Emily Maitlis with reports on a fresh FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails and a UK court decision on the status of Uber drivers. And could mess be a virtue?
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Clinton lands in Iowa - to news that could be a game changer.
The FBI will investigate additional classified material
In New Hampshire, Trump praises the move.
The news this morning is this is bigger than Watergate. This is
bigger than Watergate. In my opinion. This is bigger than
Watergate. Can it shift the polls with 11
days to go? Uber is forced to pay
drivers the minimum wage. You know, they need to make sure
that they can pay their wages. If everything was so free
and flexible as they said it was, then everything would be totally
anarchic, you know, and people would sometimes carry out work or go
off and do whatever they wanted. We'll hear from a Uber driver who is
not happy about today's court ruling.
A word of encouragement for those who can't even
It's not as if this US election campaign has been boring.
But tonight, it was newly electrified.
The FBI announced it would revisit its investigation
into whether Hillary Clinton had classified information stored
amongst her private emails, as new ones came to light.
No one knows what the new evidence will throw up.
But the timing could not have have been more critical,
throwing an electoral lifeline to Donald Trump.
He's already declared it bigger than Watergate.
It plays into his narrative of her being corrupt.
Democrats have dismissed it as empty noise, and are furious
at what they call a politically irresponsible move.
But many ballots have already been cast, and many minds
have long been made up, so will it shift anyone's vote?
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Thank you all! With 11 days to go until the election, it was beginning
to look like the presidency was Clinton's Toulouse. Hillary Clinton
was on a plane to Iowa with no Wi-Fi when news came through that the FBI
was looking again at her e-mail server. She and her team, as shocked
as the journalists with her, who learned of the News as they touch
down. The accusations have followed her throughout the campaign. Hillary
was ignoring the accusations. Tonight, a fresh investigation into
new e-mails after the FBI seized electronic devices becoming to her
aid, Huma Abedin, and her husband, Anthony Weiner. This is bigger than
Watergate. This is bigger. At the Trump rally in New Hampshire, they
were celebrating a moment that could come in this extraordinary election
saga, turn things around yet again. The latest investigation plays into
a narrative he has worked hard to create, that she is corrupt,
crooked, dishonest. The markets tonight were acting like this was a
game changer, the prospect of it from victory appearing to spook
them. Early voting has opened in many states. 7.3 million Americans
have already voted. For Hillary, the next 11 days might have been a march
to victory on the 9th of November but it remains to be seen out how
the spectre of impeachment while in office could affect our chances.
Well, our diplomatic editor Mark Urban has been out
and about meeting voters in the Southern states, and is now
Talk us through the details of the e-mail investigation itself. From
what we understand, the e-mails were between Anthony Weiner and Huma
Abedin. She, as you know, the vice-chair of the Hillary Clinton
campaign, a key aid during her time in the State Department also. As far
as we understand from leaks coming from the FBI, they don't include
actual e-mails from Hillary Clinton herself. But we can intuit on the
fact that this investigation has been reopened after the FBI said in
July that Hillary Clinton did not have a criminal case to answer,
because there is something that may give them further insight into one
of two things. The fact of having this Private server, which is an
offence under federal law, the type of thing which a junior civil
servant or member of the military subject to high security clearance
might easily have lost their job or even gone to jail for. And then the
actual content. Was classified content bleeding into immune
occasions between Hillary Clinton and her aides? That is the area they
are looking at now and obviously, it is potentially hugely awkward in its
timing for Hillary Clinton and her campaign. I know you have been out
in North Carolina and Virginia, swing state. What kind of impact, if
any, do you think this will have on the boat? The pollsters here -- the
vote. The posters here are quite sure, they say, that phenomena such
as shy Donald Trump supporters have been taken into account in their
complex calculations. A couple of nights ago in a remote part of North
Carolina, we were at a trump event where several thousand people were
queueing for hours to get in. It was quite striking how many people had
come to see him and you wondered, can they really be so confident in
their calculations? But let's assume they are broadly right. We had seen
the race narrowing a little bit, a percentage point or two in the last
day or two in the poll of polls exercises and that is before this
latest news, of course. So I think it is reasonable to expect it might
tighten a little further still but of course, the question, are so many
minds already made up that this isn't going to have a big effect?
Will Hillary Clinton still, going into polling day, have a commanding
lead? Thank you for joining us. Some pretty confident pollsters here.
I'm joined by the Republican Party pollster Frank Luntz,
and from Washington, Mike Czin, a former spokesman
Thank you for joining us. It sounds as if the FBI director had no choice
but to release this information once new e-mails came out. Do you agree?
