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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Seven months after the UK voted to leave Europe,

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the Prime Minister has laid out her plans for Britain's

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Not seek to adopt a model already enjoyed by other countries. We do

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not seek to hold onto bits of membership as we leave. No. The

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United Kingdom is leaving the European Union. We will look in

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detail at what Theresa May said and have reaction from across politics

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and Strasbourg and Brussels as well. Simon Jacks is in Davos where the

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Chinese leader has made a heartfelt case for globalisation. Our Middle

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East editor is in Aleppo and we will play you the latest report from

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Jeremy Bowen on the destruction he has seen there. Vladimir Putin has

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made his first comments on unverified allegations that Russia

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has compromising information on Donald Trump.

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The UK is going to leave the EU's single market.

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And you can argue that had become politically inevitable.

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Many people supported Brexit because of concerns about immigration.

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Theresa May was never likely to ignore that.

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And the EU's most senior figures have consistently said

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no membership of the single market without freedom of movement.

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They were never likely to compromise.

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For all the talk of soft Brexit it was hard to see what that meant in

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practical terms. None the less, this speech

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is a moment a huge significance. Not just for its headline

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announcement - but other policy details too -

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and it tone. We do not seek to adopt a model

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already enjoyed by other countries. We do not seek to hold onto bits of

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membership as we leave. No. The United Kingdom is leaving the

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European Union and my job is to get the right deal for Britain as we do.

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I want to be clear. What I am proposing cannot mean membership of

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the single market. While controlled immigration can bring great

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benefits, filling skills shortages, delivering public services, making

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British businesses the world beaters they often are, when the numbers get

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too high, public support for the system falters. I can confirm today

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that the government will put the final deal that is agreed between

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the UK and the EU to a vote in both Houses of Parliament before it comes

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into force. I know there are some voices calling for a punitive deal

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that punishes Britain and discourages other countries from

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taking the same path. That would be an act of calamitous self harm for

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the countries of Europe and it would not be the act of a friend. Britain

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would not, indeed we could not accept such an approach.

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Let's get some reaction to the speech.

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Nigel Farage, one of the most vocal campaigners for Brexit.

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She has said leave the single market then at the same time says she wants

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to have access to the single market, I'm not quite sure how that's going

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to go down in Europe. I think we have to have a deal that ensures we

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have access to the market, we have British jobs dependent on that

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market, that's what we'll be pushing for. Whether it is specifically this

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form of single market I don't know. She seems to be wanting to have her

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cake and eat it. Leader of the Liberal Democrats -

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who are pro-European: "This is a theft of democracy,

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a presumption that the 51.9% of people who voted to leave meant

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the most extreme version Next here's foreign secretary

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Boris Johnson who supported Brexit. Why should they give us all of those

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things she suggested? As the Prime Minister said, we believe very

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strongly that this is in our mutual interest. We are not leaving Europe,

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we are disentangling ourselves from the treaties of the EU. We can

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remain powerfully committed to Europe with a new European

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partnership of the kind she described, whilst also going forward

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with an identity as global Britain. One person who did not answer

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questions was John Claude, he refused to take questions on that

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speech earlier. I spoke to the BBC correspondent Rob

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Watson for his analysis. Cutting through all that normal talk of soft

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Brexit, hard Brexit, if you really boil this down and you slip away

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some of the rhetoric, the warm rhetoric towards Europe, some of the

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more harsh rhetoric, it comes to this, Theresa May is essentially

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saying what Britain wants is all the bits it likes about Europe, so

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things like free trade, co-operation on Security and law enforcement, and

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it doesn't want the things it doesn't like, such as being part of

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a supranational political entity like the European Union and having

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free movement of people. So of course the question it really

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raises, the really obvious one is, what are the other EU 27 really

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going to make of this? Are they going to meet Britain halfway, some

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part along the way? And also, crucially, what on earth are the

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banks and international businesses based in Britain that make it the

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fifth richest country in the world, what are they going to make of this

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departure from the single market? Can you explain whether customs

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union fits into this? Now we know we are out of the single market,

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suddenly there's a lot of attention on that? Yes, to put it as simply as

