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Rupert Murdoch strikes to get his empire back as the media | :00:07. | :00:09. | |
mogul's 21st Century Fox bids for Sky. | :00:10. | :00:13. | |
This was the deal that crashed and burned five years | :00:14. | :00:15. | |
What will the regulator say now, and would this deal be good | :00:16. | :00:20. | |
This is perhaps Rupert Murdoch's last chance to reunify the firm he | :00:21. | :00:31. | |
founded and cement his legacy as the most powerful man | :00:32. | :00:34. | |
We'll talk to the man who, as Business Secretary, | :00:35. | :00:37. | |
The Russian Olympic team corrupted the London games | :00:38. | :00:47. | |
More than 1000 Russian athletes across more than 30 sports | :00:48. | :00:54. | |
have been implicated in an explosive report into doping today. | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
We interview Yulia Stepanova, the whistleblower whose revelations | :00:58. | :00:59. | |
led to the Russian athletics team being banned from Rio. | :01:00. | :01:06. | |
She tells Newsnight she is now hiding in fear for her life. | :01:07. | :01:15. | |
We'll be asking the President of the World Anti Doping Agency | :01:16. | :01:17. | |
And are other countries just as bad? | :01:18. | :01:31. | |
It looks like Rupert Murdoch might be about to get his empire back - | :01:32. | :01:39. | |
The owner of 21st Century Fox was thwarted in his efforts to get | :01:40. | :01:45. | |
Sky back when his now defunct newspaper News of the World became | :01:46. | :01:48. | |
embroiled in the Milly Dowler phone hacking scandal. | :01:49. | :01:50. | |
But he's been putting pieces of the jigsaw in place. | :01:51. | :01:57. | |
Murdoch's son, James, returned as chairman of Sky | :01:58. | :01:59. | |
in January this year, and he is also the chief executive | :02:00. | :02:02. | |
An ally of Rupert Murdoch's told me tonight that he always had | :02:03. | :02:06. | |
an emotional attachment to Sky and was pulling out | :02:07. | :02:09. | |
all the stops to get it back - he already owns a 39.1% stake - | :02:10. | :02:14. | |
But, despite the fact Sky's deputy chairman Martin Gilbert has | :02:15. | :02:19. | |
told me the price was good and one he feels should be put | :02:20. | :02:22. | |
to the shareholders, will the regulators be so sanguine | :02:23. | :02:24. | |
about Ruport Murdoch's - perhaps - last big play? | :02:25. | :02:27. | |
Rupert Murdoch has done some surprising things in his life | :02:28. | :02:32. | |
like aged 84 getting married to model Jerry Hall | :02:33. | :02:35. | |
One thing that surprised no one, though, is his renewed | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
For Rupert Murdoch this is unfinished business. | :02:41. | :02:47. | |
I mean, the modus operandi, you know, all of Murdoch's | :02:48. | :02:59. | |
companies, NewsCorp, 21st Century Fox, you name it, | :03:00. | :03:00. | |
has always been own and control or dispose. | :03:01. | :03:02. | |
Don't get caught half owning something, or owning something | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
significantly other people have control of. | :03:06. | :03:06. | |
February fifth, 1989, the door of television's new age. | :03:07. | :03:08. | |
Rupert Murdoch lost control of Sky in 1990 when lack of cash | :03:09. | :03:15. | |
forced him into a merger with British Satellite Broadcasting. | :03:16. | :03:18. | |
With BSkyB's share price down 30% on the year, | :03:19. | :03:23. | |
and the pound at 30 year lows against the US dollar | :03:24. | :03:26. | |
following the Brexit vote, Rupert Murdoch knows that the deal | :03:27. | :03:28. | |
that he's never given up on might never be cheaper. | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
Added to that, his calculation is the political climate that | :03:35. | :03:37. | |
sunk his last attempt has now changed decisively in his favour. | :03:38. | :03:42. | |
Mr Murdoch withdrew his last bid in 2011 when it crashed into a wave | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
of public revulsion over the phone hacking scandal, | :03:48. | :03:49. | |
and particularly the interception of voice mail messages | :03:50. | :03:51. | |
There were also concerns about diversity of media ownership, | :03:52. | :03:55. | |
