With Kirsty Wark. The Home Affairs Select Committee releases a damning report on the child abuse enquiry. Plus interviews with the Italian foreign minister and a doctor in Aleppo.
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A month ago, this programme revealed that the most senior lawyer
on the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse
was alleged to have sexually assaulted a colleague,
but was allowed to resign with no investigation -
Tonight, a committee of MPs has passed its judgment on how
the inquiry handled the claim and it's damning.
how damaged is the inquiry and can it ever win back the trust of those
It's important to us because it's about us.
It's supposed to be about what happened to us.
So excluding us and dismissing us, and letting us see you treat other
victims really badly, is scaring us.
The Chair of the committee joins us live.
Rebel-held Aleppo no longer has a working operating hospital.
This brave little girl has been tweeting the world
We hear from a doctor in the city who is still desperately
Please, do anything to my children, anything to my wife.
Please, do anything to save them", and I can't do anything.
To boldly clean where no man has cleaned before.
The mess in space and the plan to spring clean the solar system.
Last month this programme reported on disturbing
developments inside the troubled Independent Inquiry
The inquiry's most senior lawyer was alleged to have sexually
assaulted a colleague, but was allowed to resign
The senior lawyer robustly denied the allegation and the inquiry
insisted it had not received any complaint about such an incident.
But tonight, a committee of MPs has sharply criticised the inquiry,
saying its response to the disclosure of the alleged sexual
assault, as well as allegations of bullying, was inadequate.
It would be a troubling charge for any organisation,
but it is especially so for one that was meant to be
investigating just such failings in other organisations.
So, can it now rebuild its credibility?
It's job is to shine light into dark corners of our past and present. But
tonight the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse was accused by
MPs of fail to properly investigate a claim of sexual assault under its
own roof. Tonight, Newsnight can reveal that the inquiry faces its
potentially most challenging criticism yet. It was an allegations
broadcast by Newsnight, four weeks ago. Tonight, the Home Affairs
Select Committee warned the inquiry's failure to proper
investigate itself was so serious that it threatened its able to judge
others. We do not believe that they have taken seriously enough its
responsibility to pursue allegations of bullying or disclosures of sexual
assault within the inquiry. One of the inquiries key purposes is to
assess other organisations procedures for dealing with
disclosures of sexual assault or abuses of power and institutional
reluctance to deal with difficult issues that might jeopardise their
reputation. We believe it's extremely important the inquiry can
show it treats these issues with appropriate rigour when they affect
IICSA itself. Professor Alexis Jay announced an independent review. She
said... I think there has been a lack of
transparency and, for an inquiry that at its heart is all about
undercovering conspiracies of silence and things being swept under
the carpet and by public bodies not properly investigating serious child
sex abuse, it's really vital that the inquiry itself is as upfront and
transparent as it can be. So these stories about who did what to whom
and when and how, within the inquiry, are not absolutely
strategic to the work of the inquiry itself, but are seriously damaging
in the way they've been gaining the headlines and overhanging the work
of that inquiry. It's a very serious and unhelpful distraction.
Newsnight's report in October revealed the inquiry had dropped an
investigation into its most senior lawyer, Ed Miliband. This, despite
being made aware of of a claim of sexual assault against him. A claim
Mr Ed Miliband strongly denies. -- Mr Emerson denies. He resigned. It
was agreed he would carry on working for the inquiry for a further two
months when MPs asked, answers didn't come. Why was Mr Emmerson
suspended? I cannot discuss anything to do with his circumstances. Of all
the criticism of the inquiry today, arguably the most came in a letter
sent by the MPs from the man who had been his deputy. Hue Davies QC is an
expert in safeguarding. He had never said anything publicly about the
inquiry and the inquiry had told him not to engage with the MPs. Mr
Davies ignored them and he accused the inquiry of a cover-up.
You can see how an organisation will say, look, things happen on our
premises. If the two individuals concerned are not going to make a
complaint, it's not going to go any further. On the other hand, an
organisation has these days an object ply gays to provide safe and
appropriate working conditions. It can't condone misbehaviour on its
premises. It should look into what happened to see whether its behaving
as it needs to to safeguard the concerns of people who work there.
