11/01/2018 Newsnight

How badly our NHS targets being

this? We asked the Health Secretary

last week, and he couldn't answer.

Why won't you tell me

what the number is, the percentage?

It is not my target,

it is your own number.

Because we don't have a number

to publish, there is no number that

I'm sitting on that I am

not telling you.

It will be published next

week and I don't know

what that number will be.

Today we got the true figures.

Waiting time performances

in A&E are at their worst

level for 14 years.

We hear from one doctor

who is feeling it first-hand.

A&E is at breaking point.

We are exceptionally,

exceptionally busy.

Doctors and nurses are being

pushed to the limit.

And patients are having to wait far

too long for the care they deserve,

Also tonight: Guess who fancies

a second referendum on Brexit?

I'm reaching the point in thinking

that we should have a second

referendum on EU membership.

The whole thing?!

Of course.

Why do both sides still think

they would win if we asked

the country to vote all over again?

And what does Europe make of us?

We'll ask the president

of the Eurogroup.

We'll also be joined

by the author of "that" Trump

fly-on-the-wall book,

Fire and Fury, Michael Wolff.

And we report from the ruins

of Mosul in Iraq, where some

estimate that 10,000 people

lost their lives.

In some parts of Mosul,

the smell of death is

pungent even after months

since the battle for the city ended.

The bodies of many residents

are still trapped under the rubble.

Good evening.

It's getting harder by the day

to pretend the NHS is not

in crisis this winter.

Like a rubber band you keep

pulling and pulling,

said one consultant today,

eventually it snaps.

Staff have described patients dying

prematurely in corridors.

But if you want harder figures,

they're here for the taking.

Waiting times performances

in accident and emergency

departments have reached their worst

level in 14 years.

Today a letter from the heads

of more than 60 A&E departments

in England and Wales warned

the Prime Minister that the current

level of safety compromise

is at times intolerable.

Last week, I asked the Health

Secretary Jeremy Hunt how far off

target the waiting figures were.

He didn't have the number.

But today we heard performance

levels were the worst result

since the introduction

of the target in 2004.

Here's Chris Cook.

Accident and emergency figures

are the most visible sign

of the strain now placed

on the English NHS.

Rising patient demand has

overwhelmed the service's

ability to cope.

Let's take a look at monthly A&E

performance going back to 2010.

Since then, emergency departments

have been aiming to deal

with 95% of patients

within four hours.

That target, that is

the dotted line.

That has proved harder

in winter months.

Marked in by these grey bars.

If we draw in the line

showing their performance,

the most striking pattern is that

during the last Parliament,

A&E performance started

to drift away from target.

It is now well off, down at 85%.

The number is even lower.

About 77%.

If you look just at

traditional, major A&Es.

So-called type ones.

And don't think include things

like walk-in centres.

Our hospitals are overfull.

We are miles from where we need

to be to hit our targets.

It means my patients are waiting

in the waiting room,

maybe sometimes standing

because there aren't

even enough chairs.

Patients are waiting in corridors,

patients may have to wait

in the back of ambulances.

And then when patients

even get into a cubicle,

sometimes there are two patients

per cubicle,

just with a temporary partition

between them for a bit of privacy.

It is sometimes just

a number, just a statistic.

But it is having real

effects to patients.

Some individual hospital trusts

have seen astonishing

collapses in performance.

Take the Blackpool and

Royal Cornwall Trust.

They were respectively

at 61% and 77% last year.

Both poor performances.

This year, they dropped

to 40% and 58%.

The NHS is 70 years old this year,

and we know by now the pressures

on it will keep growing.

Medicine is advancing

so it can treat more stuff

and our society is ageing.

But the NHS budget has been growing

at a historically slow rate

since the onset of austerity

under the Coalition.

It keeps becoming ever more

efficient but it can no longer meet

the demands being placed on it.

The underlying problem is best

illustrated by this chart.

The number of people turning up

to A&Es just keeps rising, and this

isn't about people who should not be

there skipping the queue at the GP.

You can see that if you look

at the past 12 months.

The number of people turning up

at major A&Es has risen by 1%

but the number of people sick

enough, turning up to A&E who need

admitting to hospital,

is up by 5.6%.

The underlying pressure

is that we are an ageing society

with rising sickness levels.

And this year, a bad case of flu.

We are seeing the same as we saw

last year with no change and it

could just get worse and worse next

year and the year after and that is

the real worrying thing.

Because we are at breaking point.

Who knows where we will be

if nothing changes by next year?

There are no easy fixes here.

