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Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

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Donald Trump is in Paris but the questions about his son's decision

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to take a meeting with a Russian lawyer have followed the President

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across the Atlantic. I do think this, I think from a practical stand

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point, most people would have taken that meeting.

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That was during a press conference with Emmanuel Macron. You can see

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them there. Of course they have major disagreements on climate

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change and the Paris Agreement. If it happens, that will be

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wonderful, and if it doesn't, that will be OK too.

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Nobel Prize Winner and Chinese dissident

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He took part in the Tiananmen Square protests - but had spent most

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The UK Government has published a bill that aims to convert all EU

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It's as complicated as it sounds - we'll try to explain it.

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And if you've got any questions on that or anything else we're

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President Trump has begun a two-day trip to France.

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Here are pictures earlier showing President Trump and his wife being

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greeted by Emmanuel Macron and his wife. From there they went to the

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Elysee Palace, that I were getting ready for dinner in the Eiffel

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Tower. The President was taken with what happened. But before he set

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off, he wanted to make clear to all of us this is not going distract me

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from what is going on at home. He said I have very little time for

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watching TV. He is very keen on watching TV, particularly network

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new, they have held this press conference and inevitably there were

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questions about Donald Trump Jr's decision to meet a Russian lawyer,

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in Trump tower last year. As far as my son season concerned.

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He with a wonderful young man, he took a meeting with a Russian

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lawyer, not a government lawyer, but a Russian lawyer. It was a short

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meeting. It was a meeting that went very very quickly, very fast, two

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other people were in the room. One of them left almost immediately and

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the other one was not really focussed on the meeting. I do think

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this, think from a practical stand point, most people would have taken

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that meeting. It is call opposition research or

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even research endo your opponent. To be clear from the e-mails we saw

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from Donald Trump Jr, the e-mails that press conference faced the

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setting up of that meeting said that damaging information on Hillary

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Clinton would be provided via a lawyer, but the information was

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coming from the Russian Government as part of its support for the Trump

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campaign. That is worth bearing in mind.

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David Eades is covering the visit to Paris, I wanted to know if the issue

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of his son was overshadowing the President's visit. I wouldn't say it

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is overshadowed it really. It has been a melange of issues to address

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here, that is clearly one which the White House pack is homing in on and

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will be taken back and in terms of domestic politics, critically

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important, but you know, there was discussion about Iraq and Syria,

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very much a message of cooperation between the likes of France and the

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US, there was discussion even about China, frankly and what they thought

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of the Chinese leader, about climate change with Donald Trump throwing up

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vague suggestion that maybe a deal can yet be done, a compromise could

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be reached which is going to introduce another element of

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interest to that issue, where we all thought it subsided somewhat. Then

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perhaps the pithiest question was about Trump's view of France,

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because in his election campaign, he was talking about Paris isn't Paris

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any more because of immigration and terror threats. France can't look

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after itself, and here, he nailed that issue and said you have to a

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new man in charge, a new President. A great President, a strong

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President, and he will make things right, and I will come back again.

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So, I am sure that is what the French will pick up on. More in a

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moment. Here is a tweet from Donald Trump.

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The two seem to be getting on very well.

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The press conference was very convivial -

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these two have had major differences.

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Before the French election, Donald Trump appeared to support

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She was in the second round run off against Emmanuel Macron. Mr Trump

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said she is the strongest on boarders.

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Then of course there was the famous muscular handshake between the two

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in May when they first met. It seemed to go on and on and on. And

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Mr Macron said there was no no accident. He had deliberately done

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this so that he could send a message.

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He said it was a moment of truth. But on more fundamental matters the

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men have big differences. Emmanuel Macron has been critical of Donald

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Trump's decision to pull the US out of the Paris Agreement. The issue

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came up in the press conference, this was Donald Trump and Emmanuel

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Macron talking, but Mr Trump's response was curious to say the

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least. I disagree about the reading we have of the Paris Agreement. We

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have disagreements about this accord. And about the decision made

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by President Trump. Something could happen with respect to the Paris

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accord, we will see what happen, but we will talk about that over the

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coming period of time. And if it happen, that will be wonderful, and

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if it doesn't, that will be OK too. What do you make of that? Curious,

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those are the G20 summits, where there was no getting away from the

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fact that America was completely separate from all of the other

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members of the G20, on climate change. They didn't even try to

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dress it up. They had a paragraph saying this is America's situation.