Even if there is concern, I would assess those | :03:56. | :04:04. | |
as being slightly less of an issue now than they were. | :04:05. | :04:08. | |
But even when you go through the entire process, | :04:09. | :04:10. | |
first of all remember you have the BBC sitting | :04:11. | :04:12. | |
in the corner as the biggest game in town by far. | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
Secondly, you know, for a deal this size, | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
it isn't really very much skin off 21st Century Fox's nose to come up | :04:19. | :04:21. | |
with some way of guaranteeing Sky News's independence | :04:22. | :04:24. | |
if that is what they end up having to do. | :04:25. | :04:29. | |
The media landscape is very different from 2011 with streaming | :04:30. | :04:32. | |
services like Netflix and Amazon on the rise, nevertheless | :04:33. | :04:34. | |
Sky is still a huge player and a huge price. | :04:35. | :04:39. | |
Our North America Business correspondent, Michelle Fleury, | :04:40. | :04:42. | |
-- burst, will second time round the The Jambos to mark | :04:43. | :05:05. | |
if you look at what is happening to TV and film, the film industry has | :05:06. | :05:14. | |
changed massively. We see a wave of consolidation going on. The example, | :05:15. | :05:20. | |
after buying direct TV, AT is trying to buy Time Warner. If you | :05:21. | :05:29. | |
take Fox, with its huge European footprint, Fox would gain access to | :05:30. | :05:33. | |
a huge number of consumers. That would help it compete against the | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
likes of Netflix and Amazon. More and more of us are not watching TV | :05:38. | :05:43. | |
lies necessarily, but are streaming, this is the way to respond to that. | :05:44. | :05:49. | |
-- live. The other thing is price. Sky's share price is down 27% since | :05:50. | :05:55. | |
the start of the year. That means if you are looking at doing this deal, | :05:56. | :05:59. | |
well, it is getting cheaper than it has in the past. The other thing is | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
the fall in the pound. That is after Brexit. That is playing in Rupert | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
Murdoch's favour. 21st Century Fox makes its money in US dollars. | :06:10. | :06:19. | |
Vince Cable was Business Secretary at the time of the last | :06:20. | :06:22. | |
Lebas and Mark two has gone. Rebekah Brooks is back. -- the Leveson | :06:23. | :06:40. | |
Inquiry Mark two. This takeover is exactly the issue I faced six years | :06:41. | :06:45. | |
ago, which is the extent to which there is genuine plurality, choice | :06:46. | :06:48. | |
in the media. It is a highly concentrated business. There is an | :06:49. | :06:52. | |
issue of plurality now as there was then. At the time I referred the | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
matter to the competition authority. They concluded there was a problem. | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
They sought remedies and the thing fell through. I think the same | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
issues present themselves as now. Rupert Murdoch withdrew the bid | :07:08. | :07:09. | |
because of the controversy over the phone hacking scandal. Would a big, | :07:10. | :07:15. | |
powerful commercial media group in the UK be such a bad thing? | :07:16. | :07:22. | |
Potentially it could be a bad thing. In respect of news specifically. | :07:23. | :07:25. | |
Because this is where plurality matters. In order to get its | :07:26. | :07:32. | |
broadcasting licence Sky News would have to remain impartial. It is not | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
as if it is going to be influenced by Fox. Indeed, but that is not a | :07:38. | :07:43. | |
matter for me, you, or independent commentators, it is a matter for the | :07:44. | :07:45. | |
independent commission authorities and the regulator, Ofcom, to decide | :07:46. | :07:52. | |
whether the rules can be reversed, and whether there would be genuine | :07:53. | :07:53. | |
independence. Thanks very much. David Elstein is a former Head | :07:54. | :07:57. | |
of Programming at Sky and Chief Executive | :07:58. | :08:08. | |