The elastic won't spring

back as winter thaws.

Either we pay more in tax or we'll

pay more in the form

of worse health care.

We asked the Government and NHS

England to join us tonight

but nobody was available.

In a statement, the Department

of Health said it treated

more than 55,000 people

within the four-hour

target every day.

NHS England said it was dealing

with rising flu and record numbers

of admissions but that the service

had managed to maintain A&E

performance at the same

level as last January.

I'm joined by Dr Taj

Hassan, president

of the Royal College of Emergency

Medicine.

We saw there figure is rising up.

Very nice of you to come in. How

accurately do the figures reflect

what happens to you on an average

shift? Described for us, if you can,

your last shift.

It was a busy one.

It involved a significant number of

patients in my department who were

coming in through the front door,

but there was also a significant

number of patients, unfortunately,

that I and my staff were caring for

a should have been on wards in the

hospital. We are effectively

managing a ward for a patient that

should be within the hospital as

well as the ones coming through the

door, so that unfortunately creates

what is called a crowded emergency

department, or exit blocked, because

we can't get them out of our

department, and that causes delays

in assessment, in antibiotics being

given, and delays in pain relief. It

compromises the dignity of the

patients that we care for, which I

think is one of the big things that

nurses and doctors in our department

is care about.

When you say it

compromises the dignity of patients,

does it all so ultimately compromise

their safety, or do you still feel

confident that you are delivering

the same levels of medicine?

We work

in a health service where I think we

have amongst the best health care

workers in the world, people who

were really, really hard, and they

will go the extra mile, but

unfortunately, the Independent

scientific evidence, both from the

UK and internationally, shows that

the more crowded your emergency

department, the greater the risk of

harm to patients, and that has been

proven.

This is not going to get

better now, because of the

demographics and the way that

society is ageing, this is a problem

that we're going to live with or

after solving a totally different

way.

I don't think it should be

something that we should live with,

because unfortunately, over the last

five years, we have had a number of

significant cuts in areas that have

influenced that crowded emergency

department. We have cut £6 billion

out of social care funding, and that

results in patients who are fit from

hospital beds that need to be sent

home, they and their families want

them to be at home, and they can't

get out of hospital. We have cut the

number of Acute Hospital beds by

approximately 15,000, which results

in and exacerbates the exit blocked.

Most importantly, we have had to

compromise in terms of the number of

staff that we're able to employ, for

a variety of reasons.

And that is

critical. Privately, are you having

more hearing conversations by staff

who are saying, actually, why would

I carry on if I am five years away

from retirement, or even ten years,

and take the risk of ever doing

something that could be damaging if

I work in these conditions? Is that

happening?

Over the last few years,

there has been a recognition that in

my specialty, if you rank

specialties for a potential for

burn-out than people leaving

prematurely, emergency medicine sits

at the top, and that is in the

international ranking. We have been

campaigning hard for the last year,

and actually, last October, with the

help of colleagues from NHS England

and NHS Improvement, especially

people like Jim Mackie and Si

Stephens, we were able to go to the

Secretary of State and agree is a

formula and a framework by which we

can deliver better staffing and grow

our workforce and reduce attrition.

-- Simon Stephens. The wider context

is the environment that these people

are working in, and that can only be

influenced by investing. At the

moment, in this country, we are not

investing in social care and acute

bets adequately. -- acute beds. And

we're not investing in our staff.

Thank you for coming in.

Does anyone really think

there should be a second referendum

on our decision to leave the EU?

The latest advocate

of a return to the ballot box

came from unexpected

quarters this morning.

Nigel Farage told Channel 5's

The Wright Stuff that he was warming

to the idea and believed a second

vote would result in

another - much bigger -

win in favour of Brexit.

Have a listen.

My mind is actually

changing on this.

Go on.

I...

What is for certain

is that the Cleggs, the

Blairs, the Adonises

will never, ever give up.

They will go on whingeing

and whining and moaning

all the way through this

process, so maybe, just

maybe, I'm reaching

the

point of thinking that we should

have a second referendum, because...

On what?

On EU membership.

The whole thing?!

Yes, of course, of course.

Unless you want to

have a multiple-choice

referendum, which

would confuse people.

No, no, no, I, I, I...

I think if we had

a second referendum

on EU membership, we'd kill it

off for a generation.

The percentage that would vote

to Leave next time would be

very much bigger than it

was last time round.

I, I...

It may just finish

the whole thing off.

We'll be discussing this in moment

with our guests here.

But first, our political editor,

Nick Watt, is here.

