17/08/2016 Newsnight


The report into Tory bullying, the latest on the Garden Bridge, the latest news from Ukraine and Angela Rippon dances off Throne of Games. With Evan Davis.

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The Garden Bridge across the Thames in London.


We love to sneer. That's the brilliant thing about the democracy


of our country, that we can all say what we want. But people need to


spot through all of that what our people's separate agendas.


We'll ask the chairman of the Garden Bridge Trust


A year ago, this young Conservative activist killed himself.


He said he'd been bullied by a more senior party worker.


Today the Conservatives published their own inquiry


And yes, they knew it was a risk to put that particular man in charge.


So did the party properly discharge its duty of care


And guess who's finally hauled Steve Smith off


You know how public money so often gets spent in London -


sprucing it up, attracting tourists, hosting Olympics.


And you know how hard it is for other parts


of the country to get the same financial attention.


Well, there is one London project that has come to typify the problem


more than any other - it's costing the taxpayer


It's not even something that all Londoners want.


It is a garden bridge across the Thames.


It's amazing how controversial it has turned out to be.


The designer Thomas Heatherwick - famous for the Olympic


torch - is behind it, backed by Joanne Lumley.


But can it be dismissed as a celebrity-promoted indulgence?


Or is it a cost-effective investment for the national taxpayer?


At nearly 370 metres long, and covered with flowers, shrubs and


trees, the Garden Bridge Is no ordinary river crossing. It is


hoping to be an attraction in itself, as well as Regis in


congestion in a busy part of London. It has attracted ?60 million of


taxpayer money. Few would argue that the designs for the Garden Bridge


are unimpressive, but plenty of people don't want it ever to be


built, and they are asking questions, like, will the money ever


be had for it to go ahead? It appears that the finances are more


precarious than anyone has previously admitted. If we could all


slow down for a moment, look up... Many supporters have made their case


passionately. This was an example of Britain at its best, proof that we


could bear to be ground-breaking. I grew up in the 1970s and 80s, when


nothing happened. It felt like Britain was stuck and a bit


paralysed was it was cities like Paris and Barcelona that dared to


create future culture. And amenity, and celebrate the public dimension.


The idea of a free garden that open longer than any of the Royal Parks,


for all of us, is a thrilling thing. But the bridge is not having an easy


ride. Transport For London have conceded that the procurement


process was neither is open or as fair as it should have been, and in


July, Newsnight reported that the Government is deciding whether or


not to continue underwriting the project. If it doesn't, the bridge


is finished. On top of that, the Garden Bridge Trust is yet to buy


the land they need on both sides of the river, plus the National Audit


Office and Charity commission are investigating. The major problem


could well be the money. If the bridge is ever going to be built,


the team behind it need to raise ?175 million. They got ?60 million


from us, the taxpayers, leaving 115 million to come from the private


sector, companies and individuals. Newsnight has learned that several


funders have pulled out in the last year, and what we have been led to


believe is a ?30 million shortfall is actually more like ?52 million.


Newsnight has analysed or public statements made by the Garden Bridge


Trust and asked further questions about its finances. This graph shows


that despite ongoing claims of successful fundraising, for the 14


months up to this June, the shortfall remained broadly


consistent, at around ?30 million. When we queried this with the Trust,


that shortfall appear to have widened by more than ?20 million.