It can't just cover the whole thing up because there hasn't been a
formal complaint. MPs agreed. The lack of preparedness to account
for something that's gone on, slightly hiding behind HR, keyses,
this is an internal matter we will deal with, I'm afraid aren't good
enough. Because of the publicity you are surrounding this, they do need
to account for what has gone on. The criticism didn't end there. The
inquiry accused of not yet doing enough to support the abused.
We want to see the inquiry, we don't want it to stop. We want it to
succeed, but we want it to be right. It's important to us because it's
about us. It's supposed to be about what happened to us. If you want our
faith and confidence, all you have to do is be straight and transparent
with us and do what you say you're going to do. So far you really
haven't done that. Release tonight letters between senior figures on
the inquiry and the Home Affairs Select Committee. Those letters show
an inquiry fighting for it is independence, resentful of elements
of the scrutiny MPs have put them under. The tonight's report has
prompted a personal apology from the Chair of the inquiry, to victims and
survivors of abuse. An apology for the anxiety caused by recent events.
The inquiry is battling to retain the support of survivors of abuse.
Bitter experience means many of them fear institutions will always tend
to sweep embarrassing issues under the carpet. That is why how the
inquiry handled their own matters so much.
We asked for a representative from the inquiry and from the Home
Office, but no-one was available. The Chair of the Home
Affairs Select Committee Peter Knox QC, from 3
Hare Court Chambers worked as junior Rosie Cooper, ir first of all, what
shocked you the most? I think it was the complete lack of transparency
and both about the - how they handled allegations of bullying and
of sexual assault disclosures but also more widely the resistance to
any form of of scrutiny. They are an independent inquiry. Their work is
vital. We want this inquiry to be effective, but in order to do so,
given all of the problems they've had, there has to be much more
transparency about what's gone wrong. I want to talk about that in
a minute. Two Chairs so far. Lead counsel, junior counsel, seven
lawyers gone or going. The biggest survivor group has pulled out.
Today, as you said, defensive and slow, not responding to the
inquiries. How much worse could it actually get? Well, I think that's
the issue that they need to deal with. They need to address to get it
back on track. We set out some specific things that they need to do
as well as the the more general things they need to do in order to
deal with this otherwise they won't be able to build the confidence that
people need. What about the position of the Chair, Alexis Jay? I think
this is all got... Become too much focused on - can we solve everything
by changing Chairs each time. This is the fourth Chair. We have lost,
you know, Chairs along the way. If you just think this can be solved by
just changing the Chairs it's missing the point. We didn't look
specifically at the issue of the Chair, we looked at the wider issues
around the inquiry, around the way it has got this culture of
defensiveness it has built up and what are the things it needs to do
to turn it round. The question Alexis Jay is a question of
leadership. It is striking that after our report, when we approached
the inquiry, about these allegations of bullying and sexual assault, what
they said was flat out - no complaint. Not even disclosure. As
far as they were concerned they claimed they knew nothing about it?
The most disturbing thing was not what they said formally, it was the
report, the unatrickitied report to an inquiry source reported in the
newspaper being very, very dismissive of the whole thing. What
we said, they should have done more to distance themselves from that
source and that briefing as well. Do you think the inquiry was straight
with the Select Committee and the public about Ben Emmerson's
departure? We don't know what theishing ises were. Actually, in
the en, it's not our position as the committee to go into the detailed
allegations and what exactly happened. You have to hold it up to
the light, don't you? That should be done by somebody else. It will be
done by somebody else? Exactly. We called for an an external person to
come in and look at this case. That could provide more transparency that
they have followed procedures properly, they have actually taken
seriously their responsibility to deal with allegations of bullying.
Do you think that will be enough? Some of the big survivor groups are
not having anything to do with this inquiry until this is sorted out?
