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09/12/2016

Vince Cable on Rupert Murdoch's bid for Sky TV. Whistleblower Yuliya Stepanova talks about the Russian doping scandal.


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Rupert Murdoch strikes to get his empire back as the media

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mogul's 21st Century Fox bids for Sky.

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This was the deal that crashed and burned five years

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What will the regulator say now, and would this deal be good

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This is perhaps Rupert Murdoch's last chance to reunify the firm he

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founded and cement his legacy as the most powerful man

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We'll talk to the man who, as Business Secretary,

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The Russian Olympic team corrupted the London games

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More than 1000 Russian athletes across more than 30 sports

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have been implicated in an explosive report into doping today.

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We interview Yulia Stepanova, the whistleblower whose revelations

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led to the Russian athletics team being banned from Rio.

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She tells Newsnight she is now hiding in fear for her life.

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We'll be asking the President of the World Anti Doping Agency

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And are other countries just as bad?

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It looks like Rupert Murdoch might be about to get his empire back -

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The owner of 21st Century Fox was thwarted in his efforts to get

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Sky back when his now defunct newspaper News of the World became

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embroiled in the Milly Dowler phone hacking scandal.

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But he's been putting pieces of the jigsaw in place.

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Murdoch's son, James, returned as chairman of Sky

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in January this year, and he is also the chief executive

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An ally of Rupert Murdoch's told me tonight that he always had

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an emotional attachment to Sky and was pulling out

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all the stops to get it back - he already owns a 39.1% stake -

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But, despite the fact Sky's deputy chairman Martin Gilbert has

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told me the price was good and one he feels should be put

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to the shareholders, will the regulators be so sanguine

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about Ruport Murdoch's - perhaps - last big play?

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Rupert Murdoch has done some surprising things in his life

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like aged 84 getting married to model Jerry Hall

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One thing that surprised no one, though, is his renewed

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For Rupert Murdoch this is unfinished business.

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I mean, the modus operandi, you know, all of Murdoch's

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companies, NewsCorp, 21st Century Fox, you name it,

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has always been own and control or dispose.

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Don't get caught half owning something, or owning something

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significantly other people have control of.

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February fifth, 1989, the door of television's new age.

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Rupert Murdoch lost control of Sky in 1990 when lack of cash

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forced him into a merger with British Satellite Broadcasting.

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With BSkyB's share price down 30% on the year,

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and the pound at 30 year lows against the US dollar

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following the Brexit vote, Rupert Murdoch knows that the deal

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that he's never given up on might never be cheaper.

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Added to that, his calculation is the political climate that

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sunk his last attempt has now changed decisively in his favour.

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Mr Murdoch withdrew his last bid in 2011 when it crashed into a wave

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of public revulsion over the phone hacking scandal,

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and particularly the interception of voice mail messages

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There were also concerns about diversity of media ownership,

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Even if there is concern, I would assess those

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as being slightly less of an issue now than they were.

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But even when you go through the entire process,

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first of all remember you have the BBC sitting

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in the corner as the biggest game in town by far.

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Secondly, you know, for a deal this size,

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it isn't really very much skin off 21st Century Fox's nose to come up

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with some way of guaranteeing Sky News's independence

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if that is what they end up having to do.

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The media landscape is very different from 2011 with streaming

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services like Netflix and Amazon on the rise, nevertheless

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Sky is still a huge player and a huge price.

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Our North America Business correspondent, Michelle Fleury,

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-- burst, will second time round the The Jambos to mark

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if you look at what is happening to TV and film, the film industry has

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changed massively. We see a wave of consolidation going on. The example,

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after buying direct TV, AT is trying to buy Time Warner. If you

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take Fox, with its huge European footprint, Fox would gain access to

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a huge number of consumers. That would help it compete against the

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likes of Netflix and Amazon. More and more of us are not watching TV

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lies necessarily, but are streaming, this is the way to respond to that.

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-- live. The other thing is price. Sky's share price is down 27% since

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the start of the year. That means if you are looking at doing this deal,

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well, it is getting cheaper than it has in the past. The other thing is

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the fall in the pound. That is after Brexit. That is playing in Rupert

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Murdoch's favour. 21st Century Fox makes its money in US dollars.

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Vince Cable was Business Secretary at the time of the last

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Lebas and Mark two has gone. Rebekah Brooks is back. -- the Leveson

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Inquiry Mark two. This takeover is exactly the issue I faced six years

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ago, which is the extent to which there is genuine plurality, choice

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in the media. It is a highly concentrated business. There is an

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issue of plurality now as there was then. At the time I referred the

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matter to the competition authority. They concluded there was a problem.

