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Donald Trump has been saying that he will run

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for President as a Republican, which is surprising

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since I just assumed he was running as a joke.

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Donald Trump, just last week, he confirmed to the National

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Review that he is again considering a run in 2016.

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I will personally write you a campaign cheque now,

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on behalf of this country, which does not want

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you to be President but which badly wants you to run.

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And which Republican candidate has the best chance of winning

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I Donald John Trump do solemnly swear...

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There's not going to be a President Donald Trump.

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That I will faithfully execute the office of President

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He's not going to be President of the United States.

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And will to the best of my ability...

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Donald Trump will never be elected President of the United States.

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Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution

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The election that brought him to power was ten long weeks ago.

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Yet the moment - when it finally came - still felt unreal.

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It was perhaps the boldest act of democracy this

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A man who professes to hate politics and Washington became

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And his inaugural address was entirely consistent with his brand.

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This was not an appeal to the better angels of our nature,

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nor less a reassurance on fearing fear itself.

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This was a stump speech carried past the winning post -

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a speech for those who helped him to victory, not those

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In place of unity, there was talk of nationalism.

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In place of hope, there was talk of pride.

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In place of the rest of the world, a pledge to put America first,

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with all the connotations that history bestows upon it.

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Tonight, we explore the new reality of President Trump's America

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and speak to his core advisor on foreign affairs.

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But we start with a flavour from the streets of America's capital -

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those who abhor him and those who adore him.

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Inauguration Day dawns in Washington, DC,

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Next time those suckers take over a crosswalk, let's lay down!

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He's here to interrupt the cavalcade of Bikers For Trump,

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the flag-wavers on two wheels who've come to celebrate

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What do you think Trump is going to do to Washington?

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What's he going to do Washington, or for Washington?

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Round the corner, on a genteel street they call Embassy Row,

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they're handing out free marijuana to anyone who's of age.

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We're here to give a message to President-elect Trump,

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that we want to legalise marijuana for the entire country,

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and that we hope that he'll make that happen.

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I'd heard about the euphoria of Inauguration Day celebrations,

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but never before put it down to something quite this simple.

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And to greet the flashlights of foreign media, protesters

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All the pussy-grabbing comments really got to me,

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and so I felt like we really needed to take a stand and say that we're

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That's quite a scary pussy you've got there.

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Yeah, I was trying to make it fierce!

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These are, of course, the fringe elements of a day that

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Along Constitution Avenue we meet the crowds.

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Not as record as the President-elect forecast, but steady nonetheless.

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Why have you come, why does it mean so much today?

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He'll bring a change of jobs and prosperity and a feeling

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First time I ever went to something like this.

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My friend asked me to come, so I'm here.

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Now, every four years since the age of Thomas Jefferson,

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this town has embraced the pomp and the pageantry, the history

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Donald Trump brings to it his own brand of political anarchy that

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worked so successfully on the campaign trail.

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He appealed to people, don't forget, who hate Washington

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That's what makes today slightly more complicated.

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Is the hood not having any jobs not an issue?

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Which is why I didn't vote for Trump.

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And then, at noon, the shouting stops and the rousing chorus begins.

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Then it's time for Donald Trump to address the nation,

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not in characters, but in words, and words that will go down

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in history as his very first spoken to the nation as president.

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We are transferring power from Washington DC, and giving it

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It was the speech of someone who's won, but still feels

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It echoed the isolationist rhetoric of the 1930s.

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It dismissed the global stage on which America precariously sets.

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From this day forward, a new vision will govern our land.

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From this day forward, it's going to be only America

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It was a speech that told the people who had voted for him,

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He promised today to determine the course of America

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and the world for many, many years to come.

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Now everyone's suddenly wondering, what that might mean.

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Joining me now, Michelle Malkin, a post Danielle Allen, professor of

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political theory who has campaigned with Obama. Michelle, I will start

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with you. This was familiar Trump territory. He appealed to the people

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who had voted for him and put him in power. I wonder if you were

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expecting more from an inaugural address? No, he has been transparent

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all along. One of his things is this idea that he expressed about

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patriotism being a unifying factor, that leaves no room for prejudice,

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and I think one of the most exciting things, as somebody who is perceived

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as, quote unquote, a person of colour, is that he gave space that

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was very liberating to people of colour who don't feel inflamed by

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liberal ideology. And I think that a lot of people in the left-wing media

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could not get their heads around the idea that people like me exist.

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Enslaved by liberal ideology? I would respectfully disagree with

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what he did in the speech, he began talking about how we are all

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Americans, but then he went to describe this America as everybody

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who voted for him, which is a limited subset of America, not even

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a majority. So there is a tension between the circus of acclaim,

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speaking to every American, and an invocation of the people supported

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him. You have to recognise it was a minority. This was a strong speech,

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wasn't it? You inhabit the ideological saves space of identity

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politics and you listen to a man who you disagree with when it comes to

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the fundamental idea that one can embrace American sovereignty and not

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be xenophobic, racist or discriminatory. You are going to

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hear what you want to hear. The fact is that there were so many

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independents that voted for Donald Trump that were black, white,

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yellow, brown... Hillary won popular vote, the Democrats didn't get a

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shout out at all. This was the time to bring on board the people who

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lost. He didn't just talk to Republicans or Conservatives. He

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talked to people who identified themselves as citizens of America.

