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For many he was the most annoying man in the country. | :00:00. | :00:11. | |
But he was also one of the most dangerous. | :00:12. | :00:13. | |
But alongside Choudary, another man was convicted. | :00:14. | :00:16. | |
Less flamboyant in the media, arguably more of a threat. | :00:17. | :00:20. | |
We have an interview with him, from earlier this year. | :00:21. | :00:24. | |
This term radicalising, you need to define it. | :00:25. | :00:28. | |
Is Jeremy Corbyn radicalising the Labour Party, for example? | :00:29. | :00:30. | |
By the time this airs, you might be in jail. | :00:31. | :00:34. | |
Yearn for the days of the old British Rail? | :00:35. | :00:42. | |
This is the Night Mail crossing the border, bringing the cheque | :00:43. | :00:45. | |
Letters for the rich, letters for the poor, | :00:46. | :00:48. | |
the shop at the corner and the girl next door. | :00:49. | :00:50. | |
Jeremy Corbyn wants the trains back in public ownership. | :00:51. | :00:54. | |
We'll ask his transport spokesman if that's a good idea. | :00:55. | :01:07. | |
And Ainsley Harriet clambers off our Throne of Games to get | :01:08. | :01:09. | |
For years, he enjoyed needling everyone with his silly | :01:10. | :01:30. | |
pronouncements, that Buckingham Palace will become | :01:31. | :01:32. | |
But Anjem Choudary was not just a harmless controversialist - | :01:33. | :01:37. | |
he spread hate for two decades, attempted to radicalise others | :01:38. | :01:40. | |
and for some of that period invited them to join so-called | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
Islamic State, an organisation proscribed under the | :01:44. | :01:46. | |
He could now be handed a maximum jail sentence of ten years. | :01:47. | :01:54. | |
But, while Choudary is very well known, alongside him was another | :01:55. | :01:56. | |
character, Mizanur Rahman, a character who had also done a lot | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
to attract vulnerable minds to jihad. | :02:01. | :02:11. | |
The police said that Rahman and Choudary had stayed just | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
within the law for many years, but when they pledged an oath | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
of allegiance to IS, they had stepped over a line | :02:17. | :02:18. | |
Talk a bit about Anjem Choudary and when he came from. He was not always | :02:19. | :02:32. | |
part of the Islamist scene, he grew up in London and when he went to | :02:33. | :02:36. | |
university he reportedly drank alcohol and had girlfriends. But | :02:37. | :02:41. | |
after qualifying as a solicitor he helped to found a radical group | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
outward jackaroo which was subsequently banned. It kept | :02:47. | :02:50. | |
changing its name all the time to evade the attention of the | :02:51. | :02:53. | |
authorities. And Anjem Choudary became a source of frustration to | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
the authorities who thought he was dangerous but not quite ever | :02:59. | :03:05. | |
breaking the law. Until now. Because today restrictions in court were | :03:06. | :03:08. | |
lifted allowing us to reveal that three weeks ago he was convicted of | :03:09. | :03:14. | |
having pledged support online to Isis and having encouraged in his | :03:15. | :03:18. | |
videos others to support and join the group. This is a significant | :03:19. | :03:22. | |
moment, the general of Anjem Choudary, he has linked -- been | :03:23. | :03:28. | |
linked to 100 British jihadis. The followers for example of his when | :03:29. | :03:31. | |
fourth in the killing of Drummer Lee Rigby in Woolwich. We know other | :03:32. | :03:36. | |
followers of his way involved in 2010 plot to blow up the London | :03:37. | :03:42. | |
stock exchange. Not as Tierney UK, a large number of people have gone to | :03:43. | :03:48. | |
Syria for example, some quite high profile like one who took his young | :03:49. | :03:53. | |
family to Syria. And another killed in a drone strike in Syria last | :03:54. | :03:59. | |
year. Others whose names have never come into the public domain. Once I | :04:00. | :04:06. | |
logged off, a follower from north London who went out to Syria. And | :04:07. | :04:15. | |
another one of his followers to the right of the screen, and I | :04:16. | :04:19. | |