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The language we heard there was different. So what does David make

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of that I have spoken to one or two of the Washington insiders, they

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said we have heard this before, let us wait and see if anything comes on

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it. Fascinating stuff, does it actually material hides? That is a

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big question. A final word on the relationship between these two, they

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are a curious couple. On one level they disagree on a lot. On another

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there seems to be a certain chemistry. Very different characters

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in many ways, as you say very different policy views in others but

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these are two alpha males here, we used to have Francois Hollande and

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Barack Obama, you couldn't ask for a more different ambience now, they

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are obviously up in the Eiffel Tower, tucking into a dinner

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together, building a relationship, and I think, it may be true to say,

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Donald Trump recognises that Macron is not there to be pushed around. He

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is here to stay, he is serious, he is strong and that might work well

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for both men. It could be terrible, could go the other way, the feeling

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is they are building rapport for the future.

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Pulled up the live feed we have coming in from, there it was, it

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disappeared. I was going to show you the live feed, there we go, it is

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back, the live feed from Paris you can see the spotlight at the top,

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that is where Emmanuel Macron and Donald Trump and their wives are

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having dinner at the moment. In the Jules Verne restaurant. It has been

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cleared out. Six courses apparently and they will not be short of

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anything to talk about. I presume they won't be using translator, we

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know Emmanuel Macron speaks excellent French. Speaks excellent

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French? He speaks English too! Now one of the main stories

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in the BBC News room. The Chinese dissident,

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writer and Nobel Peace prize winner, He was being treated

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for liver cancer. He spent most of the last

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seven years in prison. And only very recently had he been

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transferred to hospital. He was in prison for

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what the Chinese authorities called "subversion" -

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what he'd actually done is call We asked Celia Hatton

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to record her thoughts on the story. The hospital said, he is just too

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sick to go abroad. We can't allow that, but the real story, or an

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alter mass story seems to come out from his family member, they managed

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to get messages out into the outside world, saying look, Liu Ziaobo wants

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to go overseas, people who were close to him told me he was really

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concerned is about, he was, he knew he was going to die, he was in the

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late stages of terminal liver cancer. But what he really wanted

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was for his wife, the love of his life to be able to go overseas with

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him, and then to be able to live a life in exile. She had been living

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under house arrest since he had been awarded the Nobel peace prize in

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2010 and really his last wish was to ensure her freedom.

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Liu Ziaobo was important because he was able to write a road map for

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what he thought should happen to China in the future. Many people

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over the years have called for freedom in China, have called for

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democracy, but Liu Ziaobo did it in a way that was unrelenting and

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prolific, he wrote poem, essays all with the same message, calling for a

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non-violent change of Government in China. An end to Communist party

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rule and the birth of democracy, but the document that put him away was

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called charter 08. It outlined in incredibly explicit Frank terms what

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China needed to do, to become a fully formed democracy. And it

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lengthy document. And it doesn't lengthy document. And it doesn't

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mince words. It was Frank enough to terrify the Chinese authorities.

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For years, western Governments and human rights organisations have been

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calling for Liu Ziaobo 's freedom. Calling for his wife's freedom and

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of course there was outrage when he died. But many people are saying

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this didn't go far enough. Particularly at the G20 meeting

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which was just held in Germany a few days ago, no western leader, no

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world leader directly challenged Chinese President to his face, in

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public, calling for Liu Ziaobo to be allowed to go overseas. Many people

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are saying that is a failing, that should be a great shame to western

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Governments, that they didn't go far enough, they didn't go further.

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Those same people are a killing on those same Governments and

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organisations to speak up again and to ensure that Liu Ziaobo 's wife is

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able to go and live a life in exile. Thank you.

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The UK Government has published a key part of its Brexit Stategy -

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It will repeal the law from 1972 which took Britain

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into what was then called the European Economic Community.

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And it will transpose EU law into British law -

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so the same rules apply on the day of Brexit as the day before.

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But the UK Parliament will then have the power to change them.