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There is a way to talk about all Americans. Liberty and justice for

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all. Patrick isn't is a good thing, Democrats get behind that as well.

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-- patriotism. But he didn't reach out and open up the everybody. Let's

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talk about the policy. We all know he is trying to value arise that...

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I find that to be. Using it to provoke. It is a transcendent idea

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that all Americans should put Americans first, Americans first,

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and the problem with the progressive left is they do not accept the idea

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that America is exceptional. There is a special place because we are

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indivisible. He is coming with rhetoric. When he invokes a slogan

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like America first, he is stirring up his face, like you, and provoking

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his adversarial survey will overreact. You think it is stirring

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up the -based talk about the idea of Law and order and sovereignty? To

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talk about putting America first in trade? It was used first in the

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1930s for the kind of American isolationism in the face of Nazi

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Germany. You accept that as rhetoric that your president is using? So you

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are calling him a Nazi? She is not. Yes, she is. There is clinging to

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the idea that, since people in the 1930s used it, but using that phrase

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now in 2017 to establish American exceptionalism... He's cunning with

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his rhetoric, because we know that he will hold his face together and

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provoke his adversarial. When he provokes his adversarial, they will

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overreact. People should recognise how cunning he is. Could I ask you

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to step back for one second? He has been called a bad winner. He has the

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victory, he has the presidency. Wasn't this a time to talk about

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unity? Why don't you hold Chuck Schumer to that standard? He was a

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sore loser. He took nasty passive aggressive barbs. If you are going

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to preach Ealing, practice it. I will give credit today for having

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expressed a message of unity to both sides of the aisle. He set a model

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that I wish other people that followed. Democrats would have

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condemned all of the criminal behaviour and anarchy on the

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streets, because they can't tolerate that they lost.

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Donald Trump was bold in his promises - yes, even on day one -

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pledging to eradicate Islamic terror.

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He took the threat to Isis so familiar on the campaign trail

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We will seek friendship and goodwill with the nations of the world,

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but we do so with the understanding that it is the right of all nations

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We do not seek to impose our way of life upon anyone, but rather,

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We will shine for everyone to follow.

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We will reinforce old alliances and form new ones, and unite

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the civilised world against radical Islamic terrorism,

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which we will eradicate completely from the face

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Mark Urban, our diplomatic editor, joins me. Essentially, this was his

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foreign policy that he laid out. Absolutely, in five statements.

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National interest first, protectionism and all of it, not

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seeking to impose our system on others, rejection of the George W

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Bush doctrine in Iraq and elsewhere, but also comforting words for Russia

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and China potentially. Then you have got him saying, reinforce old

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alliances, little words of comfort for Nato, I think, and work to

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establish new ones, who knows, maybe with Russia. And then the strong

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statement about eradicating militant Islamic terrorism around the world.

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And we have learned more about what he is doing in office. Yes, some

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changes on the US president website, mentions of climate change removed,

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mentions of the US department of defence, the penchant of the pipe on

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their money being removed, which was put there by Republicans to hamper

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President Obama. A lot more money going into defence. New missile

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defence plans also announced tonight. Just before we came on air,

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general Mac is confirmed, as secretary defence, one down, 659

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Trump officials requiring Senate confirmation to go. They really

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aren't ready. They may have the ideas and the big, bold Steve Bannon

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policy platform that we heard on the day, but they don't yet have people

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in place to deliver it. ... We can hear the marching bands behind us

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and the helicopters the silence. You have been on the streets this

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evening. Is the mood is to mark -- give us a sense of the mood. One of

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the Trump supporters yelled, we did it, but not that infused by the

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content of the speech. There are lots of people on the streets who

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are also opposed, black bloc anarchists, people like that who

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have been damaging property during the day. The police say around 100

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people were arrested, so the scale of it is limited, but it has caused

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a sharp change in the apathy of the city. From tomorrow, the question

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will be, what is this new administration going to look like,

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what shape will it take and how will it govern?

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Out of capitalism's cauldron of success and excess comes a man

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who, his backers say, embodies New York.

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Brash, outspoken, self-proclaimed Master of the Deal, the president

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America has chosen to send from this mecca of can-do to the political

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And what might we expect from this administration

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Well, central to the answers in all those cases is the business

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culture of this place and Trump's projection of his image,

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that he is the man who can get the best deal for America

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To deliver success, Trump has turned to people like Texas

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On the shortlist for a Cabinet job, his contact with the transition team

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convinced him they were more interested in delivery

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They are really interested in looking outside the box

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and getting business people in there, people that might

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It's not so much about being a conservative as being pragmatic.

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They want people that can identify the problem and fix it.

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The process of auditioning Cabinet picks went on for weeks.

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Even some who'd been bitterly critical rode the golden lift up

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Not exactly, thinks one "never-Trump Republican" on an alleged

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One theory is that he actually doesn't care if you oppose him

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Second theory is that he enjoys humiliating people, and of course

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most of those visits were done very publicly.

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Third possibility is that he was actually casting for a reality

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television show called The American Presidency.

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As for Trump's business reputation, is it overblown?

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In Atlantic City, the Taj Mahal casino was launched

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with a characteristic jackpot of Trump hyperbole.