understand that he is now dead. That is Anjem Choudary, and also was this | :04:20. | :04:26. | |
other guy and most people will not have heard of him I think. | :04:27. | :04:30. | |
Absolutely, there is a clique around Anjem Choudary, some of them have | :04:31. | :04:34. | |
higher profiles. His co-defendant Mizanur Rahman in my view was just | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
as significant and perhaps even more so than Anjem Choudary when it comes | :04:40. | :04:43. | |
to the Syrian conflict. How is the campaign to move Britain | :04:44. | :04:45. | |
over to sharia law coming along? Anjem Choudary attracted | :04:46. | :04:48. | |
headlines but amongst jihadi circles he gradually | :04:49. | :04:52. | |
became less significant. In recent years it was his | :04:53. | :04:53. | |
right-hand man, Mizanur Rahman, Rahman had spent four years in jail | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
already for soliciting murder For Islam to prevail, | :04:58. | :05:05. | |
for sharia to be implemented, to support the state, to help, | :05:06. | :05:17. | |
it is not just about financing. Just like Anjem Choudary, | :05:18. | :05:26. | |
Mizanur Rahman was someone that provided the theological basis | :05:27. | :05:32. | |
for people to go But what was different, | :05:33. | :05:34. | |
what sets him apart from someone like Anjem Choudary is the fact | :05:35. | :05:37. | |
that he was very willing and active in engaging directly | :05:38. | :05:40. | |
with people over social media, Giving direct advice, | :05:41. | :05:42. | |
theological advice. In January whilst he was still | :05:43. | :05:44. | |
on bail, I met Rahman. Like Anjem Choudary, | :05:45. | :05:47. | |
he has always been someone These terms, radicalising, | :05:48. | :05:49. | |
you need to define it. Is Jeremy Corbyn radicalising | :05:50. | :05:58. | |
the Labour Party for example? If you mean am I debating people | :05:59. | :06:00. | |
and convincing people that my ideas might be correct, well, | :06:01. | :06:08. | |
that's what you do in a debate. Even if those ideas at times | :06:09. | :06:10. | |
break the law? We have already established | :06:11. | :06:12. | |
that we stay within At times they break | :06:13. | :06:19. | |
the law. By the time this airs, | :06:20. | :06:23. | |
you might be in jail. Because there is a political system | :06:24. | :06:27. | |
in place which doesn't really Rahman tried to be careful | :06:28. | :06:32. | |
in his language. This was an exchange of text | :06:33. | :06:36. | |
messages between him Choudhury says to Rahman, | :06:37. | :06:38. | |
"open support for Isis or Jabhat Rahman replies, "maybe condemning | :06:39. | :06:45. | |
Shia and the Free Syria Army and a general call for | :06:46. | :06:53. | |
sharia in Syria without The declaration of a caliphate | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
by Isis pushed Rahman towards more explicit support, | :06:56. | :07:02. | |
but without a passport, One Twitter exchange he had | :07:03. | :07:04. | |
with a young American Muslim He is asked if preaching is more | :07:05. | :07:13. | |
important than helping He replies, preaching is important, | :07:14. | :07:19. | |
but it's also obligatory A few months later, the American | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
was arrested at an airport And the concept of a Khilafah | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
is 1400 years old. You know, someone does not have one | :07:31. | :07:37. | |
twitter conversation and they decide to change their whole | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
life based on one tweet. Rahman insisted in court | :07:44. | :07:46. | |
to that his talks were about general There is a network around these | :07:47. | :08:08. | |
people. What does the conviction of these paired mean for that network? | :08:09. | :08:15. | |
Well when they were arrested in September 2014, at the time the | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
authorities I think are desperate to crack this network, not just in the | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
UK but have franchises across Europe, Belgium, Holland and | :08:25. | :08:28. | |
Denmark. They were worried about the possibility of attacks here and | :08:29. | :08:31. | |
subsequently with this conviction, the network has been significantly | :08:32. | :08:36. | |