Nick, the story doesn't end there?

That's right, a slight row wingback

by Nigel Farage this evening in the

Daily Telegraph. He has gone from

what he said there, saying maybe we

should have a second referendum, to

saying, I fear that maybe there

would be a second referendum if

Parliament vote down the deal. Today

he spoke at because Brexit

supporters were strongly critical of

him, and remain supporters said

thank you very much. This was

sparked off last week when Tony

Blair said the British people should

have the right to have a say, either

in an election or a referendum on

that final deal. Earlier today, I

spoke to Tony Blair's former

director of communications, Alistair

Campbell, and is as what he had to

say.

And I think, actually, Nigel Farage,

I think we're the reason that Farage

and Johnson and these guys

are getting a little bit desperate

and just trying to take the ball

into the corner flag and just get

the final whistle blown.

Because I think they understand that

as people do see the detail,

do realise the cost and the chaos,

then not only should

they have the right to think again

but I think they will want to think

again and I think they will give

you a very different answer.

And everyone thinks that the polls

would now go their way, which is

fascinating. How do the polls sit?

Interestingly, there is a snap poll

in the daily Mirror after those

Nigel Farage remarks, showing there

is minority support per second

referendum, 43-51, but a majority

support for Remain, 55-45. It is a

snap poll, better to look at the

monthly tracker on that question,

which asks, is it right or wrong to

have left the EU? And that shows

even Stevens,

even Stevens, though since August,

it was wrong has been ahead. There

was a blip of nine points for the

league side. Today, we spoke to

Deborah Martinson of Britain Thinks.

So, we've been tracking this

at Britain Thinks over the last 18

months and the really fascinating

thing is that people's fundamental

views haven't changed

at all in that time.

So really nothing has changed,

other than people are more worried.

But I think the one thing you have

to factor in when you think

about this is the youth vote.

Of course, what we know is that many

more young people voted

in the last election,

people who didn't vote

in the referendum.

If they still vote, then that

could change things.

Joining me now is Diane James,

the former leader of UKIP,

Lucy Thomas, who was deputy director

of the Remain campaign,

and Jeroen Dijsselbloem,

former Dutch Finance minister

and outgoing president

of the eurogroup of eurozone

finance ministers.

Nice to have all of you. Diane, what

was he thinking?

I am not sure! What

was he smoking? It took you by

surprise? It did, this is the sort

of thing Nigel has got form with, he

does have outrageous statements and

in context, I will give my personal

response, I can understand his

frustration with the fact that the

Remainers have not given up in

trying to overturn this decision and

when you hear that Tony Blair

launches a £10 million fund and

there are other organisations

endorsed by the likes of Sir Nick

Clegg and such, they still want to

overturn a democratic vote, it is

quite unbelievable. It will be

interesting to see where this goes.

Would you be up for the fight? Of

course I would. And I brought this

document with me, this future of

Europe, this was released to the

MEPs in October last year and this

actually fleshes out the future of

the European Union. It is a

frightening document in terms of

control. When that is in the public

domain it will be interesting to see

how people react.

Lucy, would you

relish a second chance? For me it

was a democratic decision, people

have had their say and I want to ask

Nigel Farage, why can't you accept

that you have one? What do you not

accept? I have no Nigel Farage for

about ten years and he alone is the

fight, he loves campaigning. You

think this is about publicity? He

wants to remain relevant. The point

of Diane was that Nick Clegg and

Tony Blair do not feel this was

undemocratic terms because of false

promises, is at a reason to go back

to the polls?

There are some former

Remainers who would like a second

referendum but going back to what

Nick said about the polls, public

opinion has not shifted, there isn't

any massive clamour for a second

referendum and I don't think there

is any big push for that. You can

think about once the terms are

known, where people to be suddenly

up in arms and say we don't like

these terms, do you want a second

go?

But the polls are not there. You

were at the vanguard of that, deputy

director, would you fight this in a

different way? Did you look back

with your head in your hands at the

way the Remain campaign went about

that?

I think it was a very hard

campaign to fight. Given that

people, when we first started, it

was 50-50, when we spoke to focus

groups there was no real concept of

what the positives of remaining

wearer. Within six months, there was

a huge amount of work to do to land

those positives, what do we get from

being in the EU? It is a very hard

discussion, not least because in a

referendum when there are choices

and it is a very conjugated

question, people can put all sorts

of different things into the pot.

And our building to take back

control or whatever it is they

choose to put into the pot.

Jeroen

Djesselbloem, what is Europe

thinking about Brexit right now?