I'm very confused as to why this came out now and how it came out. I
think if the FBI is going to look into it, they have a responsibility
to share with the American people, 11 days before the election, more
than they have shared today. We know Hillary Clinton has been interviewed
and has made herself available to the FBI for hours, congressional
Republicans have spent god knows how much taxpayer money looking into
this. Just a couple of months ago, they did not have a reason to move
forward beyond that, the FBI. Why this is happening now and why there
isn't more information is troubling. But I do think what your
correspondent was saying earlier, people are voting. This information
has been out there. Will it move votes at the end of the day? Maybe
around the margins but I think as more and the faster the information
gets out there, the best it is for Hillary Clinton to move past this.
Let me try to understand, do you think there was political motivation
behind this? Do you think the FBI gave way to trump's demands? Is
their anger amongst Democrats tonight? I think there is more
frustration and confusion as to what the FBI is doing is moving forward.
I think they have a responsibility, 11 days before the election. It is
totally unprecedented to tease this information. They have a
responsibility to review this and share the information. So voters can
make up their minds. But I think many of these questions have been
asked and answered by Hillary Clinton. What is going on? I can't
believe it, I thought it was a joke. I was at the Thames and several
people came up to me and asked if I had heard it had happened and I
thought it was a ruse. There's no way the FBI would do this with 11
days to go, no way unless they thought there was a serious problem.
They already had issues with what Clinton did but they said there was
no reason to go further, no reason to prosecute her. For them to open
it up now, my God, there is something there. With Wikileaks
releasing information every day about the foundation and the e-mails
and the communication between Clinton and her allies and her
campaign people, it is painting a picture that she can't be happy
with. From what Mark was saying, they don't even concern e-mails she
wrote. How can it be that big if it is not from her? Because the
question becomes, did she tell the truth in her testimony? Were things
that were part of her server exposed? The issue here is not just
about e-mails. It is whether or not her testimony will stand up. Mike?
Frank makes it sound like e-mails that have been hacked by Russia to
benefit Donald Trump is somehow an indication of guilt on Hillary
Clinton's part, which I think is an absurd premise. Hillary Clinton said
e-mails and so did her aides. We all do. The fact Russia has fact that
and is trying to sway the election, that is the Watergate. Donald Trump
said this is Watergate half a dozen times today but I think this is
unprecedented, the way that the director had a press conference to
address this issue this summer was equally unprecedented. You just said
twice, Russia hacked, because it tried to undermine what happened.
For the voter, they don't care how it was obtained. They want to know,
are the candidates telling the truth? I agree with the people
before me. This is not likely to have a major impact because it is so
close to election day. However, the fact the FBI director, who the
Democrats had said handled this investigation the way it should be
done, the fact is, he's opening it up and that is remarkable. Mike,
would you agree that whatever is in the e-mails, it leaves the door
ajar, something people thought was done and dusted isn't? That is
worrying when you are choosing a candidate for president. Listen, I
think that e-mail is being reviewed by the FBI 11 days out with this
announcement is very odd. I think it's important that the information
gets out as quickly as possible, while they review it. But again,
these are not e-mails from Hillary Clinton. We don't know what is in
them. The FBI did not say they are opening up their investigation. They
are going to be reviewing these documents to see if they are
consistent with what the countless man-hours they have put into this
investigation already. The other thing is, and I think Frank is
right, this probably won't sway things because people are voting.
There's very few relative numbers of people who are undecided. The
greatest weakness is integrity. You could say, lots of people say the
FBI is responding to pressure from Donald Trump. Donald Trump doesn't
intimidate anyone. The fact is, the fact he says this could be bigger,
this is bigger than Watergate actually hurts his case because then
it politicises something that the FBI has explicitly not politicised.
I want to emphasise to people watching tonight that the FBI is
beyond politics. Everyone has said so on both sides. But why have they
done this now? Why would you get involved right now? You never would,
the FBI director hates partisan politics and he did not want to do
this. Clearly, there is something there that is so significant that he
has decided that he has no choice. That is why this is there. We don't
know that. That's not what he said. That is putting words in his mouth.
We don't know what it is, we only know there are e-mails and what that
is, who they are with, what the content is, is unknown. Mike, you
were a spokesman for president Obama. What would you be advising
the Clinton campaign now and Hillary Clinton to do? There are two things,
it is in the best interest of the FBI, the American people and the
campaign for them to have a full airing of what this is. But I think
the second part is, Donald Trump thinks this is his Hail Mary pass,
that will help sway the election. You really need a proactive vision
and something to campaign on, not just hope that there will be some
kind of e-mail that will help sway the election which I don't think is
going to happen. This has nothing to do with Donald Trump and everything
to do with the Secretary of State. I will tell you, the Clinton campaign,
you can hear it in his voice, the Clinton campaign is really scared
the night. I think we will revisit this. Thank you for joining us.
The Uber website calls on its drivers to Drive When You Want -
Which all sounds fine, until they don't.
Today, a landmark ruling at the Employment Tribunal told
The taxi company will now have to pay drivers a minium
wage and holiday leave - to treat them, in other words,
as employees, not freelancers who work for a brand.
