06/09/2016 Newsnight


In-depth investigation and analysis of the stories behind the day's headlines with Kirsty Wark, as MPs call for a pause in arms sales to Saudi Arabia.

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It has been fast and furious in the Newsnight office today -


a string of exclusive stories, from arms sales to Saudi Arabia,


to a row over classifying athletes for the Paralympics and Hollywood's


hottest comedy property, Amy Schumer.


This is how the Saudis are fighting the war in Yemen.


Tonight, we've learned a committee of MPs is about to demand a pause


This is how the Saudis are fighting the war in Yemen.


Tonight, we've learned a committee of MPs is about to demand a pause


in arms sales to Saudia Arabia because of attacks like this one.


At around 4.00pm in the afternoon patients, doctors, nurses here could


Now, they didn't think it would strike, not only because this


is a residential area, but because this is a hospital.


However, an air strike did hit, right over here, killing


After the success of 2012, the Paralympics begin in Rio


tomorrow, dogged by controversy over doping, ticket sales


Now, we reveal troubling questions about how


Both national and international classification, I think it's


not fit for purpose, it's not sufficiently robust


We meet the irrespressible American comedian, Amy Schumer.


If it isn't Hillary in November, does your act change?


My act will change because I'll need to learn to speak Spanish


because I will move to Spain or somewhere.


Newsnight has seen a leaked report which suggests that the Government


may be heading for a major embarrassment over its continued


support for British arms sales to Saudi Arabia.


Over the past year, our reporter, Gabriel Gatehouse, has repeatedly


documented the targeting of civilians and civilian


infrastructure, including factories and hospitals,


in the Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen.


And yet, as late as yesterday, the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson,


defended British arms sales to Saudi Arabia for use in Yemen,


saying the campaign is not in clear breach


But Gabriel has now learned that the Commons Committee


of Arms Export Controls takes a very different and damning view.


What's the story? A background to this. In July this year, on the last


day of parliament before the summer recess, in what is known as take out


the trash day. The day the Government releases potentially


embarrassing information. The Foreign Office made a startled a MiG


when it said over a period of six months the Government had assessed


that Saudi Arabia wasn't in breach of international humanitarian law in


Yemen it admitted it had made no such assessment at all. It replied


on Saudi assertions. You mentioned Boris Johnson's continued support


for arms sales to Saudi Arabia saying there wasn't enough evidence


to suggest that Saudi Arabia was committing war crimes. Well, this


report from the committee on arms export control. It's a draft report,


it concludes the opposite. It says the weight of evidence is so great


that the UK should suspend arms sales to Saudi Arabia for use in


Yemen until an independent and international inquiry can establish


the truth. Now, both sides in this conflict have been accused of


committing war crimes, but the UN says 60% of the civilian casualties


are caused by Saudi led air strikes. This programme highlighted targeting


of countryians. We saw that Yemen last year. We travelled travelled


with our correspondent who has been back to Yemen for a documentary for


Our World. She's come back and here is some what she found.


Yemen has been under constant bombardment for the last 18 months.


A conflict between Houthi rebels and a Saudi-led coalition.


Both sides have been accused of war crimes, but it is the Saudis


that the UK and its western allies are backing.


I was in Houthi-held territory in northern Yemen,


three weeks ago, when a nearby Medecins Sans Frontieres' hospital


This footage was filmed by local residents immediately


after the attack, which ended up killing 19 people.


TRANSLATION: All the patients were at ease, some were sleeping.


There were sleeping children and there were mothers giving birth.


There were no Houthis or any armed people in the hospital only


the doctors and nurses who work here.


At around 4.00pm in the afternoon, patients, doctors, nurses


here could hear aeroplanes flying overhead.


They didn't think it would strike, not only because this


is a residential area, but because this is a hospital.


But an air strike did hit, right over here by the emergency


TRANSLATION: People lost their jobs and homes.


All of this is nothing compared to the loss of people's life.