The Trust said it had raised ?34 million of private money in 2014,


?17.8 million in 2015, and a further ?11 million this year. Add on the 60


million of taxpayer cash, and you get to ?122.8 million, leaving the


bridge short of ?52 million. A spokesperson also explained that


last year a small number of pledges made by interested organisations did


not progress to formal funding contracts. It took until the month


of May this year until we got any kind of breakdown of where the money


was coming from to pay for the bridge, and when it came, it turned


out large numbers of donors didn't want us to know who they were. There


have been huge issues with the funding right from the start, with


60 million public funds going in, but also amounts of fund raising, we


don't know who it is coming from, whether it is individuals or


companies, so many have chosen to remain anonymous, which is unusual


when you want to sponsor and promote a project or stop we need to


understand the issues with these people and companies. Are there


conflicts of interest? Raising money for these kinds of project is rarely


simple, and when they get negative press, it doesn't help. We love to


sneer. That is the brilliant thing about the democracy of our country,


we can all say what we want. People need to spot through all about what


people's separate agendas are, wanting to believe that somehow


there is something other than just wanting to do something great for


all of us. Ultimately, whether the bridge is ever built is out of the


hands of its supporters. It is politicians, both Labour and


Conservative, who will decide whether it has a future.


Joining me to answer the serious concerns on the funding and future


of the Garden Bridge is Lord Mervyn Davies,


We have to talk about the finances, which are so open eight. The


estimated cost is ?175 million. More like 185 because of the delays. OK.


You have raised how much privately? There are 38 committed sponsors who


have raised nearly ?70 million. The pipeline is very strong, so I would


say, when you look at these images, this is an iconic project, well


governed, I think it is important to remember the history of this. It was


started by Transport For London, then the Trust took over in May of


2015. We have an experienced group of trustees will stop the funding


has good momentum, and inevitably with a project like this, there was


some opposition. Last year, there was talk of having raised ?85


million privately cos I don't understand the discrepancy between


what you are saying, 70, and this 85. In June of this year, you've


mentioned ?83 million. I have heard ?63 million. There are a lot of


figures. The figure is ?69.5 million, call it 70. We have had one


or two mac that have gone away, maybe because of the uncertainty.


One of them was because of a change of chief executive in the company,


but I think it is important to note that the project as good momentum on


fundraising. To be blunt, it looks like you're moving backwards. You


have lost more money over the last year 's... Look, we have satisfied


nearly 90 conditions for Westminster and Lambeth Council. We have good


momentum on planning, on our partnership with the Secretary of


State, the Department for Transport, and also Transport For London, so


they sit at the table of the trust. I would say with confidence that we


as a group of trustees believe we will raise the money. OK. A lot of


the money is anonymous. No, 38 committed sponsors who have signed


commitments... They are not anonymous. How many of the 38 would


not be anonymous? A number of them will only announce their inclusion


as donors when the building work starts. We don't have to worry about


conflict-of-interest? No. There are five donors, and I have raised money


for the Royal Academy, for the breakthrough breast Cancer, a number


of situations where great UK philanthropies want their names to


be out of the limelight, so we do have five anonymous donors. You are


saying, because it is 40 million at the moment of anonymous pledge


money, as we understand it, and that is rather a lot, but you are saying


that will disappear, or most of it. There will be five donors. I would


like to add another thing, when people talk about the Government


talk about -- when people talk about the Government contribution. The


money from Transport For London we are very paying over a longer


period. We are also paying back but might we have been charged VAT, so


the Government gives as ?30 million in one hand and takes it back


through VAT. I have to ask this, because so far you have not built


anything or acquired the land at either end of the bridge, and yet, I


think you spent ?36 million. That is 20% of the entire cost of the


project. It is about what it cost in today's prices to build the


millennium Bridge. You could build a bridge for the money you have spent,


and we have nothing to show for it. You like to get the planning,


construction and all the work they have done, it is hugely expensive.