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possible, if as those who are leading the league campaign say,

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that Britain is going to have this new local future, trading all over

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the world, striking new deals in Asia and elsewhere, then it would

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need a new arrangement with the European Union because currently if

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you are part of the EU customs union, all of those 28, current 28

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countries, they all have the same tariffs with the rest of the world

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and deals tween the EU members of the EU and other countries like

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India, for example, or the United States, or Canada, that is

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negotiated as an EU level. So what Theresa May is saying is that

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Britain, and again, this is part of her overall rhetoric, is that

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Britain would need something, guess what, uniquely British. Not in the

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single market, not in the customs union, but maybe something that sort

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of looks a bit like it. Some reaction from people inside the

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European Union. Article 50 has to pitch triggered by

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the UK before formal negotiations can begin.

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Damian Grammaticas is in Strasbourg where the European Parliament

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Here's more on the reaction inside the EU.

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The view here looking at this speed is that the first of all this has

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given a little bit more clarity, at not very much, from the EU side.

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What they say is that they understand that this is primarily a

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political speech that Theresa May has had to give to a UK audience to

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try to rally people behind the British government's view, plan, if

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you like, for Brexit. But here, interestingly, the reaction coming

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from the parliament chief negotiator who would be involved in some of the

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negotiations, he is said that Theresa May was selling an illusion

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that the UK could somehow leave the single market, leave the customs

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union and still be able to enjoy all the benefits. So, privileged access

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to trade, ability for British companies to have access to the

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single market barrier free. He said that would of course have to change

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because you wouldn't get such a good deal outside. Another senior MEP

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saying that Theresa May had oversold the benefits of what could be

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achieved in trade deals with distant countries, and she was also

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overselling the difficulties there would be in achieving a deal with

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the EU of this sort. I wonder what comments of the Prime Minister when

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she said we cannot have a punitive deal here is a disincentive to

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others countries to leave, has that gone down well? In a short word, no.

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Many people here that we've been speaking to have been saying they

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felt that the British Prime Minister came across, one said to me as

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arrogant, another said that this came across as quite hostile and

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wasn't the way to approach negotiations with 27 other

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countries. I think there was a general sort of agreement that this

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was perhaps' before the negotiation. One senior MEP said we understand

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she has to make these statements but we don't believe them, we don't

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think they are credible. The view here among the EU 27 is that if the

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UK were to walk away from negotiations and accept no deal it

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would be the UK that would be left far worse off. Interestingly as a

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sort of end points to that, all from what I understand, the man

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conducting negotiations for the EU whenever they begin, he has said in

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a private briefing here today to MEPs, he is not seeking to punish

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the UK. This, primarily, is an idea that is circulating in the UK

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amongst UK commentators and viewers of the process that the EU might

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seek to punish the UK. The chief negotiator two days telling MEPs he

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will not seeking to punish the UK but he will be very clear eyed and

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pragmatic. One more piece of news out

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of the European Union this evening. This man - Antonio Tajani -

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has been elected head He's Italian and is part

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of the centre-right Donald Tusk and Jean-Claude Juncker

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belong to the same group, which means they have the three

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biggest jobs in the EU. The European Parliament can

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block or amend EU laws, and will have the final say

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on whether to approve We'll have more on Theresa May's

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speech in OS business shortly. Plus I'll show you this report

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about a town in Ohio where Chinese investment seems

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to be creating jobs. The inquests into the deaths of 30

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British tourists at a Tunisian beach resort 18 months

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ago continued today. The court heard from a senior

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Foreign Office official, who defended advice given

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to travellers at the time. Our correspondent Richard

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Galpin has the latest. What we've heard today is that the

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Foreign Office decided not to increase its travel advisory, ie

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take it to the highest level, which would be advising British nationals

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against all travel to Tunisia, despite their having been the

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horrific attack in Tunisia in the capital in March 2015, in which 22

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mostly foreign tourists were killed. This came just three months before

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the attack which is the subject of this inquest. So there has been a

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lot of focus on that and whether the Foreign Office should indeed have

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changed its advice or not. This is Outside live

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from the BBC newsroom. The British prime minister,

