27/07/2016 Newsnight


27/07/2016

Europe asks a Frenchman to negotiate Brexit. Owen Smith sets out his proposals for Labour. Donald Trump appears to incite Russia to hack Hillary Clinton's emails.


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You probably don't know him like they do, but you soon will.

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Michel Barnier is the new European Commission's enforcer

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Meanwhile, our new International Trade Secretary has already

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been rebuffed by Canada, and didn't fare much

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I'll be asking a former US Trade Representative what chance

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a quick trade deal with North America.

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Also tonight, Emily's in Philidelphia.

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As the Democrats Mark a historic milestone, Donald Trump calls on

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Russia about the missing e-mails. Is it a defining issue or is he trying

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to dominate her day? And Labour's internecine

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war goes on. Owen Smith, Jeremy Corbyn's

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challenger, woos the party's left. Ladies and gentlemen, Owen Smith.

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The public sector pay freeze would end. We'll be spending an extra 4%

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per annum on the NHS, and equality busting wealth tax.

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We've been to Burnley, where it's all too little, too late.

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I'll be asking Kate Green, who quit the Shadow Cabinet,

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They are showing themselves for what they are, which is just career.

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I'll be asking Kate Green, who quit the Shadow Cabinet,

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if the Smith pitch can reach beyond the membership to the voters.

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Today we had the first evidence that the EU isn't going to sit back

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and let Britain have the whip hand in the Brexit negotiations -

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The EU President, Jean Claude Juncker,

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politician for this difficult job," and Michel Barnier, the former

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French Foreign Minister, Agriculture Minister,

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and former EU Commisioner, who led the EU banking

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He starts his new job on October 1st, ahead of Britain formally

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notifying the EU of its intent to withdraw using the

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But should any deal fail even the final default position -

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resting on the WTO, the World Trade Organisation,

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Former Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg has told Newsnight

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that he fears that Britain could be at the mercy of unfriendly nations.

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Our political editor, Nick Watt, reports.

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As Europe heads off on its summer holidays, Theresa May has been

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on something of a charm offensive around the EU.

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But today, we started to get the first

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negotiations that will take us out of the European Union, the silver

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haired former French Foreign Minister, Michel Barnier, was

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appointed as the European Commission's chief Brexit

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This raised eyebrows in some circles.

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Like a lot of people of his generation and his

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ideological background in France, they feel like the crisis in 2008

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showed the limits of what they regard as excessive Anglo-Saxon

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It shows he will not be a pushover when it comes

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to the Brexit negotiations, not only for the City

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of London itself, but the UK economy as a whole.

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Others thought he would be more friendly to the UK. He does not

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dislike the Brits. He is a good-natured chap, easy going bust

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up in some ways he will be similar to David Davis, focusing on the big

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picture, ignoring the details are known what he wants at the start of

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the negotiation. The appointment showed there was something of a turf

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war in Brussels over who should take the lead in negotiating Brexit. The

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commission who appointed him believes it should be in charge of

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the negotiations in its role as EU Executive and guardian of the

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treaty. The European Council, representing European heads of state

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and government believes it should be in the lead. While they were

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jostling for position in Brussels, in the US, Liam Fox was putting

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flesh on the bones of the UK's Brexit plan. Britain would leave the

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EU customs union to allow it to negotiate free-trade deals across

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the world. Theresa May cautiously endorsed this plan, though she did

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make it clear she wants to keep her options open on British access to

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the separate EU single market. We need to ensure we get the best

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possible deal in relation to trade in goods and services. I am looking

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at this with an open mind. I think we should be developing a model that

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suits United Kingdom and the European Union. Not adopting a model

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that is on the shelf already but saying, what will work for the UK

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and what will work best for the European Union? Being in the customs

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union could stop you from negotiating the sort of free trail

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to use mooted by Liam Fox in the U S. -- free trade deals. Retaining

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access to the single market would avoid nontariff barriers. The

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unilateral imposition of regulations. No one has been allowed

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access to the single market without accepting free movement of people.