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They sought remedies and the thing fell through. I think the same

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issues present themselves as now. Rupert Murdoch withdrew the bid

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because of the controversy over the phone hacking scandal. Would a big,

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powerful commercial media group in the UK be such a bad thing?

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Potentially it could be a bad thing. In respect of news specifically.

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Because this is where plurality matters. In order to get its

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broadcasting licence Sky News would have to remain impartial. It is not

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as if it is going to be influenced by Fox. Indeed, but that is not a

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matter for me, you, or independent commentators, it is a matter for the

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independent commission authorities and the regulator, Ofcom, to decide

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whether the rules can be reversed, and whether there would be genuine

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independence. Thanks very much. David Elstein is a former Head

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of Programming at Sky and Chief Executive

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of Portobello News. With this be a bad thing in terms of

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plurality? I don't know why it would be an issue with plurality at all.

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Sky would be owned by 20 -- would be owned by 21st Century Fox. To be

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perfectly honest, there wasn't a media plurality issued last time.

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That was completely bogus. I hope that... Well, that shouldn't be a

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public interest intervention in this case. There is no basis for one, of

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course. I hope Sky manage to avoid putting any rings around Sky News,

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which might inhibit its long-term financial future. Rather than rings,

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you heard Vince Cable say that there was a concern about impartiality of

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news. But actually, last time round, Rupert Murdoch was going to set up,

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as it were, a separate, not exactly a trust, but a separate organisation

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to deal with Sky News. Is it possible he might do this this time

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round? There is no need to do it this time around because there is no

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issue. Sky News has been an exemplary observer of the

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impartiality rules. It is governed by the impartiality rules. Let me

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put that stricter Vince Cable. There you are, there hasn't been any

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breach of impartiality. -- straight to. It has been a good independent

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organisation. Because they are separate companies there is not an

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issue. But there is the same controlling influence. Whatever he

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says... The simple truth of the matter is when we referred it to an

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independent commission authorities last time they judged that there was

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a threat to media plurality. This was their independent judgment.

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Regardless of what people in the industry say about it. But there is

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no reason to suspect, or may be the media landscape has changed so much.

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The Ofcom analysis was hopelessly wrong. It was the most embarrassing

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document Ofcom has ever produced. There was no plurality issued. There

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should never have been a prolonged negotiation like there was. There

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should never have been a need for the undertakings that News Corp at

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that time offered. But at that time, it was one company, now it is two.

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So it just does not arise. What about the fit and proper persons

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test? During the time of the phone hacking Ofcom questioned James

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Murdoch's and actions. They said his actions fell short of how a chairman

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should have acted. They took the test. They passed Sky as an

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operation. They did the test, Sky past, and on we go. Phone hacking

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was a terrible disaster. A disaster for its victims. A disaster for the

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company. A disaster for the reputation of the press in the UK.

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As far as we know it has gone. As far as we know there is no evidence

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that James Murdoch knew about it, improved it, authorised it, or any

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of that. Now that all of the lawsuits are out of the way, now

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that the prosecutions have gone, the issue, as far as I can see, it

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doesn't arise in this context. In a sense, Vince Cable, they have been

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cleared. There have been issues of deleted e-mails recently brought up

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in the courts, but by and large there is no stain. I think the

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public would be more reassured if are the first Leveson Inquiry have

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led to something. But it hasn't. Why should Rupert Murdoch suffer for

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that? Part of it has never been investigated. The oversight of the

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media is as bad, or as it was back in 2010. This is a separate issue

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from plurality. But the plurality issue remains. And I think he don't

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accept David Dale Steyn's wishing away of the Ofcom report as

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incompetent. -- David Yates Elstein. -- David Elstein. I'm interested to

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see where you think the problem arises with Fox getting a hold on

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the European... They have the same controlling force behind them. They

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are legally separate companies but with the same controlling influence.

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The same overarching control, that's the problem, David. Absolutely. The

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Murdochs have always run Sky. They have always operated their interest

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separately. Let me reemphasise. The Ofcom report may have been

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independent, but it was deeply, deeply flawed. Ofcom has never

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attempted to respond to my critique. I am sure they hope that document

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never sees the light of day again. It wasn't Ofcom's finest hour. It

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was not Vince's finest hour. He had to leave his job as secretary of

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state after he admitted that he launched the public interest

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investigation as part of his war on the Murdochs. It is personal, is it?

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I think I've been vindicated. I referred it to the competition

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authorities. They are independent. Nothing to do with me. Not

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political. And they judged, as I did, that there was an effect of

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plurality and that remains. Thank you very much indeed.