Who's responsible for what is happening to us?


Saudi Arabia claims that the targeting of the hospital


was a mistake, but MSF insists that all parties to the conflict have


been provided with clear GPS coordinates of the


TRANSLATIoN: It is markings for the coalition to


They were fully aware and we contact them on a daily basis and tell them


of MSF's whereabouts and this logo is painted on the roof


to differentiate this building from all other buildings and yet


19-year-old Amon was a local MS volunteer.


He had just driven his ambulance through the hospital gates


He and the patients in the back of his ambulance were all killed.


TRANSLATION: He came home at 1.00pm to have lunch and went back to work.


At 3.00pm we heard the bombing of the air strike.


I was screaming, "my son, my son, my son."


Someone else said he was in the ambulance,


I found my son underneath the cupboards,


completely burnt, like a piece of coal.


This was the fourth MSF hospital to have been destroyed


The charity has now withdrawn from northern Yemen.


The country's infrastructure has been devastated.


Meanwhile, nearly 4,000 Yemeni civilians have been killed


What is in the committee report? The committee is made up of MPs from


four other select committees, defence, foreign affairs,


international development and business. All the committees


involved in the export of arms. This copy that we've got hold of is a


draft. The committee will meet tomorrow to discuss possible


changes. We don't know what the final language is going to sound


like. As it stands, the report says that the weight of evidence of


violations of international humanitarian law, by the Saudi-led


coalition in Yemen, is now so great that it is very difficult to


continue to support Saudi Arabia while maintaining the credibility of


our arms licencing regime. Now, in the summary it says that given the


scale and the history of UK arms exports to Saudi Arabia it's


"inevitable" that any violations of international law by the Saudi-led


coalition would involve arms supplied by the UK. The fact that


the Government has not supported efforts to establish an independent


international inquiry, the report says, "has allowed for the transfer


of items to Saudi Arabia very possibly in contravention of the


UK's legal obligations while doubt and uncertainty about IHL compliance


in Yemen exists the default position of the UK Government should be not


to sell weapons" to us spend weapon sales. What does the law is a? Where


there is a clear risk items might be used in commission of serious


violation of international humanitarian law. It's whether there


is insufficient evidence to support that, as the Government contends.