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He called it the eighth wonder of the world, and focused

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You see a tale of two cities, in a lot of ways.

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You see glamour on the Boardwalk in certain sections of town but,

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if you go to other parts of the city, you see

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The Taj Mahal closed down a few months ago

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He'll draw the line of where he cares and doesn't care...

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In 2005, as part of an attempt to turn things round,

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he sent Randal Pinkett, the winner of his reality show

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I believe he left Atlantic City worse than he found it,

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and that to me is another pattern we see with Donald.

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Look at other properties in Mexico, in Florida, where he's made

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promises to others that were not delivered upon.

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There is a long line of individuals who followed Donald's name

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and followed Donald's word and never got what they bargained

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So what's happened now Trump's chosen cabinet

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The questions have come thick and fast in Senate

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Billionaire Betsy DeVos, chosen as Education Secretary,

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was quizzed about tax returns, ethics committee filings,

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holdings in companies providing education services,

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and her basic suitability for the job.

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You can't say definitively today that guns shouldn't be in schools?

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Well, I will refer back to Senator Enzi and the school

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that he was talking about in Wapiti, Wyoming.

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I think probably there, I would imagine that there's

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probably a gun in the school to protect from potential grizzlies.

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But, because Trump has so far sent forward only a fraction

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of the people required to face scrutiny, Republican senators

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we spoke to want to push on, in this case, with a nominee who's

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made substantial campaign donations to 20 of them.

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I can say that it certainly is not troubling to me either way.

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There have been Obama administration officials who have been large

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donors to Democratic causes, so I certainly don't see that

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A lot of the Democrats are very wealthy, too.

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The fact is, are we going to foreclose opportunities to serve

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in this government because a person has been successful in life?

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We ought to be helping a lot more of them come out of the woodwork

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and help us to get this country out of the mess it's in.

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No sooner have Trump's doer and disruptor nominees stepped

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in to the Washington swamp, than the political bindweed has

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begun to wrap itself around their ankles,

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with questions multiplying about tax returns, shareholdings,

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possible conflicts of interest, and questions also about just how

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quickly key Trump policies, like the repeal of Obamacare,

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All tough challenges, when Trump voters expect results.

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In the corridors of Senate buildings, people have come to lobby

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Obviously, he's a different candidate than we've ever seen

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before, so I think he's going to use that to his advantage.

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He's going to make America great again.

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This is Washington politics as usual, with its checks and balances.

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How, then, with a trickle of nominees and their hearings

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slowing down, will Team Trump maintain momentum?

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The transition is going to be a little rough.

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We're going to have to do some things that's going to be a little

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displeasing to get our foothold back on the global stage,

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especially when it comes to trade, but in the long term I am really

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I think this is the most exciting time in my lifetime.

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This president has the potential to be the best

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Some nominees, in defence and foreign policy, have

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differed significantly with the new president, but real

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power resides in the White House, and the way Trump himself behaves

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I believe, on the things he cares about - his image,

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his brand, his celebrity - he cares about them passionately

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and will call, e-mail, tweet, defend himself until 3am.

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On the things he doesn't care about, say, the inner details

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of running the country, he may delegate that or assign

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He will not change his behaviour patterns.

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And so I think there's a good chance we'll get kind of wilful, dangerous

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Now, I think the institutions will help contain it.

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His immediate staff, I believe, will not.

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I think they'll feed it and foster it,

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Few expect the coming weeks to be easy.

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Trump has sold himself as a disruptor who will shake this

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But he's not the first president to promise radical change.

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And Washington ground the others down.

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Walid Phares, President Trump's advisor on the Middle East,

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Nice to have you here. Help us make sense of what Donald Trump's policy

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is now. The talk today about wiping out Islamic terrorism from the face

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of the year. What does that mean in terms of his policy for the Middle

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East. Does he want to join Putin? It doesn't mean he will join Putin in

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Yalta and dividing the world. What it means is that he will think

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deeper and more strategically, to have the right coalition with Arab

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moderates to go after Isis, to make sure that it is not replaced by a

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second version of Isis or Al-Qaeda version three. So whoever comes into

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power is managed by moderates. There will be interaction with President

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Putin. Because if there is an area of coordination over terrorism with

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America and Russia, that will work. Does he want to take American values

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to the Middle East? He said today in his speech and previous speeches, we

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will show our values, show by example. If these societies want to

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follow, we will be happy. He showed example of millions of immigrants

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wanting to come here. He knows that our values are theirs. He talked of

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America having protected for too long the borders of others and not

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its own. If there was the kind of invasion we saw in Kuwait, for

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example, would America ride to the rescue under Donald Trump? He also

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said we would not abandon our allies. He doesn't just mean Israel,

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he means the Arab Gulf, maybe countries in Eastern Europe if there

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is a problem. He will stick with these alliances. He said we will

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stick with our alliances and build new alliances based on common values

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and common ground is. Do you think he's fundamentally a businessman in

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the role of president? Is he essentially trying to get whatever

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the pragmatic business interests are for America first and foreign policy

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fits into that? He is formed out of two components. I have my own

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experience of meeting with him when he started his career as a

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candidate, a politician. But he was a brilliant CEO of a major

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corporation. I think he will go between being a brilliant CEO with a

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new kind of presidency in the United States. What does that mean in the

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old rules of diplomacy. He spoke to tie one first. He actually accepted

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the call of Taiwan. They rang him. At the same time, while this was

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happening, he had and visors in China talking to the Chinese. What

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was he trying to do, send a message to China, or was that a mistake? He

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has many cards in his hand. He was saying, why should I do what China

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once before negotiating with the Taiwanese what we want. Should

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America's allies be worried about the new America that is surfacing?