For the two drivers who brought the case, it's a clear victory.
But the impact of the ruling is huge, sending a warning
to all disruptive technology firms that business cannot come
But will this also have unintended consequences,
marking the moment the radical business model stopped being quite
You pick what to play, even whether to play,
For many workers, though, self employment is nowhere near as clear
Uber insists that its drivers are self-employed but in a
potentially far-reaching judgment, an employment tribunal
Solicitors for two Uber drivers who brought the test case
I think it's a massive deal actually because you know this is the way
We're seeing that companies in the so-called gig economy are often
mislabelling, we say, their workers as self-employed.
And actually, we're saying they are not
self-employed, they are workers, so other companies that
are structuring their business in this way will now
need to look at those arrangements because they are at risk of a
Working individuals fit into three broad categories.
The self-employed, which Uber insisted
included its drivers, do not enjoy any significant employment rights.
However, the tribunal said they were in fact workers.
That means they have some rights, like being paid
the national minimum wage, holiday pay, and pension contributions,
These have extra rights on top, like maternity and paternity pay,
statutory notice for dismissal, redundancy payments and protection
The employment tribunal came up with 13
characteristics of the way Uber drivers work that means, it said,
For a start, Uber drivers do not know
who it is that they will be picking up or indeed
where they want to go when
they accept a job on the app platform.
And, if, finding out those things, they decide they no longer
want the work and they cancel, well Uber can log them off and prevent
There are plenty of other companies who
will be looking at this judgment carefully.
Next month, Maggie Dewhurst is taking the courier
company CitySprint to a similar tribunal.
I don't think anyone really believe that they themselves
are running a business in the true sense of the word, where you can
expand, you can get other people to
I work for CitySprint, I do the work that CitySprint tell
Uber drivers work for Uber, they carry out the
If everything was so free and flexible
as they said it was, then everything
People would sometimes carry out work or go
off and do whatever they wanted but
According to the Resolution Foundation there are
now 4.8 million self-employed people in the UK.
That's one in every seven working people.
However their earnings have fallen an average of ?60 a week over
I think it's partly a story brought to the fore by these
tech platforms that have changed the way
in which lots of businesses are
organising their workforces, but I think in terms
ramifications go far beyond workers in the so-called gig economy.
Many self-employed workers are construction workers, in education,
in consultancy, driving a white van, and for all these types of workers,
how their living standards and their rights are
secured, is brought into
And that's why it's really welcome that
the government has already said it is looking at atypical forms of
employment and how the world of work is changing.
Much of these new ways of working have been driven by
technology, and ultimately technology may provide
the solution, though not necessarily in a way we like.
Robots replacing couriers, and Uber itself
There will be no issue about whether a robot or a computer is
Joining me now, Labour MP and shadow minister Chi Onwurah,
from Newcastle, and Steven Rowe, who was driving for Uber
Thank you for joining us. , Chi. Steven, are you pleased with this
development? Absolutely not. I don't understand what it is about. Because
I am self-employed I get benefits, I can work one I want, start one I
want, stop and I want, I have total flexibility. It never occurred to me
over the last four years, it is four years that I've been using the Uber
app, that I would get holiday pay sickbay. Is the job where your money
comes from? Yes, although I working on other projects which are
developing, the great thing about Uber is that you can work on your
own projects which might not bring in income straightaway... You
exceptional, what would you say to the people who say, this is
terrible, I should be getting a proper wage, I'm not making as much
money as I could? We are not employed by Uber. We are not paid a
wage. It's always been that way. Taxi drivers are self-employed, they
have been since time a memorial. They all using the Halo app. Will
that mean that they are all employed by Halo? Chi Onwurah, how do you
respond? It is good for Uber and it is good for Steven. Steven, I am
pleased that you feel you are in control of your work and I am sure
that is good feel but there are 40,000 Uber Uber drivers and what
this ruling says is that they don't have the kind of control of how they
get their jobs, what they are paid, and whether they can refuse a job.
