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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.
On Monday he pulled out of a major international trade deal.
On Tuesday he resurrected plans for two controversial oil pipelines.
He is seeking to fundamentally change Homeric operates and fits
into our world. The still happening. I would say I'm certainly planning
on starting immediately. The President's also said
he approves of waterboarding, that he may send federal agents
into cities that can't control crime, that some federal agencies
can't communicate with the press, that he looks set to severely
restrict immigration There are reports in US media that
the president intends to drastically reduce the role of the US at the UN,
and he supports the creation of safe zones for civilians inside Syria.
They would require someone's troops on the ground.
Plus this is how he'll deal with illegal immigration from Mexico.
We are going to get the bad ones out, the criminals and the drug
dealers and the gangs and gang members and cartel leaders.
Across the hour we will cover every development in the US. If you have
questions and, my goodness, I think we all do, the hashtag is #BBCOS,
you can e-mail or find me on social media. We will answer your questions
across the hour. It is a measure of how extraordinary
today is that when the president of America announces a major
investigation into voter fraud, voter fraud for which there is no
evidence whatsoever, it is ranking about nine four tenths in the most
significant developments of the day. Across the hour, Anthony Zurcher
will be live from Washington, DC. We have not seen many days like this?
It is pretty remarkable and the challenge is to try to draw the line
between what Trump is tweeting, saying during interviews and
speeches and the actual executive action is getting documents on so we
can see what is actually taking place as far as policy. That is the
challenge, you will help us meet it. And Thiney is here, if you have
questions, #BBCOS is the hashtag. We will go through the issues one by
one, starting with immigration. Donald Trump always promised
action on immigration. He's signed an executive
order to build a wall There are elements of a wall on that
border already but he wants one that goes the full distance.
And his plan is that Mexico will pick up the cost.
Here's Donald Trump in an interview he's just done with the ABC News.
Are you going to direct US funds to pay for this wall, with American
taxpayers pay for the wall? Ultimately it will come out of what
has happened with Mexico, we will stop those negotiations relatively
soon and be formally reimbursed by Mexico. They will pay us back? 100%.
Is the American taxpayer will pay out first? We will be reimbursed
later from whatever transaction we make with Mexico. Mexico's president
said that Mexico absolutely will not pay, adding that it goes against our
dignity as a country and as Mexicans. But he has to say that. I
am just telling you there will be a payment, it will be in a form,
perhaps a complicated form, you have to understand that what I am doing
is good for the United States, it will also be good for Mexico. We
want a very stable and solid Mexico. Went as construction begin? Sooner
is we physically can. Within months? I would say so, planning on starting
immediately. Hours later he was at the department of homeland security
outlining his plans in more detail to a packed audience.
The secretary of Homeland Security, working with myself and my stuff,
will begin immediate construction of a border wall. -- working with
myself and my staff. APPLAUSE
We are going to get the bad ones out.
The criminals and the drug dealers and gangs and gang members and
cartel leaders. The day is over when they can stay in our country and
recover, we are going to get them out and get them out fast, and John
Kerry is going to lead that. Let's bring in Anthony in
Washington, presumably the idea is that the war itself will get the bad
ones out, it is part of a broader package of policies? -- the idea is
that the wall itself. The God he talks about ending catch and
release, people come over the border and are not formally deported.
Talking about cracking down on sanctuary cities, US municipalities,
more than 200 of them across the country, major cities like Los
Angeles, Seattle, New York City, Washington and Boston turned --
Boston and Washington, DC, they don't ask for immigration status
from people living within their borders. The Trump administration
says they will deny federal funds to cities with these policies unless
they change, that is a marked change from past president. And boosted
immigration funding or customs and enforcement, the hiring of new
immigration officers, across-the-board spending and focus
on rounding people up along the borders and sending them back and
being more diligent about processing people who have already been brought
into the law enforcement and immigration system.