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One leading Brexiteer said the UK must leave both the customs union

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and the single market to respect the will of the British people. I am on

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the side of Liam Fox. I think we need to leave the customs union and

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the single market. We are more than capable of standing on our own two

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feet. We need to be able to make our own trade deals. That means out must

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mean out. One former EU trade ingratiating fears if the UK adopts

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hardball tactics it could face a hard Brexit, where we would fall

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back on World Trade Organisation rules. He believes a change in UK

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status could leave us at the mercy of unfriendly countries. Just to

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show how ferociously complex all of this series, if the United Kingdom

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to say they want to reset or change the terms of our commitments in the

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world trade system within the WTO, there are 126 other countries. The

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whole thing operates by consensus. One of which could basically block

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the UK's new commitments within the World Trade Organisation if we pull

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out of the EU. It is now working on a series of papers to highlight the

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challenge of negotiations. We are moving, I feel, from the initial

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panic, shock and surprise of the referendum decision to several weeks

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of almost phoney peace, almost denial, about the consequences of

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that decision. What we will move to after the holiday break and in

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September, October, November, when we get the resumption of the season,

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we will get into a lot of the nitty-gritty. The choice in the

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referendum had seemed so straightforward. Leave to take back

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control or remain to avoid economic risk. Making our way in the world

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now all seems a lot more complicated.

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I'm joined now in the studio by former Foreign Secretary

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Malcolm Rifkind and from Philadelphia by Miriam Sapiro, who

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served as a US Trade Representative and Director of European Affairs

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on the US National Security Council.

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Good evening to both of you. First of all, Malcolm Rifkind, let's talk

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about Michelle -- Michel Bernier. He was the Europe Minister for France

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when I was Foreign Secretary. He is a tough guy, European federalist by

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background. Being French he also has a strong protectionist streak. He's

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not keen on free trade and open borders. However, there is a very

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important however. The real decisions are not going to be taken

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either by him or by Liam Fox or David Davis. In our case, you'll be

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taken by the Cabinet committee, chaired by Theresa May. She will lay

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down and have more influence anyone else. In the European case, Angela

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Merkel, President Francois Hollande, they will have a comparable role.

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The commission does have the responsibility to find the right

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individual but I'm sure that will have been discussed with others as

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well. It is a marvellous parallels. Just as Theresa May decided it was

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good to have three hardline Brexiteers to argue from the UK

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point of view. They will have to compromise at some stage. From the

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EU ends, they are perhaps deliberately appointing a pretty

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strong European and sending a message by saying we're not going to

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be a soft touch but he will have to compromise as well. You also,

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extraordinarily, no Michel Bernier as well. What is your impression of

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him? That's right. We did some negotiations together. Both sides

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are no doubt trying to figure out how to portray the strongest

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possible positions. I do not think that will be adopted here. I hope

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they will each listen to the other side and tried to figure out a win -

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win scenario for the UK and the rest of the world. I know you are having

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to fight against the noise of the very excited democratic convention

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with Barack Obama coming soon. Maybe I will get you to put your

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microphone quite high up. You are also very much on Hillary Clinton's

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economic team if she were to become US president. What do you think the

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attitude would be to Britain? We know there has been an early rebus

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for Liam Fox. What is the attitude towards doing a deal with the UK,

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given that there is tough negotiations going on with the whole

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of the US at the moment? The secretary is so focused right now on

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the election. I do not know if you can hear me with the background

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noise. She is totally focused on the campaign and winning the election

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because the stakes are so high for the United States. We saw what brand

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recently with Brexit when many voters woke up the next morning and

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were not quite sure what was going on and what had happened. We are

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hoping that will not be the situation here and voters will pay

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attention now to what is at stake. You will remember that during the EU

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referendum campaign, Barack Obama was enlisted as it were up by David

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Cameron and came over to the UK and said, if there were a vote to leave,

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Britain would go to the back of a cube in terms of a trade deal. Is

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that just part of the US contribution to project fear? --

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back of the queue. I think he was pointing out the difficulties

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inherent with a vote to leave. He has been a strong Atlanticist, as

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has the secretary, when she served as his representative. I think he

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was honest in suggesting that the UK voters think twice about the

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importance of this decision. I think now that the decision has been made,

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and the Prime Minister has reiterated she is determined to see

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what she can do to ensure there will be a strong UK no matter what, I

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think it has changed in that there will have to be discussions between

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the US and the UK as to what their future trade relationship could look

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like. To think it could be a positive outcome for the UK in terms

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of trade relationship with the US? I do think so. The whole issue is

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terribly, but hated. It wouldn't be that hard to engage in -- envision a

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trade agreement win the US and the UK done relatively quickly given

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that both economies are already barely open. They both take an open

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perspective on the lies a. They both have a strong advantage in services.