?10 million was spent by Transport For London before the trust even got


started, so actually, the monitoring of the cost... To be clear, the ?36


million includes ?10 million before the Trust ever became involved? The


36 has been spent since the trust was created. We have wide experience


at the Trust and all that money has been spent in preparation for


digging in the Thames, getting licences and getting us ready. That


doesn't cost tens of millions of pounds. Getting this ready, getting


the construction, the prototypes, the design, that takes time. Has a


lot of it been spent on fundraising? No. The actual running costs of the


trust and fundraising has been financed by a private family. It is


going to be a formidable challenge, because you not only have to raise


the ?185 million, minus the public's contribution, their results are the


ongoing running cost, and the authorities want to know that you


have the money to run the thing. And I think that you want a pot of ?50


million from which you can invest and earn some money to keep it


going. We have money that has been pledged for an endowment for the


running of the bridge. That was included in the 70 million? It is


separate. You have more money than that? It is separate. We will hold


events. We have got planning... There are many ways of raising


money. In order to get planning, with Lambeth and with Westminster,


we had to present, and to the Government, a detailed business case


on how the bridge would be maintained and run afterwards. So


all we need to do, we have done the planning, we now need to do a deal


to get the land, and we are there. And the rest of the money. Just that


small thing! We, as a group of trustees, are very confident that we


can get the money. When we look at a project like this, I wonder, because


it attracts people to say, procurement was very strange, and we


won't go into that now. People object to the money, people don't


like the design. If the country wanted projects like this, you would


have to break a few eggs in order to create an omelette. If that means


riding roughshod over procurement rules, so be it. No, no, no. That is


the truth of it, isn't it? It is not. I have a bank CEO and chairman.


We have to have good governance, the right skills at trustee level, which


we have, then I think you have to be very resilient. This is an iconic


project, and I think it is wonderful for Britain. It sums up what is


great about Britain. It is creative, imaginative, and I think on an


evening like this in London, visitors, Londoners, walking across


a bridge with 27,000 perennials, 270 trees, you know, it will be magical.


Not nice, magical. 2018 or 2019? 2019.


Last summer, 21 year old Elliot Johnson took


In one of the letters he left, he said he'd been bullied


and betrayed, and he singled out a man called Mark Clarke,


the man running the Conservative Road Trip 2015, a roving


Elliot's death prompted questions to be asked


Should it have known that Mark Clarke was a bully?


Well, Mr Clarke has always denied the charge, but today came


the results of the official Conservative Party inquiry.


From the law firm Clifford Chance, it identified 13 alleged victims


of bullying and inappropriate behaviour, as well as six


Yes, the party's top managers did know that Mr Clarke had


But on the specific issue of whether the two chairmen


of the party knew last year of bullying of activists,


James Clayton has been reporting on this story since last summer.


If anyone expected the law firm Clifford Chance's report into


allegations of bullying harassment and inappropriate behaviour to lay


blame at the feet of senior party figures they would be sorely


disappointed. On the face of it the report cleared both the men


responsible for running the party at the time. Its verdict on Lord


Feldman was that there was no evidence he was aware of allegations


of bullying or harassment of young activists by Mr Clarke or those


associated with prior to the August 14, 2016 complaint. That was the


complaint made by Elliot Johnson. The same assessment was given to


Grant Shapps. This is despite 12 other individuals complaining of


bullying or inappropriate behaviour by Mark Clarke on the previous 20


months. It's led some to call the report are quite large but a closer


look reveals a striking number of warnings which were missed or


ignored by the Conservative Party hierarchy. In 2014 when Mark Clarke


was being considered for a rollback CC HQ Grant Shapps exam did his


candidate file when he ran as a parliamentary candidate in tooting.


The findings published today show that candidate report included: the


report also said that the then campaign director Lord Gilbert


recalled: Paul Abbott was Grant Shapps chief of staff, in 2014,


before Mark Clarke was hired he was told: the report also says that Mr


Abbott sent Mark Clarke an e-mail about a Conservative future


election, describing: the attitude of senior party figures to Mark


Clarke was simply summed up in one e-mail from Grant Shapps to Tory


election guru Sir Lynton Crosby, he had contacted Grant Shapps is about


Mark Clarke. Grant Shapps replied explaining he was aware of the


reputation of Mark Clarke but employing him was a calculated risk.