That is the responsibility on the inquiry to deal with this now. But I
think it'ses not just the inquiry into the bullying allegations. Can
you not have unresolved bullying allegations in an institution that
has a responsibility... Not why... It's kind... I wonder if, in the
end, it's going to be possible to put it back together again and get
the trust of people again? Who is going to scrutinise it? That's the
other interesting point. The inquiry has to be independent. It was set up
to be independent as part of establishing its credibility. You
wouldn't expect people to question the conclusions it comes to or the
truth finding it does, but there has to be some scrutiny of its approach,
of the processes and the approach it takes, particularly when so much has
gone wrong. That's the role that we have tried to play. And public
money? Yes. To hold it to an account that doesn't challenge the
independence of the content of their work and the work they do to
investigate, but does say - look, you have to be accountable to
someone. Do you want to see the inquiry split into a judicial
inquiry and a social services investigation? I think that is one
option. Because the inquiry is so broad, in scope, I think that's been
one of its challenges for each of the four Chairs, it has been a
challenge as to you how to focus it most effectively. We came across
this unresolved tension between those who want a judicial approach
to past events - With a judge? Not necessarily. But someone who can
approach that forensic. Get to the truth approach, it could be a judge,
it could be somebody else. Separately an approach to child
protection policies today where we know there are considerable
failures. Those are two different kinds of approaches to two different
sorts of things. There has been a tension and people worried that one
is going to dominate the other. That they are not it actually going to
get to the truth. We have to be absolutely clear about this, who
this is awful for is the survivors? Exactly. That is who it has to be
for to deal with the cover-ups that have never been challenged and the
abuse that scars people today. Law very much. -- thank you very much.
You are an experienced lawyer and were involved in the enquiry into
the death of David Kelly, why do you think this has ran into so much
trouble? There are two major problems, firstly the remit is
impossibly wide. A lawyer looks at that remit and then she must be
joking, it is to enquire into whether state institutions and
non-state institutions have required the duty of care to children under
protection without limit in time, it could go back 40, 50, 60 years. The
other problem is there is no time limit in which the report has to be
made. If you have a time limit of say coming back within a year then
the people conducting the inquiry can say we can only carry out this
wide remit within a certain sphere, the intention is that it's a white
sphere and that has caused a lot of problems. So far we have lost seven
lawyers, why is that? We have not been told the exact reasons, that is
part of the problem. But as a lawyer all I can say is it virtually
inconceivable that lawyers would resign from the inquiry. Really? I
think one thing which is very striking is that there is no
provision to work out what happens when you have this position. The
reason for that is it just doesn't happen, normally. That is the
problem which the home affairs committee came across, everyone
effectively clammed up and said I am sorry, I cannot tell you any more.
But on the question of, this is what lawyers are meant to do isn't it?
Uncover injustice. So therefore this is actually, it's a very big job for
lawyers who presumably don't walk away lightly because the very people
they are trying to help are inevitably let down. Once you take
on a brief that is it, you do it. You may not want to take it on and
if you have reasons for not doing so you can, but a case like this I can
understand why someone might say I cannot commit five years of my life
to doing it. But I think once you have you are duty bound to carry on
and it takes the most serious circumstances to drop out. Do you
think it is fixable? What do you think can be done? I don't know but
I guess the sensible way forward would be to terminate this inquiry
and start a new one on a narrower basis with a time limit with which
the report has to be made and I think I'm not the only lawyer who
said that. I have seen other people suggesting it as well. Thank you
both very much indeed. The UN announced today that its aid
team in Syria has received written approval from rebels in the besieged
opposition-held parts of the city of Aleppo to allow aid
in and evacuate the wounded. No food or medical supplies have
entered East Aleppo, which is home to some
275,000 people, since July. Bana Alabed is a seven-year-old girl
who's been tweeting from East Aleppo The heartbreaking pictures
and footage she's been sharing have gained her over 90,000
Twitter followers. According to the UN,
by the end of October, government-led air strikes had
killed more than 700 citizens in the east of this city,
whilst rocket fire had left Before the war, travellers
to Aleppo would have read in their guidebooks
about a beautiful The street speaks a rhythm
of sounds, from horse-drawn carts over cobblestones to the more
frenetic pace of donkey riding couriers, still the fastest way
through the atmospheric labyrinthine souq, that's fragrant with olive
soap, exotic spices, roasting coffee Today, the city is almost razed
to the ground. After a three-week moratorium,
the assault on the area has resumed. The bombardment has left the streets
deserted and people trying The Syrian Observatory
for Human Rights says the strikes have been so massive that residents
are frightened to use The last operating hospital
in Eastern Aleppo has been destroyed, leaving up to 250,000
residents of rebel-held districts without access
to surgery or specialist care. Earlier, I spoke to
a surgeon in the city, I asked him what the
situation was like there. Aleppo right now is completely under
siege and under shelling. There are more than 2000 shells in 24 hours,
including parachute rockets and shells and barrel bombs and a lot of
weapons actually. The whole situation, actually, it is a
holocaust here in Aleppo. You say it is a Holocaust, tell me the kind of
injuries you are seeing? As a surgeon I see all the casualties.
