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100 days in office, so many accomplishments.

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Lowered my golf handicap, my Twitter following increased by 700.

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And, finally, we can shooot hibernating bears.

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Tomorrow Donald Trump marks 100 days in the White House.

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What has he done to justify the hopes - and the fears -

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There's not a coherent foreign policy, whether it's Russia, China.

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What you can do is you can still get lots of retail sanity, but have some

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wholesale madness riding in the back.

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But this former CIA director thinks the President knows what he's doing.

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Also tonight, are the Tory election strategists

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A weak and unstable coalition government.

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That choice between confidence and chaos.

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Jeremy Corbyn, clearly a security risk.

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For the past 17 years I have been working on and dreaming of a bridge

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that will cross London in complete silence. A bridge with a garden on

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it. The project with serious financial

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issues exposed by this programme has "I'm a nationalist and a globalist",

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President Trump declared yesterday - reminding us of one thing

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above all else. Trump is whatever he decides

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to be, based - some say - A chameleon who picks up

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the colour beneath him, endlessly adaptable,

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in thought and tongue. As he approaches his 100th day

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in office, he candidly admits the job was bigger,

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harder than he thought. He describes tonight

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the potential for a "major, And, it seems now,

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no-one is even surprised. Tonight we look back

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at the beginning of the Trump presidency -

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militarism, the diplomacy, the executive orders

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and of course the tweets - and ask if his heart is really

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in it for the long haul. First, here's his first 100

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days in 100 seconds. Donald Trump has governed

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as he campaigned. His relentless focus on ratings

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landed him in hot water early on. This was the largest

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audience to ever witness This kind of dishonesty in the media

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is making it more difficult... He set about his executive

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orders with zeal. Then came the travel ban,

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blocked by the courts By Valentine's Day, he lost his

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National Security Adviser. But his address to Congress

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was praised as presidential. His attempts to smear Obama

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for spying were unsuccessful. His attempts at humour incurred

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the stony Merkel glare. But it was the health bill that

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fully exposed his frailty, a President caught between Democrats

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who found it too harsh, We came really close today,

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but we came up short. Day 77 showed his military muscle,

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shots fired on Assad's Syria. What he moved by dying

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children, or by the memory He confirmed Neil Gorsuch

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on the Supreme Court. A day later, to everyone's surprise,

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dropped the Mother Of All And we will be stronger,

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and bigger, better... The first 100 days of Trump has been

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volatile and spontaneous. Did his legion of fans or his

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manifold critics expect any less? As a candidate he opposed

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Nafta and Nato - he's As a candidate he swore

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to put America first - but turned his military

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might on Syria. Trump has pulled in credible people

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to the roles of Defence and Secretary of State and National

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Security. But no-one knows if he trusts his

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own daughter's judgments more. So what does Trump's foreign

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policy now look like? And is he following a strategy

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or just a voice in his head? Here's our diplomatic

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editor Mark Urban. American foreign policy is made in a

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looking glass world, shaped by powerful officials, competing

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agencies and interest groups. But the President's role is crucial, and

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this President, it is clear, puts domestic issues first. We are

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getting a lot of things done. I don't think there has ever been

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anything like this. He hasn't travelled abroad during his first

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100 days, and the prevailing view in Washington is that he has devolved

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much of foreign policy-making to his Cabinet. This does not amount to a

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coherent view of foreign policy. There is not a coherent foreign

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policy, a coherent sense of what our priorities are, our attitude towards

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human rights, what that should be. You know, how we should develop

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certain alliance relationships, how we should have a long-term strategy

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for dealing with opponents, whether it is Russia, China, what have you.

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What you can do is you can still get lots of retail sanity, but have some

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wholesale madness riding in the back. Under Obama, the military

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complained of micromanagement. Trump, by contrast, has signed off

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broad powers to the Pentagon. From Syria to Afghanistan, Somalia and

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Libya, more Americans are heading in harms way. Rules of engagement are

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being relaxed and, if the military wants to drop the mother of all

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bombs, so be it. Trump has given them what they wanted. But what he

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hasn't given them is policy boundaries. He hasn't given them his

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full philosophy, his worldview, his risk calculation about how much risk

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he is willing to take in terms of civilian casualties or other things,

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so that they can actually operationalise. I think it is really

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detrimental to our men and women in uniform who want to know if the

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justification for why they are taking risks is going to stay the

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same from day-to-day. As for the non-kinetic, or soft power side of

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life, the new Secretary of State has had to accept a 39% budget cut and

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is only now, after initially being frozen out by the White House,

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assuming a bigger role. So, if Trump has discarded some of his wilder

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campaign rhetoric, about Nato being obsolete, having a trade war with

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China or cosying up to Putin, what is the problem? Particularly if he

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has done so as a result of listening to expert members of his Cabinet.

