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What a special night. We are talking about immigration. Louis Walsh is on

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the show. But here's what is taking this show off the roof tonight,

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Ladies and gentlemen, let's get ready to rock this studio!

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It's with great pride and pleasure I welcome to this fabulous venue.

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The IBF Super Bantamweight Champion of the World, and on a hugely

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successful and historical occasion last Saturday,

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in Manchester, England, he also became the NEW WBA

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Super Bantamweight Champion of the World!

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Hailing from Tiger's Bay, Belfast, I give you Carl "The Jackal"

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I think we should do it again, ladies and gentlemen, Carl Frampton

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in the studio! World champion. What does it feel

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like? It feels great. It was a huge fight,

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we have had a long rivalry, me and Quigg. I just wanted to beat him, I

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wanted to prove it. Very, very happy.

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It's not that often a crowd in this studio gets on their feet for

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somebody, how studio gets on their feet for

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local support? studio gets on their feet for

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Honestly, it's unbelievable. Even here tonight it was incredible, but

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in Manchester it sounded like here tonight it was incredible, but

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Belfast, it didn't feel like Manchester. And Quigg is from

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Belfast, it didn't feel like miles outside Manchester. I

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genuinely believe I am one of the best supported fighters in world

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boxing. I am very grateful. best supported fighters in world

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of them sound like 20,000. Is it starting to hit you?

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I don't know. He hardly hit you!

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I don't know. It was a bit of a boring fight

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especially the first half. But It was a bit of a boring fight

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I hit him with a solid jab and his eyes lit up. He didn't want to fight

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for six eyes lit up. He didn't want to fight

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The support that there eyes lit up. He didn't want to fight

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was some famous support as well, some sober. Who could we possibly be

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talking about? They said you can't wear a football

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shirt, but I thought I might be on the telly.

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shirt, but I thought I might be on He is doing a lot for Northern

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Ireland, Carl from town. -- car Frampton. -- Carl Frampton.

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We love Jimmy. But he had had a couple, more than a couple. But when

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he sobered up, said -- he sent you a message.

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Greetings from a very hot but very beautiful botanic gardens in

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Singapore. It was the farthest place I could get away to after Saturday

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night. What a performance, and you weren't bad either. I was hoping to

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congratulate you, what I was sort of unable to speak. -- but I was. We

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are incredibly proud of you. On Sunday morning it felt like I had

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been through 12 gruelling rounds also. Northern Ireland's very own

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Carl Frampton, everyone is so proud. I believe Wayne Rooney was in your

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dressing room? He was in Quigg's dressing room.

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He was supporting Quigg and he was a bit absurd.

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He had a bet with Michael Wright, so he lost.

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-- he had a bet with Rory McIlroy. I think we should welcome your

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partner in crime, another local hero, ladies and gentlemen, Barry

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McGuigan! I remember you telling me on the

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radio show quite a long time ago, you knew this guy.

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Yes, I have been telling everybody for years, people told me to shut

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up. But he is an exceptional talent and he proved on Saturday night. It

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was a cagey affair for the first 68 rounds, but we wanted people to buy

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all the pay-per-view, but we knew it was going to be cagey. The idea was,

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the strategic land was Carl would get out in front, get a good, decent

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lead, and make him panic and make him come to you. I was watching the

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show back on Sunday night quite late, and I listened to it and the

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Mike went into their corner and at the end of the seventh round he said

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sky have got us 61 down! -- Sky Sports 4. I thought, these guys are

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idiots. We were way in front. That was the plan, and Carl knew it would

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be a matter of coming to him and tried to pick him off. But he had

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already broken his jaw and that stage. But it was a fantastic

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performance, and we knew it would be a tactical battle, we knew it would

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not be an all out war until the latter stages. And I think because

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of the damage to his chin, he wasn't willing to commit. So Carl could not

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nail him with the right punches, but he dominated him.

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Did you know he had -- you had broken his jaw?

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No, it was the end of possibly the eighth round or the sixth, but not

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as early as the fourth as they were saying.

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These two are a couple of really good fighters.