Lots of questions coming in already, one from if you are in the
Netherlands wanting you to answer what is an executive order and how
much power does it have? An executive order is a unilateral use
of presidential power, they are kept track of by numbers, signed by the
president, printed in the Federal register, they have binding power of
law over executive agencies, they are different than laws passed by
Congress which have more broad powers not just over the way
executive agencies behave but all branches of the federal Government,
there are different levels of presidential authority, a
presidential declaration is the highest, and executive order is
next, a memorandum which does not have to be published if slightly
lower, directives are lower. Lots of it is almost non-mature, a way of
organising them and resolving conflicts between them, but
presidents recently, particularly George Dubya Bush and Barack Obama,
have relied heavily on executive action when trying to get policies
implemented that Congress is not willing to turn into permanent law.
Andreu in the UK says don't executive orders have to be
sanctioned by Congress or the Senate or the judiciary? No. Executive
orders are done by the president and don't require any oversight or
sanctioning from other bodies. Don't go anywhere, you will be with his
across the hour. Keep the questions coming, #BBCOS is the hashtag, the
e-mail is [email protected] Then asks what the estimated cost of the war
will be, Mr Trump is putting between $8 billion and $10 billion, he says
that Mexico will pay back in time. Absent surprisingly the Mexican
president is not very clean on that idea. -- perhaps not surprisingly.
"It is evident that we have some differences with the new government
of the United States, like the topic of the wall that
We have a corresponding to Mexico City, I spoke to him earlier. In
fact, he is he alive, I thought I was going to be playing one of your
reports, and here you are, that is great. Tellers about how the Mexican
Government is indicating it will play this challenge?
I think you made the point that the Mexican president and his whole
Cabinet, and a very large portion of this country, are on one single
message to Mr Trump, they will not pay for this wall, not at the time
of construction or in the future. There is a very serious conflict to
be resolved. Obviously Mr Trump has suggested that federal funds United
States will be used initially and they will somehow be reimbursed
later, exactly how was still to be defined, whether there is some sort
of border tax or what he has in mind, we do not know. Wherever you
look, the presidential palace, the factory shop floor, workers on the
streets in Mexico City, on the border region itself, people are
really with one voice, as far as I have seen, they reject this policy
not just as aimed towards them and splitting up families and stopping
people coming across the border, but many people going as far as to call
it a racist and xenophobic. We have a question from Lynette
watching on the BBC News Channel, if Mexico was forced to pay for this,
make it pivot away to Russia and China to seek further economic ties,
or are Mexico and the US too closely intertwined? That is interesting,
everything is happening at once, we also have the Nafta trade agreement,
the North American Free Trade Agreement, Mr Trump said he will
effectively rip that up or at the very least we negotiate. Mexico says
they would be prepared to walk away from the agreement if it was no
longer favourable to Mexico's needs and terms. At the same time the
United States is walking away from the transpacific free-trade
agreement which might open up things for China. The whole trade
relationship between Mexico and the United States is sorted up for grabs
at the moment. That said, it is one of the most long-lasting and solid
relationships in Latin America, and what I was gaining in understanding
from what Mr Trump said was that the United States continues to want to
see a strong Mexican economy and that somehow the wall will benefit
Mexico in those terms. It is still very, very early days but there is a
lot to be negotiated. Thank you very much.