They are shelling, the patients are full of fragments and shrapnel from
head to toe. There are a lot of children and women, they are all
casualties, they are civilians. You have a lot of people but you are
seeing who need medical help but what can you actually do for them
now? Actually, as you know, all trauma centres and all trauma
hospitals have been destroyed completely. They are out of service.
Now we don't have an operation room so we can't do anything to the
patients. All patients and all casualties will be, will die. Or
they will die later, because we don't, we cannot do anything. All we
can do is such a small incision. Doctor, you send us pictures of the
most desperate injuries which were too desperate for us to show. From
your point of view as a doctor how frustrating is this that you have so
little we are able to do? The most difficult moment to me, to a
surgeon, I am a surgeon and I cannot do anything for these patients are
these casualties. The patient's family appeal me and they say,
please, doctor, please do anything for my children, anything to my
wife, do anything to save them and I cannot do anything. They cry and I
cried. Is there any chance you can get any of these children out? We
plead, the international community, the Security Council, the United
Nations, all the free world and Britain is one of them, England is
one of them, we plead, we appeal them, open humanitarian corridor and
entered humanitarian aid. And change the medical staff, medical staff are
so tired. We are exhausted. We need evacuation of wounded and injuries
and complicated cases. If there was a humanitarian corridor which got
some people out over a short time span would you go would you stay to
help the ones who are left behind? It's a big question, actually. I am
a surgeon. Health care worker here, to see these patients, to save these
people, I cannot go and leave all the civilian people here in Aleppo.
Do you accept this is the death of Aleppo, the death of the city you
are facing? We do not want to die here. There is not any fuel, any
electricity or food, that is not any baby milk. There is not any fruit,
there is no electricity generator. It's a horrible situation. A surgeon
in Aleppo. The Chancellor, Philip Hammond,
has spent the day defending Touring the studios this morning
with the message that he's taken the first steps to ensure the UK
economy is prepared for Brexit. He may have to go further to placate
families who are struggling This afternoon, the Institute
of Fiscal Studies published data suggesting the outlook for wages
is "dreadful" and that workers will earn less in real terms in 2021
than they did in 2008. Also, it predicts,
the biggest losers will be... Yes - those lower income families
the government has been Our political editor,
Nick Watt, is here. Pretty dramatic sounding
intervention? Absolutely, by Paul Johnson, a former Treasury civil
servant, quite a cautious man using strong language, dreadful. They have
produced a graphic, look at this. If you look, let's get it up on screen,
there it is, look at that red line along the bottom, that is average
earnings and it is bumping along and that is showing what you are saying,
even by 2021 wages will not have recovered with a where in 2008 at
the beginning of the global financial grass. -- crash. We can
look at this any historical context, this has been produced by the
resolution foundation and look at the far right, look at that red
depth. Forecast at Autumn Statement 2016. Paul Johnson is saying we have
not seen this since the Second World War and he also makes the point that
some, although not all of this, has been caused by the consequences of
the Brexit referendum. So what do the government say? It is not great
for Theresa May, she said the Autumn Statement be aimed at those just
about managing and I think what this shows is that it is 2-1 to Philip
Hammond. He directed some measures towards those people but most of the
spending in the Autumn Statement was about boosting infrastructure, that
is where the megabucks went. If we look at that graphic again, Theresa
May has a point in one of the things she said today, we are doing some
measures, look at the national living wage, look at that blue line,
up it goes. It is denoted beer because it has to get to ?9 by 2020.