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Theresa May, has ruled out membership of the EU single market

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when Britain leaves She said staying in would mean

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accepting the EU's rules without having any say

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in making them. An air strike by the Nigerian

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military has accidentally killed at least 50 civilians at a camp

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for displaced people Aid workers are among

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the casualties. The pilot apparently

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thought he was attacking The first ever video footage showing

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snow leopards and common leopards sharing the same habitat will be

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discussed at an international There are concerns that common

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leopards are moving to higher ground And you won't be surprised to hear

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that these pictures are very popular The huge alligator was caught

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on camera in Florida by local They were taken at a

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local nature reserve. The alligator has been

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nicknamed 'humpback'. The search for the missing Malaysian

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plane MH370 has been suspended. The plane was flying

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from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing This area outlined in red

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is the area teams have been trying to search -

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now they've stopped. They say there is no new information

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about where the wreckage might be. This is the Facebook

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page of Voices370 - it's an association for some

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of the families. They say that the search

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ought to expand. "an inescapable duty owed

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to the flying public". TRANSLATION: There has to be

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evidence, you need to show us bodies, even if the passengers all

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died. I really want the plane to be found. I want to know what happened

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to my mother, I want to know where she is. This decision has been a

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betrayal of the commitment they made to the families. They have reneged

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on a commitment they made to the public to pursue the answer is

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necessary to feel safe one more time when they are flying. The search has

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been going on for a long time and they haven't come up with nothing.

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It can't go on forever. I think everyone has really done a great job

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looking for the plane. The amount of money that must have been spent for

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the search must have been phenomenal. I respect the government

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and the Malaysians government, they did a lot of work.

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Let's look at the reaction to the speech by Theresa May in the

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business world. As you'd imagine, this was a major

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topic of discussion at Our business editor Simon Jack

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explained the reaction there. For months now businesses have been

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crying out for some clarity to help them plan what happens in the future

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and they got some today. No ifs, no buts, the UK is leaving the single

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market, clear enough. Talking to leaders here this is an assumption

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they'd come to all by themselves, they thought it was inevitable we

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would have to leave the single market because it would be

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incompatible with attempts to control migration from Europe into

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the UK. They feel like the confirmation was helpful but didn't

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really advanced their sum of knowledge. What really got ears

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twitching was the tone in the UK Prime Minister took. She said

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listen, don't mess with us, we are quite prepared to walk away if we

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don't get the deal we like. We may even retaliate by lowering taxes. To

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be clear, what walking away means, it means walking away from a trade

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deal and going towards World Trade Organisation rules, international

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rules, not preferential ones like the UK has for the EU at the moment.

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Many businesses, like the car industry and the agriculture

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industry, are worried the tariffs that would impose would be damaging

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to trade. A lot of people say this is a negotiating position and

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everybody hopes the nuclear option will not be triggered. Did we get

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clarity? We got some. Does everybody think leaving the single market is a

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good idea? Not everyone. Are we any closer to knowing what a final deal

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will look like after negotiation with 27 partners? I'm afraid not.

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The majority of big business is hoped that we would remain in the

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European Union. That has not happened. So what is the big

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business dream scenario intends of how this is organised? You are

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right, a lot of big businesses said this was not ideal but some are

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saying this is a political reality and it's time to roll up sleeves and

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get on with it. I hope we can get a favourable deal, it is in mutual

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interest to trade as freely as possible. In some industries we have

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a big surplus with the EU, in some we have a big deficit, is there

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likely to be a trade-off? Winners and losers between different

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industries? Yes. But I think those businesses are taking a pragmatic

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view saying, this is going to happen, we better get on with it.

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I'd like to mention what happened to the pound today. What the Prime

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Minister did is say, when we thrash out a deal we will give the UK

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Parliament a vote on whether to accept the deal. Traders in the

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pound thought that meant there is some last-ditch scenario in which

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the UK does not leave the EU, because whenever there has been an

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impediment thrown into the exit the pound has gone up. Other people

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saying this is just another example of market very badly misreading the

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political realities that are in front of them. Thank you Simon.

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Staying at Davos, Something quite remarkable happened today.