This report concludes there is ample evidence. The Government says it has


one of the strictest licencing regimes in the world. Since the


conflict began it hasn't refused a single export licence to Saudi


Arabia. This is what the draft report has to say on the matter. "We


have found that the Government's arms export licencing regime, which


it repeatedly asserts is robust, is in fact, to a large extent, opaque


and the Government too often relies on assertion rather thanes positive


evidence. " What weight does the committee report actually have, will


have, when it comes out? The committee has weight, but it doesn't


have the power to force the Government to change policy. It does


have the power to force it to come and explain itself in front of the


committee. There is another thing going on. There is a legal case, the


campaign group, Campaign Against The Arms Trade, is taking the Government


to court over its arms sales to Saudi Arabia. It will go to judicial


review. There will be a hearing early next year. I spoke to their


lawyers this evening. They have written to the Ministry of Defence


urgently seeking clarification about these assertions that they'd


assessed, the Government had assessed, that Saudi Arabia wasn't


in breach of international humanitarian law. They say that the


Government has apparently placed inaccurate and misleading statements


before the court. They haven't yet heard back. Gabriel, thanks vuch


indeed. -- thanks very much indeed. When the Paralympics


begin in Rio tomorrow the competition will be fierce and,


for the athletes, it will be the culmination of everything


they have worked for. But after the triumph of London


2012, it feels like a key moment for the Paralympics,


with problems over tickets sales, the exclusion of the Russian team


because of a doping scandal, sponsorship issues,


and now the latest - Here's our exclusive


report by Hannah Barnes. From its humble origins as a


competition for injured British servicemen and women after the


Second World War, the Paralympic legacy has gone from strength to


strength. Just 16 people took part in the fist contest in 1948, but


over the next 10 days more than 4,000 athletes will vie for the


medals in Rio. But could there be a problem with the foundations the


Paralympics are built upon It's something that's been going on for


decades. It's the worst kept secret in sport. As with any system of


clarification there will be potential for people to be at the


higher end or the lower end. Increased success and status for the


Paralympics has brought increased scrutiny with questions being raised


about the classification process which determines which category


athletes should be placed in to ensure competition is fair. So, how


does it work? The aim of the classification system is to make


sure that athletes are competing against opponents who have similar


or equal impairments. To start with, there are 10 broad categories that


athletes are assigned to. They include eight physical groups of


impairments, fore, loss of limb or limb deficient i or conditions


common to people with cerebral palsy. On top of these there are two


further groups. Visual impairment and intellectual impairment. Within


those different categories it's broken down further to try to make


things even fairer. Let's take track athletes, for example, who have


cerebral palsies or other neurological conditions that affect


muscle co-ordination and control. Within this group there are eight


separate classes that an athlete can be place in depending on the


severity of their condition. The first four are for athletes who need


a racing wheelchair to compete. The others are for those who compete


standing up. Now, the idea is that as you go through these classes,


they are numbered 31-38 in this case an athletes condition becomes less


severe. Several people, including former medal winning British


Paralympians, have voiced concerns about how the classification process


is working in practice. Both national and international


classification I think it is... It's not fit for purpose. It's not


sufficiently robust. It is too easily manipulated. Michael Breen's


daughter is competing for Team GB in Rio. She was diagnosed with cerebral


palsy as a young child. He complained to UK athletics saying


that classification doesn't appear to be working. When you watch the


Paralympics over the coming weeks, and you see one athlete running


significantly further ahead than the rest of the other athletes, I would


simply say that you should perhaps ask yourself the question - whatever


impairment that particular athlete has, is it the same as the


impairments of the other athletes who are say 20 or 30 meters behind?


UK athletics told Newsnight that his complaint was fully investigated by


them and the International Paralympic Committee and was found


to be without any merit. An email, seen by Newsnight, confirms he


wasn't alone in being worried. Last year Great Britain's head coach


emailed athletes to say she had to deal with parents, coaches and


others who felt discontent about the classifications of some athletes.


Email says that British athletics will have no hesitation in taking


legal action against anyone found to have made basesless allegations in


the public domain. UK athletes insists they were not discouraging


whistleblowers but trying to avoid unsubstantiated allegations being


aired publicly. There are also concerns from people who have been


denied classification. Daniel Brown suffers from complex regional pain


syndrome. After winning gold in archery at both the Beijing and


London Paralympics, she was told by two IPC classifiers,


psychotherapists who she said didn't consult her medical history she was


too able-bodied to compete any more. I went through a whole identity


crisis. I was an elite athlete, I wasn't. I'm a disabled person, and


I'm not disabled enough. I get frustrated doing simple things like


carrying a cup of tea and throwing it yaefr where and I want to say -


why can't they see that and understand my life is affected this


way. It's critical people have faith in


the classification system. You want to know what you're watching is what


you think you're watching. I believe the classification system delivers


that. There will be people who feel unhappy with some of the decision


that is have been made. If people have strong claims they need to


bring the evidence to back up those claims.


Millions of people will tune in and over the next ten days to watch one


of the world's most fiercest fought sporting competitions. Those in


charge of the Games will hope questions over the classification


will not cast too much of a shadow over the event.


A UK Athletics spokesperson told us that...


"Classification of all international para-athletes is handled exclusively


by the International Paralympic Committee.


UK Athletics is confident of the classification of all British


athletes who will be competing in Rio and we always co-operate 100%


with the IPC to ensure that all GB athletes are correctly classified


Where concerns have been raised, UKA has correctly responded


by requesting that the IPC check medical and procedural records


to either ratify or change the athlete's classification."