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Everywhere we go, everywhere we go! Making all that noise, everywhere we

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go. Tell you what, I am glad you can box

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better than you can sing! He's actually got a good voice.

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There's hardly a mark on you. If we put the camera up, the top of

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the left ear. His left eye. There's just a little mark there, if we can

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see that. It's that small, it's really hard to see. And that's it.

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That wasn't even from the fight! I got a cut eye, it was a kid from

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Belfast. Very last spark of the camp, he clipped me and my eyes

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split. I thought initially, fights off. But it healed, but that wasn't

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Quigg. That was actually...

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He was dealt somebody blows though. As Carl said, it wasn't the fourth

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round, it was more like the sixth round when he broke his jaw, but he

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fought six rounds with a damaged jaw. But that was partly the reason

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why he kept his hands up. We knew he was not going to take his hands in

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an exchange with them. He goes blocked and then responds, but he

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was blocking when he was responding. It was carried out to perfection.

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Before the fight I heard you say it would be life changing. Life

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changing for you and your family. How?

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I don't know yet, because the money is not yet in my bank account! It

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just takes about a week or so to come in.

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It takes about a month or so. Look, it is obviously...

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What type of money's involved? We don't know yet, we don't know...

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Is it millions? . Ask questions like that. -- don't

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ask questions like that. But we won't know until the

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pay-per-view comes in in about a month.

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One of them is mine. One of them is mine as well.

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What's next for him, can you bring him, obviously he is on the world

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stage. How about Windsor Park, how about here in Northern Ireland so

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that these people who love you can do it on the home -- on your home

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turf? Would you like that, ladies and gentlemen?

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We would love to do that. We are obligated to make, it is a difficult

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situation because in order for Kyle to fight for the WBA title they had

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to make a mandatory 90 days after that that he would defend against

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the super champion. The that that he would defend against

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also given us 90 days to defend against another fighter, so we are

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in a different -- difficult spot... Anywhere, the fact is we are

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obligated. Anywhere, the fact is we are

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champion we are more inclined to go down that route. But several guys

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are interested in fighting down that route. But several guys

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but we have to sit down, he is not making any decisions until

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but we have to sit down, he is not chance to look at all the possible

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opportunities and There is a certain amount of scandal

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associated with you, because of course the last time you were in the

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associated with you, because of studio we had rehearsed our fight in

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the boxing ring, you witnessed studio we had rehearsed our fight in

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Barry, and it was important you didn't touch a BBC presenter. What

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happened is that didn't touch a BBC presenter. What

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flying around the Internet now, let's remind us where the contact

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happened here if we look at this freaky... -- VAT. -- if we look at

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this clip. LAUGHTER Sorry, it was only a small

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touch. I think you hit me harder than Quigg. What about your family?

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It must be special? Great to see them, and... I saw your luck and by

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getting his first haircut on Twitter. He is a bit of a rascal.

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But he sat on ice and it was good to be home, great to be home with the

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family. -- but he sat down nicely. What is your dream? To keep winning,

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in Madison Square Garden is, in the MGM in Las Vegas. It is incredible,

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I go there once a year, I would love to see you there. I would love to

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get out there, but Windsor Park, above all, I would love to defend my

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world title in front of home fans and repay them for what they have

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done for me and show them I want to be at home, a Belfast boy, let's do

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some fights from here. be at home, a Belfast boy, let's do

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from a little boy aged seven, fighting in North Belfast, there you

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are, where was that? fighting in North Belfast, there you

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ABC in Tigers Bay. There is Joe fighting in North Belfast, there you

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in the corner, who has sadly passed away, but well-known around that

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area. -- Joe Farrell. Well, from that little boy, to someone we are

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so proud of. Thank you. Carl Frampton! CHEERING Right, good

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stuff. Give them a round of applause!