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"A dangerous slide towards political interference in sport."

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Vladimir Putin's response to the McLaren report

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which confirmed widespread state-sponsered cheating

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among the country's top athletes across four years,

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is surely evidence that we live in a looking glass world.

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McLaren, the Canadian law professor who ran the investigation

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for the World Anti-doping Agency found that Russian athletes

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corrupted the 2012 Olympics on an unprecedented scale and says

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that we will probably never know the true scale of the scandal.

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Now the IOC is to retest all Russian samples from 2012.

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Yulia Stepanova the Russian athlete, who first blew the whistle

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on Russia's widespread doping, which led to the row over

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Rio, is now in hiding, somewhere in America,

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She has told the BBC she believes she will be killed

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Yulia Stepanova, Russian champion, world-class athlete

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Branded a traitor in her motherland, she and her husband helped

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expose cheating in Russia on a colossal scale.

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The revelations from this most controversial couple led

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to a humiliating ban on Russia's entire track and field team

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Outraged, President Vladimir Putin immediately responded,

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saying his sports men and women were victims of double standards.

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After revealing the dirty secrets behind Russian athletics,

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the Stepanovs, with their young son, Robert, have spent the past

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They are currently in the United States.

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They are unlikely to return home any time soon.

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Yulia Rusanova, her maiden name, was brought up on the edge

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of an industrial estate in Kursk, south-west Russia.

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With an alcoholic and violent father, she had

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By 20, she began to excel as a middle-distance runner,

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Her performance improved when her coach gave her

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The band drug helped her cut a remarkable three seconds

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Once she was on the national team, she was sent to a top sports

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scientist and expert in performance enhancing drugs.

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But at one race meeting, she came across a person

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in the system who wasn't prepared to turn a blind eye.

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Vitaly Stepanov was an idealistic young officer at Rusada,

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A dirty athlete and a crusader for clean sport.

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It was an unlikely combination, but two months later

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Somehow, they stuck together, despite frequent rows

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There is Rusanova, second in the Russian championships.

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As I said, she had a fright before she did indeed

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Yulia went from strength to strength, running

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the World Championships in South Korea.

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But some clean athletes were puzzled by her success.

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She's young, she looks very talented, has good

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I led the whole way in the semifinal and just at the very end I got

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overtook by two girls, one being Yulia.

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Of course, I was extremely shocked to see her in front of me.

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After the event, she looked very guilty, is the only

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word I could think of, and I thought that straightaway.

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Eventually, Yulia got a two-year suspension

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after irregularities were detected in her biological passport.

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I had been writing to Wada since 2010, and it was a little

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discouraging to see that they kind of preferred to somewhat stay away

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Yulia's ten-page confession to the World Anti-Doping

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So she began secretly taping her coaches,

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officials and fellow athletes on her mobile phone.

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In this recording, her doctor boasts about how his drugs have

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After the recordings aired on German TV, the Stepanovs left Russia.

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Now living in the US, they have received little support.

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The classic sport structure and system doesn't necessarily want

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whistle-blowers coming forward because it brings bad

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And that's contrary to the brand, and it ultimately hurts the brand.

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And so I'm not sure that that's exactly what sport really wanted.

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Yulia's whistle-blowing got a cold reception in Russia.

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The press attacked her as a rat and a traitor.

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Online, some even called for her execution.

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Russian history is full of stories of betrayal.

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There is a famous one about a schoolboy who informed

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on his own father to Stalin's police.

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Some are calling Yulia a modern day version,

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for selling out her fellow athletes and her country.

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She's not a hero because there's nothing brave in it.

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The main motive for her, as for any other athlete

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who is and was doping, is a financial motive.

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In this very laboratory, hundreds of positive samples

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The Moscow lab lost its accreditation in April and has been

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After a round of sackings at the Russian anti-doping agency,

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Those who worked for Rusada in previous years, we don't

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have these old people in our company any more.

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Wouldn't sorry be a good thing to say?

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Actually, I think we should be sorry that everything happened

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and that there were hints that people could say that

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Yulia hopes to compete at the World Championships

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in London next summer, perhaps under a neutral flag.

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But given the further allegation in Richard McLaren's report,

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will her fellow Russian athletes be there, too?

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And if not, does she feel responsible?

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Some call Yulia Stepanova the greatest whistle-blower

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Whatever the case, the fallout from her revelations will be felt

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in Russia and worldwide for some time to come.

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Lucy Ash reporting, as part of the BBC'S 100 Women series.

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You can see a full length documentary on Yulia Stepanova

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and her revelations on 24th and 25th December on BBC World.