One question said perhaps the Mexicans will refuse, what will
happen then, but what Donald Trump has said and what Will was saying is
that he wants to look at the interrogation ship between Mexico
and the US, including trade and the wall, and any cost of the wall will
be built into the negotiations and warned that the deal might be
complicated. The White House also announced today
that they would cut funding These are American cities,
counties or states that protect undocumented immigrants
from deportation by limiting cooperation with federal
immigration authorities. Seattle, Los Angeles and San
Francisco as well as Chicago, Two days after Mr Trump won
the election, New York's Mayor said, "We are not going to sacrifice
a half-million people who live amongst us,
who are part of our communities. We're not going to tear
families apart." Let's bring Anthony Zurcher back-in,
the president said it was not about tearing apart communities but
dealing with illegal immigration, presumably? Two decidedly different
ways of looking at this issue. Republicans in the past and up
through Donald Trump have seen this as major urban cities, often varied
many of them are left-leaning, thumbing their nose at the federal
Government and subverting their efforts at law-enforcement. This
cities look at it as a way of taking care of people within their borders,
if there are people who do not have normalised immigration status does
not mean that they can't get government services or will not
benefit from education, if they somehow just flat-out denied the
services to people within their borders there all sorts of
compensating factors that could make things even more difficult for the
cities to manage. It is setting up a conflict the Trump administration
and some powerful cities throughout the country, and it is helping to
divide this country again on political terms because, as you may
have noticed, lots of the cities in California, New York, Washington and
Illinois, those states went for Hillary Clinton are not Donald
Trump. Two more questions, they'll is in
Kenny and says Canet President Rousseff and the previous executive
order? -- bill is watching in Kenya and says can a president rescinds a
previous executive order. Yes, one of the first things that Donald
Trump reinstated after Obama rescinded it was to do with
educational groups that might mention abortion. The thing about
executive actions as they are only good as long as a president as it is
in power, somebody else can come in and change them, they do not have
the written power of law. There is a real fascination with this issue,
one more tweets coming in from Will watching on the BBC News Channel in
the UK, if the president can sign as many executive orders as he wants,
does this not create a dictatorship and a threat to US democracy? That
was a criticism, ironically enough, launched by conservatives against
Barack Obama. He used executive orders to defer deportation for
children, undocumented children who had come into the country and stayed
here, and lots of Conservatives said it was a broad overreach of
presidential power. Now you see it on the other side, Donald Trump
using his executive authority to change immigration rules and you
hear an outcry from the left. There seems to be a pretty substantial
ground for justification for the president using this power, it has
been challenged in court and a pelt before, but it is an expansion of
presidential power and many are not happy and would much prefer to see
the sorts of policies going through Congress the way they say this
Government was devised. Anthony Zurcher, live with us from the BBC
newsroom in Washington, DC. He will be with this across the hour, we are
spending the whole hour talking about the Trump administration
because it is moving at huge speed and changing facets of how America
operates within its border but also how America fits into the world.
Your questions are very welcome, we will do our best to answer them.
#BBCOS is the hashtag, my social media contacts and I e-mail address
are on screen. Stay with us, I will be back in a moment.
Theresa May says the Government will publish a white paper
on its plans for leaving the European Union.
Some Conservative members had joined Labour in asking her for a detailed
policy document on Brexit after yesterday's Supreme Court
judgment that the Government had to consult parliament before
Mrs May surprised MPs when she made the announcement
at Prime Minister's Questions this afternoon.
We will ensure that Parliament has every opportunity to provide that
scrutiny on this issue as we go through this process, but I
recognise I set out that bold plan for a global Britain last week and
directly lies there is an appetite in this House to see that set out in
a White Paper. The question from my honourable friend the member from
Brock still last week in the same vein, I can confirm to the house
that the plan will be set out in a White Paper published in this House.
This is Outside Source live from the BBC newsroom.
Our lead story is Donald Trump has signed executive orders launching
plans to build a wall on the US-Mexico border and limiting
funds to cities that protect illegal immigrants.
We are talking about a number of stories, there have been a number of
significant developments involving the Trump administration. Earlier we
talked about Mr Trump saying he would get on with building the
border wall between America and US, he has changed the way that
sanctuary cities operate, these are cities that don't necessarily
cooperate with federal agencies looking at immigration, Mr Trump
wants to change that. Then this story which the New York
Times is running, an article that claims, the BBC is not able to
confirm, that the Trump administration is preparing
executive orders that would drastically reduce the US role in
the United Nations and other international organisations.
Let's go back to Anthony live in Washington, DC. Is anybody else
backing up this New York Times article? That is the only report I
have seen at the moment but it doesn't surprise me given the level
of rhetoric coming out of the Trump administration and Trump on the
campaign Trail directed towards international organisations and the
UN, which has attracted a particular amount of scorn from conservative
circles when the Security Council had their resolution condemning
Israel for its involvement in the occupied territories, so I think
this reflects that. Nonetheless, if this happened, and I
don't mean to be melodramatic, it would fundamentally reshape the way
that all the major international bodies in the world work, wouldn't
it? The US is central to them at the moment. UN bashing is nothing new
among Republicans, I remember Ronald Reagan made comments about the UN at
the time, it was not followed by action. We will have to wait and see
exactly what the details, the parameters of what the Trump
administration is proposing, if it is merely reducing US funds going to
the UN that is nothing particularly new, republican governments have
done that before, drastically cutting back support for
environmental issues and various other causes in the UN urges the
overall juice that the US is meant to pay, but if it is something more
than that then it would be a significant change, we have never
seen Republican administrations talked down the North Atlantic
Treaty Organisation in the past, that is definitely knew. Stay with
us, we will play a couple of reports and come back to you, more and more
questions are coming in, if you want to find Anthony Zurcher online, that
is his name on Twitter, and we all using the #BBCOS hashtag if you want
to exchange information and answer questions.