disrupted. We have seen large numbers of the network who have | :08:37. | :08:40. | |
already gone to Syria. And I can reveal that recently quite a large | :08:41. | :08:44. | |
number of the followers of Anjem Choudary have been placed on | :08:45. | :08:49. | |
terrorism prevention orders and they're under curfews and restricted | :08:50. | :08:51. | |
access. For headline writers, | :08:52. | :08:53. | |
the words rail and misery seem to flow on to the page together, | :08:54. | :08:55. | |
like fat and cat or rip and off. And today, there are those headlines | :08:56. | :08:59. | |
of rail misery again - regulated train fares | :09:00. | :09:01. | |
are going up, we learned this The usual understandable | :09:02. | :09:03. | |
anger erupted, what with And from the Labour leader, | :09:04. | :09:06. | |
a potential solution. He called it Transport Tuesday - | :09:07. | :09:13. | |
jumping on the Super Saturday bandwagon perhaps - | :09:14. | :09:16. | |
and the solution he promised was public ownership | :09:17. | :09:18. | |
of the railways. There is one specific pledge: I'll | :09:19. | :09:23. | |
quote it to you, from "The plans could see rail passengers | :09:24. | :09:25. | |
save 10 per cent off So the big question is, | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
complain as we might about our trains, would public | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
ownership be a solution or a distraction to the problems | :09:34. | :09:35. | |
of running a railway. We'll talk to Labour's transport | :09:36. | :09:39. | |
spokesman shortly but first, Chris Cook looks at what | :09:40. | :09:41. | |
nationalisation might mean. The idea of allowing companies | :09:42. | :09:47. | |
to run train services was simple - in return for making a profit, | :09:48. | :09:51. | |
private investors would take some risk off the taxpayer, | :09:52. | :09:55. | |
encourage innovation, and use their balance | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
sheet to invest. The misery of Southern Rail | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
is the latest chapter in a long Industrial action, cancelled | :10:03. | :10:12. | |
and overcrowded trains, and growing political | :10:13. | :10:18. | |
support for renationalisation. The best way is for the public | :10:19. | :10:23. | |
to run it, as the public ran the East Coast Mainline, | :10:24. | :10:26. | |
at a profit. This is not a sensible way | :10:27. | :10:28. | |
of running a public railway system which we have all paid | :10:29. | :10:31. | |
for through huge levels of public investment in the track | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
and signalling systems. Today we learned that | :10:35. | :10:39. | |
fares will rise by 1.9% in January in Great Britain, | :10:40. | :10:43. | |
while consumer price And research by trade unions | :10:44. | :10:45. | |
suggests rail fares have increased at double the speed | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
of wages since 2010. Many of the problems we have | :10:53. | :10:59. | |
with our dysfunctional privatised system as it stands at the moment | :11:00. | :11:03. | |
is precisely that the fragmentation and of course the cost of that, | :11:04. | :11:06. | |
which means that instead of our fares going to invest | :11:07. | :11:09. | |
in the rail system, instead they are going out into the hands | :11:10. | :11:12. | |
of private shareholders. The underlying problem | :11:13. | :11:17. | |
is that our railway Back in 2011, an official report | :11:18. | :11:20. | |
implied a journey that would cost around ?1.20 in fare and public | :11:21. | :11:26. | |
subsidy in other European countries So, our fares in 2011 were about 30% | :11:27. | :11:29. | |
higher than those of our peers. The most important reason | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
why our rail is so important The flip side of our very | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
beautiful Victorian stations is we have a lot of Victorian rail, | :11:45. | :11:49. | |
which is expensive We are also, as a country, | :11:50. | :11:52. | |
tending to run a lot more services with relatively | :11:53. | :11:59. | |
few passengers on them, and that, too, boosts our | :12:00. | :12:01. | |
underlying cost base. Those unusually high costs mainly | :12:02. | :12:05. | |
relate to Network Rail, which runs the track, | :12:06. | :12:11. | |