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CHEERING The migrant crisis,

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one of the biggest The UN warned this week about

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a looming humanitarian disaster. Or imposing stricter

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limits on who can come in? What is the answer to this? George

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Galloway is joining us this evening. He should be on the line. Set this

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out for us? That is a tidal wave of refugees arriving in Europe, more

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than 1 million arrived last summer, and far more than 1 million will

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arrive this summer, just in the first six weeks of this year 150,000

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people arrived from the Middle East, and those travelled through the

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worst of weather conditions. So, as the weather improves, more people

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will take to the seas, and walking across Europe, cascading from one

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end to the other end. And this, on top of austerity throughout most of

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Europe, with more of that to come, because Greece seems to be about to

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default on its payments, on its loans it got after the long-running

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crisis. So do you think we should have an open door policy on

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immigrants? No. So what should we do? I hope you did not bring me on

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thinking I did. Every country should have control of its own borders and

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there is no such thing as unlimited immigration, or ought to be, there

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is nothing left wing about mass immigration, mass immigration

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decapitates the countries from which they come and, when they arrive, it

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drives down wages and conditions as unscrupulous lawyers take advantage

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of new Labour. What should we do? Stop fuelling the wars that said

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these people off in the first place. And I'm sorry if I sound like a

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broken record... And we are where we are now. What should we do with the

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present problem? Not to go back in time but agree with me that we need

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to stop what we are doing right now, such as in Syria, our government and

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others, the usual suspects I'm afraid, are continuing to fuel the

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so-called rebellion in Syria, which has set the place on fire, saying

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the destruction, not least amongst Christian communities, and holy

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places. That might of course stop the father in flux, but there are

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people right now, we can see them on television. -- further influx. We

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have to show them out fairly, you cannot have Greece, such as nearby

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Macedonian government trapping hundreds of thousands of people in

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Greece, which will cause chaos. We will come back to you in a second.

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David McNarry, we have to share the load, help people as much as they

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can, against that? I am not, the United Kingdom government is doing

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the right thing, if only people would listen, I welcome the 100 or

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families that came from the Syrian camps to Northern Ireland and they

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are being looked after, and I am aware of that, and I know more are

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coming in, but the answer is why are people going on these horrendous

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journeys, putting their lives and their children's lies at this, when

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they are not going anywhere better? Some people may say it is better

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than bombs, of course it is, but there are camps set up to facilitate

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them close to their own homes from whence they should be returning

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properly. Widening this out beyond Syria, what is wrong with an

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economic migrant? Let me just tell you. This is my British passport.

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What it says at the top... It so happens you brought it with you!

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LAUGHTER Purposely, it says European Union at the top. Angela Merkel as

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offered and brought in 1 million people, right? In not too long time,

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they will get the same passport, the same rights, benefits. But people

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have travelled to find work for centuries. We will find the

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countries that put up the barbed wire, the people going with Angela

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Merkel... Didn't your ancestors emigrated here from Scotland? No.

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You are Irish? Yes. And resist the right for others to come here for a

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better life? I understand it is highly emotional. You would not have

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a hard if you did not feel for some of those scenes we see on television

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but we don't have room, and not have an economy that can uphold this, 1

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million people leaving other countries, turned into European

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citizens, meaning the same rate this passport, and I do not believe they

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should using that. This lady? What about what America, Australia,

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Canada has done, if you do not come in with enough money, they will not

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give you social security. Our problem is people come to this

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country are coming for a better life, to get money out of our

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government, that we have to pay in. They

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government, that we have to pay in. all of them! Some people came to me

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when I worked in the boot, and asking about

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when I worked in the boot, and given it. Quite a sweeping

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statement! It isn't. A lot are claiming for children not here in

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this country. They are claiming for everything. I don't agree, to be

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honest, some of what you have said is very sad. We have a lot of people

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who will think some of the migrants with the same brush. You made a good

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point we with the same brush. You made a good

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around immigration, and separate and economic migrant and refugee. These

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people are fleeing death, if there were bombs that were dropping and

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leaving us destitute, in every were bombs that were dropping and

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of their country... There are facilities close to their land, that

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they want to go back to. I am father and grandfather and I would not take

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my wife and children on and grandfather and I would not take

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miles of track... It you had no other choice. But they have the

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choice of camps. But you have never had your life on

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the line to that But you have never had your life on

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know what it is like? The IRA put But you have never had your life on

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life on the line of occasions. But you have never had your life on

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many people left Northern Ireland for the United States and Australia

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and were accepted. On the condition they will make a contribution.