Joining us from Rio is Doctor Peter Van de Vliet,


he's Medical Director of the International


Good evening. First, do you believe that the system is absolutely


watertight, robust and utterly fair? The system is as fair as it is with


the actual knowledge for the moment. I think it is also fair to say that


we remain very critical and we owe it to our athletes to be very


critical that the system can be improved. And with further our


understanding and our knowledge on the relationship between impairment


and activity limitations on a daily basis and that knowledge needs to


translate in the rules to secure classification for the future. It is


interesting to do acknowledge you do have problems and I wonder about a


system where medical history isn't is taken into account. It is the


effort on the day that is assessed for impairment of whatever degree.


Is that a failing? No. It is very important to make a distinction that


when we look at the relationship between impairment and inactivity,


it is not the race time, it is not the performance in the final result,


it is the key components of the discipline, of the sport the athlete


is participating in. And if classifiers who are certified and


trained for their purpose have reviewed this is something that


might fluctuate a little bit, they tell the athlete in review. So they


observed the athlete on multiple occasions throughout their career.


More broadly, what about the classification? The classification


is done at a national level and I wonder if you are confident that it


is equable across all nations? Because what you are asking is a big


ask of classifiers to have exactly the same rules. Exactly the same


interpretations of the rules. There is a certain degree of diversity


within the nations and it depends on how the nations themselves train


their classifiers. We are working now with the international


federations to ensure that they assist the nations to have a


transparent and standardised approach to classification across


all nations. When an athlete starts competing internationally, the


mandate of classification is transferred to international


classifiers, all trained and certified by the International


Federation responsible. Do you think at the moment there is a problem


with the kind of national level of classification? You seem to be


suggesting there are different approaches and that could perhaps be


improved. That is correct. And that is why we engage now at this very


moment with the national bodies. We have significant investments over


time with national classification expert capacity built up and we are


very happy to engage with all of these twin sure that at the onset of


an athlete's career, they can give guidance to the classification in


the most appropriate way. Finally, we are going to see something


incredible, sporting achievements, over the next 11 days. I wonder if


we see somebody winning by an overwhelming, way ahead of the rest


of the field, the margin is very great, should we be concerned


something is not working correctly? I don't think so. We have all


measures put in place to ensure that those athletes competing here in Rio


have been seen, have been properly classified in the final lead up to


these games. I think what we will see is unique athletic performance,


which is just on the basis of skill, training and very hard work by those


athletes. Thank you very much for joining us tonight.


While the Government and the civil servants are grappling


with the construction of a bespoke Brexit, institutions are having


to divine what it will mean for them and how to deal with uncertainty.


Chief among them, the universities and colleges who have


to plan their intake of undergraduates from the EU.


Our policy editor, Chris Cook, is here with news of


a deal for universities and what the Prime Minister


is planning to do about selective schools, known to you and me


Let's start first with universities, what is happening. Doping The big


thing to remember about universities is they work on three or four year


cycles. Secondly, EU students are treated like British students, they


pay the same fees and they get the same access to loans. At the moment,


today, right now, as of this morning, it has been possible to


apply for it degree at a British university for next year, 2017.


Universities are really worried students from the EU, about 5% of


their student body, will not apply because they do not know the fee


regime potentially in Twenty20 and they are not certain they will have


access to the student loan scheme. So they may run out of money. They


are appealing tomorrow, Dame Julia Goodfellow, the vice Chancellor of


Ghent University and President of universities UK, she is giving a


speech calling on the government to guarantee people with crude for next


year will have the full rights as EU citizens to finish their degrees


Tashkent University. Or there is too much uncertainty? Yes, and they are


worried they will lose students. Universities are great lobbyists in


Whitehall, this is a scream of desperation. And there was news


today from an unexpected source under somebody's about selective


schools. The Prime Minister, we have strong suspicions, wants to bring


back grammar schools to England and that is very difficult because


bringing back grammar schools requires you to change the 1998


education act. It is hard-wired into statute and very difficult to do.