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They have seen what he has said about Nato in the past. He has said

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he will not run to the rescue if Russia invades one of the former

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Soviet satellite states. What can they expect from America? I spent a

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whole year as one of his foreign policy advisers in the campaign.

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Mostly I was talking to diplomats, governments, international media,

:27:30.:27:32.

very concerned about a Trump presidency. We explained to them he

:27:33.:27:36.

doesn't want to dismantle Nato, he wants to reorganise it. Many

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Europeans, especially in East Europe, are worried by the democracy

:27:43.:27:46.

in Brussels. And Europe has been hit by jihadists. We need to have some

:27:47.:27:49.

resources in the Middle East and bring in moderates. There is a

:27:50.:27:54.

difference between getting rid of bureaucracy. Everybody talks about

:27:55.:27:58.

getting rid of bureaucracy and saying, if you get invaded by Putin,

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sorry, this isn't our problem any more. That's where the difference

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lies. Where is he? He made statements also about shutting down

:28:08.:28:11.

immigration from Muslim countries. He made many statements during the

:28:12.:28:14.

campaign but spent many months after that mould the statements into

:28:15.:28:18.

political and foreign policy documents that are very important.

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He doesn't want to abandon allies, he wants to sit down with them and

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make sure this alliance is working. That sounds like what you are

:28:29.:28:31.

explaining to us, he says one thing in the campaign and then understands

:28:32.:28:34.

it better and says something else. Is that how it works? His

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predecessor Obama said so meetings on the campaign trail and said a few

:28:41.:28:43.

days ago before he left, we couldn't do so much. We have been very much

:28:44.:28:49.

educated by being in government. That's the experience trouble also

:28:50.:28:53.

have. When he says he will eradicate Islamic terrorism from the face of

:28:54.:28:56.

the earth, do you believe him when he says that? I believe he has the

:28:57.:29:02.

intention of going after jihadists. Everyone would have the intention.

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Do you think he has the capability town wisdom and understanding to go

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about the foreign policy in a way that will make sense? Why not? He

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has shown in his foreign policy that he could launch a strategic foreign

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policy flat -- platform. Will the Europeans come together with him?

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The bigger challenge, could we have an Arab alliance working with us? On

:29:29.:29:32.

the ground in the Middle East, they will be the ones to help us. What do

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you think we will come to understand by Trumpism in foreign policy terms?

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He has been criticised as either an isolationist or interventionist. I

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think he's neither of them. He's a functionalist. It's in the function

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of the American interest and the interest of our allies. Thank you

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for joining us. In his speech, Donald Trump talked

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about American carnage, And the crime, and the gangs,

:29:58.:29:59.

and the drugs, that have stolen too many lives and robbed our country

:30:00.:30:05.

of so much unrealised potential. This American carnage stops right

:30:06.:30:13.

here, and stops right now. To all Americans, in every city near

:30:14.:30:31.

and far, small and large, from mountain to mountain, from Ocean to

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Ocean, hear these words. You will never be ignored again. Your voice,

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your hopes and your dreams will define our American destiny, and

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your courage and goodness and love will forever guide us along the way.

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Together, we will make America stronger again we will make America

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wealthy again, we will make America proud again, we will make America

:31:09.:31:17.

safe again and, yes, together, we will make America great again. Thank

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you, God bless you and God bless America. Thank you.

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That was the end of the speech. Joining us now, Ben Smith, editor in

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chief of Buzzfeed, Politico's Susan Glasser and Michael Wolff. Many

:31:42.:31:43.

people thought they heard echoes of Steve Bannon through this speech.

:31:44.:31:49.

Did it have is an print on him? I think I'm looking for a word more

:31:50.:31:53.

than a thumb print. It was Bannon all in. This was what Steve Bannon

:31:54.:32:00.

has been doing during the campaign. He joined it from August on and this

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is the point of view he has been expressing to me, to anyone that's

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talk to him, and also to Trump again and again. This is all Steve Bannon.

:32:10.:32:17.

How much of the heavy lifting do you think that Trump himself will be

:32:18.:32:21.

doing? How would you divide the work that is going on? Lely, Steve

:32:22.:32:27.

Bannon's paw prints are all over this, but it echoed his convention

:32:28.:32:34.

speech, which wasn't quite as tight but which was dark, combative, about

:32:35.:32:39.

the carnage in America and a nationalist vision. I think it's

:32:40.:32:44.

also Donald Trump, and I think he is going to be president of the United

:32:45.:32:48.

States and he is going to be making the key decisions, and there is a

:32:49.:32:52.

lot of uncertainty about those. When John Kasich was originally asked to

:32:53.:32:57.

be the vice president, and Trump's son was reported to have said to

:32:58.:33:00.

him, you will have domestic policy, you will have home policy, and John

:33:01.:33:07.