and that's already nationalised. The private train operating | :12:12. | :12:14. | |
companies, they made over ?200 million of profit last year, | :12:15. | :12:18. | |
but that money would only fund Advocates for franchising see that | :12:19. | :12:21. | |
as a price worth paying There is one big number | :12:22. | :12:29. | |
that matters most. Under British Rail, numbers using | :12:30. | :12:35. | |
the railways consistently fell. Since 1995 when it was privatised, | :12:36. | :12:38. | |
journeys have doubled in just 20 years, but I think that franchising | :12:39. | :12:41. | |
has a lot of problems. It's not necessarily a natural | :12:42. | :12:44. | |
way to run railways. All across the world, | :12:45. | :12:46. | |
including here, companies build their railways up, | :12:47. | :12:48. | |
track and train together. Separating them as we do, | :12:49. | :12:50. | |
forcing them to be separate, Southern's recent woes may be | :12:51. | :12:53. | |
another cause for pause. In this case, a private company | :12:54. | :13:00. | |
doesn't actually have that much They are just being paid a fee | :13:01. | :13:03. | |
to administer the railway Right now, it strikes me | :13:04. | :13:08. | |
that we are getting We have the privatised system | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
plus a government that What we would have I think | :13:15. | :13:17. | |
if the company were properly in public hands, and I don't just | :13:18. | :13:21. | |
mean the state, we could have more imaginative systems of mutuals, | :13:22. | :13:25. | |
local authorities getting more involved, but if it were in public | :13:26. | :13:28. | |
hands, for a start, the contract would be fully public | :13:29. | :13:33. | |
so we could see what the terms were, and it would be fully accountable | :13:34. | :13:37. | |
to the public as well. Would a nationalised | :13:38. | :13:40. | |
rail system necessarily Governments are always | :13:41. | :13:42. | |
struggling to contain the cost They are always under pressure | :13:43. | :13:49. | |
to spend more on education. And the experience of British Rail | :13:50. | :13:55. | |
suggests that in that context, it is very hard to politically make | :13:56. | :13:57. | |
the case for spending Britain certainly botched | :13:58. | :14:01. | |
the franchising of its rail services, and we have all paid | :14:02. | :14:09. | |
the price, but renationalisation Shortly before coming on air, I | :14:10. | :14:35. | |
spoke to Andy Mangan on from Labour. He is the Shadow Transport | :14:36. | :14:39. | |
Secretary, and asked how his party would cut 10% from rail fares. It | :14:40. | :14:45. | |
would come from the savings that are to be achieved by getting out of | :14:46. | :14:48. | |
this treble franchising system that leaks so much money out of the | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
system. If we can end that, we have a fund available to deliver those | :14:54. | :14:57. | |
sorts of cuts. It is something in the order of ?1.2 billion going out | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
of the system on an annual basis. You say that, but I am looking at | :15:03. | :15:07. | |
the profits made by those companies. It is not a particularly profitable | :15:08. | :15:17. | |
business. Total profit of ?220 million in 2014-15. Passenger | :15:18. | :15:19. | |
revenue is getting on for ?9 billion. One is diddly squat, one is | :15:20. | :15:25. | |
a large number. If those operating costs were removed by having so many | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
operators in the system, we have ridiculous multiplicity of providers | :15:32. | :15:35. | |
in our country. There are so many players in the railway system that | :15:36. | :15:41. | |
costs escalate. You're going to have a Western Railway, an East Coast, a | :15:42. | :15:47. | |
Southern, they will still be there. That's right, but at the moment we | :15:48. | :15:52. | |
have a subsidy system going straight into these companies, often to | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
Germany, to France, all across the European Union. We are subsidising | :16:00. | :16:03. | |
some of them, but we make money from some of them. The profits which leak | :16:04. | :16:09. | |
out are approximately 2.5% of passenger revenues. You cannot cut | :16:10. | :16:18. | |
rail fares by 10%. You still have 7.5% to find. Research that the TUC | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