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Well, the President's foreign policy critics would say all he knows how

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to do is respond to day-to-day stimuli, that he's got no idea of an

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overall strategy. Underlying the policy vacuum is the slowness of

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appointments by this administration. The State Department has 200 vacant

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political posts, from ambassadors to assistant secretaries and policy

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division heads. Maybe I could be accused, the last administration

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could be accused of being too focused on process. The fact is, put

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people like Secretary Mattis, secretary Tillerson, they don't just

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come in and make decisions, they have to work through various levels

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that people have worked over the issues at levels below them, and

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made sure we were doing something that was smart, and made sense with

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overall foreign policy objectives. That is largely made by the whole

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contingent of political appointees, many of whom are Senate confirmed,

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that are largely absent from this administration. Some blame the

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absence of political appointees for the recent mishap where a carrier

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was sent by the White House to be heading for Korea, when actually it

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was far away and getting further. Underlying all of the criticisms is

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a view that, with some changes of course by the President himself, it

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is he that lack strategy and fosters uncertainty. He will never come to

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see the importance of consistency and predictability, stability and

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maturity in foreign affairs. He still believes it is a good thing to

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be unpredictable, that it is a good thing to be very spontaneous and

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very transactional. That's very dangerous. Ultimately, the efficacy

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of Trump's delegated approach is likely to be tested in a crisis,

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with a host of issues, from Korea to Iran or Syria and resolved, that may

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not be long in coming. Joining me now from New York

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is Ambassador James Woolsey, former director of the CIA who also

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advised President Trump And from DC, Janine Davidson,

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who served as Under Secretary of the US Navy under President

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Obama. It is very nice to have you both.

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Ambassador Woolsey, if I can start with you, do you understand a

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foreign policy on what Jon does? I think one may be starting to emerge.

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The first 100 days of any administration is not a good time to

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expect consistency and coherence. We are doing our American checks and

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balance thing. The checks and balances often run away with the

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substance. The bright side of that is that President Trump has been

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willing to rethink some things that he thought he got wrong. I think he

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was focusing too much on the probability of very cordial

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elections with Russia, took another look at it and is now starting to

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come I think, take a tougher line. He did sort of reverse with China,

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having put out some very strong statements about trade, and then

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thinking about it a bit, realising, yes, the Chinese are trying to

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dominate the South China Sea, and we don't like that. But he is getting

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along with China a lot better, I think, than he was. Let me put that

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to Janine Davidson, I guess that is right, every President lives on the

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job, there is no other way to do it and we should encourage a President

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that feels able to change his mind when he sees things differently?

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Sure, I genuinely hope that a bus of the Woolsey is correct and what we

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are seeing here with these strange reversals is a President who is

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learning. I like to think that is the case. It does coincide with his

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changeover in the national Security Council, his appointment of

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McMaster, which is probably the smartest thing he has done. However,

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the array of actions, words, flipping and flop and we have seen,

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as you have just described, is troubling. It is too soon to tell if

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what Ambassador Woolsey is saying is true, we should see consistency from

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here on out. I don't think what we have seen in his temperament so far

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leads us to believe we are going to see that consistency. I still worry

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that we are going to have a rocky road. Do you take that on board?