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The Brexit Secretary David Davis has called it "one of the most

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significant pieces of legislation that has ever passed

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We will not support the bill at second reading unless the Government

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makes a fund. Aal change to address the concerns expressed by us and

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other members of Parliament. I tries to do a lot in 19 clauses, I think

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it will require careful scrutiny, in terms of the powers which it gives

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Government and how they are to be exercised, Unamended we won't vote

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for this, we will amend it. It doesn't provide the provision for

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devolution of powers. Just those clips give you an idea of the

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pressures coming to bear from all directions. I have been speaking to

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Leila Natho. This is a numbers game. They are going to struggle to get

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this bill through. The Government are saying look, this is a

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technicality, we have to bring these laws back in to UK laws so we can

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choose which bits which keep and tinker with and which we throw out

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entirely. Already, as you heard there, we have heard from opposition

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parties they do not like the bill in its current form. There are disputes

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over what it means for the devolved administrations, Labour are

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focussing very much on human rights legislation and they want there to

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be much more a role for parliamentary scrutiny. And it only

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takes a few Kvitova rebels for this bill to be derailed so I think we

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will see start to see certainly over the coming months before this bill

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is debated, signs of compromises on the Government's parts because, as

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you say, they do not have the numbers to get this bill through.

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Help me understand the opposition Labour Party's position? It supports

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Brexit happening so how it is justifying being this awkward? You

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are right. So Labour agreed to help the Government to start the Brexit

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process triggering Article 50, the official way that Britain began its

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exit from the EU. But what this provides is the first real chance

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for Labour and the other opposition parties to tinker with the

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government's vision for Brexit. So it provides a platform really for

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Labour to say we are going to get our version of Brexit on to the stat

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toad books. If you take the Charter of Fundamental Rights, the

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Government saying it is not going to incorporate that charter into EU

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law, it will protect rights in other ways, Labour are very clear on that,

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that that is a red line for them, they want that charrer into UK law,

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incorporated as it is now. And that is just one example, so what this is

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coming down to is specific, now, we are into the specific policy areas,

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and the specific visions of Brexit, and that is where the opposition

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parties think they can play a role. If you have more questions on

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Brexit, either send them my way or if you go online there is is a vast

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amount of information explaining all of the elements of Brexit on the BBC

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News website available do you now. Stay with us on Outside

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Source - still to come. Boris Nemtsov two years ago.

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for killing Russian politician, The questions of who ordered them

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to do, though, remains unanswered. We will have Sarah Rainsford's

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report. The Department for Transport says

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the amount would have been higher, but most of the possible problem

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were down strike action and high levels of staff sickness. Richards

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we Court was at Victoria Station and told us how the fine was being seen.

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Most people would agree it is relatively small, if you bear in

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mind that southern gets about a billion pounds a year to run the

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whole contract, it has to pay for the train, that is not profit, it

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says it doesn't make any profit but the Government put in ?300 million

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into Network Rail, so they could improve the track, and they have

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given ?20 million for further improvements on the line to

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Southern. If you look at scale it cost to improve rail service, then

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?13 million doesn't seem very much. We are live from the BBC News room.

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Donald Trump has been welcomed by Emmanuel Macron, on his two day

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visit to France, and President Trump has been defending his son's

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decision to meet a Russian lawyer last year. He also made some curious

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comments about the Paris climate change agreement which are almost

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impossible to decipher, he said perhaps there was some movement on

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the issue. Some of the main storieser from BBC

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World Service. This from Brazil. We've had confirmation from Lula da

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Silva that the former Brazilian president will appeal

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against his nine-and-a-half year In the meantime he can run

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in next year's presidential Six Afghan girls who had been

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refused visas will now be able to attend. The

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This dashcam footage from southern China is one of the BBC's

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It shows the moment a landslide struck a road.

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Eight vehicles were buried - fortunately no-one lost their life.

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The slide was caused by a long period of rain.

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Five men convicted of murdering the Russian opposition figure

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Boris Nemstov have been given long prison sentences.

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Mr Nemstov was shot dead outside the Kremlin more than two years ago.

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And still his family maintain whoever ordered the killing

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back on The convicted killer of one of President Putin's greatest

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critic. Five men from Chechnya wait to hear their sentence, this man

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shot Boris Nemtsov in the back. The court was packed full, with press,

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police, and relatives. All five men looked passive,

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indifferent, even amused at times. As the sentence came in the gunman

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wrote the word lie in the steam in front of him.

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Good will be your judge this man says.