Although the enquiry found that Lord Feldman had not been aware of any


allegations of Mark Clarke bullying activists before 2015 the report


intriguer winger revealed that following the complaint from Elliot


Johnson he wrote in an internal correspondence that he had: when


asked to clarify his comments he said he was referring to his


competence as a campaign organiser. On one specific allegation brought


by Newsnight last September the report said it found no evidence to


corroborate the claim that Lord Feldman had been handed a dossier


about the behaviour of Mark Clarke by Ben Howlett as far back as 2011.


The enquiry found the MP had met up with Lord Feldman and handed him a


set of papers which mentioned Mark Clarke but they had only discussed


political concerns about him and other young activists. Despite the


report exonerating senior figures it has left many wondering how so many


complaints could have been made to the Conservative Party about Mark


Clarke form must of bullying to sexually inappropriate behaviour,


all of which he denies without any responsibility being taken by those


who ran the party. Now at the centre of


it all, Mark Clarke. His solicitors told Clifford Chance


that "the allegations made against Mr Clarke are wholly untrue


and unsubstantiated. Many are based on totally


fabricated media reports". Mr Clarke said he has been


cooperating with the police and won't respond to allegations


while the police investigation into Elliot Johnson's


death is ongoing. Earlier, I spoke to Elliot Johnson's


father, who received a summary I began by asking what he made


of it. We received an additional letter


from Patrick McLoughlin with the summary. He says that the report


states that the Conservative Party acted entirely properly. However in


the very next sentence they go on to say that they are making changes to


the way that they, the volunteer leaders operate as a code of conduct


and making changes to the complaints procedure. So what is it? Have they


acted entirely properly or having Ortis De Villiers? It interesting


that it does imply, or does report that clearly senior figures in the


party when they started the road trip which son was involved in, the


new that this chap, Mark Clarke, had let's call it an interesting


history, that he came with quite a lot of baggage. As I remember Grant


Shapps said Mark Clarke came with a chequered history so they were aware


of it and prepare to take a risk, take a gamble. The report tells us


that a phrase was used by Grant Shapps that this is an "Calculated


risk". He's a good campaigner but there is this other history. It's a


risk too far, you cannot take a calculated risk with a person like


that when you are dealing with young people. A lot of people see you


should have been talking to the enquiry but you were reluctant, you


did not want to have anything to do with it, why? We saw it as a


whitewash from the start, this was run by the Conservative Party, they


chose their own solicitors, not independent, and they were paying


for it so how can it possibly be independent? Our view was that they


wanted to use us as some kind of cover, you might say. Some kind of


gloss over the enquiry. We were not prepared to be used as a tool in


that way. You have quite a lot of anger at the Conservative Party and


the way they dealt with your son. Would you at least concede that


looking back on it, as the coroner found in the inquest earlier this


year, his tragic death was a more complicated tragedy than simply the


bullying by Mark Clarke? The coroner said he believed himself to have


failed with money, politics, with his parents and filled with life. We


have had our own psychologist report conducted and he said that people


put into that kind of extreme pressure, youngsters especially, do


react in those ways, make claims they have failed in life and with


money. They are lost, they are losing track of the reality of their


lives, and I think Eliot was no different. Nothing to do with him


being gay or finding that difficult? Nothing to do with that at all.