have conducted shows that millions can be taken out of the system on an | :16:26. | :16:30. | |
annual basis by changing to directly operated railways. Look at what | :16:31. | :16:35. | |
happened with East Coast, ?1 billion was returned to the Treasury over | :16:36. | :16:42. | |
the duration of that franchise. The TUC report makes estimates of these | :16:43. | :16:46. | |
interface cost, one company having to deal with another and work out | :16:47. | :16:51. | |
whose fault it was that the train was rape. The McNulty report said | :16:52. | :16:56. | |
that much more can be gained by improving the performance of the | :16:57. | :16:59. | |
current system rather than embarking on a costly programme of | :17:00. | :17:02. | |
renationalisation of which is unlikely to lead to an overall | :17:03. | :17:07. | |
reduction in costs. So, McNulty doesn't think that there is a big | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
cost saving to be found. But it isn't an expensive process if you | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
are just allowing franchises to get to them natural termination point | :17:18. | :17:20. | |
and not be renewed. There are no acquisition costs involved in the | :17:21. | :17:23. | |
process if they follow one after the other. We would be saving ourselves | :17:24. | :17:28. | |
fortunate over the term. What might you would agree that this comprises | :17:29. | :17:33. | |
a top-down reorganisation of the railways, wouldn't you? You want to | :17:34. | :17:39. | |
describe it that way. Because you have franchises regularly coming up | :17:40. | :17:45. | |
renewal, it is gradual. It is a top-down reorganisation. Why can't | :17:46. | :17:50. | |
we have the confidence to do what has been done in Germany and France, | :17:51. | :17:57. | |
and in Holland? They are content to have their infrastructure and their | :17:58. | :18:03. | |
operators being under state control. They are extracting value in this | :18:04. | :18:06. | |
country and taking it back over there. They are taking out a tiny | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
proportion, 2.5%. But that is a lot of money. The 10% cut in rail fares | :18:13. | :18:19. | |
is reliant on making hundreds of millions of pounds of savings which | :18:20. | :18:23. | |
the guy who's estimate of the savings you are quoting does not | :18:24. | :18:28. | |
believe our there to be made. You have different commentators coming | :18:29. | :18:34. | |
up with different figures. You quoted the TUC, who are quoting | :18:35. | :18:40. | |
McNulty, and McNulty says you cannot make those savings. I respectfully | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
disagree. There are people like Southern who are getting millions of | :18:47. | :18:50. | |
pounds by way of salaries and bonuses for running the most | :18:51. | :18:55. | |
appalling service. We hand over ?1.1 billion to that company and it | :18:56. | :18:58. | |
doesn't matter what happens in terms of the service they provide, they | :18:59. | :19:04. | |
get paid, come rain or shine. It is unacceptable. In that respect, you | :19:05. | :19:09. | |
make an interesting point, because is the truth about not that this | :19:10. | :19:14. | |
railway system in our country is government-controlled already? | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
Network Rail is part of the public sector. Southern, the Government | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
gets all of the revenue from the passengers in the case of that | :19:22. | :19:25. | |
franchise. It instructs Southern on how to manage the service. It has | :19:26. | :19:32. | |
told Southern to stick to its rules on driverless trains. It is a public | :19:33. | :19:40. | |
ownership of the railway. Not at all. They are given that money | :19:41. | :19:43. | |
whether they perform well or indifferently. As we have just seen, | :19:44. | :19:49. | |
they have taken 341 trains off per day. At the Government's decision. | :19:50. | :19:54. | |
That is a Government decision, not a Southern one. They should be told to | :19:55. | :20:04. | |
get things back in order, then. It is a distraction, the discussion | :20:05. | :20:09. | |
about driverless trains. You want the Government have more say in the | :20:10. | :20:13. | |