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The man in the glasses? they will make a contribution.

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consider these people are coming to they will make a contribution.

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the UK because of UK foreign policy has driven their country into the

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situation where they have no has driven their country into the

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but to move from their home. has driven their country into the

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problem with this has driven their country into the

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but did not bring it on. I brought it on to make

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but did not bring it on. I brought here at you at length! Thank

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but did not bring it on. I brought you doing his job now? Most people

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preface remarks with, I am not a racist, or I am the daughter or

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granddaughter of immigrants, either occupying the moral high ground. I

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am the occupying the moral high ground. I

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were fleeing persecution in Russia, I am also not a racist, but, always

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this but, we have to unpack the arguments and move away from the

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this but, we have to unpack the emotional, where is your heart, here

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is my passport, and save... But it is about sovereignty. And he talks

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about his Britishness threatened. And I respect his opinion. I also

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agree that while we are genes to And I respect his opinion. I also

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Human Rights Act, part of the EU, and I support leaving the EU, we

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will have uncontrolled Labour moving in and around Europe, and there is a

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massive difference between an asylum seeker who needs surgery from war

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and someone who just thinks Britain is a soft option. -- sanctuary from

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what stop George Galloway, I would you respond to David McNarry? I am

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glad I could not see that, probably not a pretty sight. America would be

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the Buddhas country in the world and Bangladesh the richest because

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everyone emigrates to union the United States, and nobody emigrates

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to Bangladesh. Immigrants generate economic activity and more wealth

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for all of us. Do you agree with that, David McNarry? George, let

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David respond. Your point is? I will go on to make it, ?5 billion surplus

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was contributed to the British economy I immigrants last year,

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compounded each year there is a surplus of a great deal of money.

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There may be the odd person turning up at the blue asking for ?3000 for

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a car, though I am sure they were given short shrift from the

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warm-hearted person that spoke, a former civil servant. -- brew. She

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wants to despond. They got handed it, they were not given short

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shrift, ?2000 for a car to get to work. Well, I demand an enquiry,

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because for nearly 30 years as an MP, I never had of anyone getting

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?3000 for a car, let alone someone who arrived as a refugee or economic

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migrant. Go ahead. I coach load of refugees were brought into my area

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and put up in a Hotel, all women and kids, we have nothing against them,

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but we were not told about it, they were sneaked in, I live in a nice

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area and if we were told refugees were coming with women and kids we

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would have welcomed them, but the children to the community centres.

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Why should you be told? Why do they need your permission? Because people

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have the wrong issues about them, going against them because

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politicians from other areas were treating these people, coming into

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our area, we would like to know ourselves. But this is what is

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wrong, people saying things like our area! But we have to live the, and

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they could break into our houses. -- we have to live there. I do not

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believe anyone is bad, I did tell people, it is women and kids, look

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what they have went through, welcome them with open arms. Maybe they

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could have made our kids. But that would have been the nice thing but

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no one was talking were coming in. This lady is entitled to feel some

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ownership of her area. The fact is, why don't we...

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I would love to do things like that. How much money, let's be practical,

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how much money has it cost to get all these people over to these

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different areas? What are we spending our foreign aid on, to fund

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I's space programme? Why aren't we spending it on enabling people to

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stay in their indigenous -- indigenous areas and have a better

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life? People want to be where they are more culturally at home, why not

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help them? The UK is the second biggest donor

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to foreign aid. They want to help people in their own country first.

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Like you said, it hasn't worked. So we will try to help settle them

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around their country. But it is not always working. We have a moral

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obligation to help bring them here, because we do have room. We have a

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moral and an international legal operation to help people who are

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fleeing from their lands. Young lady up here.

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What if these people just demand even more of our services such as

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NHS and our education systems? We are already struggling. The majority

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of them are coming to work. Including in the NHS, by the way.