of Portobello News. With this be a bad thing in terms of | :08:09. | :08:17. | |
plurality? I don't know why it would be an issue with plurality at all. | :08:18. | :08:25. | |
Sky would be owned by 20 -- would be owned by 21st Century Fox. To be | :08:26. | :08:32. | |
perfectly honest, there wasn't a media plurality issued last time. | :08:33. | :08:38. | |
That was completely bogus. I hope that... Well, that shouldn't be a | :08:39. | :08:44. | |
public interest intervention in this case. There is no basis for one, of | :08:45. | :08:52. | |
course. I hope Sky manage to avoid putting any rings around Sky News, | :08:53. | :08:56. | |
which might inhibit its long-term financial future. Rather than rings, | :08:57. | :09:03. | |
you heard Vince Cable say that there was a concern about impartiality of | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
news. But actually, last time round, Rupert Murdoch was going to set up, | :09:09. | :09:11. | |
as it were, a separate, not exactly a trust, but a separate organisation | :09:12. | :09:16. | |
to deal with Sky News. Is it possible he might do this this time | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
round? There is no need to do it this time around because there is no | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
issue. Sky News has been an exemplary observer of the | :09:27. | :09:31. | |
impartiality rules. It is governed by the impartiality rules. Let me | :09:32. | :09:36. | |
put that stricter Vince Cable. There you are, there hasn't been any | :09:37. | :09:39. | |
breach of impartiality. -- straight to. It has been a good independent | :09:40. | :09:46. | |
organisation. Because they are separate companies there is not an | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
issue. But there is the same controlling influence. Whatever he | :09:50. | :09:54. | |
says... The simple truth of the matter is when we referred it to an | :09:55. | :09:58. | |
independent commission authorities last time they judged that there was | :09:59. | :10:04. | |
a threat to media plurality. This was their independent judgment. | :10:05. | :10:06. | |
Regardless of what people in the industry say about it. But there is | :10:07. | :10:16. | |
no reason to suspect, or may be the media landscape has changed so much. | :10:17. | :10:20. | |
The Ofcom analysis was hopelessly wrong. It was the most embarrassing | :10:21. | :10:25. | |
document Ofcom has ever produced. There was no plurality issued. There | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
should never have been a prolonged negotiation like there was. There | :10:32. | :10:34. | |
should never have been a need for the undertakings that News Corp at | :10:35. | :10:41. | |
that time offered. But at that time, it was one company, now it is two. | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
So it just does not arise. What about the fit and proper persons | :10:48. | :10:51. | |
test? During the time of the phone hacking Ofcom questioned James | :10:52. | :11:00. | |
Murdoch's and actions. They said his actions fell short of how a chairman | :11:01. | :11:05. | |
should have acted. They took the test. They passed Sky as an | :11:06. | :11:13. | |
operation. They did the test, Sky past, and on we go. Phone hacking | :11:14. | :11:21. | |
was a terrible disaster. A disaster for its victims. A disaster for the | :11:22. | :11:25. | |
company. A disaster for the reputation of the press in the UK. | :11:26. | :11:30. | |
As far as we know it has gone. As far as we know there is no evidence | :11:31. | :11:35. | |
that James Murdoch knew about it, improved it, authorised it, or any | :11:36. | :11:41. | |
of that. Now that all of the lawsuits are out of the way, now | :11:42. | :11:47. | |
that the prosecutions have gone, the issue, as far as I can see, it | :11:48. | :11:52. | |
doesn't arise in this context. In a sense, Vince Cable, they have been | :11:53. | :11:56. | |
cleared. There have been issues of deleted e-mails recently brought up | :11:57. | :12:00. | |
in the courts, but by and large there is no stain. I think the | :12:01. | :12:07. | |
public would be more reassured if are the first Leveson Inquiry have | :12:08. | :12:12. | |
led to something. But it hasn't. Why should Rupert Murdoch suffer for | :12:13. | :12:16. | |