Kasich said, what will Donald Trump do? And the sunset, he's going to

:33:08.:33:11.

make America great again. Do you think he will start metering it out,

:33:12.:33:20.

some two Ivanka, Sumter Jared? The American government is very complex.

:33:21.:33:23.

But Donald Trump will be president, he will be the one making the

:33:24.:33:28.

important decisions. I don't think anybody knows what they are going to

:33:29.:33:34.

be yet. Worthy Democrats right to stay awake today? We understand up

:33:35.:33:37.

to a third of them didn't show up to the house, and the lone figure of

:33:38.:33:41.

Hillary Clinton Rob Lee could have used their support. I think the

:33:42.:33:46.

Democrats who counted, the ones who mattered, the leadership, even

:33:47.:33:51.

people who really disagreed, not only with Hillary Clinton but also

:33:52.:33:54.

Donald Trump, did show up, and I think that was an important

:33:55.:33:59.

statement. We Americans are very good at forcing our politicians when

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they lose in two forms of ritual humiliation. Al Gore, as president

:34:03.:34:08.

of the Senate, had to sit there and oversee the disputed counting of the

:34:09.:34:13.

electoral votes. This is not unprecedented, but certainly I think

:34:14.:34:16.

it was a colourful spectacle to many Americans today to see Hillary

:34:17.:34:20.

Clinton in her white suit that one expected she would wear in a

:34:21.:34:24.

different context showing up today, in her capacity not as the defeated

:34:25.:34:29.

presidential candidate but as the former First Lady. So many questions

:34:30.:34:35.

now for all of us about how to interpret the narrative about what

:34:36.:34:39.

happened over the next four years. Bob Woodward, the investigative

:34:40.:34:42.

journalist, told me yesterday, you've got to be so neutral you

:34:43.:34:46.

can't stand it. I wonder how you approach it now. It sounds like he's

:34:47.:34:52.

not liberal. Because what? Lee because you say you have to be so

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neutral you can't stand it. The point neutrality is that is where

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you should be. Did you think about being neutral when Buzzfeed

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published the dossier that everybody had chosen not to? We were certainly

:35:09.:35:12.

been neutral. There was no question that we wouldn't have published it

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if it was about the Democrats. The question of new territory is going

:35:17.:35:24.

to be -- the question of neutrality. I don't think they would have

:35:25.:35:28.

published it. You say that with no evidence. It will be interesting to

:35:29.:35:34.

see who angles for access. Weekend to get into these stale debates

:35:35.:35:37.

about the meaning of objectivity, who is in... The thing as

:35:38.:35:45.

journalists that should concern everyone, of your personal

:35:46.:35:50.

preferences, is, where is the role of journalism and independent

:35:51.:35:53.

reporting any more in our society? What concerns me, as somebody who

:35:54.:35:59.

has spent the last two and a half decades as an independent

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journalist, that doesn't mean I don't have opinions but I try hard

:36:01.:36:05.

to cover both parties. In this campaign, the role of facts seemed

:36:06.:36:11.

to be overwhelmed by a my asthma of misinformation, disregard for the

:36:12.:36:13.

kind of reporting that up until now... Is there anyway that Donald

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Trump will act in terms of how the reporting goes about? I think one of

:36:19.:36:24.

the things that Donald Trump does is he plays to the media, or he plays

:36:25.:36:29.

the media in a way that the media falls into this trap every time.

:36:30.:36:34.

Effectively, and I have never seen this in all my long years, in this

:36:35.:36:40.

business, the media is the opposition, the media is the

:36:41.:36:46.

political resistance. Because the Democrats aren't? Democrats are

:36:47.:36:51.

famous for their internal divisions. Republicans have a lot of them, too.

:36:52.:36:58.

Many people have said, Michael among them, that it's like there is a

:36:59.:37:02.

third party in Washington today, the Trump party, then the Republicans

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and Democrats. It isn't the political partisan resistance. He

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media afflicts those in power. There is even more pressure to now get

:37:13.:37:16.

things right and not just publish things that could be completely...

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The media has always been under pressure to get things right.

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Questions like, how long should you sit on a secret document that is

:37:26.:37:29.

being fought over? We can disagree about those. But you'd do it again?

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Yes, and the notion that the media... Did you have regrets? Yes,

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I would. But the notion that the media, as you seem to adopt as the

:37:46.:37:50.

political resistance, that's obviously how Donald Trump was

:37:51.:37:54.

trying to position it, that was the aim of this press conference. His

:37:55.:37:59.

main conflict with the media was when he said something false and the

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media reported it was false. That doesn't strike me as opposition but

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doing our job. He has weaponised this term fake news, right? I think

:38:07.:38:13.

it's a phoney term and it came in at the term against him, and then it

:38:14.:38:18.

was turned around, because he's very good at this. Again, that's another

:38:19.:38:26.

example of where, I think, right where the fight is going to be. It's

:38:27.:38:31.

going to be between Donald Trump and the media, partly because the media

:38:32.:38:34.

is so unpopular, and it's going to work for him. That's not the issue.

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We will come back to our panel in a short while.

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In 2008, Barack Obama called slavery America's original sin.

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But how much of a difference did his presidency make to the lives

:38:45.:38:48.