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Many experts say the NHS could not function if we did not have people

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from other places in the world coming to work here. We have to look

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after our own before we take in even more people. Go ahead. Do you not

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think you should put refugees on the back burner with all the

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homelessness in the United Kingdom? Look after people on our own

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streets? The North of Ireland is famously a Christian part of the

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world, but I'm not hearing much Christian charity from your studio

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discussion tonight. Of course we are a Christian country. Well,

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discussion tonight. Of course we are hear some... Do you

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discussion tonight. Of course we are everybody or is it just me? At the

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moment is that -- it is just you, George. Well, kindly let me speak.

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These people, and it is really important to unbundle the economic

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migrant from the refugee. The economic migrant,

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migrant from the refugee. The right to control their numbers. One

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of the reasons why I right to control their numbers. One

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the EU. But the refugee, the wretched, the

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the EU. But the refugee, the to be free from hell on earth,

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the EU. But the refugee, the really have to find some Christian

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the EU. But the refugee, the are fleeing not just bombs, they are

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fleeing Isis and Al-Qaeda, who are fleeing not just bombs, they are

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cut your head off. Now frankly, so, you would take your wife

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cut your head off. Now frankly, so, would take them away if Isis with

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their sharp would take them away if Isis with

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people's hearts... There is not much difference between them and the IRA

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and I never took by family anywhere, I stood my ground and I stood with

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my own people. We are a Christian nation and that comes through all

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the time, George. That is not coming across from what you are saying.

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However bad the Troubles were in the North of Ireland... But

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However bad the Troubles were in the completely untrue. It is completely

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untrue. But however bad the situation was, in the north of

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Ireland, people were not getting their heads cut off, the heights

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eaten, crucified... -- hearts. They were getting bombed to pieces.

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eaten, crucified... -- hearts. They going to pay you a compliment of

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imagining you don't know what you are talking about. If you did know,

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what kind of hell it is in Iraq and Syria, thanks to us and George Bush,

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you would not have the hard faced hard hearted attitude all the while.

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You are a hypocrite. Clutching your Bible, whilst slamming the door on

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people who are fleeing from the most horrific hell on earth.

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people who are fleeing from the most David respond. Do not accept, David,

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but the extent of the devastation in Syria -- do not accept, but the

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extent of the devastation and bloodshed is far beyond what

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happened here? No, what I have got to say is in response to questions I

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have -- I was asking of the police quite recently, Isis threat in the

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city of Belfast has gone from moderate to serious in a matter of

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weeks. This is our capital city, and the police themselves have upgraded

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the threat from Isis. That is concerning. Go ahead, sir, with your

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hand up. Do not think this is something Stormont should have been

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dealing with long before it got out of hand? Rather than the usual

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political point scoring. The UN's International Labour Organisation

:35:47.:35:49.

has stated that the migrants have a positive economic contribution in

:35:50.:35:55.

terms of paying more taxes and social contribution than they

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actually take out of the economy. What do you think about this, you

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had to seek asylum in 1979. 1975. We were sent to the UK, Manchester, to

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study, and then in 1980 when the revolution happened in Iran, there

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was persecution obviously and then in 1981 my parents came to visit us,

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and my father could never go back. And because of that, he sought

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asylum, and all the children, my siblings, we got asylum and we

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remain in the UK. So how do you feel about what you have heard tonight?

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It is just a matter of looking at the situation, it is a matter of

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chance where you are born, whether you are born in Northern Ireland or

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Kuwait or Iran. It is privileged that you are born in a country that

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you can leave and be free. I was not free in Iran. David, if you believe

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the EU is far too lax on immigration, that we need to leave

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it to control our on-board is, therefore it follows that you must

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want border controls and checkpoints back on the Irish border. -- control

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at own borders. The Republic of Ireland is not in Schengen, and

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neither is the United Kingdom, thank goodness. The relationship we have

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in terms of trading with the Republic of Ireland is one that will

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continue. I cannot see any great difference with the United Kingdom

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out of Europe. But if we want to control our borders against

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immigration from Europe, you have to control but border between here and

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the South. I want to control our borders right this moment, between

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this little part of the United Kingdom and the Irish Republic,

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because it is a porous border, and because... So you would put border

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controls back on the border here? Yes, because right this moment...