that? Part of it has never been investigated. The oversight of the | :12:17. | :12:22. | |
media is as bad, or as it was back in 2010. This is a separate issue | :12:23. | :12:28. | |
from plurality. But the plurality issue remains. And I think he don't | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
accept David Dale Steyn's wishing away of the Ofcom report as | :12:34. | :12:42. | |
incompetent. -- David Yates Elstein. -- David Elstein. I'm interested to | :12:43. | :12:47. | |
see where you think the problem arises with Fox getting a hold on | :12:48. | :12:55. | |
the European... They have the same controlling force behind them. They | :12:56. | :12:59. | |
are legally separate companies but with the same controlling influence. | :13:00. | :13:05. | |
The same overarching control, that's the problem, David. Absolutely. The | :13:06. | :13:18. | |
Murdochs have always run Sky. They have always operated their interest | :13:19. | :13:29. | |
separately. Let me reemphasise. The Ofcom report may have been | :13:30. | :13:32. | |
independent, but it was deeply, deeply flawed. Ofcom has never | :13:33. | :13:43. | |
attempted to respond to my critique. I am sure they hope that document | :13:44. | :13:47. | |
never sees the light of day again. It wasn't Ofcom's finest hour. It | :13:48. | :13:53. | |
was not Vince's finest hour. He had to leave his job as secretary of | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
state after he admitted that he launched the public interest | :13:58. | :14:00. | |
investigation as part of his war on the Murdochs. It is personal, is it? | :14:01. | :14:10. | |
I think I've been vindicated. I referred it to the competition | :14:11. | :14:12. | |
authorities. They are independent. Nothing to do with me. Not | :14:13. | :14:18. | |
political. And they judged, as I did, that there was an effect of | :14:19. | :14:20. | |
plurality and that remains. Thank you very much indeed. | :14:21. | :14:23. | |
"A dangerous slide towards political interference in sport." | :14:24. | :14:25. | |
Vladimir Putin's response to the McLaren report | :14:26. | :14:27. | |
which confirmed widespread state-sponsered cheating | :14:28. | :14:28. | |
among the country's top athletes across four years, | :14:29. | :14:30. | |
is surely evidence that we live in a looking glass world. | :14:31. | :14:33. | |
McLaren, the Canadian law professor who ran the investigation | :14:34. | :14:35. | |
for the World Anti-doping Agency found that Russian athletes | :14:36. | :14:37. | |
corrupted the 2012 Olympics on an unprecedented scale and says | :14:38. | :14:41. | |
that we will probably never know the true scale of the scandal. | :14:42. | :14:46. | |
Now the IOC is to retest all Russian samples from 2012. | :14:47. | :14:50. | |
Yulia Stepanova the Russian athlete, who first blew the whistle | :14:51. | :14:53. | |
on Russia's widespread doping, which led to the row over | :14:54. | :14:56. | |
Rio, is now in hiding, somewhere in America, | :14:57. | :15:01. | |
She has told the BBC she believes she will be killed | :15:02. | :15:05. | |
Yulia Stepanova, Russian champion, world-class athlete | :15:06. | :15:27. | |
Branded a traitor in her motherland, she and her husband helped | :15:28. | :15:34. | |
expose cheating in Russia on a colossal scale. | :15:35. | :15:42. | |
The revelations from this most controversial couple led | :15:43. | :15:44. | |
to a humiliating ban on Russia's entire track and field team | :15:45. | :15:46. | |
Outraged, President Vladimir Putin immediately responded, | :15:47. | :15:54. | |
saying his sports men and women were victims of double standards. | :15:55. | :16:15. | |
After revealing the dirty secrets behind Russian athletics, | :16:16. | :16:17. | |
the Stepanovs, with their young son, Robert, have spent the past | :16:18. | :16:19. | |
They are currently in the United States. | :16:20. | :16:26. | |
They are unlikely to return home any time soon. | :16:27. | :17:09. | |
Yulia Rusanova, her maiden name, was brought up on the edge | :17:10. | :17:12. | |
of an industrial estate in Kursk, south-west Russia. | :17:13. | :17:17. | |
With an alcoholic and violent father, she had | :17:18. | :17:19. | |
By 20, she began to excel as a middle-distance runner, | :17:20. | :17:27. | |