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That it is about temperament, not about changing your mind on certain

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issues, it is about the fact nobody can see where you are going, where

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your last action has come from accept as the last thought in your

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head? I think one doesn't want to overestimate what I call President

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Trump's shtick. A vaudeville turn. What does that mean? His playful

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demeanour, as part of attracting experimentation. What he has done,

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in small meetings, and I have only been in a couple, he's extremely

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reasonable, very straightforward. He asks good questions, he answers

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questions well. He's a normal, rational, smart human being. If he

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goes from there, as he with one meeting with me, before 10,000,

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15,000 people, he gets really bombastic. It is a personality

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trait. A lot of people thought it was a terrible thing to be acting

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that way during the campaign, and then he won the presidency. But you

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can't afford to have that trait, can you? He is now the US President, he

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has military men and women wondering if they are going to be asked to

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perform uniform and go to war and he is talking about bombing over

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chocolate cake and mixing of Iraq and Syria. It can't get more serious

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than that, can it? Well, to those that work with him, I think he is

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rational and stable. I don't think one ought to exaggerate that

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bombastic, what I call shtick. Again, I hope what you are saying is

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true, but being the President of the United States is, by definition, a

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very theatrical role. You have to be a grown-up about it. What you say

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has the consequences. Coming out of the gate like he did and saying so

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many of the things he said, Nato is obsolete, now it is no longer

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obsolete. Being bombastic like that, like you described, it has our

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allies asking questions. Can we trust the President? If he is going

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to say something one day and flip on it the next, how can we be trusting

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of him? This is very important for national security. It rests on our

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alliances and they need to be able to trust us. It is a somewhat

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bombastic way to say our allies need to kick in 3% in Nato and not doing

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it. He could have been a bit more polite and gracious in the way he

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said it, but he said it in a tough manner and it looks like some of

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them are starting to step up contributions. I'm afraid people are

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going to have to get used to some of his personality style. What about

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his policy style? Janine, let's put this wanted union. He has taken more

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action, he has gone in where Obama indecisive, into Syria, he played

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with Putin in a way people did not expect to do, he has put people on

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edge to send a message. It must be quite impressive, the witty manage

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the relationships? I think some people are attracted by

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the bombastic style. That kind of thing is only going to work once

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because people will wonder whether the first thing he says is

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trustworthy. It's troubling. It's only the first 100 days and I'd like

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to be cautiously optimistic. I will say one thing which is his desire to

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delegate so much, down to the operational and tactical level to

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the military. I have great respect for the military but they are only

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one voice in the national security sphere. Secondly, in order to

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delegate down like that you have to be in sync with your senior advisers

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on your philosophy. I'm not sure we know what his philosophy is. I think

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it's pretty clear we aren't there yet. You don't need a philosophy to

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say... He has stood up to Syria as Obama did not. Obama talked about

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the red Line and shrugged and handed the problem over to the Russians. I

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don't think you can do much worse than that in running American

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foreign policy. He is also accused Obama of spying on him which as a

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CIA director must have had you pulling your hair out. This is a

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very complex subject and we don't have time to deal with it here. Was

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he right? I think everybody finally understood what had happened. The

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point is that he is, I think, working at developing new ideas and

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standing up for what he thinks is right in Syria. And becoming, each

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day, a bit more capable. There will be glitches, there will be problems,

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there will be accidents, but compared with other presidents and

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their first 100 days, I don't think he's far back in the crowd at all. I

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think he's up towards the front. Thank you.

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It was Lynton Crosby in 2015 who urged the then PM to scrape

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Forget, in other words, the peripheral, social issues

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and concentrate on the big stuff, the economy, and make

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the character assassinations personal and profound.

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This time around, it appears, Team May has taken that

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The repeated slogan is back, and the attack on Jeremy Corbyn

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by Boris has that whiff of the PR guru's direction once again.

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So are we back on Groundhog Day, where spontaneity has

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# Wish me luck as you wave me goodbye...#

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At the last election, some people noticed,

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shall we call it, a eerie similarity, between Lynton Crosby's

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attack ads on Ed Miliband and those he run against an Australian

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In any other line of work, this might be considered charging

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Let's see if you can spot the message.

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It will be a choice between strong and stable leadership,

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in the national interest, with me as your Prime Minister.

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The next Prime Minister walking through that door

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You can choose an economy that grows...

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Or weak and unstable coalition government led by Jeremy Corbyn...

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Or you can choose the economic chaos of Ed Miliband...

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Vote for a weak and failing Jeremy Corbyn, propped up

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Into this mix, it's not uncommon for the odd

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We saw that when he fought his own brother.

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He's just an Islingtonian herbivore and muddleheaded mugwump.

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All designed to get us talking about whether Jeremy Corbyn is a mugwump.

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If you are the Prime Minister, though, you never engage

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in mudslinging or deviate off the core message.