But I'm hearing an echo from the Treasury, a bit of a told you so in
the direction of the Brexit crowd but they are seeing it under their
breath because they know that the Eurosceptic Tories are turning their
fire at the moment on the experts, the officer budget responsibility,
and they wonder when it might be their turn. But let's end on a
health warning. Forecast? Sometimes they are wrong. Thank you very much
indeed. The issue of sales of Prosecco
was exercising Boris Johnson when he met the Italian Economy
Minister. Our Foreign Secretary opened that
Italy would want to grant Britain access to the EU because Italy
wouldn't want to lose out on sales of the fizz -
which we apparently drink Mr Calenda shot back that the UK
would sell fewer fish and chips. "I'll sell less Prosecco
to one country. The serious side to this is that
we're relying on countries to engage with the Foreign Secretary to sure
Brexit goes smoothly. We know that the Chancellor
and the Prime Minister seem to take great delight
in ripping Boris Johnson. Earlier this evening,
I spoke to the Mr Johnson's Italian counterpart, Paulo Gentiloni,
and asked about the future of Europe, populism and how
seriously he took our I started asking if he had
confidence in Britain's Brexit negotiation team. As far as I know
there is different roads in the UK Government. We are now in our
waiting position. I am sorry about that but this is the only thing that
we can do in the EU. There may be no formal negotiations but we know the
Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson had a conversation with your colleague,
the economy minister and Boris Johnson said Italy would grand
Britain access to the EU single market because you do not want to
lose per sec or imports. He is right isn't he? --
Boris was joking a little on that subject but the issue is does the UK
want to remain in the single market? It is rather strange that if you
want to remain in the single market you vote for a leave in the
referendum. But if the UK wants to remain in the single market we are
happy. Obviously the single market has rules. Unfortunately there is no
cherry picking. Let's look at Italian politics, you're having a
referendum on the constitution and your government is one of the few
central left governments in the EU and by Minister Matteo Renzi is
trying to tap into the anti-politics going around just now, Donald Trump
talked about draining the swamp and Matteo Renzi says he is not going to
remain in the swamp. Why is he looking to Donald Trump for
direction and inspiration? Well, I assure you he is not looking to
Donald Trump as an inspiration. They use the same language. Obviously
not. Absolutely not. If you mean that the Prime Minister having a
language and values completely different and common to the European
centre-left has also a special characteristic to be a young and
antiestablishment leader, yes, you are right. And yet that would be
exactly what the populist movements are saying, that they are the ones
who are antiestablishment, you have your own 5-star movement, there is
popular is in Hungary and France and Sweden. For sure we have a populist
movement as we all have in Europe. I am rather confident that these
populist movement in Italy will not be considered a movement capable to
have, to offer an alternative as a government.
This is I think the specific strength of our position.
We are a government force, pro-Europe, very serious
in its reform and its position, but also, understanding
what our public opinion want to be changed in the establishment,
If the central left is not aware of the changes that are necessary
in the globalisation and in the establishment,
I think that they risk, the centre left risk
Do you fear for the future of Europe?
Yes, because I think that if Europe is not able to give answers,
especially to two main subjects, one is economic growth and the other
These two issues are so urgent that if there is no European answer,
I think that Europe is seriously risking.
But we have now also a chance, after Brexit, Brexit was also
But, finally, first the UK, who'll be next to want out?
I think that UK's already sufficient.
It's a very important country and I don't think
we will have someone next, at least I hope.
Paulo Gentiloni, thank you very much indeed.
If you've ever thought, "I'll get round to cleaning that up later",
then imagine the job that scientists are facing.
Space debris is at crisis point and there's so much of it
floating around the Earth, that future missions
So, with a new era of satellite technology ready to be launched,
Our science correspondent, Rebecca Morelle, has been looking
at how to give the Earth's orbit a spring clean.
It's incredible to think that we've been space bound
We've achieved amazing advances, made countless scientific
discoveries and made the world more connected than ever before.
But for every advance, we've left something behind - waste.
So if we want to keep on blasting off into orbit,
The space around our planet is so full of rubbish orbiting
at menacingly high speeds, it's seen as a threat to future missions.
Space debris is made up of lots of things,
but any space mission, any space craft, can
Many people would say that low Earth orbit has already exceeded the kind
of capacity that it has for space junk and that we'll see
I think the evidence for that is a bit uncertain,
but it's nonetheless something that we really need to take
Low Earth orbit is about to get even more crowded.
This is Clyde Space in Glasgow, one of several companies
spearheading a new satellite revolution, were size matters.
This little thing is the size that we're talking about,
it's 10 centimetres cubed, and it's transforming
They're not only designed to be small, but plentiful.
Cost effective missions will see hundreds of them in orbit, working
together in vast constellations and bringing great benefits.
CubeSats are going to help change our understanding
of the planet so we can take an image of the Earth every day,
but also data from moisture content of the atmosphere.
We'll be looking at the temperature of the oceans in a lot more detail.
