nation on earth. Can we be better?

You bet we can! But people want to be uplifted,

they won't hope. You got to compete on a global

basis, not be a bunch of negative whiners,

you want someone who is Do we have to see

a different Hillary coming out of this

convention, though? Does she need to be a different

person going forward? she is the same Hillary that I have

known for 36 years. You know, I talk about the times

on vacation with her, playing with my kids in the pool

I love Hillary Clinton, and you're going to see

the Hillary Clinton Compassionate, I know her soul,

she cares about people, she cares about children,

and that's who she is. And you've worked very closely,

of course, with Bill Clinton. Do you believe that he has been

a help or a hindrance in terms of bringing on

the women's vote? and I think tonight his speech

will be spectacular. He's been campaigning

all over the country, it's his wife who is going to be

the next president, But I remind you, when

Bill Clinton left office, he left with the second

highest approval, of any second-term president

in the history of America. Lots of jobs, things were great,

peace around the world. As I mentioned, Bill Clinton will be

speaking on the stage tonight. When I interviewed the former president

18 months ago, he confided to me that Hillary Clinton had supported

his political career the 26 years and now he's prepared to do the same

for her. Back to you. We will wait for the Clinton speech.

We are all used to getting letters from our banks advising us

of changes in terms and conditions, but in a new departure

almost a million NatWest business customers have received the news

that the bank may have to levy charges for deposits,

in other words, impose a negative rate of interest.

So why the warning, and what impact is it designed to have?

Here's our business editor, Helen Thomas.

Through the looking glass, Alice found that normal

was turned turned inside out, back to front and upside down.

Negative interest rates are confronting banks

with their own muddled, mixed-up version of reality.

We take it for granted - put your money in the bank,

and it will be kept safe for when you need it.

If you're lucky, you'll earn some interest

and get back a little more than you put in.

But in a world of negative rates, that isn't necessarily the case.

Banks might instead charge you for storing your money with them.

The UK hasn't entered Wonderland - the Bank of England's key interest

rate has been stuck at 0.5% for over seven years.

But with the central bank expected to cut rates further next month,

the weird and wonderful world of negative rates

Royal Bank of Scotland has given a glimpse

of this alternative financial reality.

This message was buried in a new set of terms and conditions

a warning that it could charge them interest on their account balances.

to impose negative rates on its customers.

But around the world, countries like Japan have already

cut interest rates into negative territory, and in the eurozone,

Denmark, Sweden or Switzerland, banks are effectively being charged

to keep their excess funds at the central bank.

The theory is that this gets banks interested in lending more

and pushes borrowing costs lower to help the economy.

Banks are wary of passing on the costs of negative rates

The first one is whether savers would need to save

just at the time when the economy needs spending instead of support.

And secondly, whether depositors start to lose a bit of confidence

in the banking system and actually take it out.

We've already seen, in Japan and Germany,

that the sale of safes have shot up, and what would that mean

to the confidence in the banking system if people started

to leave their money in safes rather than the bank?

Nervous savers aside, negative rates end up

squeezing banks' profits, and that could mean

less lending, not more - a bad outcome for the economy.

I think that negative rates could be a dangerous experiment.

We simply don't know how they work for any prolonged period of time.

One reason for them is to try to make the cost of funding cheaper,

but actually the examples of Sweden and Denmark

show that banks put up their prices to offset the negative rates,

the exact opposite of what policymakers want.

That is why Bank of England Governor Mark Carney has suggested

that negative rates could do more harm than good.

He warned the hit to bank profitability could, perversely,

reduce credit availability or even increase its overall price.

for ever more fantastical ways to boost economies.

Negative interest rates, however, may not be all that they appear.

Amongst the uncertainties of a post-Brexit Britain,

the future of scientific research is critical,

says one of the country's most senior scientists,

the president of the Royal Society, Sir Venki Ramakrishnan.

The Nobel Prize winner has told Newsnight that he wants

the government to underwrite research funding for scientists

who are applying for EU money right now.

He's also concerned that some of the best scientific talent here

following disillusionment among researchers after the vote.

When I interviewed him earlier, I began by asking him which

side of the EU referendum debate the scientific community fell on.

Science is fundamentally international in nature,

so I think science has always been dependent on the free flow

of people and ideas, and so we were passionately for the EU,

because anything that lowers the barrier to mobility

And I was of the opinion that the Government should simply

say that EU researchers who are already based in Britain

should simply be allowed to stay, without any sort of conditions.

And I thought this would be, you know, perfectly obvious,

and, you know, it would also force the EU's hand, because, you know,

I don't see what else they could do except to respond similarly.

What might be the impact of Brexit on future funding,

If we are perceived as an inward-looking country

that is not so welcoming to the outside world,

and that is the impression that some people have got, then

We are in a global market for talent, and we need to attract

On the other hand, if it's suggested that Brexit is a desire on the part

of the majority of the British to simply take control

over their laws, but not actually be against immigration as such, then,

you know, we have to look to see how we make immigration easy,

and we also have to make sure that we continue our collaborations

Are you already hearing doubts from people that believe they may

not get the European funding they need?

People are naturally worried about this, you know,

sudden loss of funding, which would be the sort of thing

that would make us much less competitive.

And I should say, it's not just the funding alone.

Most scientists would prefer that funding to be through the EU

so that we can be part of these EU networks and large-scale

collaborations, because that allows the UK to influence large-scale

Because we are one of the leaders in science in Europe,

and if we are isolated, then we won't be able

But given the strictures at the moment on the economy,

what are the chances of getting that money out of the Government?

If Britain wants to succeed on its own, outside the EU, it can

only do so by being an advanced innovation-based, knowledge-based

society, and so there really isn't any alternative to science funding,

and if you cut science funding when times are bad,

then it takes a very, very long time to restore science,

because scientists leave, and then it takes a decade to train

And so it is very bad value for money to cut science.

But wouldn't we just replace EU funding with global funding

that perhaps now we have not sought hard enough?

Over the last 20 or 30 years, because we were part of the EU,

we have built up connections, networks, collaborations

Now, to reproduce those sorts of things elsewhere, first of all,

the structures have to exist for those sorts of funding,

and secondly, you know, would have to build up networks,

Did the scientists not shout loud enough during the campaign?

I think a lot of scientists did shout out loud enough,

but I don't think this referendum was decided based on

In fact, I would venture to guess that it made absolutely no

difference to the people who voted to leave.

They were concerned more about things like immigration,

The question we have to ask is, why did we not,

over three generations, or at least two generations,

inculcate in, you know, our population a feeling

that we are actually all European and not...

I mean, we are perfectly willing to accept that we are both English

and British, but, you know, when it comes to the next step,

English, British and European, you know, many of us

And I think that is really, to me, as someone who is a relative

outsider, who came here 16 years ago, that is something

You may remember USA Freedom Kids, the adorable pro-Trump

cheerleading group that charmed the world back in January

group that charmed the world back in January with their

Now, rather less charmingly, their manager, Mike Popick,

is planning to sue Team Trump for not paying him.

Anyway, we thought it was all a great excuse

If you woke up to sunshine this morning there's a good