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What I recognise is that what we need in this country

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What Sir Lynton Crosby get paid the big bucks to know

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is that there are really only two election campaigns you can run.

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If you're in opposition, you run "Time For A Change."

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In government, you run "Don't Risk A Change."

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That'll be ?500,000 and a share of the ad spend, please.

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Ayesha Hazarika was Special Adviser to Ed Miliband during the 2015

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election campaign, and is now a spin doctor and stand-up comedian.

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Rebecca Lowe-Coulson was a parliamentary candidate

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for the Conservative Party in 2015, and now contributes

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You both remember what it was like on the stump and what it was like to

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have Lynton Crosby in charge, then. Talk us through, Rebecca, do you

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sense the same strategy is being wheeled out? I think the strong and

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stable leadership message and the coalition of chaos message, the

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long-term economic plan... We are going to get that 30 times a day.

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People are already counting. This is done the political procedure these

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days, I think. As a candidate, what did you have? Did you have your list

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of things you had to get in on the doorstep? There was definitely an

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attempt to get candidates to stay on message. That's something that comes

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with Lynton Crosby. I was running in a non-target seat so I had a bit

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more freedom over this. Theresa May is somebody to whom messaging is

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more important in general. Under David Cameron I think the broad

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message was we need to fix the economy. Under Theresa May we've

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seen, from her first moments outside Downing Street, one nation

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conservatism, and at the party conference we've seen a country that

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works for everyone. This isn't someone leaving us open to criticism

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is. Under David Cameron we had, we are going to address welfare

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spending. There are great reasons to do that but to fix the economy, not

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so much. Messaging and centralisation are already key to

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Theresa May. Tell us what it was like to be on the receiving end of

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that. It wasn't just the repeated slogans you had and the idea of it

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being chaos under Ed Miliband but it was very personal attacks.

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Absolutely. It was tough because there was this absolute relentless

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shelling of the Labour camp with these core messages. We were also

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getting squeezed from the SNP because they were saying, you know,

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we'll be doing some sort of deal. What's different about this election

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to the last election was, and Ed it was more plausible to make that

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argument about the coalition because of the way the numbers were looking.

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And certainly the personalised attacks, particularly from Michael

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Fallon, and it's interesting he's been wheeled out again and we've

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seen Boris making highly personalised attacks against Jeremy

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Corbyn. That's the Lynton Crosby playbook and it was very effective

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at the last general election. How did you counter it? Did you go into

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a huddle and say, what is our fightback strategy or did you

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pretend it wasn't there? You are always prepared for the slings and

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arrows in the heat of an election campaign. Our slogan was a better

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plan for a better future, and we had a whole set of policies that we felt

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very confident in. But you know that you're not going to go into an

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election campaign where you're not going to get attacked. We were

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attacking Cameron in terms of, don't let him take us back to the 1980s.

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We had a bit of Britain can do better and all that type of thing. I

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think the message discipline was quite ferocious from the

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Conservatives. The only thing about this time that is slightly

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different, we've had a lot of elections since 2015. We have a 2015

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election, then the EU referendum. I think people are going to be more

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savvy and want to know more than just this mantra. They want to know

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what the Conservatives can offer. They do work. We think we can see

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the strings or feel the strings but they work, presumably. I think

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that's true. I completely agree that to run a fair campaign you have to

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be up against somebody that people are frightened of. I imagine these

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personal attacks on Jeremy Corbyn in terms of more specific, I don't know

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whether its Trident or the IRA comments... I imagine we may see

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this later on if the polls are starting to narrow. At the moment

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it's the strong and stable leadership and it's also Brexit. The

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election campaign is when we normally run along the lines of

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leadership and the economy. Brexit has taken the place of that. Is

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there a danger of them going to personal? I do think there is a

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danger for the Conservatives. Nobody wants this to be a coronation is a

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Theresa May. I think people will think, hang on a minute, you can be

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nasty about somebody but actually what are your policies. The

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Conservatives are steering away from actually saying what they are

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wanting to do. Michael Fallon this week was saying, we aren't going to

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give too much detail in our manifesto. They need to be quite

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wary about that. What does Jeremy Corbyn have to do? Is he somebody

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who thinks of how to cope with strategy... I did think he and his

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team are sitting there doing lots of tactical planning. I don't think

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that's his thing. I think they will basically be doing much more of a

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bread and butter Labour Party issues, the NHS, Brexit, housing,

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education. I think they are the issues the Labour Party should be

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focusing on. And I hate this phrase but I think they have to let Jeremy

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Butler Jeremy. He's a very unique person -- let Jeremy be Jeremy. To

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some extent, you could see Jeremy Corbyn as being a reasonably

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successful leader, on his own terms. He wants to change the narrative.