Today, after this cry from the

second referendum? I have not heard

anybody in Brussels arguing for a

second referendum. I think people in

Brussels are waiting for what does

the UK government want to have in

the end deal? What does it look

like? We want clarity to move

forward on that.

It is up to the UK

government to decide what that looks

like?

To have a negotiating

position, indeed. Very helpful. No

one in Brussels is questioning the

mandate that the UK government has

coming out of the first referendum,

that is quite clear, there is going

to be Brexit. We are trying to sort

out these conjugated questions, what

does it look like, the future

relationship? My argument, we focus

on trying to solve these issues and

minimise the losses because is going

to be losses on all sides. Let us

focus on that rather than reopen the

debate and going back to zero.

There

is a delicious irony that the only

person questioning the mandate is

the former leader of Ukip, Nigel

Farage! Does it suggest, as Lucy

said, that he just wants to be back

at the centre of attention? Or does

he think that it is not convincing

enough people that this is going in

the right direction?

He has got two

objectives, he wants to expose the

degree of resistance from the

Remainers, that still is with them

in terms of their absolutely

determined to overturn that

decision.

I am not at all and I see

it as a democratic decision, there

isn't this.

But Tony Blair and Nick

Clegg are leading this is the main

issue of overturning that democratic

decision. And the Labour Party is

being very interesting in terms of

denying its position that everything

at once currently would mean staying

in the EU.

That is absolutely not

right, to quote Nigel Farage, he

said before the referendum that if

it were to be narrow and 52 remain,

48 to leave, that would be

unfinished business, and what he

said he would carry on fighting

for... For those people who were

former Remainers and want a second

goal, Nigel Farage himself said

52-42 was too narrow.

What has

changed? We have Tony Blair, Nick

Clegg, Nigel Farage, sitting in a

particular corner saying, wait a

minute, we still believe, given our

previous position, that it is

unfinished business.

I am agreeing

with you. The point was we think we

have left Europe in a certain place

but Europe has moved on. But there's

more interested and in more

integration post written?

That has

been the talk? You have to realise

and the people in the UK have to

understand that Brexit is no longer

on the front pages in Europe and has

not been for some months. It is on

the front pages in the UK every day,

the first three pages. If you open

up the papers on the continent you

will find very little.

Nobody in

Europe is trying to convince Britain

to stay?

You will find individuals.

But there is no drive to reopen this

debate.

That is not entirely true,

the German automotive industry in

the last few days highlighted the

dangers that Brexit is going to

have. Because of the degree of the

volume of cars exported.

You are

agreeing with the German

manufacturing is?!

I am simply

highlighting that there is an

industry that is... Added was

in-built, to stay -- to say it is

not covered by the European press is

untrue.

Do you think the concept of

no deal is a very clever way of

bringing Europe right to the table?

Where Theresa May needs to start

negotiations? My sense is that some

strategic politicians in the UK

thought that if they said, if they

threatened us with no deal, that

would be helpful for their position.

It has completely backfired because

in Europe people are preparing for

the possible outcome of no deal and

the British Government is in panic.

How can it be that they are

preparing no deal? It is going to be

a bad situation, it is a bad

decision, the car industry is right.

It is a political fact for us. And

we need to concentrate on minimising

the damage and getting a good

outcome.

Isn't the truth that the

Europe we will leave in two years

will be a very different shape and

feel to the Europe were part of

right now?

Yes and that is why Nigel

Farage was talking about the

referendum, into what? What would

the terms be? It is not right to say

we would go into what we had before.

I would agree entirely, the decision

has been made, Europe is moving on

and Brexit will happen.

Thank you

all very much indeed.

"Why are we having all these people

from shithole countries come here?"

That, according to the Washington

Post, is what Donald Trump today

uttered during a meeting aimed

at finding a cross-party

deal on immigration.

This revelation comes hot

on the heels of Michael Wolff's book

on the Trump White House.

A bit like any tweet

by the President, Fire and Fury has

caused a stir the ramifications

of which may not truly be understood

for some time to come.

What we do know is that

a bad tempered tiff

between the President and his former

White House Advisor Steve Bannon

over the contents of Wolff's book

has changed the dynamics of the US

political climate with his departure

this week from Breitbart News.

Michael Wolff is with us for his

very first British TV interview,

joining us from New York. Did you

feel when you were writing this

book, but in this book together, did

you feel as if you are trying to

bring down the President?