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We're now joined from Glasgow by the President of Wada,

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Good evening. Her story is shocking and you need whistle-blowers like

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that but there is a woman who thinks if she goes back to Russia she will

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be killed. You heard the contributor from America saying, we do not want

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whistle-blowers in one way in sport, so how will you help people like

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her? Well, I know of this couple, I have had video conferences with her

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husband. He has helped with the establishment of what will become

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the Wada whistle-blowing policy. And she has been as warmly welcomed by

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the athletic community as anybody could be. The reception of what she

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did in Russia, I agree has been pretty terrible. As far as moving

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forward with whistle-blowers, on the 1st of January next year we put in

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place a brand-new whistle-blowing policy. People will be able to get

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at us from our website, and it will be run by our head of

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investigations, who was the professional investigator on the

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first of the commissions of enquiry, the one which actually found about

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all the trouble in Russian athletics, the one that Yulia

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Stepanova, I suppose, was responsible for. On that question,

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according to achieve sports reporter at the Sunday Times, when she made

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those allegations in that German documentary, your organisation

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ignored her and hoped she would go away and her allegations would not

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get traction. Well, I took on this job in 2014 so I have had to go back

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and look at records. I don't think that was the case. It takes quite a

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long time to deliver the evidence that anybody needs before you start

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an investigation. She has said herself that it was not until 2013

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that she began to collect the evidence that anybody would have

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required. The other problem we had is that as an organisation we did

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not have the legal powers to establish that type of investigation

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until the 1st of January 2000 and 15. But that was the date when our

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first commission went into work, based very much on her work. So much

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doping, from London 2012, right through to Sochi. But in the London

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2012 Olympics, Russia got 24 gold, 32 silver, 32 bronze. They were

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doping on an industrial scale and were not once detected, even though

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you had observers there. If you look at the McLaren report, you will see

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a very detailed description of the system put in place to ensure that

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exactly that happened. It was doping on an industrial scale and it was

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coordinated through the Moscow laboratory and the Deputy Minister

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for sport. We knew, when the IOC began to retest the London samples

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and were beginning to find evidence of doping, because the technology

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was better, that there would be bad news to come. I don't think in any

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way we believed it would be as bad as it has turned out to be. Well, in

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Rio there were actually doping incidences from something like 52

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countries. So we know Russia is not the only culprit. Two questions.

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First, how will you get Russia back into the world scene when it is in

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such a state? Secondly, what about the other countries? As far as

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bringing Russia back into the world scene, that is now, I have to say,

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something of a priority. It is going to be very difficult for sport to

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have the biggest country in the world noncompliant on a prolonged

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basis. It involves a number of things that have to happen in

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Russia. The first would be to accept the validity of the reports that

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have been produced by Professor McLaren. Secondly, they have to

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understand that a proper, well-organised anti-doping

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organisation has to be independent, as independent as it can be in any

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country. That involves independent people, not just Russian

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sportspeople. Vladimir Putin said today this was political

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interference in sport on a grand scale. He does not sound ready to

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take recommendations. Well, he has taken a number of the last few

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months. I understand that the President has said, we have a

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problem and we need to fix it. I am encouraged by that. This will not be

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an easy process because in someways we are trying to change the culture.

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That is just the technical bit. The problem thereafter is to do it in

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such a way that the rest of the world believes it and knows they are

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behaving appropriately. Next year we have the World Athletics

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Championships in London. Can you say they will be clean? Nobody would say

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that anything would be guaranteed to be clean, on the evidence of the

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amount of doping that goes on. The IAAF are working closely with us,

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but it will be very difficult for us to deal with the Russian anti-doping

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agency in one way and for track and field athletics to do it in a

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different way, so there is a common interest. But every effort will be

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made. I think it is a fair point to say that since modern and better

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technology has produced a lot of really terrible evidence now,

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anybody who believes that will not improve by London 2017 is probably

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not thinking straight. Thank you. Just before we go, we wanted to wish

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many happy returns to the man who was born Issur Danielovitch

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on this day in 1916. He's the last leading man standing

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from Hollywood's Golden Age, patriarch of an acting dynasty

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and star of films like Paths of Glory, Out of the Past,

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the Vikings, and, of course, despite many claims

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to the contrary, he was Spartacus. So - Kirk Douglas -

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happy hundredth birthday. # I've got a wail of a tale to tell

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you, lads # A wail of a tale, and it's all

:30:40.:30:44.

true, I swear # There was mermaid mini

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# I met her in Madagascar. # I hate surprises, myself.

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# Blow me down and picked me up, she swapped me for a trout. I'm

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Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. Good

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evening. The weekend will start with a north- south divide

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