You can see on the screens behind us, there is a senior civil servant,


Jonathan Slater, the permanent secretary at the Department for


education, he walked into Downing Street brazenly holding a piece of


paper revealing a number of things. It does confirm the government does


want to bring back grammar schools and Justine Greening, the Education


Secretary, says these ideas should be presented as an option and should


only be pursued once it is clear we can work with existing grammar


schools to deal with the problems associated with grammar schools.


Namely, the poor kids do worse and rich kids do better. Where does this


leave us? Jonathan Slater's proposal is, why not have a scheme whereby we


introduced the House of Lords a proposal to amend the 1998 education


act only after we have got the grammar schools to work out some


sort of deal whereby they show they can improve the way they perform so


they do not harm social mobility as much. That is what it -- week in the


trade call kicking the tray down the road. Thank you very much indeed.


The Parliamentary Labour Party has, as expected, voted to request


the NEC bring forward a rule change at conference to reinstate elections


to the Shadow Cabinet, a move interpreted by Jeremy Corbyn's


supporters as designed to rein him in should he win


He has countered by suggesting that party members, or party conference,


should elect some members of the Shadow Cabinet team.


In a moment, I'll be speaking to the man who was at the centre


of the battle for the survival of the Labour Party in the '80s,


But first, our political editor, Nick Watt, observed a musical day


Labour may be in the throes of a battle for its soul, but when it


comes to music, the party's reading figures appear to be united in their


taste for retro- chic. Today, Jeremy Corbyn was endorsed by an iconic


band which was the scourge of Thatcherite. Your band, formed in


the late 1970s, during a time of increasing youth unemployment, then


went on to become this iconic name, UB40. But critics couldn't resist


saying winning the endorsement of a bunch of ageing rockers may show how


Jeremy Corbyn's worldview has not changed in three decades. A view


vehemently rejected by UB40. In the end, what we have proved is we were


right to be complaining about what they were doing during the Thatcher


period. They were deregulating the banks, they were selling off houses


and now those are the problems we are dealing with. We were right what


we said then and we are right now, it is obvious. And the band members


are not amused by any suggestion that a split among the original


members of UB40 could provide something of an awkward metaphor for


the future of Labour under a renewed Corbyn leadership. What a great


question! I don't think one has anything to do with the other, do


you? It wasn't really a split, so much as our lead singer left eight


years ago. We still UB40. The party could live on with different people.


Exactly. That is a novel idea. At the event, there was an unusual


sighting, a politician with a genuine interest in the Arts who


loves music when it has a political theme and when it moves him. We


associate music with times in your life. I got to love Caribbean music


in the 1960s when I worked in Jamaica RAF Marham years and that


taught me a thing about original reggae bands -- for eight years. One


is attracted to the music of some who have done great political


things, like Joan buyers with that incredible voice she has got. But


Corbyn's interest in music does have its limits. You secretly jealous of


Ed Balls and would you like to be in that bowtie and Strictly Come


Dancing? Within the confines and seclusion and privacy of this room,


can I let you and perhaps you will tell the others, I have absolutely


no desire whatsoever to go on Strictly Come Dancing! I wish Ed


Balls well. Our strictly star is out in London tonight celebrating the


publication of his memoirs in the presence of his new dance partner


and some once mighty figures in the Labour Party. They cut a small


figure these days, but one of their number, a retired musician, could


not help and barking on something of a battle of the bands. I don't think


there is a particular advantage in linking yourself to a particular


musical form. Let alone one that is about from 30 or 40 years ago. I


think Jeremy is dating himself a bit iffy is looking for UB40. UB40, Read


Read Wine is all I remember. And many of his critics would be saying


that they are hearing whining from Jeremy! I don't believe you. And in


a sign of how bitter this battle has become, Alan Johnson even suggested


that Jeremy Corbyn would have been on the wrong side of one of the


greatest musical debates of the modern era. Jeremy and I think a lot


of his supporters were the people he wanted Bob Dylann to stay with


blowing in the wind. And his harmonica he had around his neck.