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Does he want to be Prime Minister? I did think he probably does. That's

:25:40.:25:45.

quite a claim, he wants to be Prime Minister. He wants to be Prime

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Minister. He's not really acting in a way... It's all very good that the

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Conservatives need to be careful about not looking too arrogant.

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There are lots of domestic issues that people are worried about. I

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think they will be fighting the kind of campaign which is people already

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know the Conservatives are holding the fort, this is the kind of

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election campaign with the last time. Theresa May was part of that

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last government. The success they had with schools, the economy.

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People already know this. And on Brexit as well... Until they have a

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coherent policy on Brexit I think it will be hard for them to move up in

:26:23.:26:26.

the polls. Thank you. If you were watching closely last

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year, you may have noticed a series of reports on Newsnight

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about the controversy surrounding The plan was to build a new,

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flowery, pedestrian It was backed by the likes

:26:36.:26:38.

of Joanna Lumley, George Osborne But the scheme became

:26:39.:26:42.

bogged down by delays, we revealed investors were pulling

:26:43.:26:45.

out and there was Well, today the plans appeared

:26:46.:26:47.

completely submerged as London Mayor Sadiq Khan announced

:26:48.:26:50.

he won't spend any more Hannah Barnes did a lot

:26:51.:26:52.

of the running on this story for us and joins me

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now, is this the end? Officially it is not the end but

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unofficially it certainly looks that way. What Sadiq Khan has said is

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that if the bridge were ever to be built, he won't guarantee those

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ongoing maintenance costs. The reason that is seen as the nail in

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the that guarantee is part of the planning permission and other

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licenses that the bridge needs. Without that, they fall foul of the

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planning permission. Of course, it's possible that the team behind the

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bridge could find someone else to guarantee those maintenance costs

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but it looks pretty unlikely, for a few reasons. Firstly, time isn't on

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their side. Planning permission expires at the end of the year. Most

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importantly, they haven't found people to fund the building of the

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bridge itself. Let alone ongoing maintenance costs. We know there's a

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?70 million shortfall. There is already something like ?40 million

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but has disappeared, do we know where that has gone? ?37 million has

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been spent, that's gone. Where has it gone? ?22 million on

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preconstruction, that's it, there's no further detailed breakdown. We

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know the engineers have had a million, the designer has had ?2.6

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million but really, we don't know where that has gone. If this is the

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end of the project, a further ?9 million will have to be paid by the

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government in cancellation costs so that takes you up to ?46 million.

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There was some talk today the Public Accounts Committee should look at

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this, that isn't likely to happen. The chair of that committee called

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it a sad tale. Although the Garden Bridge trust are saying they are

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confident they can still find the money, it's looking difficult to see

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where it's going to come from. Thank you.

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Now the papers. The Guardian has the NHS to pay ?9 million to victims of

:28:50.:28:56.

the rogue surgeon. That's the man who has just been found guilty of

:28:57.:29:01.

carrying out needless breast operations on patients who were left

:29:02.:29:05.

traumatised and scarred. Ian Paterson convicted. The Daily

:29:06.:29:09.

Telegraph has that story, the same cover-up, let the rogue surgeon play

:29:10.:29:16.

God. This accuses the image is of ignoring concerns with a picture of

:29:17.:29:20.

one of his victims. Then a line by the former finance minister of

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Greece who says Germany admitted that posterity would destroy Greece.

:29:25.:29:29.

It was forced to sign up to crippling austerity policies, even

:29:30.:29:32.

though the German finance minister privately admitted he wouldn't have

:29:33.:29:36.

endorsed the deal. On the front of The Times, we've got the suspect who

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has been seized in a raid on an active terror plot.

:29:44.:29:44.

Until then, have a good bank holiday weekend.

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Hello. The bank with a weekend is set to start off promising, with

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some sunshine coming through, largely dry and the wind direction

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from the south. With some sunshine, some warmth. The temperature is

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recovering. Temperatures

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