Quite the

opposite. I went into this project,

into the White House, with an

entirely open mind. I really would

have been willing to write a book

about the unexpected success of

Donald Trump. That, of course, is

not what I found, quite the

opposite. Stop I find a White House

filled with the people closest to

him who turned out to be the people

most worried about him.

When you

talk about going into the White

House, the details are fascinating

from any of us. Give us some sense

of your access. Donald Trump he

denies he spoke to you or that you

had any access, did you walk into

the same place every time? Did you

say hello to the same people?

Yes,

exactly.

exactly. Donald Trump's says that I

had no access and no permission

because I was there for the better

part of seven months. You have to

ask the question, how do they get

there? And the answer is, Donald

Trump. I said to Donald Trump and he

says he doesn't know me but we have

known each other for 20 years. At

any rate, I said that I would like

to come and be an observer at the

White House and he thought I was

asking for a job. I said I wanted to

write a book. And his face fell with

absolute lack of interest in the

idea of the book. But he said OK,

knock yourself out. And with that,

using that, but basically became the

carte blanche for me to enter the

White House, to stay there, to sit

down with almost every member of the

senior staff again and again.

And

with Donald Trump himself, how many

times would you say that you

conversed with him personally since

becoming President?

I have said from

the beginning on this that I have

spent about three hours with Donald

Trump through the campaign, the

transition and in the White House.

Since he became President, how long

would that have been?

From the

inauguration onwards, we had one on

the record session and then I would

see him in The West Wing and we

would chat.

We did not presumably

see Steve Bannon quitting Breitbart

News as a direct consequence of this

book, did you?

I did not anticipate

that, it seems to have been the

outcome.

My question is, you think

that balance remains a key figure on

the ideological right? Will Trump be

weakened or strengthened wi-fi ten?

Will he lose his base? Where he goes

soft or does it make the next year

of elections easier for him?

I don't

think we know the answer to this. It

might well mean that Trump goes to

the traditional Republican side,

does not run the sort of wing nut

party in Congressional races and it

gives the Republicans an advantage.

That is one scenario. Another is

that Steve Bannon decides to take

down Donald Trump.

Could he do that?

Without Breitbart News?

I don't

know. Steve Bannon, his title was

chief strategist in the White House

and he is nothing if not the

ultimate strategist. I would

anticipate that at this point he is

thinking through his options. But I

felt that when he spoke to me for

this book, he was making, on his way

to making a calculated break with

the President, who honestly, he

seemed to regard as an idiot.

I want

to pick up on some of the criticism

of the book, Gillette conflicting

narratives get told, unclear whether

he had been told these things

first-hand, whether you had

conversations, some say it is

directly out of Donald Trump's own

playbook. Why not make it more

rigorous?

Yes, let me talk a little

about this book. The book has become

something more than a book, it has

become a political event. That means

it is going to be the subject of an

enormous amount of controversy, it

means that a lot of people said

things to me and now they find

themselves like Dors in the

headlights. My job on this book and

I really had just one goal, it was

too, as I sat there every day on a

couch in The West Wing, to bring the

reader right there. So that the

reader could experience what I

experience.

You don't regret the

fact that it is so unfiltered?

No.

My job is to bring an absolutely

unfiltered account. It has been

enormous controversy about that but

what I would say is that there is

room for a lot of interpretations of

this White House, not only room but

there will be so it is not just...

There are daily reporters doing a

good job of covering the White

House. But my account, and it is an

account that has obviously resonated

with people, apparently everywhere,

it is a contextual story of what has

happened.

Over these number of

months. Let me ask you... At this

point you have written the book

after he became President. Many

journalists are questioning how they

covered the campaign, is there any

guilt that you or your colleagues

were much too caught up in a very

sensational, sexy story to cover? If

you were going back right now, you

would be covering Trump in a very

different way?

Well, I don't know. I

am not sure that I have any

colleagues, which is part of the

interesting thing that allowed me to

write a totally independent version

of this White House. But I think,

from the beginning, there has been a

problem. Nobody has known how to

cover Donald Trump. When this

administration began, many in the

media said we cannot normalise this

person. Effectively, the media

coverage has formalised it. So the

explosions every day have become so

normal that we can no longer member

what happened the day before. I

would maintain that I actually may

have found a way to write about this

Presidency and this President.

Great

to have you. Thank you.

Time for Viewsnight now.

The concert pianist James Rhodes

publishes a memoir this

week, Fire on all Sides,

in which he recounts his experience

of suffering from mental illness.

This is his take on the

pursuit of happiness.

We're not meant to be

happy all of the time.