And they booed and they jeered him when he brought out the electric


guitar. I was postal electric rather than the pre-electric. -- postal


electric. Our aged politicians know music has moved on since the 1980s.


Rudimentary has endorsed Jeremy Corbyn, perhaps giving him the edge


as Labour's tribes call to a new generation.


Well, with me is Lord Whitty, Larry Whitty, who was General


Secretary of the Labour Party for nine years during the last


Good evening. I wonder what you make of this current war? Well, we've


just seen a gentle film. I'm afraid the current war is pretty vicious.


The two sides seem incapable of reaching any compromise. I think


this slugging each other off has got to stop. I think once this contest


is over, we need to have a real review of where the Labour Party is


going and we need to do that very rapidly otherwise we are in very


serious difficulty. Who do you hold responsible for the state of the


party? Almost everybody. I think... I didn't vote for Jeremy.


I thought Jeremy should have been given more time. I wasn't in favour


of that hand fisted rolling coup we had in July. I also feel that some


of these problems are fairly long-term. We've had two basic


tendencies in the last few years. The leader's office has gained a


leader and the leader's office have gained power which started under


Tony Blair and has continued with Ed Miliband. Talking about Ed Miliband.


When Ed Miliband got rid of the elections to the Shadow Cabinet you


were against that and refused to take part? That wasn't the reason I


refused to take part, I refused to take part with his affiliation - Why


did you refuse to take part, I'm interested? The proposal he had on


the table on how we treat member affiliation and who is the electoral


college I didn't agree with. I still don't agree with it. In part, any


country, any party, has to have checks and balances. There are


different centres of power. Any large party is a coalition. We have


to recognise that. We are getting to a situation where is polarised. If


we get into a position where there are no checks and balances will one


side go. There will have to be a victor that will mean there will be


a split? I don't think we will get to that this. There is hope, at the


end of this contest, whoever wins the party will come to its senses.