That constitutes self-employment. We have to take our hats off to the GM
Beaver showing what a modern union does which is stand up for the
rights of working people -- the GMB, for showing, and how they are
transformed in the new digital environment. Steven, would it make
things harder for you? Absolutely, it's regressive. The world is
changing. People have more than one job and employment law should
reflect that. Chi Onwurah, if you are stifling entrepreneurship and
making these disruptive technologies feel they should behave like John
Lewis, a Conservative shop, you are stopping people from coming forward
with new projects? Liverpool I am not sure John Lewis is conservative,
it is more a corroborative. This is good Uber. I am a tech evangelist, I
worked in telecoms three years before coming into Parliament and it
can make hugely progressive difference to all our lives. But the
kind of power and control, this judgment is important in the detail,
it showed that Uber drivers got around to drivers and they had jobs,
how quickly they responded, effective performance management. If
you have that kind of control others and body then you have
responsibilities to them. And I think too often people who implement
this great new technology which can change lives for the better, they
forget there are still responsibilities in the real world
to the people who are delivering bad. You are working for a big
corporate giant. No, I'm working for myself. I can choose whether to
accept a job, choose one I want to work. I'm not working for a
corporate giant. In my view, that big corporate giant is working for
me. They are getting the work, collecting the money, they take a
percentage of it. What will happen because of this ruling? I'm really
worried because I can't see how Uber can carry on working in the way
setup. Can they take on everyone as a salary? That will mean
redundancies, lay-offs. If you can call it bad. Uber will have to adapt
its business model to reflect the fact that the Labour they are using,
the people, and Steven, if he rejects a job that's part of his
performance management by Uber and they have the ability to deactivate
him in 20 seconds. You could be deactivated. I don't know why people
would turn down jobs because you are there to earn money. I think my
acceptance rate was about 96%. Fantastic for Steven but other
people might have commitments, they might have care responsibilities,
and bonuses. The important thing here is that Uber needs to recognise
that the Labour which helps deliver its $62 billion worth of market
value, that Labour has rights and it will be better, Uber will be at off
as a company if it respects and values the people that work for it
and this judgment should help it do that. Chi Onwurah, Steven Rowe,
thank you both very much. "A tidy desk", the comedy
Christmas mug states, The joke only works, I suppose,
if the mug itself is also covered in mildew and belongs
to the perennially untidy. But what if mess were
actuallly good for the mind? What if all our attempts
at orderliness actually made us less Sighs of relief the world over
from the chronically messy. Here's Tim Harford,
who's been writing about Is the road to success
in life a neat, tidy one? Or is a rich, happy
life inherently messy? If you believe the glossy
magazines, this... We feel proud when we have a tidy
desk, and anxious when the But we all know that
when things get busy, Messiness isn't just part of life,
it can actually enhance our lives. We'll come back to my
messy desk later. First, let me show you what mess can
do for the true greats. In 1975, the jazz musician
Keith Jarrett was preparing one of his improvised
piano concerts in the city of An old rehearsal piano had been
delivered to the stage, out of tune, sticky keys, harsh, tinny upper
notes and too small for the concert But Jarrett felt he
had to try, and so, in front of a packed
auditorium, he sat down All the adjustments that Jarrett had
to make to cope with the unplayable piano made the music better, not
worse. Against his gloomy expectations,
Jarrett produced one of the greatest jazz
performances in history. Jarrett was forced into that
situation, but other artists have decided to actively
embrace disruption. Brian Eno has worked with everyone
from Coldplay to David Bowie. In musical circles, he is famous
for a deck of cards he calls If you're stuck, pull
out a card and let the I don't generally pick
more than one at a time, so the point is to, sort
of, be faced with the dilemma of trying to deal with the card,
whatever it happens to say. All these do is sort
of structure your And they say, "Put some
attention here and People are at their most
alert when they are So alertness is where
everything good comes from, It's when you suddenly
think, "Wow, now that's And you used these cards
on David Bowie's album, We used to play a game sometimes
where we would start something new, either
I would start something or he would, and then
we would both pull a card His was, "Destroy nothing
and continue with immaculate And mine was, "Take away
the most important thing". So whatever started to become
centre of the piece, I would try to take it out!
the piece was, he would try to keep endowing it with more of that
that was a piece called Moss Garden.
Another way to tap into your creative side is to improvise.
Neuroscientists can peer inside the brains
of improvising musicians and rappers using an FMRI scanner.
They see areas of the prefrontal cortex
Other areas that allow self-expression become active.
The improvising brain allows the mess
of unfiltered, risky ideas to flow out.
Mess can also be wielded as a weapon.
Some of the most skilled competitors deliberately create
They figure that they can improvise a response
to the chaos faster than their opponents.
Like to punch him in the face, I'll tell you.
They are bringing drugs, they are bringing crime.
Total and complete shutdown of Muslims
Donald Trump was a master of mess during
He dominated the news agenda with his
outlandish statements, leaving his opponents
We're talking about a constant flow of new
To deal with it, some of us are pilers and
The filers try to tidy away e-mails and documents
before they've really had a chance to understand them.
We happy-go-lucky pilers, in contrast,
allow our messy desks to organise themselves.
And every once in a while, you can just take that useless lower
layer and put it in the only filing cabinet
So what better way to ease into your weekend than with a stunning view
of dawn on the Dorset coast, captured by photographer
The Jurassic Coast is known for many things, but not
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Emily Maitlis with reports on a fresh FBI investigation into Hillary Clinton's emails and a UK court decision that rules Uber drivers have the right to be classed as workers rather than self-employed. Plus a look at whether mess could be a virtue.