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Illegal immigrant sigh crossing the border. Would you put checkpoints

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back? Are you trying to scare us? Isis terrorists are coming from

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Dublin to Belfast? Yes? How do we know? Go and ask the Chief

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Constable. Isis terrorists are coming from Dublin to Belfast. There

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was a statement three weeks ago which said the police are more

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concerned about young jihadist militant Islamic people than they

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are about dissident IRA. So Ukip once border controls and checkpoints

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on the border. No, we won't border controls, we want -- we need border

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controls... And checkpoints as well? The checkpoints on going to be able

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to be done, how on earth do you do that, the IRA crossed every day and

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every night. The British Government's foreign policy is

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making it worse. We can afford to bomb countries that aren't our

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business, but we can't afford to fund the welfare system or invest in

:39:49.:39:53.

people who need our help. Part of the problem I think also with this

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debate is that first of all we haven't really looked at the issue

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of radicalised Islam, which is sprouting on our campuses and in

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different areas of our communities, and that has propagated this idea

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that immigration is a bad thing. Everything's and thrown into one

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pot. But this issue that George gave us, a very vivid description of the

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kind of things that people are suffering terrible hell in Syria.

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When you run, I would have thought you run to the first safe place you

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get to. Just spill back to the rise of the Nazis in the Second World

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War. People left Germany and fled for example to Holland, as Anne

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Frank's family famously did. Her father thought the family would be

:40:43.:40:47.

safe there, he couldn't see how far the Nazi tentacles would stretch. He

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didn't think, we will press on to Britain. As a family, when you run,

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and thank God I have never been in that position but my family have,

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generations before, you stop when you come to the place you feel safe.

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And this is part of the issue now. Either you run to get to safety, or

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you run because you want to get to Britain. The two are not mutually

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exclusive. The debt she added to the Newsletter. -- deputy editor. I used

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to be quite tough on immigration. England is one of the most densely

:41:22.:41:29.

populated countries in the world. Look at the catastrophic rise in

:41:30.:41:33.

house prices in London that kind of things. But I travelled down via

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Belgrade, and saw the beginning of this human chain, and Lesbos, they

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spoke English, almost all of them, and aside from the human tragedy of

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these and aside from the human tragedy of

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wondering around, I thought we could benefit from the resourcefulness. So

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that maybe we should actually a Northern Ireland, take some more.

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However, there comes a point, very clearly, when you have to say, no.

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Look what happened when Angela Merkel sent out the signal and many

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more people came. When is the point to say no? I don't know, but I think

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this is just the beginning. Because of the exploding world population, I

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don't think it is just about Syria. I am from Dungannon, and we have

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loads of industries dependent on migrant workers, similar because we

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are not willing to do the job ourselves. And the man in the

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glasses. Do think that our jobs and our school places for example would

:42:50.:42:53.

be put under even more stress, especially with part-time jobs, as a

:42:54.:42:57.

student myself surely that is relevant. We have so many empty

:42:58.:43:03.

school desks in Northern Ireland so I don't think we will run out of

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schools. I think whenever we use this issue of taking our jobs, we

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have to look at why there is no investment in the neighbourhoods.

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have to look at why there is no That is part down to Stormont and

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have to look at why there is no part down to the UK Government. It

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is not about putting local against migrant. Final word George Galloway.

:43:20.:43:27.

The vast majority of refugees that arrived in Europe last summer came

:43:28.:43:33.

from Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria. You don't have to be Einstein to

:43:34.:43:39.

work out what these three countries have in common. So a bit of

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Christian charity. We have in common. So a bit of

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create this disastrous problem, have in common. So a bit of

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people in both Syria and Iraq, in fact more than 1 million people, and

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so to hear people, you know, as we come up to Easter time, to

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so to hear people, you know, as we people slamming stable doors and

:44:03.:44:07.

saying, six refugees per constituency is more than enough, it

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is frankly and unedifying spectacle. George, thank you. Give our guests a

:44:17.:44:23.