Maybe some of the great movers and and shakers will intervene. It may


be them again, it might not. Last time round, the trade unions were on


the side of getting militant out. This time it's not that simple. It's


not that simple. Militant were ill filtrated to the party. We had a


split to the right with the SDLP going. We are in a similar situation


in terms of the way people are treating each other. I think this is


has been am playified because of the existence of social media. We need


to calm down and we need to look at - Is the social media issue can be


laid at Jeremy Corbyn's feet? I don't think it can be entirely led


at one side or the other. There are pretty vicious comments going in


both directions. In general it's been more associated with the


momentum side than with - individuals... You said the Labour


Party has to be for the white working-class. It has to be for the


liberal provesals and ethnic minorities. If it's not for that, do


you think Jeremy Corbyn can win an election? Could you think that


Jeremy Corbyn could be Prime Minister? I think Jeremy Corbyn


could become the Prime Minister if the party can pull it together. We


are not at present on course for that. Whether Owen or Jeremy wins in


a few weeks' time we have to get back on course. My message today is


really - the people who matter in the party, the members, if MPs have


to put this contest behind them and move forward. Thank you very much


indeed, Lord Whitty. The American comedian,


Amy Schumer, is on tour. All over the US, a few dates


in Europe, two in the UK Her screwball no-holds-barred US TV


sketch show, Inside Amy Schumer, has run for four seasons


and picked up two Emmys and an army of fans,


but she won a new audience last year with her self-penned movie,


Trainwreck, which was funny Now, she's written her first book,


a memoir and series of essays, The Girl with the Lower Back Tattoo,


which coincides with her big tour. Emily met her for a


woman-to-woman talk. Amy, it's OK, she grew up


during a different time. Tell him to start mowing the lawn


by the pool so it'll The bit in your book which really


struck a chord with me - and I haven't heard anyone


describe it, I don't think - was the introversion,


that women constantly feel it's up to them to fill the gaps and smooth


over the social awkwardness and just And I'm wondering about the moment


when you suddenly kind of went - oh, don't have to,


don't have to do that? Probably sooner than I


should have. Yeah, it was going to a wedding


with my boyfriend at the time and I just was in, like,


my mid-20s and just was like, I really hate


this and I can't do it. Like, I can't be this social


with this many people for this long. And then getting to a place


where I didn't think something was wrong with me and that I thought


it was OK and that I actually liked, I really liked that I know that


I needed time on my own to recharge. And do you say no


to more weddings now? I mean, they're just


events where you think, I cannot stand that,


I can't be there? I can't do a weekend,


a full weekend wedding. And my friends are still getting


married. Like, why are people


still doing this? You know, it's not just


affairs that are that big. It can be just the smalltalk


with someone in an elevator. Do you ever just say,


I'm just going to be Or I'll say, you know,


I really just can't talk Where is that, is it locking


yourself in a loo, or is it...? I've, like, sat in a Starbucks


bathroom and just sat on the floor Nobody was waiting,


so it wasn't rude. The girl who played me


as a little girl in Trainwreck, she's nine years old,


her name's Devon, and she came up to me at the premiere and she said,


"I overheard my agent tell my mom that my cheeks are too big,


so I don't get a lot of work. But then I thought, well,


my cheeks made me look like you and I'm so grateful


I have these cheeks." And so I just kind of leaned down


and I just said, you know, well, "What does


that mean, Devon?!" You probably go to, you know,


hundreds of awards ceremonies But whenever I do and I'm


kind of stuck there... And you see these speeches and I'm


always struck by the fact that women accept awards and the first thing


they do, quite often, is apologise. They apologise for not being funny,


they apologise for not They apologise for,


you know, this isn't I wonder what you make of that,


how did we get to that place? It's, I think, because so many


people hate women. I'd be on set and I'd want to give


a suggestion to Judd Apatow You talked yourself out


of it. I say sorry a lot less


than I probably should. If you said the name


Hillary Clinton in America, There will be those who love her,


there will be those Well, that's what I'm saying


with the not being informed. Because those people aren't


informed. If you go, why don't


you like Hillary? They'll go, she lied


about her e-mails, what else People get one fact


and that's what they latch I'm like, well, Donald Trump


has a fake college. Donald Trump doesn't


pay his workers. There's never been a nominee who's


ever not released their taxes. I haven't had a conversation


with anyone who doesn't like Hillary where they've had


anything meaningful to say. If it isn't Hillary in November,


does your act change, My act will change because I'll


need to learn to speak Spanish, because I'll move


to Spain, or somewhere. It's beyond my comprehension


if Trump won. The sort of Hollywood


portrayals of sex are very squeaky clean and romantic,


and the Amy Schumer portrayal of sex is that half


the time, it's quite crap. You know, you can be


quite lazy, nothing Yeah, I mean, I don't know the kind


of sex that you're having, but I'm showing the kind of sex that


I mostly have. If it's not, like, sex


within a relationship and you're sleeping with someone new,


most likely, it doesn't go well and something


weird or hurtful happens. And, yeah, there are just


these moments where you question yourself and -


what are you willing You say this is not


a self-help book, but it's You show women how


to masturbate. I had to figure it out


on my own when I was, like, older. Like, guys are jerking off


when they're like, I think, you know, maybe it speeds


them up a couple of years. I remember when I was 18 or 19,


this guy came to visit me. I'd met this guy in Montana


and he was, like, really cute and whimsy and a hiker and he came


and visited me in New York. And in that environment,


he was very gross. I was, like, 19 and -


oh, he flew all the way here, I'll just drink enough that my body


will, like, that I'll Because I felt like I owed him


something. And I think as a young woman,


you might get confused about that. So what I'm saying is,


like, you don't have to do anything you don't want to do and don't feel


you owe someone something.


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