Let's get some more detail now on sanctuary cities.
The BBC's Franz Strasser has been finding out more about them
We will end the sanctuary cities, cities that refuse to cooperate with
federal authorities will not receive taxpayer dollars.
We're not going to be by federal policy that has us compromise values
that we know are very defining for our community.
What is a sanctuary city? All it means is that when a president comes
in contact with local law enforcement, he will not be asked
about his legal status and the local jail won't hold undocumented
immigrants for deportation proceedings unless they regard them
as violent criminals. Despite threats of funding cuts by
Donald Trump, major US cities have already come out in favour of
remaining sanctuaries. They represent a quarter of all
undocumented residents in the US. And if they don't cooperate, it will
be hard for the President-elect to enforce his deportation plan.
I want you to know your city will stand by you and protect you every
step of the way. At the root of this debate are the
values of Santa Fe, they are values that have been in place since the
earliest days more than 400 years ago. With 14% of our population
being made up of immigrants, we can't afford to lose them back into
the shadows all to see them leave our community, because we rely on
them showing up day in, day out, to provide critical services to our
community. My childrens are American citizens,
and I am not. And that worries me a lot because we could be separated.
This woman entered the country illegally with her parents as a
child. An executive order by President Obama in 2012 gave the
temporary legal status, a place in nursing school and a job at the
hospital. Yet, I have a better job, my kids have a better
quality-of-life, we have better quality-of-life. We were thinking
about buying a house. Yeah, because I feel safe, I don't feel a great --
afraid. That executive order, along with city century status, is under
threat. My fear is that I will not feel free any more, I will not feel
confident to buy house, what will happen after that? People will start
working again like back then, cleaning houses, yard work,
construction. Without licence. Critics of sanctuary cities say they
shield criminals from being detected by federal authorities and put
residents in danger. People who are here to work and work
hard, I don't think they will be affected by any of the sweeping
changes, it is more about the drug cartels. We have a massive drug
problem in New Mexico. When it comes to the murder rate, Santa Fe says
quite well against similar sized cities actively cooperating with the
immigration and for Smit agency. Santa Fe's mayor says that while the
city has always pursued violent criminals, it will not use local
police to enforce sweeping deportation plans.
We need law enforcement to focus on combating crime which can be hurtful
to citizens, not being deportation agents of the federal policy seeking
to destroy families and hurt people. We are looking at the Trump
administration today and the many new policies it is bringing in. This
is what has happened to the Dow Jones.
The major business story of the day - the Dow Jones hit 20,000 today.
The Dow Jones had been gaining value since the election of Donald Trump.
It went from just under 18,000 when he was elected to 20,000 today.
Let's get more on this from Samira Hussain.
What should we see the Dow Jones as? What does it represent? It is
looking at a grouping of the biggest US companies and how they are
trading. Really what this signifies is it has crossed this milestone of
going above 20,000 points. Does it really represent something
significant? In a way, not really, it is just a nice really round
number that people can wrap their heads around. It communicates a few
things with regard to investor sentiment and I think you
highlighted that when you mentioned the fact that we have seen markets
skyrocketed since the election of Donald Trump. With a lot of the
executive orders that we have seen Mr Trump signing in the last few
days, it is a sign for Wall Street and investors that he will be making
good on some of the promises he has major in the election campaign. Some
of the things that people on Wall Street are really concerned about
our regulations, and he wants to see the rollback of some of the banking
regulations that have come into place and the reforms of some of
America's tax codes. Based on some of the things we have seen in the
first few days of his administration it seems like there could be likely.
We appreciated. In the second half of the programme we will be live on
the Washington newsroom and the State Department. Keep your
questions coming, we will get you plenty of answers.
Thank you for joining me and welcome to our latest update on a number of
stories from around the world that have caught my eye