I very important debate which will be happening right up until the

:44:24.:44:29.

referendum on June 23. Right, let's lighten the mood now,

:44:30.:44:32.

and our next guest is a man who is never short of something

:44:33.:44:35.

to say and knows all The former X Factor judge

:44:36.:44:39.

is the best-known pop boss MUSIC: Sound Of The Underground

:44:40.:44:51.

by Girls Aloud Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

:44:52.:45:21.

Louis Walsh! CHEERING How are you? Good to see you! It is always good

:45:22.:45:31.

for you to pop in to see us. It is. And the showbiz gossip, cut to the

:45:32.:45:35.

chase, will you go back into X Factor? Honestly, I don't know.

:45:36.:45:41.

Nothing is signed. Do you want to go back in? I would like to. Have you

:45:42.:45:51.

been approached? Simon would like the back.

:45:52.:45:54.

So if the man in charge once you back, and you want to go back, what

:45:55.:46:01.

is stopping it? Lots of politics at ITV and Fremantle, and I would want

:46:02.:46:04.

to go back if it is the same as the old days, fun. Do you dig ITV would

:46:05.:46:10.

like you back? The ratings were down. Why? There was no fun to it. I

:46:11.:46:21.

would love Sharon Osbourne back, I would love Nicol, like it was all

:46:22.:46:27.

those years ago. Do you think the show has lost some of its audience

:46:28.:46:32.

because you were not there? Not because of me, but it has definitely

:46:33.:46:37.

lost some audience. RB at the stage of talking money? No, but I don't do

:46:38.:46:45.

it for the money, I love working with Simon, we are best friends. We

:46:46.:46:51.

are really good friends. But wasn't it Simon who don't you? Indirectly,

:46:52.:46:58.

yes, trying to improve the shore. But you say you are best friends the

:46:59.:47:02.

Simon Cowell, but by which he dumped you? I was there for 11 years, a

:47:03.:47:08.

long time. I thought I was going to miss it, but I would watch TV on

:47:09.:47:21.

Saturday. But I did not miss it. Was it Simon that told you? He said,

:47:22.:47:28.

darling, we are making changes. And that did not change things? No, we

:47:29.:47:36.

managed Westlife together. I was offered a lot more to go back. But I

:47:37.:47:44.

did not want to do it. Tell him I will do it for 50 grand! Do you know

:47:45.:47:50.

who talk the height of not doing it, Simon, he called me and said, do not

:47:51.:47:55.

do it, darling, he calls everyone darling. What will you offer to go

:47:56.:48:02.

into the jungle? Big rowing figures. You said you would tell me. Probably

:48:03.:48:10.

around 1 million. You turn down a million quid? You would eat a

:48:11.:48:17.

cockroach for ?1 million? I tell it like it is. I am a bit of a loose

:48:18.:48:22.

cannon. I say things I shouldn't. That is what would have happened on

:48:23.:48:26.

the shore. But Simon said not to do it. Maybe he will have me back. So

:48:27.:48:32.

people will need to be dumped if you are going back. Were they right to

:48:33.:48:39.

get rid of neck grip shop -- Nick Grimshaw? Yes, she wasn't right.

:48:40.:48:50.

What about Dermot O'Leary? I have a feeling he will come back. As Simon

:48:51.:48:57.

spoken to you about him coming back? I have heard good rumours and I have

:48:58.:49:01.

a good source. What about this lady here?

:49:02.:49:08.

It is Cheryl. You give her this silly song! It was a throwaway

:49:09.:49:14.

performance. She is so much better than this. This could be your last

:49:15.:49:24.

week and it is her fault it! What is it like in real life between

:49:25.:49:32.

you two? Do you like her? Yes, I like her, I don't love her, but I

:49:33.:49:40.

prefer Sharon Osbourne and Nicole. And I think Liam is really talented.

:49:41.:49:45.