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Malcolm Rifkind, it is all about the negotiation now. Do you agree that

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actually Britain could have an advantageous position regarding the

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US? It could. That is not the ultimate question at this stage. A

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decision as we taken by the British government as to whether it wants to

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have some kind of customs union because, if you have a customs

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union, that means you have a common external tariff. Neither Britain nor

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the EU can have separate trade deals with other countries. What does that

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mean in terms of Liam Fox's hardline position coming like a greyhound out

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of the tracks today? It is premature. The first decision that

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have to be made is what with the United Kingdom government ideally

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like? It is not just up to them. They then have to consider, is it at

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all likely that the EU will give subversion compromises to make that

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possible? You trigger Article 50 in 18 months, and in that 18 month

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period, two years, we are trading our way and getting our position

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out. At the same time, the UK is preparing to do the deals under FTA

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or whatever it is. A lot of work has to be done on working not just on

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what we would ideally like but one of the most probable outcomes of a

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negotiation with the United States, for example, or with China or India,

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and how that would compare with what we might get from the European

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Union, given half our traders with them. You have Liam Fox and David

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Davis, strong characters. Can Theresa May exert discipline?

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Absolutely. Boris Johnson will not be as hardline as the other two. His

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views are more nuanced as to whether we could have some sort of movement

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of people into the UK from other European countries. The other two

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will be more hardline. A decision on other taken by any individual but by

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the Kavanagh and Theresa May will have the main influence.

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Labour's summer civil war is being fought by two men trying

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to out-left each other on the left of the party.

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But today the challenger, Owen Smith, delivered

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a speech in which he tried to steal a march on Jeremy Corbyn

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by actually coming up with policies -

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tax the rich, end the public sector pay freeze,

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scrap the Department of Work and Pensions and pour

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But wouldn't Jeremy Corbyn say the same?

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Our Political Editor, Nick Watt, is here.

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So he makes this speech today, and what happens? Owen Smith was here on

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Monday night, and we asked him to put flesh on his ideas, so then he

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went away and then his message was, I can be as radical as Jeremy

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Corbyn, but more radical possibly, because I can actually deliver. So

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you heard about those tax increases and a tax on wealth. He was casting

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himself as a realistic revolutionary, unlike Jeremy Corbyn.

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This is what he had to say. We need a revolution

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but not some misty-eyed, romantic notion of a revolution,

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where we are going to overthrow capitalism and return

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to a socialist nirvana. But a cold-eyed, practical,

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Socialist revolution. How did that go down? At one level,

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Owen Smith is pursuing a sensible strategy. Jeremy Corbyn is admired

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by the Labour grassroots, and Owen Smith knows that if he's going to

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win, he's got to show that he's tacking to the left. But he has two

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challenges - has he consistently been radical, and he was here the

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other night talking about being in favour of choice in the NHS. And if

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he has been radical since the day he was born in Wales, people might say,

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why don't I vote for the real radical thing, Jeremy Corbyn? And he

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did make a slip up today. He did. He was trying to say that he was the

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true guardian and representative of workers' rights, and not Theresa

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May. This is what he said. Theresa May even had the temerity,

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I don't know if you saw it, at PMQs ten days ago, a week ago today

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in fact, to lecture Labour. Lecturing Labour on social injustice

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or insecurity at work. I'll be honest with you,

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it pains me that we didn't have the strength, the power

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and the vitality, to smash her back on her heels and argue that these

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are our values. Well, as Labour fight amongst

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themselves, what about the people who used to be regarded

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as their core support? At the time of the Brexit vote,

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Nicolas Blakemore went to Burnley to talk to people there about how

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they view the political revolution Mr Corbyn has refused to step down

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since losing the support of most Len McCluskey accused those trying

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to remove Jeremy Corbyn I voted Labour because

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my parents voted Labour, And I think they did used to be

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for the working class. Nigel Farage wants what's best

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for this country first, We have to take so many in,

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refugees. I feel sorry for them,

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I really, honestly do, but what about when you go

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to Manchester on a night out and all them people

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sat there homeless? They've got tents, haven't they,

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not far from Piccadilly? I think there's some foreign people

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who have come to this country These foreign people come in,

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because they've been let in. They get shopping vouchers

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to get their shopping. They get priority over anything

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that we get, and even when they're working,

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they still get benefits If you've put that

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through on the 10th, The Tories have really,

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really gone to town. We've actually got food banks around

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here, and people who What do you think about

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Jeremy Corbyn? So he is the current Leader

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of the Labour Party. To be honest, I don't know

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much about him at all. Since he was in power,

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I've absolutely taken no notice of the Labour Party whatsoever,

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because he were just a joke, really. He did numerous things,

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that there was the issue and he was calling the woman