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Not only did the Chinese head of state attend but he made

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Certainly this is a strange state of affairs.

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Here's some of what President Xi Jinping said.

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TRANSLATION: The Chinese tend to say honey melons hang from bitter vines.

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Sweet dates grow on thistles and thorns. In a philosophical sense,

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nothing is perfect in the world. It's true that economic

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globalisation has created new problems. But this is no

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justification to write of globalisation altogether. Rather we

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should guide and adapt globalisation, cushion its negative

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impact and deliver its benefits to all nations. China's leader sounding

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very poetic. Let's talk to Samira

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Hussain in New York. Have the roles really reversed

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between US and China? Makes a good story but in reality is that what

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has happened? Certainly not the kind of language that you would expect to

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hear from the president of China, especially when compared to the kind

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of rhetoric we heard on the campaign trail from the President-elect

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Donald Trump. And unfortunately for those who believe in globalisation

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and lots of free trade it was not just rhetoric, those are still the

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same ideals that the President-elect has been talking about. And even

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those that are shared by some of the people that are going to make up his

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administration. Perhaps most pointedly is at Davos, one of the

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incoming White House advisers to the president has even said that, look,

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if China engages the United States with some sort of trade war,

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ultimately it's going to be China that loses out and not the United

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States, that the United States is in a much more powerful position. You

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can remember that Donald Trump has said that he wants to get really

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tough with China with regards to the currency manipulation and of course

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to some of the unfair trade practices, and has threatened to

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impose some pretty heavy tariffs against China. To be clear, Donald

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Trump is not arguing against capitalism, he is arguing against

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the current form it is taking on the international stage? What he is

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arguing, really, is unfair trade deals. He says a lot of trade deals

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have been negotiated that don't work in the favour of the American

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people, so the big example is the North American Free Trade Agreement

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which is a free trade agreement that was signed decades ago between

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Canada, the United States and Mexico. After the United States

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signed that agreement there was a big loss of manufacturing jobs here

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in the United States. Part of what the President-elect has really

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campaigned on was saying that he is going to bring back some of those

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coal jobs and those manufacturing jobs. And what he wants to do is to

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open up some of these free trade agreement by the North American Free

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Trade Agreement and renegotiate for something that is better for the

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United States. Thank you. We are very interested to see how this will

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pan out in the next few months. Those comments are aimed in part

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at Donald Trump who has talked extensively about the failures

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of Globalisation and free trade. He's been scathing about how

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they favour China over the US. Here's an interesting angle

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on the economic relationship This is a report from

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Laura Trevelyan who's been to a place called Moraine in Ohio

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to find out about Chinese If Donald Trump's America now. Like

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so many towns across the nation he won here with a pumice to bring back

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jobs. Somewhat surprisingly the factory down the road is run by a

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company with its headquarters in China. It has moved into a plant

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General Motors closed down making windshields where cars once rolled

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off the assembly line. On this Ojai factory floor Donald Trump's

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anti-globalisation campaign rhetoric meets the reality. This Chinese

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managed company is determined to become the biggest manufacturer of

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car windshields in the world. Our goal obviously becoming number one.

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And to be able to achieve our goal, obviously you have to combine all

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the resources, manpower. So I believe we have to have two feet,

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one in China, one in US. They are putting their money where their

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mouth is, investing millions of dollars on the plant. More than 2000

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jobs have been created locally. Scott used to work for General

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Motors and he's still grappling with the cultural differences. Got to

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find some common ground on what our goals are, our goals and our

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standards. A lot of different things you don't necessarily see here that

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you would in an established American company. The American dream has

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taken a hit at the local tavern where there is nostalgia for the GM

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days when business was brisk. Regulars say thanks to the company

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things are picking up. My son is working there, building the catwalks

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and stuff inside the price. Trump supporters around this bar and

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across the nation hope the next president will bring business back

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to their communities. They may be surprised that China has now created

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manufacturing jobs, but a pay cheque is better than none. I'll be back

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with you in a couple of minutes time. If you have any questions,

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particularly about our lead story, you can see how e-mail on the

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screen. Parts of the US planes were affected

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by an ice storm earlier in the week

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