The pursuit of happiness seems

like such a noble one.

And yet it is fundamentally flawed.

No one knows for sure how many

civilians were killed in the battle

to liberate the city of Mosul

from the so-called Islamic State.

The city was the group's last urban

stronghold in Iraq before

it was retaken last July

by the country's army with the help

of US-led coalition forces.

Amnesty International has reported

that the civilian death toll

could be up to 10,000 -

more than ten times

the official estimate.

Nafiseh Kohnavard from the BBC's

Persian Service has returned

to Mosul, where the city's former

old town lies in ruins and life

for ordinary Iraqis has anything

but returned to normal.

This street used to be the beating

heart of the old part of Mosul,

Iraq's second most populated city.

Even for a country

which has seen many

battles over the years,

the

destruction here is unprecedented.

Mosul fighting to drive so-called

Islamic State out of its main

stronghold in Iraq has left large

parts of this city in ruins.

Only three years ago,

you could hear the

noise of shops, restaurants and busy

traffic navigating through the

streets.

They have now been replaced

by a deafening silence and a strong

stench of death in the air.

Bodies of Islamic State

fighters are lying

around unburied.

And for survivors like Ahmad,

the struggle hasn't ended.

TRANSLATION:

This is the city that

I grew up in, and we were proud

of it.

It's a shame.

Look now, nothing is left

of it, especially in

the west side.

It's completely devastated,

and there are no

services here as well.

He has lost eight members

of his family here but

still hasn't been able to find

and bury their bodies.

This is the first time

he returns to what's left of

the home he just

bought five years ago.

TRANSLATION:

IS came to my family's

neighbourhood and asked

them to leave and replaced them

with their own families.

The first one who died

was my brother-in-law,

while he was trying to bring

water from the river.

Then my sister-in-law,

who just got a little sick.

At that time, IS were

moving people from

house to house, so they

didn't want to have

someone ill with them,

so

they killed her and threw her

body into the river.

For the security forces now

in charge of the city,

the biggest challenge is to build up

trust with Mosul's residents.

People who survived

the air strikes are

marked as possible IS sympathisers.

For some, it's impossible to return

to their homes without an

authorisation signed

by the new rulers.

TRANSLATION:

This is a dilemma.

These people should go

through security checks to make sure

that they were not with IS.

There are not very

well-known IS members who

we can only find through the people

here, as local people know their

faces, so we need first to identify

them before we are able to let these

people go back to their houses.

The task to rebuild

Mosul and clear the

city of its rubble will take years.

Driving IS fighters out

of the narrow alleys

of the old city took many months.

These same streets and buildings

with plenty of remaining

death traps are proving to be

the most difficult to clear.

In some parts of Mosul,

the smell of death

is pungent, even after months

since the battle for the city ended.

The bodies of many

residents are still

trapped under the rubble,

and there are people still looking

to find out what happened

to their lost loved

ones.

We witnessed the operation

to recover the bodies of this man's

three nephews.

The eldest was only 12 years old.

TRANSLATION:

These

are my sister's children.

They were in another

neighbourhood, but IS

brought them here by force.

Two days before we were

bombed, I managed to

talk to them.

My nephew was telling me, Uncle,

I just pray that our area

be liberated so that

I can come to you,

and so we can play PlayStation.

Despite all these difficulties,

efforts to rebuild Mosul have

started, and the new authorities

are trying to clear all visible

destruction.

But the deeper underlying

scars and wounds will

take much longer to heal.

Nafiseh Kohnavard there.

That's it for tonight.

Before we go, you may have heard

that singer Lana del Rey

is being threatened with legal

action by Radiohead for the full

rights to her song, Get Free,

which they say sounds

like their 1992 anthem, Creep.

But Radiohead's people are now

making more friendly noises,

while del Rey's fans took to social

media to remind us that Creep

was itself a rip-off

of The Hollies from 1974,

for which Radiohead

were themselves successfully sued.

We're looking forward

to fresh copyright claims

from the 1950s tomorrow.

Until then, you decide who takes

home the pot of gold.

Goodnight.

LANA DEL REY: # Take

the dead out of the sea.

# And the darkness from the arts.

# This is my commitment.

# My modern manifesto.

RADIOHEAD: # I wanna perfect body.

# I wanna perfect soul.

THE HOLLIES: # Peace came upon me.

# And it leaves me weak.

RADIOHEAD: # She's running out.

# She's run, run, run, ruuuuuun.

THE HOLLIES: # All I need

is the air that I breathe.

# Yes to love you.