well but clearly not the Conservative Government because you | :20:14. | :20:16. | |
say they do not run Southern very well. If your team runs the | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
railways, will you run it better than you run the Labour Party? It is | :20:21. | :20:28. | |
about having the freedom to do what was done by directly operated | :20:29. | :20:33. | |
railways between 2009 and 2014, and look at the success they made of the | :20:34. | :20:39. | |
East Coast service. The highest rate of customer satisfaction, good | :20:40. | :20:42. | |
industrial relations, a very successful service, so it is freeing | :20:43. | :20:46. | |
us up from this rigour of trying to produce dividends and profits to | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
third parties and foreign state-owned companies. Some will say | :20:52. | :20:55. | |
this is ideological. Do you believe that BT should be brought into | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
public ownership as well? That is not my view. Do you think it was | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
right to privatise it? In the fullness of time, I think all of | :21:05. | :21:08. | |
these services can be looked at. Why are we looking at six companies | :21:09. | :21:12. | |
providing energy when what people want is reliable energy as cheap as | :21:13. | :21:17. | |
possible? They don't want to be in competition and trying to switch | :21:18. | :21:20. | |
providers. They simply want to have a good service, reliable and | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
affordable. At the moment, those things don't exist. We have been a | :21:26. | :21:30. | |
big can of worms there. Andy McDonald, thank you very much. | :21:31. | :21:32. | |
On this programme, we first posed the question, what does | :21:33. | :21:35. | |
Brexit actually mean, back on October 28th last year. | :21:36. | :21:37. | |
We didn't manage to get an answer then, and even though a lot of water | :21:38. | :21:41. | |
has passed under the bridge since, it's fair to say we still don't | :21:42. | :21:44. | |
Last year, we took a first look at some of the popular options: | :21:45. | :21:49. | |
Norway and Switzerland for example, and these were much discussed | :21:50. | :21:52. | |
But we missed one then, and it hasn't had much pick up | :21:53. | :21:58. | |
OK, so it is not a very big country, but like Norway, it's | :21:59. | :22:07. | |
in the European Economic Area - unlike Norway, it has restrictions | :22:08. | :22:09. | |
Helen Thomas is in the principality to see if its status could possibly | :22:10. | :22:14. | |
This is Liechtenstein's idea of how to celebrate a national holiday. | :22:15. | :22:24. | |
A garden party, the Royal Family on display, a rather familiar tune. | :22:25. | :22:33. | |
And of course, a hefty dose of national pride. | :22:34. | :22:47. | |
Liechtenstein clearly has a lot to recommend it. | :22:48. | :22:49. | |
Glorious weather, beautiful scenery, and quite a catchy national anthem. | :22:50. | :22:51. | |
But from the UK's point of view, the country also has | :22:52. | :22:54. | |
Liechtenstein, like Norway, is part of the single market | :22:55. | :22:58. | |
through its membership of the European Economic Area. | :22:59. | :23:02. | |
But the country also has a tightly controlled quota | :23:03. | :23:04. | |
Now, that is a combination that some in Europe claim is impossible, | :23:05. | :23:13. | |
that the four freedoms of people, goods, capital and services | :23:14. | :23:17. | |
An example to point to as the UK starts the long and complicated | :23:18. | :23:27. | |
process of extricating itself from the EU? | :23:28. | :23:33. | |
There's an important thing I think is, it's not specifically | :23:34. | :23:35. | |
What they're doing is adopting what are known technically | :23:36. | :23:40. | |
as safeguard measures which then brought them a treaty change. | :23:41. | :23:43. | |
But it doesn't just apply to Liechtenstein. | :23:44. | :23:45. | |
This is not specifically a Liechtenstein solution. | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
And when the EEA was first set up there were actually four countries | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
which took advantage of these provisions. | :23:55. | :24:04. | |
There are some subtle differences between Liechtenstein and the UK. | :24:05. | :24:07. | |