He is the one person in the band that will make a great career. There

:49:46.:49:52.

have been rumours, but do you know for a fight? I have only heard

:49:53.:49:59.

rumours. I think Liam will be good for her, he is really musical comedy

:50:00.:50:05.

Gary Barlow of that band. I know you say you are good friends but Simon

:50:06.:50:13.

Cowell. I am. Do you think you will wobble over the ratings? I think

:50:14.:50:18.

that is why he will make changes. He needs to bring it back to what it

:50:19.:50:23.

used to be. But is he warbling, losing confidence if he is not

:50:24.:50:28.

always successful? The always wants to be top dog. She is in America at

:50:29.:50:34.

the moment, doing talent shows on both sides of the Atlantic. May be X

:50:35.:50:44.

Factor should be rested? No. And who cares about The Voice? It has not

:50:45.:50:51.

been successful in the UK. Do you think ITV can have The Voice and X

:50:52.:51:00.

Factor on the same schedule? I think The Voice will follow on from X

:51:01.:51:06.

Factor. The Voice has never had a star, tell me one who has had a head

:51:07.:51:14.

from that anywhere? Tell me! For goodness sake! X Factor as that hat

:51:15.:51:20.

every year. Then eight months later, Simon drops them. -- X Factor has

:51:21.:51:28.

had hits every year. You have had lots of people who have had careers

:51:29.:51:34.

because of the X Factor. Let's talk about you personally. I read you

:51:35.:51:37.

have been losing your hearing, right? I thought I was, because on

:51:38.:51:44.

the auditions two years ago, I could not hear everything. It was because

:51:45.:51:48.

of the live audience. Which I think they should bring back. You need the

:51:49.:51:54.

live audience, you want to get more out of the contestants. My hearing

:51:55.:52:01.

is lucky, and I did and it -- I did an advertisement about hearing aids.

:52:02.:52:11.

Does anyone have a question? Come on! No questions for Louis Walsh?

:52:12.:52:21.

Isn't that really... You ask me a question. What about Boyzlife? There

:52:22.:52:39.

was a rumour about that, but it will never, ever happen! Why? The boys

:52:40.:52:49.

don't want it, and I don't want it. Westlife don't need anybody.

:52:50.:52:54.

don't want it, and I don't want it. and Ronan Keating get on?

:52:55.:52:59.

don't want it, and I don't want it. really. Why? We have moved on to

:53:00.:53:04.

different things. But no, I don't really like him. LAUGHTER

:53:05.:53:13.

different things. But no, I don't at one stage. Yes, I got him off the

:53:14.:53:15.

hits. What happened? We don't agree at one stage. Yes, I got him off the

:53:16.:53:22.

with each other. And my earpiece has gone! Did he not appreciate the work

:53:23.:53:28.

you did for him? A lot of people are ungrateful

:53:29.:53:29.

you saw him in a restaurant which you speak to him? Of course, I would

:53:30.:53:41.

give them the bill! LAUGHTER But life is good. I love the band you

:53:42.:53:46.

have on tonight. They have a good future. They are absolutely class.

:53:47.:53:56.

And now plans to retire? I did a show for ITV called Drive recently.

:53:57.:54:02.

And I am useless. This is the new Top Gear for ITV. And Top Gear and

:54:03.:54:08.

Chris Evans will blow you out of the water!

:54:09.:54:14.

Chris Evans will blow you out of the driving show and you can't drive and

:54:15.:54:18.

you are in it? But the other people are much better. I make do I shall

:54:19.:54:31.

for RTE, an Irish talent show. Why are you laughing? Because you are

:54:32.:54:35.

everywhere. I cannot believe the man who turned down ?1 million for the

:54:36.:54:41.

jungle. It is always good to have you here. Thank you. Dave Louis

:54:42.:54:44.

Walsh around of applause. Well, that's it for another

:54:45.:54:51.

action-packed Nolan Live. Remember, you can continue

:54:52.:54:53.

the conversation with me after the show on Facebook

:54:54.:54:55.

live and on Twitter. We will end the shore with some

:54:56.:55:05.

fantastic live music. Have a look at this. -- the show.

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