Elliott was openly gay, he was badly bullied, badly treated by people


within the Conservative Party and his employer responded by actually


making things worse. I know it's been a difficult year for you, thank


you so much for talking to us. In the last week, Russia has accused


Ukraine of instigating Ukraine has denied it,


and there has been a war There have been other reported


incidents between the countries, So after a long period


in which Ukraine has been in the background,


should we worry that a cold war I spoke to the Ukrainian ambassador


here, Natalia Galibarenki, and asked her what support Ukraine


hopes for from the West. We expect that the West will not be


tricked by the Russian so there is a strict sanction


policy, there is also a policy of support to Ukraine,


and I think that our Western So, sanctions against


Russia, support... Let me ask you this: Do you think


the West is resigned now to Crimea Of course, there is a tendency


of accepting the real politik. The fact that Russia


is controlling Crimea, even nevertheless that Ukraine


are striving to do everything we can to have Crimea


on the top of the agenda Do you think it will come


back at some point? I think so, you know,


because we cannot be sure that people who are living


on the peninsula now are really happy with the Russian


authoritarian regime, because we are receiving information


and confirmations that there is already a crackdown


on human rights in Crimea. People are not really that happy


about the restriction of their rights, so our idea


is that we will not be fighting for Crimea on a battlefield,


we will be trying to create a success story in Ukraine to show


people on the peninsula, look, you would be better


with us in Ukraine. What about the West


and its support for Ukraine? You want sanctions against Russia


and support for Ukraine, you've been clear about that,


but is the commitment, do you think, of the


West really there? If I was to be really ambitious,


I would be expecting from the West more military and technical


support to the Ukraine. On the other hand, I do


understand their argument about, for example, not providing lethal


weapons to Ukraine, because they are afraid


about the escalation Did the West betray you,


do you think, when Crimea was taken, when the war was going


on in the Russian end of Ukraine? The only country who betrayed


Ukraine was Russia. For years, we were thinking of them


as our good neighbour, You know, I even know people


in Kiev who are saying, we will never be a victim of any


external aggression because we have the Russian Black Sea Fleet


stationed in Crimea. Two years ago, we had


no armed forces. We were not prepared to encounter


Russian aggression. But now, like the situation in


Donbas showed, because of the great level of patriotism in Ukraine,


we were capable of curbing them We have been hardliners


on the Russian issue within the EU. Maybe the EU is going


to change policy. The good news is that this country


will not just withdraw from all of the continent,


so I think that even irrespective of the status,


London will be playing a major, important role in all these


international affairs and also My idea and hope is that the UK


will remain staunch Ambassador, thank


you very much indeed. With four days of Olympic action to


go it's all about the fight for second place in the medals table,


Team GB versus China. Meanwhile from a couch in London team Steve Smith


is fighting for a first-place finish, were just not sure of what


the contest is. Tonight however, it is Angela Rippon's time to shine.


Look, it is either this or Evan and another


You know, we discovered Radio 3 hadn't spent their full Olympics war


chest so we hired Cal here to essay the Brazilian song book for us.


This is a stupendous ride from Laura Trott.


And she is engaged to another top cyclist, also a Brit.


Do you think they have got a tandem at home?


The derny bike is slowly making its way...


There goes the derny bike.


Because he is the only one not peddling.


Have you got any cycling music?


He has got to close the gap and towards the line,


Bolt wins a gold in less than ten seconds, Andy Murray has


four hours to win gold, I mean, you know, come on.


I mean, if it took Usain Bolt four hours to do the 100 metres


I would say that's a clear.


Oh! Oh!


The white flag went up is what he is saying.


Let's have a look, we can see the official just a left-hand side


He is celebrating and that's his reaction


Throw the coach in, go on, you've got to throw the coach in. One of


the joys I have two seed is looking at those amazing masculine


physiques, they are just beautiful. Everyone is talking about Top Gear,


you were the first presenter, if Tony hall, who I know watches this,


if he got down on his knees and said Angela, please, come back? I would


say find somebody else. If you are going to have a successful programme


you how to think who is going to be watching it and what their


expectation is. We never think about that. You have do think who is


watching it and what do they want from the presenters. Everyone is


getting very excited about Strictly Come Dancing. Yes. Give me a rhythm.


You have been watching throne of games. You know what we say at the


BBC, no refunds. I'll Very long time viewers of this show


might remember we weren't always very kind to John Major back


when he was Prime Minister. We weren't always respectful


of his cones hotline or his back However it's now been pointed out


that his decision to divert lottery cash to elite sport is in fact


the main reason for Team GBs So whatever else he might have got


wrong, credit where it's due.


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