The UK's population is about 1750 times larger. | :24:08. | :24:09. | |
And Liechtenstein is about half the size of the Isle of Wight. | :24:10. | :24:18. | |
So you see, it's really a small country, and for that, | :24:19. | :24:27. | |
Without control, we have a lot of people, a lot of aliens | :24:28. | :24:32. | |
in Liechtenstein and that would be a big problem for Liechtenstein. | :24:33. | :24:36. | |
So it's not clear that the UK will get an invitation | :24:37. | :24:38. | |
It's starting from a different position and that's one reason | :24:39. | :24:46. | |
to question whether the model would work for the UK. | :24:47. | :24:49. | |
It doesn't set a legal precedent given that the provisions under | :24:50. | :24:52. | |
which Liechtenstein has been able to negotiate their situation is one | :24:53. | :24:55. | |
under the EEA agreement of which the UK is not yet a member. | :24:56. | :25:01. | |
The Prime Minister doesn't think the same deal will be on offer. | :25:02. | :25:04. | |
Yeah, I think nowadays it would be almost impossible for Liechtenstein | :25:05. | :25:06. | |
But I think when we would today negotiate such a solution, | :25:07. | :25:18. | |
And you see the discussions in Switzerland, also in the UK, | :25:19. | :25:24. | |
free movement is one of the pillars of the EU. | :25:25. | :25:30. | |
And it's quite difficult to get that special situation. | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
The mechanics of how the UK could replicate Liechtenstein's | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
We would need to join both the European Free Trade | :25:40. | :25:44. | |
Other members could block that happening. | :25:45. | :25:49. | |
But some in Liechtenstein think the UK has scope to negotiate. | :25:50. | :26:01. | |
of the EEA or yet another concept, is open. | :26:02. | :26:07. | |
And I would think that with this Brexit and the pressure from other | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
EU countries, that this immigration issue has to be changed. | :26:12. | :26:13. | |
And it can only be solved with changes. | :26:14. | :26:15. | |
With that, I think that plays into the hands of Britain. | :26:16. | :26:21. | |
Embracing Liechtenstein's model wholesale may prove complicated. | :26:22. | :26:28. | |
But its unique situation could prove an illuminating example. | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
The UK will be looking for any chance to ensure negotiations | :26:34. | :26:36. | |
While some of you have been contemplating what the offspring of | :26:37. | :26:58. | |
Laura Trott and Jason Kenny could achieve in future Olympics, we have | :26:59. | :27:04. | |
been looking at matters closer to home. | :27:05. | :27:05. | |
I say sofa, it's more like a patchwork quilt of | :27:06. | :27:09. | |
I'm so glad the Olympics is only once every four | :27:10. | :27:35. | |
I've been watching you night after night, | :27:36. | :27:42. | |
and you're starting to look a little bit pasty. | :27:43. | :27:44. | |
Because you're not eating the right things. | :27:45. | :27:46. | |
A little coconut milk going in there. | :27:47. | :28:10. | |
If you can't get yak, go straight to coconut. | :28:11. | :28:12. | |
It's so much better when you've cooked it yourself. | :28:13. | :28:28. | |
In the old days, she'd have missed the tape. | :28:29. | :28:45. | |
Because his upper body is somewhere across the line. | :28:46. | :28:51. | |
Should this be track, or should this be in | :28:52. | :28:53. | |
There's a lot of diving going on here, isn't | :28:54. | :28:57. | |
He looks like he's just fallen out of a | :28:58. | :29:07. | |
Is this speeded up, or is this normal? | :29:08. | :29:19. | |
People say, oh you can get up and watch it in the morning. | :29:20. | :29:26. | |
If it was me, I'd have the old waistband up here. | :29:27. | :29:48. | |
Well, partly that, but you're not allowed to | :29:49. | :29:53. | |
Would you like your kids to box, though? | :29:54. | :29:59. | |
Mind you, you might have to spar with them. | :30:00. | :30:07. | |
Have you had any problems with the hips? | :30:08. | :30:19. | |
Well that's great, come on, I'll show you this wonderful... | :30:20. | :30:25. | |
You've been watching Stephen Smith's Throne of Games. | :30:26. | :30:33. | |
And you wonder why Julian Fellowes has taken | :30:34. | :30:35. | |
Don't worry, there will be another programme later today! Good morning! | :30:36. | :30:43. |