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bigoted and whatnot. And I think that lost Labour

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a lot of votes. I always voted Labour

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because my mum and dad did, and my grandparents did,

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so I just followed suit. I feel like Labour are just

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bothered about Labour. So the council are all happy

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and well paid and looked after, I think they are just

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like the rest of the parties now. They don't seem to bother

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about the working class. I've just been watching

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the news, just now, talking about Jeremy Corbyn not even,

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possibly not even being able I don't actually listen to them

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any more, to be honest. I don't support Jeremy Corbyn,

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but, to me, it looks a bit like a stitch up,

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rather than a Parliamentary party. Who's going to be the Leader

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of the Labour Party? And when will they

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find out? It will probably be on the news

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tomorrow, and then we will see When I was young, we had

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mining and cotton mills and everything around here,

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loads of factories. You've spoken about what jobs used

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to be available in Burnley, but now anybody around my age who's

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not gone through the education system basically

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is looking at agency work. It's like the modern day lining up

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at the Liverpool Docks to get picked for a day's work,

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is agency work. When I left school, I was 15,

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and I had a job at a sewing place And I were only there for a morning

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and they were asking me, And I walked out of there,

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went and had an interview somewhere else, and started

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another job the day after. Now, you're struggling to get a job,

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and if you do get one, you've to stick at it

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whether you like it or you don't. The Labour Party say

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that they want to address this These people don't live

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in the real world. These people are in a career

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of politics. And you're seeing the game now

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with the Labour Party, They're just showing theirself

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for what they actually are, Well, joining me now is Kate Green,

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the Labour MP who is chairing Good evening. You heard that view

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from Burnley. People don't know who Jeremy Corbyn is, much less Owen

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Smith. And that goes back a decade. Isn't the problem that you've taken

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people for granted so long, they are just going to go to Ukip? I think

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people are very angry, very fearful, very worried about the future for

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themselves and their families. That over very powerfully in the

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conversations we've just been listening to. But it's also

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important to realise that we've got to be honest about what can be done,

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and the lies that people were being told during the referendum campaign

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about money being available for the NHS, for example, that were not

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true, and the proven not to be true, are going to make them further

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disillusioned and disbelieving in politics. Today, Owen Smith made 20

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policy pledges. They were on the economy, on taxation... What are

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they going to cost? More money for the NHS, ending public sector pay

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freeze... Where is the cost? It's important to understand not just how

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much they're going to cost, but how they will be paid for. That goes to

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the heart of what Owen was saying this morning, about our country

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having become very an equal. We are one of the richest countries in the

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world, but the money is concentrated in the hands of the very small

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number of people. Owen talk today about a wealth tax that would enable

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us to put money into the NHS. 20 billion. You will get that from a

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wealth tax? I don't think we are saying it is possible to put our

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country back on its feet and regenerate the communities we just

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been seeing in Burnley without understanding the money that is

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concentrated in the hands of wealthier people and organisations

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needs to be distributed, but also, Owen has talked about an investment

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programme, funded by borrowing, buy government bonds, to get our

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communities back on their feet. Listening to people in Burnley

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there, one of the big issues for people was immigration. Owen was

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very critical of Jeremy Corbyn, saying he did not address

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immigration properly. This was his first policy speech, and not a word

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about immigration. Why not? Different communities have different

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experiences of immigration. But this was a speech to the nation saying

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why people should vote for him on the left and not Jeremy Corbyn, and

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he didn't mention immigration, having criticised Jeremy Corbyn for

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not doing it. People in Burnley are feeling about the pressure on their

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public services. They are worried about immigration! They are talking

:27:23.:27:28.

about immigration, but they are worried about a deeper sense of

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insecurity for themselves, about jobs not being available. We heard

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them talking about the council not looking after the local area. So

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people do talk about immigration, at the deeper worry they feel is

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because of the inequality in this country, which leaves them feeling

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shut out of our prosperity. You've heard them saying what they think,

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and you say, what they really feel is. Isn't that the problems? People

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are saying that Labour are not listening to them and feeling their

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pain, they are career politicians. You didn't talk about welfare, just

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lots more money for the economy, and yet nothing chimes with people

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because they don't believe you. I am sure Owen will talk about more

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issues during this campaign. If an communities have different

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experiences of immigration. Some communities are accustomed to many

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new arrivals coming in among them, hats seasonal work, hats over many

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decades where there have been new communities arriving. Others do not

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have that experience. It is very important that we listen to what

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people are saying... This is not about the 600,000. It is the 11

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million you will have two attractive the ballot box. You will have to

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attract people who are voting Tory now. The single thing that separates

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Owen Smith from Jeremy Corbyn that people would actually vote for.