And what does Donald Trump's election say about attitudes

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Gabriel Gatehouse reports from Louisiana.

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The Westmont rebels hold their final rehearsal. I'm really excited and

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jumpy and really ready. I can barely sleep. They are one of ten high

:39:30.:39:35.

school bands chosen to play at the inauguration to mark the transition

:39:36.:39:39.

from Barack Obama to Donald Trump. We don't see colour, race, gender or

:39:40.:39:48.

ethnicity. We see potential. I think there's been a lot of talk about how

:39:49.:39:53.

we need healing, and sometimes we have to quit picking at it. Morgan

:39:54.:39:59.

Freeman on time was quoted as saying, if you don't like racism,

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stop talking about it. If there is anyone out there who still doubts

:40:07.:40:13.

that America is a place where all things are possible, tonight is your

:40:14.:40:16.

answer. That was the era of yes, we can,

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when black America seemed poised to claim a confident, a Powell, a

:40:31.:40:35.

parity long denied it. # In so reckless when I wear my

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Jumanji dress # In sofas acid...

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But America wasn't ready. For me, this is a race war will stop you

:40:57.:41:05.

have black against white, white against black.

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From the swamps of Washington to the south, beneath the surface of the

:41:15.:41:29.

post-racial society, fear, anger. And the deep roots of a history

:41:30.:41:35.

still unresolved. Get him out of there! Get out! Get him out of here!

:41:36.:41:43.

If they think that we are going to go back to the old days, they've got

:41:44.:41:47.

something else coming to them. We're not having that no more.

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The final week of the Obama presidency began with the annual

:42:00.:42:04.

commemoration for a man who gave his life for the civil rights struggle.

:42:05.:42:09.

America has come a long way since then. In New Orleans, a mark doctor

:42:10.:42:15.

King's memory with a show of sartorial pride. Our self-esteem has

:42:16.:42:22.

grown from us knowing about each other, so black males see each other

:42:23.:42:25.

is a greater image than those portrayed in media and music, those

:42:26.:42:28.

negative images we've been told about. In this respect, the Obamas

:42:29.:42:36.

scandal free tenure at the White House that has huge symbolic value.

:42:37.:42:42.

How old are you? Do you know about the president is? Barack Obama. Do

:42:43.:42:51.

you know who it was before him? See? All you've ever known was Obama. So

:42:52.:42:55.

his life, this is normal. It is normal for him to see a black man as

:42:56.:43:02.

the head of the free nation. Yes. A symbol is a powerful thing. The very

:43:03.:43:08.

fact of Obama's unlikely presidency is expanded the concept of what is

:43:09.:43:12.

possible for millions of Americans, both black and white. But, when it

:43:13.:43:18.

comes to cold, hard statistics, the truth is that, if you are black in

:43:19.:43:23.

America, the odds are still stacked against you. In 2013, the median net

:43:24.:43:31.

worth of a white American household was over $140,000. For black

:43:32.:43:37.

households, that figure was 11,000. That's 13 times less. Under Obama,

:43:38.:43:45.

the wealth gap has widened. Travel up the Mississippi from New Orleans

:43:46.:43:49.

and you come to Baton Rouge, one of the most divided cities in the

:43:50.:43:53.

United States. To some kids at inner-city high schools, the

:43:54.:43:57.

education they get on the street can seem more important than on offer in

:43:58.:44:04.

the classroom. You can go out there tomorrow, have your pistol, should

:44:05.:44:09.

somebody, then you end up in prison for the rest of your life. ... After

:44:10.:44:17.

"Silky Slim" read is a former gang member turned activist whose mission

:44:18.:44:22.

is to stop young black men following in his footsteps. It 2017 and you

:44:23.:44:30.

are still walking around, looking and acting exactly like slaves. And

:44:31.:44:37.

the world is looking at you as animals. Why was to mark -- why?

:44:38.:44:47.

Barack Obama often told black Americans they had to take

:44:48.:44:50.

responsibility for the problems in their own community. Silky agrees up

:44:51.:44:57.

to a point. Black lives after to black people before they matter to

:44:58.:45:02.

the rest of the world. But there are also inequalities that are systemic

:45:03.:45:05.

and ingrained. And you are black, you are more likely to be arrested,

:45:06.:45:10.

likely to get a longer jail sentence and more likely to be shot dead by

:45:11.:45:14.

police. Obama only engaged with this late in his presidency, with limited

:45:15.:45:20.

results. Black quarterbacks on the team of white supremacy hasn't

:45:21.:45:24.

helped us, so a black quarterback that can't help us if the law is the

:45:25.:45:29.

law. The same for a black president. Black folks come on the whole,

:45:30.:45:37.

politically, didn't gain anything because, at the end of the day, we

:45:38.:45:42.

didn't ask for anything, we didn't want to put that burden on the black

:45:43.:45:46.

man who made it the White House. If you don't ask for nothing, you don't

:45:47.:45:50.

get nothing, so you can't be disappointed, which is why there is

:45:51.:45:54.

no disappointment. Witch the black community gave Obama a free pass?

:45:55.:45:57.

Absolutely, he is one of us. Looking at a demographic map of

:45:58.:46:07.

Baton Rouge, you will see this road, Florida Street, is a stark dividing

:46:08.:46:11.

line. Everything to the north is overwhelmingly black. Everything to

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the south is mostly white. I spent time in divided cities, places like

:46:18.:46:23.