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All five claim they are innocent. It took half an hour in the end to

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read the verdict in this case, in the end the judge confirmed what the

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jury had said, that all five men on trial for murdering Boris Nemtsov

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are guilty and are going to face a long time in high security jails.

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Boris Nemtsov was murdered right next to the Kremlin. His killers

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trailed him for months before they struck. Their victim was once a

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popular political high flyer. A regional governor and a former

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Deputy Prime Minister. UnDecember President Putin he became

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a sharp voice of dissent. Hours before his murder, Boris

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Nemtsov was on the radio. Calling people to a protest march.

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It became a march of mourning. Mourning. President Putin denounced

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the murder as shameful and ordered it solved but the person who ordered

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the killing is still at large. We want some answers, on the question,

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who has been just the killer, who has been the perpetrator, but we

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have no official answers on the question, where are organisers and

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sponsors of thises a nation so is the main problem of this case. Boris

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Nemtsov 's family believes the evidence leads to Chechnya where

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these men are from and security figures close to the Kremlin. The

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convicted killers are giving no clues.

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The Chief Executive of Qatar Airways has said the airline still plans

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to buy a stake in American Airlines - despite the US carrier ending

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a code-share agreement between the two companies.

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Michelle Fleury is covering this for us in New York.

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Hi Michelle. What is a code sharing agreement? This is, I don't know if

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you have gone online, you have bought a ticket, say with America,

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with British Airways, but when it comes to catching the flight it is

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maybe on another carrier, that is a code sharing agreement, in action,

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it is allowing customers to buy a broader range of flights but through

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the airline you are going through. Now this is part of a broader fight

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or spat if you like, amid between American Airlines and adequate tar

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airlines, Qatar airlines is trying to buy a 10% stake in American

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Airlines which the board of American is not too thrilled about but there

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isn't much they can do about it. At the same tie they are accused Qatar

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of receiving benefits from their Government, which they say is

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putting them at a disadvantage and is a asking the White House to look

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at this. Is any of this political? Is this related to that at all? It

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isn't related and what is interesting you have the CEO of

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Qatar Airlines saying that ban it faces in the Monfils is having an

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impact on profits. This code sharing agreement is not likely to have a

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huge impact on Qatar airlines profit, but it shows the tensions

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that exist between the carrier, and its American counterpart, and I

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think it is one to watch, certainly as I mentioned American Airlines has

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gone to the US Government to ask for help on this. We will talk about

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Artificial intelligence has been accused of threatening everything

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But it's ALSO being called the most important technology to come

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So Microsoft has outlined a code of ethics for

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One face near top right. Take picture. What if art intelligence

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could see your world. Microsoft engineer who is blind is showing me

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a new app called seeing AI. Designed to help visually impaired people. As

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well as reading text, it can tell him about the people in front of

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him. As sometimes he gets it wrong. 50-year-old man looking happy. I am

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getting younger. This is an application close to my heart, but

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the general AI we show is applicable in so many different ways.

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From round the world Microsoft scientists came to London to show

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off their project. Like this live translation system for

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presentations. Or software which can search through

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hours of closed circuit TV as well as a leader in technology, the firm

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has come up with ethical principles for AI Microsoft believes we are

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create AI to amplify human ingenuity. I want to endow you with

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super powers. Microsoft is one of a tech giants battling to profit from

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advanced in artificial intelligence which give continues skills once

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restricted to humans, so they are learning to see S driverless cars

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can see exactly where they go for example. They are learning to hear

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what we say and to respond to it so Alexa or Sirry can respond when we

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ask them to give us the new or recommend a restaurant. They are

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even making judgments, on whether a scan shows a malignant or benign

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Nuer n this battle over the crucial technology, Google and Facebook are

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spending vast sums on research. But China refuses to be left behind.

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Investing heavily to build robots that will take over from humans in

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its vast factories. It looks like it is going to transform economy and

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industry, make us all happier and the companies who get there first

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will take the spoil, they will take the rewards, so you have to come out

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loud and you have to come out strong.

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Progress in artificial intelligence has been more rapid than predicted

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and companies like Microsoft know they can't afford to fall behind.

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Rory ends this half of Outside Source, see you in a couple of

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minutes. It is that time of day we look at

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interesting weather events currently happening round the world. First

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