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People are frightened and worried in my constituency, feeling insecure

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about jobs, public services and the NHS. Owen talked about those things

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today. But the prospectus that Owen Smith is putting out today is no

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different from Jeremy Corbyn's it was regarded as being toxic a year

:29:27.:29:31.

ago. It looks like Owen Smith wants to out left Jeremy Corbyn. Why did

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he not vote for Jeremy Corbyn a year ago? It is not a question of whether

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they share values, because I think they do. It is about whether they

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have tangible solutions and concrete proposals to put these ideas and

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values into practice. It's important to say that this country isn't at

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ease with itself. People are worried. They feel divided. They

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feel a lack of confidence in the future. Owen's belief to address

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that is to invest in our communities and our people, and that is what

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voters want to hear. Thank you. Now to the Democrat convention

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in Philadelpia, where a pumped-up crowd are waiting for

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President Obama. The milestone marked

:30:15.:30:16.

by Hillary Clinton in this hall last night is a moment of history -

:30:17.:30:23.

albeit one that seems - to many in the rest of the world -

:30:24.:30:29.

to have taken a long time coming. She reached her delegate

:30:30.:30:32.

count when South Dakota But the jaw-dropping moment

:30:33.:30:34.

of the night came when her arch-rival Bernie Sanders appeared

:30:35.:30:43.

in the hall to declare the end of the counting

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and nominate her himself - a move that matched her own

:30:47.:30:48.

concession eight years Words, then and now,

:30:49.:30:51.

which speak volumes The convention here has been

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a tightly choreographed affair - with little mention

:30:54.:31:12.

of her Republican rival. But today, Trump himself muscled in,

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calling on Russia to hack Clinton's e-mails - a controversy

:31:15.:31:20.

which still raises questions This is the sound that Hillary's

:31:21.:31:22.

oft-quoted glass ceiling makes I am sensing this is

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the greatest thing that has Each state taking a lyrical

:31:28.:31:32.

moment in the sun to offer Their bigotry is tired,

:31:33.:31:49.

their attacks are uninspired. So, Mike Pence and Donald Trump,

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you are officially fired. I moved that the convention suspend

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the procedural rules... In the end, the counting though

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was brought to a swift close This is the moment we've all been

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waiting for at convention. Bernie Sanders hinted earlier today

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he wouldn't be the one nominating He's taken to the floor as a show

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of endorsement to encourage all his supporters to fall

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in line behind him. Governor of New York Andrew Cuomo

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had spent time earlier with Sanders, I had him with me this morning

:32:26.:32:28.

and we were chatting. I knew he was working very hard

:32:29.:32:36.

to unify the convention. He had to get his delegates

:32:37.:32:40.

to agree. Sometimes, the delegates can get

:32:41.:32:45.

so fired up about something that even when the leader says,

:32:46.:32:48.

we're going left, That evening, her husband,

:32:49.:32:51.

Bill Clinton, tried to show the Hillary he'd long known,

:32:52.:33:04.

talking of challenges she'd faced without explicitly stating his part

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in creating some of them. One of her oldest friends,

:33:08.:33:11.

Lanny Davis, knew her I first met Hillary when her last

:33:12.:33:13.

name was Rodham, before So, over all those yeras,

:33:14.:33:19.

there have been ups and downs. She has always struggled and fought

:33:20.:33:24.

and never given up, been knocked As a woman, women are accustomed to

:33:25.:33:27.

that a lot. She's never given up as long

:33:28.:33:36.

as I've known her. Did you ever doubt she would get to

:33:37.:33:40.

this point? The first five minutes I met her,

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I thought to myself, after saying goodbye,

:33:45.:33:48.

it was the first day I've just met the first female

:33:49.:33:50.