Baghdad and Beirut, places that have had a war. There hasn't been a war

:46:24.:46:28.

here since the 1860s when the North fought the Confederacy over the

:46:29.:46:32.

issue of slavery. But last summer, it felt like war wasn't far off. The

:46:33.:46:37.

killing of a Alton Sterling, the latest in a string of fatal police

:46:38.:46:41.

shooting is caught on camera. They are shooting right now. There's an

:46:42.:46:46.

officer down. Two days later at a black lives matter protest in

:46:47.:46:50.

Dallas, a black gunmen opened fire on police, killing five. Not long

:46:51.:46:55.

after that, more officers were shot dead in Baton Rouge. To me, this is

:46:56.:47:00.

a race war. You have black against white, white against black. There

:47:01.:47:05.

wouldn't be so many black people against white people, I think, if it

:47:06.:47:12.

wasn't for police brutality. This woman knew Alton Sterling. She's

:47:13.:47:16.

part of a growing movement of radical black activists. She says

:47:17.:47:19.

tensions between the black community and the police have brought an old

:47:20.:47:24.

enemy back out into the open. Last year the Ku Klux Klan and Aryan

:47:25.:47:29.

nation put out flyers recruiting members. This was right after Alton

:47:30.:47:34.

Sterling was killed. They had it on the news where they were putting

:47:35.:47:37.

notes on people's doors and going through the neighbourhood. They rang

:47:38.:47:44.

the number on the leaflet and it went through to a pre-recorded

:47:45.:47:47.

message that has clearly been updated in the last couple of days.

:47:48.:47:51.

You have reached the White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

:47:52.:48:04.

Hail Trump! Hail our people. Hail our victory! Not long after the

:48:05.:48:13.

election, a group of white nationalists gathered to discuss the

:48:14.:48:18.

new political landscape. The final speaker was Richard Spencer, who

:48:19.:48:25.

coined the term alt-right, a move associated with Donald Trump's

:48:26.:48:28.

former campaign CEO, Steve Bannon, not President, but now one of the

:48:29.:48:31.

most powerful men in the White House. The miracle was that until

:48:32.:48:37.

the last generation, a white country designed for ourselves and our

:48:38.:48:38.

posterity. This then is the context in which

:48:39.:48:52.

Donald Trump takes office. Yes, America's new president has publicly

:48:53.:48:54.

disavowed support from over at racists. But still, the shadow of

:48:55.:49:03.

the plantations, the memory of Jim Crow, the legacy of America's

:49:04.:49:08.

original sin, all seemed to loom large over this new presidency. I

:49:09.:49:12.

look at it like the master has reclaimed his house. It's the

:49:13.:49:17.

master's place, and I know my place come out in the field. I stay in a

:49:18.:49:21.

field, not try to get up to the house. Even though the master allows

:49:22.:49:25.

one of the slaves to look out for the house when he is on vacation,

:49:26.:49:29.

it's still the same fight we've had... In all seriousness, obviously

:49:30.:49:36.

there's a huge legacy of slavery, but you can't say that things

:49:37.:49:41.

haven't changed since... Since the 1860s. Definitely. And since the

:49:42.:49:49.

1960s. There is no forced free labour here with slaves. And what

:49:50.:49:56.

America has been successful in doing is creating slums and ghettos,

:49:57.:50:02.

putting you in these areas and making the police still oversee you

:50:03.:50:03.

like we are still on a plantation. AMERICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM PLAYS. So

:50:04.:50:21.

America begins a new chapter in its long book on race. Weaving in the

:50:22.:50:26.

history of slavery, segregation, with that of Martin Luther King and

:50:27.:50:34.

the Obama era. This 11-year-old has known no other president. For many

:50:35.:50:37.

children, Trump was at first a frightening prospect. We were all

:50:38.:50:43.

thinking, would he send us back to Africa? That was your first thought?

:50:44.:50:49.

That you might not be allowed to be an American any more? Yes Sir. That

:50:50.:50:58.

sounds like a scary thought. Yes, at first we went through withdrawal and

:50:59.:51:01.

we thought it was going to happen, it's going to happen. But we were

:51:02.:51:05.

talking about it one day at school and we thought, it can't happen

:51:06.:51:13.

unless everybody said yes to it. She's ambitious, after Harvard Law

:51:14.:51:16.

School she wants to go on to be America's first black female

:51:17.:51:21.

president. I feel like he's going to try to make everything harder for

:51:22.:51:26.

blacks to get into it. Everything harder for Hispanics to get into it.

:51:27.:51:30.

Anything harder for people of colour to try to be or do something. She

:51:31.:51:36.

has one of those teachers you remember for the rest of your life,

:51:37.:51:39.

somebody who helps you make sense of a bewildering world. I think people

:51:40.:51:47.

were sick of talking about race. White people or black people or

:51:48.:51:53.

everyone? I would say... From my experience, mostly white people.

:51:54.:51:57.