Her performance improved when her coach gave her | :17:28. | :17:32. | |
The band drug helped her cut a remarkable three seconds | :17:33. | :17:37. | |
Once she was on the national team, she was sent to a top sports | :17:38. | :18:02. | |
scientist and expert in performance enhancing drugs. | :18:03. | :18:36. | |
But at one race meeting, she came across a person | :18:37. | :18:38. | |
in the system who wasn't prepared to turn a blind eye. | :18:39. | :18:42. | |
Vitaly Stepanov was an idealistic young officer at Rusada, | :18:43. | :18:44. | |
A dirty athlete and a crusader for clean sport. | :18:45. | :18:52. | |
It was an unlikely combination, but two months later | :18:53. | :18:54. | |
Somehow, they stuck together, despite frequent rows | :18:55. | :19:00. | |
There is Rusanova, second in the Russian championships. | :19:01. | :19:08. | |
As I said, she had a fright before she did indeed | :19:09. | :19:11. | |
Yulia went from strength to strength, running | :19:12. | :19:14. | |
the World Championships in South Korea. | :19:15. | :19:17. | |
But some clean athletes were puzzled by her success. | :19:18. | :19:20. | |
She's young, she looks very talented, has good | :19:21. | :19:22. | |
I led the whole way in the semifinal and just at the very end I got | :19:23. | :19:28. | |
overtook by two girls, one being Yulia. | :19:29. | :19:31. | |
Of course, I was extremely shocked to see her in front of me. | :19:32. | :19:34. | |
After the event, she looked very guilty, is the only | :19:35. | :19:40. | |
word I could think of, and I thought that straightaway. | :19:41. | :19:47. | |
Eventually, Yulia got a two-year suspension | :19:48. | :19:50. | |
after irregularities were detected in her biological passport. | :19:51. | :20:31. | |
I had been writing to Wada since 2010, and it was a little | :20:32. | :20:38. | |
discouraging to see that they kind of preferred to somewhat stay away | :20:39. | :20:41. | |
Yulia's ten-page confession to the World Anti-Doping | :20:42. | :20:48. | |
So she began secretly taping her coaches, | :20:49. | :21:00. | |
officials and fellow athletes on her mobile phone. | :21:01. | :21:04. | |
In this recording, her doctor boasts about how his drugs have | :21:05. | :21:06. | |
After the recordings aired on German TV, the Stepanovs left Russia. | :21:07. | :21:15. | |
Now living in the US, they have received little support. | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
The classic sport structure and system doesn't necessarily want | :21:21. | :21:22. | |
whistle-blowers coming forward because it brings bad | :21:23. | :21:25. | |
And that's contrary to the brand, and it ultimately hurts the brand. | :21:26. | :21:33. | |
And so I'm not sure that that's exactly what sport really wanted. | :21:34. | :21:40. | |
Yulia's whistle-blowing got a cold reception in Russia. | :21:41. | :21:43. | |
The press attacked her as a rat and a traitor. | :21:44. | :21:49. | |
Online, some even called for her execution. | :21:50. | :21:54. | |
Russian history is full of stories of betrayal. | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
There is a famous one about a schoolboy who informed | :21:59. | :22:00. | |
on his own father to Stalin's police. | :22:01. | :22:05. | |
Some are calling Yulia a modern day version, | :22:06. | :22:10. | |
for selling out her fellow athletes and her country. | :22:11. | :22:15. | |
She's not a hero because there's nothing brave in it. | :22:16. | :22:18. | |
The main motive for her, as for any other athlete | :22:19. | :22:23. | |
who is and was doping, is a financial motive. | :22:24. | :22:30. | |
In this very laboratory, hundreds of positive samples | :22:31. | :22:32. | |
The Moscow lab lost its accreditation in April and has been | :22:33. | :22:37. | |
After a round of sackings at the Russian anti-doping agency, | :22:38. | :22:44. | |
Those who worked for Rusada in previous years, we don't | :22:45. | :22:52. | |
have these old people in our company any more. | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
Wouldn't sorry be a good thing to say? | :22:58. | :22:59. | |
Actually, I think we should be sorry that everything happened | :23:00. | :23:03. | |
and that there were hints that people could say that | :23:04. | :23:08. | |
Yulia hopes to compete at the World Championships | :23:09. | :23:19. | |