President of the United States. Make no mistake, this electoral

:33:51.:33:57.

circus has only just begun. Today, Donald Trump endeavoured

:33:58.:34:04.

to exploit Clinton's electoral vulnerability,

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encouraging Russia to What does Jerry Springer,

:34:09.:34:11.

a man who's made a day job This is the first time in American

:34:12.:34:16.

history we've ever had someone running for president who is opposed

:34:17.:34:25.

to the idea of America. The whole concept of America

:34:26.:34:29.

is the Statue of Liberty. Now, all of a sudden,

:34:30.:34:34.

we have someone who wants, in a sense, to replace

:34:35.:34:37.

it by building a wall, That is so un-American,

:34:38.:34:39.

it's embarrassing. He won the Republican Primaries,

:34:40.:34:44.

he did not yet face Now, if I'm wrong, he'll run this

:34:45.:34:48.

state come November but I think in November the American people

:34:49.:34:57.

won't vote for Donald Well, joining me is Xavier Becerra,

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Chair of the Democratic Caucus Very nice of you to join us. I want

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to start with those comments by Donald Trump, calling on Russia to

:35:20.:35:25.

expose -- expose Hillary Clinton's thing e-mails. I have never seen a

:35:26.:35:31.

candidate or nominee for president engaging in criminal activity,

:35:32.:35:41.

hacking cyber crimes and do it for an American company. It is another

:35:42.:35:48.

sign how Donald Trump is not fit to be president or commander-in-chief.

:35:49.:35:51.

That message was not really to Putin, it was to the American

:35:52.:35:56.

people. He knows this carries weight, the whole issue of

:35:57.:36:00.

trustworthiness will be hard. If you want to communicate something, do it

:36:01.:36:03.

the right way. Do not break the laws. It is very dangerous. He has

:36:04.:36:12.

made many dangerous statements. This is just another. The recent action

:36:13.:36:17.

of abandoning Nato was another reckless thing done by Donald Trump.

:36:18.:36:25.

There have been another of other dangerous statements made. At some

:36:26.:36:32.

point, one should become president, you are going to be shooting with

:36:33.:36:41.

live bullets. The worry for people now is, people may just decide to

:36:42.:36:48.

stay at home. If they do not like what they are hearing from either

:36:49.:36:55.

side. You look at this crowd you look at the energy which has been

:36:56.:37:03.

here. That is not this crowd. It will be the start of the actual

:37:04.:37:07.

election campaign. This is where it begins. You always have the forward

:37:08.:37:15.

guard. They are the events team. They are die-hard supporters. They

:37:16.:37:19.

get out there and others start to pay attention. Before you know it,

:37:20.:37:26.

people realise this is real. We have a guy who is telling Russia to

:37:27.:37:32.

engage in cyber crimes in the US. It is real. I was a little worried

:37:33.:37:39.

about what was happening in Great Britain recently with the Brexit

:37:40.:37:44.

vote, I have confidence in America. People will vote for the best

:37:45.:37:49.

interests of this country. What do you do to reach people, for example,

:37:50.:37:55.

the Hispanic vote, he might choose not to bother? Let them realise you

:37:56.:38:03.

are not just an image on the street. It is important because there is

:38:04.:38:09.

cynicism to the end. We get it back and we do not understand. We do not

:38:10.:38:16.

understand how people would hack our system. We have to connect again.

:38:17.:38:29.

Thank you very much indeed. Hillary Clinton is a very clever operator.

:38:30.:38:39.

Clearly working out the people she needs to breach now are Hispanics,

:38:40.:38:43.

rather than appointing Bernie Sanders. She knows in the end you

:38:44.:38:47.

will probably get their support anyway. Probably.

:38:48.:38:52.

Thank you, Amelie. The Daily Telegraph, working in an office is

:38:53.:39:03.

as bad as smoking. Daily Express puts a picture of Michel Barnier on

:39:04.:39:11.

the front page. The UK economy begins to feel the Brexit tremors.

:39:12.:39:19.

An attack about Clinton e-mails in the Guardian. The serious business

:39:20.:39:24.

Brexit and two recent may joins a light moment with the counterpart.

:39:25.:39:31.

The big story in the Times. Scientists create the first drug to

:39:32.:39:41.

halt Alzheimer's disease. That is almost it for tonight. If you have

:39:42.:39:46.

had not enough disturbing news for this month, look away now. The

:39:47.:39:53.

Siberian Times reports that scientists are finding jelly holes,

:39:54.:40:00.

large bubbles containing the greenhouse super gas, methane. They

:40:01.:40:03.

are performing above the Arctic tundra. It is not known if climate

:40:04.:40:08.

change is the cause but hundreds, if not thousands of gigatons of the gas

:40:09.:40:16.

light frozen in the permafrost. Look at this and sleep well.

:40:17.:40:55.

Some rain and sunshine. A bright start across eastern counties. That

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rain will arrive later on in the day. It will stay damp for much of

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the day across Northern Ireland and southern Scotland and it will

:41:10.:41:15.

consequently be quite cool. Chance of showers in the far north. Damp

:41:16.:41:19.

and dreary in the north of England.

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