It's overwhelming, I can understand that. From a perspective when you've

:51:58.:52:01.

never had to deal with it, you can't understand why we keep bringing it

:52:02.:52:06.

up over and over again. I think especially, with a heightened sense

:52:07.:52:11.

of awareness of police shootings and police brutality and the injustices

:52:12.:52:18.

being so blatantly put in your face because of social media, white

:52:19.:52:22.

people started to have a backlash. They started to feel like, nobody is

:52:23.:52:26.

representing me. Everybody keeps going on about black people and it's

:52:27.:52:30.

not about me. How can I make it somewhat about me?

:52:31.:52:37.

And so the age of Trump began, as all presidency is usually do, with a

:52:38.:52:46.

promise of inclusivity. To rebuild our country, and restore its promise

:52:47.:52:54.

for all of our people. But Donald Trump's opponents fear quite the

:52:55.:52:58.

opposite. There are those who fear that the new president is a man with

:52:59.:53:03.

a vindictive streak who may use the power of his office to lash out at

:53:04.:53:07.

those who oppose him. I'd like to punch him in the face, I tell you.

:53:08.:53:14.

Many liberals, especially white liberals, see Trump is an

:53:15.:53:20.

existential threat to the founding principles of America. But from the

:53:21.:53:25.

black perspective, things can look a little different. He don't scare me.

:53:26.:53:30.

I'd didn't have any issue before and with Trump, and whatever he do.

:53:31.:53:33.

Because all of them, when they get in there, they do the same thing.

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When black America contemplates the prospect of a hostile, perhaps even

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oppressive state, it shrugs and asks, what else is new?

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That report from Louisiana. It's still early evening here in

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Washington and the Inauguration Day celebrations have a long way to go.

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Behind us on Pennsylvania Avenue, just in front of the White House,

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the marching bands and some of the military bands are taking to those

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streets, blocked off of traffic. Donald Trump has been reviewing the

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inauguration parade. We are hearing Sennett confirmations of more of

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those roles, still a very long way to go. Melania Trump, and Donald

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Trump, who have spent the day watching the celebration say. We are

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joined once more by our panel. Going back to some of those points we saw

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in that video and that we have heard today. Danielle, did it strike you

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how white the crowd was for Donald Trump today Busted it's hard not to

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notice, to be honest. You listen to the speech and you hear about...

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African American men being incarcerated at different rates to

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white Americans for the same crimes. There were forgotten people in

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trouble's speech today. Michael, you heard a woman say people are sick of

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talking about race. I think America is a divided country. And one of the

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ways it's divided, I think, is by race. Although, having said that,

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one of the things that the Trump people say, and not inaccurately, is

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that they did much better with the African-American vote than anyone

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thought they would do. Not to represent them, but just because

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I've been involved in this discussion, and since nobody else is

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going to represent them on this panel... Jump on in. I would say one

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of the things that they say is that this is about jobs and African

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Americans need jobs as much as any other Americans. It could be that

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the Liberals have got a identity politics a bit wrong now. People

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aren't interested in being identified by their race or their

:56:28.:56:31.

parents origin. Or their gender. They want a job. African-Americans

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didn't turn out against Trump in the way Democrats hoped they would. They

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went as energised against him as they were for Obama. There has been

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a history of American policies of people trying to put together class

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-based coalitions, on the left and right at various times. There has

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always been deep racial divisions. Every presidential candidate thinks

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he will be the one to overcome it. What is the answer for Democrats

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trying to rebuild? They haven't done it along the lines of race that they

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thought they would. I think Democrats should embrace the idea of

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an America indivisible. Pursue the idea of eight collective society

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and. There is some truth that identity politics, as we have known

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it over the last few decades isn't the right paradigms to use now. They

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have sort of learned from Trump. I wouldn't say that. Not whatsoever.

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From the point of view of beating -- people fighting for civil rights,

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that's a huge issue. There are people from all sorts of backgrounds

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fighting for equality. Can Donald Trump should unite America by

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leaving aside these issues? That realistic? I think if Donald Trump

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pause, as he says he will, a trillion, 2 trillion, $3 trillion

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into the country, I would say that unites the country. The thing that

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unite the country is... And the President... This is CEO as

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president, somebody saying I will improve your wages and the country

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will get happier. There is a huge missing piece and that's mass

:58:22.:58:24.

incarceration and the criminal justice system. The Department of

:58:25.:58:29.

Justice under Obama did great work in reducing disparities. It

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continues to be a huge issue, and the war on drugs needs to be

:58:35.:58:38.

dismantled. Donald Trump promises to double down on that war on drugs and

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it will continue to divide the country on racial lines. We have run

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out of time. Thank you so much. That brings us to the end of this

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Newsnight Special from Washington. It was Abraham Lincoln,

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a man who had the job of reuniting the country in the midst of civil

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war, who offers a thought "Nearly all men can stand adversity"

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he said, "but if you want to test We have four years, perhaps more,

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to see how that power is used. We'll leave you with a man who,

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today, had to set that power aside. OBAMA: Mr President-elect,

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how are you? # That you found a girl

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and you're married now. # I heard that your

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dreams came true. # Guess she gave you things

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I didn't give to you. # Ain't like you to hold back

:59:44.:59:51.

or hide from the light. # I hate to turn up out

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of the blue uninvited # But I couldn't stay away,

:00:05.:00:08.

I couldn't fight it. # I had hoped you'd see my face

:00:09.:00:12.

and that you'd be reminded

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