in London next summer, perhaps under a neutral flag. | :23:20. | :23:23. | |
But given the further allegation in Richard McLaren's report, | :23:24. | :23:26. | |
will her fellow Russian athletes be there, too? | :23:27. | :23:34. | |
And if not, does she feel responsible? | :23:35. | :23:52. | |
Some call Yulia Stepanova the greatest whistle-blower | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
Whatever the case, the fallout from her revelations will be felt | :23:56. | :24:01. | |
in Russia and worldwide for some time to come. | :24:02. | :24:08. | |
Lucy Ash reporting, as part of the BBC'S 100 Women series. | :24:09. | :24:12. | |
You can see a full length documentary on Yulia Stepanova | :24:13. | :24:15. | |
and her revelations on 24th and 25th December on BBC World. | :24:16. | :24:26. | |
We're now joined from Glasgow by the President of Wada, | :24:27. | :24:35. | |
Good evening. Her story is shocking and you need whistle-blowers like | :24:36. | :24:39. | |
that but there is a woman who thinks if she goes back to Russia she will | :24:40. | :24:43. | |
be killed. You heard the contributor from America saying, we do not want | :24:44. | :24:48. | |
whistle-blowers in one way in sport, so how will you help people like | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
her? Well, I know of this couple, I have had video conferences with her | :24:56. | :24:59. | |
husband. He has helped with the establishment of what will become | :25:00. | :25:05. | |
the Wada whistle-blowing policy. And she has been as warmly welcomed by | :25:06. | :25:09. | |
the athletic community as anybody could be. The reception of what she | :25:10. | :25:13. | |
did in Russia, I agree has been pretty terrible. As far as moving | :25:14. | :25:19. | |
forward with whistle-blowers, on the 1st of January next year we put in | :25:20. | :25:23. | |
place a brand-new whistle-blowing policy. People will be able to get | :25:24. | :25:28. | |
at us from our website, and it will be run by our head of | :25:29. | :25:30. | |
investigations, who was the professional investigator on the | :25:31. | :25:35. | |
first of the commissions of enquiry, the one which actually found about | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
all the trouble in Russian athletics, the one that Yulia | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
Stepanova, I suppose, was responsible for. On that question, | :25:43. | :25:49. | |
according to achieve sports reporter at the Sunday Times, when she made | :25:50. | :25:53. | |
those allegations in that German documentary, your organisation | :25:54. | :25:56. | |
ignored her and hoped she would go away and her allegations would not | :25:57. | :26:03. | |
get traction. Well, I took on this job in 2014 so I have had to go back | :26:04. | :26:07. | |
and look at records. I don't think that was the case. It takes quite a | :26:08. | :26:10. | |
long time to deliver the evidence that anybody needs before you start | :26:11. | :26:15. | |
an investigation. She has said herself that it was not until 2013 | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
that she began to collect the evidence that anybody would have | :26:21. | :26:25. | |
required. The other problem we had is that as an organisation we did | :26:26. | :26:29. | |
not have the legal powers to establish that type of investigation | :26:30. | :26:32. | |
until the 1st of January 2000 and 15. But that was the date when our | :26:33. | :26:38. | |
first commission went into work, based very much on her work. So much | :26:39. | :26:45. | |
doping, from London 2012, right through to Sochi. But in the London | :26:46. | :26:52. | |
2012 Olympics, Russia got 24 gold, 32 silver, 32 bronze. They were | :26:53. | :26:56. | |
doping on an industrial scale and were not once detected, even though | :26:57. | :27:02. | |
you had observers there. If you look at the McLaren report, you will see | :27:03. | :27:05. | |
a very detailed description of the system put in place to ensure that | :27:06. | :27:11. | |
exactly that happened. It was doping on an industrial scale and it was | :27:12. | :27:14. | |
coordinated through the Moscow laboratory and the Deputy Minister | :27:15. | :27:21. | |
for sport. We knew, when the IOC began to retest the London samples | :27:22. | :27:24. | |