This will give them much better understanding of actually what's
But there are concerns about CubeSats becoming
And with so many joining the market, from schools to the military,
it will be tricky to ensure that everyone's following the rules.
International space guidelines require that satellites should
If we build spacecraft, we don't want to shoot
ourselves in the foot by making space unusable.
Most CubeSats are launched into variable orbits
and they have an orbital life of about three to five
years which means, at their end of mission,
There are other spacecraft up there that are quite large
that are not functional, that could potentially cause a lot
of damage if they were to collide with another object.
We've been invading space for more than half a century,
now though the brightest minds are trying to work out how
we can clean up our act, but who's going to be the first big
player in this special mission and who's going to be willing
Let's first get the score on how bad our galactic
Scientists are currently tracking more than 22,000
pieces of space junk, more than 10 centimetres wide,
that's 7,000 tonnes of trash to take out.
But blowing the stuff up would just create a bigger mess.
Instead, would-be cosmic cleaners need to bring pieces
out of orbit to burn up in the Earth's atmosphere.
But first, you've got to catch them, otherwise...
At the University of Surrey, scientists are getting ready
for the world's most ambitious refuge collection.
So the remove debris mission is an exciting mission that we're
It's going to be one of the world's first missions to actually test
Fortunately though, there are animations.
This is what their spacecraft will look like.
First, it will jettison some junk made especially for this mission.
Then it will fire a net to see how easy it is to snag
The second experiment involves setting up a target to test
the accuracy of firing the harpoon in the weightless
Last up, to test future deorbiting tech and, to clean up after itself,
it will deploy a sail designed to upset its orbit and drag it down
The mission will cost 15 million euros and the idea is that each
future mission would target one key piece of space junk.
Well, the thing is, I like to think of space junk a bit
It's a problem that no-one really wants to pay for,
If you have $100 million satellite, it gets wiped out by a piece
of junk, then you start thinking - well, maybe I should have done some
of these missions to actually get rid of these pieces because it
would have been cheaper to begin with.
There's another consideration - a diplomatic one.
There are legal issues with capturing space junk.
You can't just go up there and grab anybody's junk.
For example, a lot of the items that are worthwhile getting rid
If we just went up there and try and grab those that would
effectively be stealing them, it would be theft or interfering
It's not only about reducing hazards for future missions,
but preventing collisions that may themselves generate more junk.
Look at the damage that can be caused by the millions of pieces
British astronaut, Tim Peake, took this photo while on board
the International Space Station, a chip in a window thought to be
caused by an object a few thousand times smaller than a millimetre.
The fear is that, in a few generations, low Earth orbit
Navigation, Earth observation, weather forecasting, communications,
all those things that we take for granted would be gone.
There's already been one or two collisions between objects in space
so far and there is a lot of objects up there.
Space is pretty big, but it's something we need to be
mindful of and I think we should be doing something about it
now rather than waiting for there to be a problem.
But efforts to make the world think collectively about our environment
can be particularly challenging, even more so when that
environment is hundreds of kilometers above the Earth.
We may not be able to take out space's trash quite
as literally as we'd like, but with a new era in satellite
technology looming, experts think it's high time
However, with so many decades of waste that's out of this world,
we won't be able to get the lid on all of it.
Now, just before we go, we are getting news of what could be a
significant story in France. At least one person is dead and armed
police are surrounding a retirement home for monks in the country after
a masked man burst in carrying a knife and a sawn-off shotgun. It's
thought 70 monks live at the home. At the moment there is no indication
that the incident is related to terrorism. There will be more though
on the BBC News Channel overnight. We leave you tonight
with the haunting work An exhibition of his photographs
of homeless people from around the UK and the world goes on show
at the M Saatchi Gallery in London As hundreds of people sleep out
on the streets of London and Bristol tonight,
as part of a campaign to end homelessness, it's a timely
reminder to appreciate that A lot of dry weather to come over
the next few days. Plenty of sunshine on offer through tomorrow
as well after a frosty start across many northern areas. A lot of cloud
across the far north of Scotland might produce the odd spot of rain.
. Pay cloud further south across
The Home Affairs Select Committee releases a damning report on the child abuse enquiry. Plus interviews with the Italian foreign minister and a doctor in Aleppo, more Autumn Statement reaction and a discussion of space junk.