and were beginning to find evidence of doping, because the technology | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
was better, that there would be bad news to come. I don't think in any | :27:29. | :27:32. | |
way we believed it would be as bad as it has turned out to be. Well, in | :27:33. | :27:39. | |
Rio there were actually doping incidences from something like 52 | :27:40. | :27:44. | |
countries. So we know Russia is not the only culprit. Two questions. | :27:45. | :27:51. | |
First, how will you get Russia back into the world scene when it is in | :27:52. | :27:55. | |
such a state? Secondly, what about the other countries? As far as | :27:56. | :28:01. | |
bringing Russia back into the world scene, that is now, I have to say, | :28:02. | :28:06. | |
something of a priority. It is going to be very difficult for sport to | :28:07. | :28:09. | |
have the biggest country in the world noncompliant on a prolonged | :28:10. | :28:13. | |
basis. It involves a number of things that have to happen in | :28:14. | :28:17. | |
Russia. The first would be to accept the validity of the reports that | :28:18. | :28:20. | |
have been produced by Professor McLaren. Secondly, they have to | :28:21. | :28:27. | |
understand that a proper, well-organised anti-doping | :28:28. | :28:30. | |
organisation has to be independent, as independent as it can be in any | :28:31. | :28:35. | |
country. That involves independent people, not just Russian | :28:36. | :28:39. | |
sportspeople. Vladimir Putin said today this was political | :28:40. | :28:42. | |
interference in sport on a grand scale. He does not sound ready to | :28:43. | :28:46. | |
take recommendations. Well, he has taken a number of the last few | :28:47. | :28:55. | |
months. I understand that the President has said, we have a | :28:56. | :28:59. | |
problem and we need to fix it. I am encouraged by that. This will not be | :29:00. | :29:03. | |
an easy process because in someways we are trying to change the culture. | :29:04. | :29:07. | |
That is just the technical bit. The problem thereafter is to do it in | :29:08. | :29:11. | |
such a way that the rest of the world believes it and knows they are | :29:12. | :29:16. | |
behaving appropriately. Next year we have the World Athletics | :29:17. | :29:18. | |
Championships in London. Can you say they will be clean? Nobody would say | :29:19. | :29:24. | |
that anything would be guaranteed to be clean, on the evidence of the | :29:25. | :29:29. | |
amount of doping that goes on. The IAAF are working closely with us, | :29:30. | :29:33. | |
but it will be very difficult for us to deal with the Russian anti-doping | :29:34. | :29:37. | |
agency in one way and for track and field athletics to do it in a | :29:38. | :29:40. | |
different way, so there is a common interest. But every effort will be | :29:41. | :29:45. | |
made. I think it is a fair point to say that since modern and better | :29:46. | :29:49. | |
technology has produced a lot of really terrible evidence now, | :29:50. | :29:54. | |
anybody who believes that will not improve by London 2017 is probably | :29:55. | :29:57. | |
not thinking straight. Thank you. Just before we go, we wanted to wish | :29:58. | :30:01. | |
many happy returns to the man who was born Issur Danielovitch | :30:02. | :30:04. | |
on this day in 1916. He's the last leading man standing | :30:05. | :30:07. | |
from Hollywood's Golden Age, patriarch of an acting dynasty | :30:08. | :30:09. | |
and star of films like Paths of Glory, Out of the Past, | :30:10. | :30:12. | |
the Vikings, and, of course, despite many claims | :30:13. | :30:14. | |
to the contrary, he was Spartacus. So - Kirk Douglas - | :30:15. | :30:17. | |
happy hundredth birthday. # I've got a wail of a tale to tell | :30:18. | :30:39. | |
you, lads # A wail of a tale, and it's all | :30:40. | :30:44. | |
true, I swear # There was mermaid mini | :30:45. | :30:50. | |
# I met her in Madagascar. # I hate surprises, myself. | :30:51. | :30:57. | |
# Blow me down and picked me up, she swapped me for a trout. I'm | :30:58. | :31:06. | |
Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. I'm Spartacus. Good | :31:07. | :31:17. | |
evening. The weekend will start with a north- south divide | :31:18. | :31:19. |