04/09/2017 Outside Source

Hello, I'm Ros Atkins, this is Outside Source.

The world is trying to agree how to respond to North Korea

There's condemnation from all sides - but compare and contrast

When a rogue regime has a nuclear weapons and an ICBM pointed at you,

you do not take steps to lower your guard. TRANSLATION: The peninsular

issue must be resolved peacefully. China will never allow chaos and war

on the peninsula. And the transgender model dropped

by L'Oreal for saying "all white people benefit from racism"

has spoken to the BBC. I did write two bookends to the

quote, talking about what people can do if they want to help, if they

want to help end racism. Obviously it was taken out of context. All

people saw was the angry middle bit. Plus BBC Arabic on the Islamic State

Group under pressure in Syria - and a BBC investigation

into IS recruitment in the UK. The American ambassador

to the United Nations, has urged fellow members

of the security council to take the strongest possible measures

against North Korea. China took a different view,

saying that it would "never allow A day after North Korea's most

powerful nuclear tests, the South displayed it might. Missiles were

launched from the ground and the air. It was a test run. South Korea

showing off how it could attack Pyongyang's nuclear site. This is a

strong reaction from a country that for months now has been desperately

trying to avoid conflict in the Korean peninsula. Across the sea in

Japan, the government gave worrying details about North Korea's latest

test. TRANSLATION: The evidence suggests

that the North conducted a hydrogen bomb test. The government had to

conclude the test was a success, considering the huge power is

generated. Pyongyang has successfully tested a weapon that

poses a grave threat to Japan's security. A hydrogen bomb is vastly

more powerful than the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima, and North Korea

says that is what its leader is looking at here. The country has

conducted six nuclear tests so far. But the pace has really accelerated

since Kim Jong-un came to power. In New York, at an emergency UN

Security Council meeting, the US lashed out at the North Korean

leader. Nuclear powers understand the responsibilities. Kim Jong-un

shows no such understanding. His abusive use of missiles and his

nuclear threats show he is begging for war. The people in South Korea

have dealt with the threat from the North for a long time now. But

perhaps never before has a nuclear test and multiple missile tests come

in such quick succession. Really ratcheting up the pressure on the

government here in Seoul and it's allies. This is America's latest

anti-missile system, designed to shoot down enemy rockets. It has now

been deployed in South Korea. The Allies might be able to defend

themselves against an attack. But no matter how much North Korea provokes

them, striking the country's nuclear base is not an easy option. This is

very important. North Korea will certainly retaliate and South Korea

will be the main victim of being sandwiched between the hardline

United States and North Korea. And so, for now, South Korea continues

to build up its arsenal, while hoping never to use it.

In the last couple of weeks we have talked a great deal about the Iraqi

government's efforts to reclaim the town of Tal Afar in the north-west

of the country, reclaim it from the Islamic State group. Last week they

said they had done that, and now we must turn attention to Syria.

This week in Syria, government forces there say they're closing

Half of it and much of the surrounding province

It's particular important to the group because its de facto

For more on this I've been speaking to Rasha Qandeel from BBC Arabic.

The Deir al-Zour battle is most probably more important than Raqqa,

because basically the SDF is closing the ammunition line on the way

The SDF being the Syrian Defence Force?

And it's closing the ammunition line in front of so-called Islamic State.

So if the battle is basically for the American forces

and the Syrian regime forces, and most probably the Syrian

opposition forces, that means that Islamic State,

so-called Islamic State, is defeated in Raqqa as well.

As we know, it is the capital for the caliphate of this organisation.

So the Deir al-Zour battle is essential for the organisation,

So we are in a strange situation where different countries

and different groups, who don't agree on lots of things,

And Deir al-Zour specifically is very important for all priorities.

From the West, for example, it's very important for the Syrian

regime, from the east it is important for the backed

opposition, by the umbrella of the American air force.

So they say, other people that are watching over this battle,

they say it is part of the bigger arrangements between

So, for example, if the Syrian regime is coming over the parts

the United States doesn't want the Syrian regime to come,

And if the opposition is going a little bit towards the west,

where it becomes the south of Syria, where it becomes Daraa,

it belongs a little bit to the territories where Jordan

and the South is affected, they might actually

Do you remember when we were talking about parts of the Madaya siege?

The humanitarian situation was catastrophic.

A few months ago we were saying that if the arrangement

between the United States and Russia is becoming complicated

in the south, this is actually the south-east.

So this is when you and I were talking a few months ago and saying

there might be a situation where it is going to become very

crowded on the ground, as it was crowded in the air,

and it is happening now in Deir al-Zour.

That have been a number of deadly terror attacks in the UK this year.

All of them have been claimed by the Islamic State group. This was the

Westminster attack when a car was driven into pedestrians. These are

pictures that came in on the evening of the London Bridge attack, when a

number of people were stabbed and a van was used as a weapon. A BBC

investigation has found that IS was trying to recruit people for attacks

in the same locations, and they were doing this back in 2016. This is

part of a report by the BBC London team, Inside Out. Reporters, posing

as teenagers, contacted recruiters and passed the information to

security forces as it was received. Here is a clip about a reporter

talking to a recruiter trying to convince into to attack London

Bridge in 2016. He was trying to persuade me to

carry out some attacks. He also gave me the option of doing it alone or

along with 18. -- along with a team. In December of last year, the same

recruiter directed our journalist to view explicit terrorist tutorials on

the Dark Web. One showed how to use a vehicle how to kill people. The

other showed how to use knives and home-made bombs for maximum impact

on people. Finally, there was a description of how to create a fake

suicide vest, and how it can be used to stop the police from attacking

you if you are standing next to civilians.

That clip was from BBC London Inside Out's investigation -

you can see bits of it online or the whole piece

Zack Adesina is from the team, earlier I asked him how hard

It was actually very easy at the time.

What they were doing was advertising themselves on Twitter and Facebook.

Once they had made contact with someone, or someone had

made contact with them, they then introduce

How quickly does the conversation escalate from general discussions

around Islamic State and its beliefs to the specifics of

Well, the longest time was four weeks.

What you have to realise is that they are texting insistently.

One of our reporters was receiving up to 24 messages a day.

Do you have any indication as to where these recruiters were?

We are aware that they were in Syria.

Some of them, in their attempts to groom our undercover reporters,

So they would film themselves in Syria.

We also know from other sources that they were in Syria.

Presumably, what we are learning here is that multiple attempts

were made to find people who would carry out the kind

Think you have hit it on the nail, that is exactly what the plans are.

What we have discovered is that they attempt to groom

several people at any time online, on social media sites.

We've also discovered from a psychologist that they use

So they have a certain trope, a way of pulling people in,

and it is a method they use almost like they shoot several places

and they only need one hits to get someone to carry out their acts.

I must ask, because people will be wondering.

Once you start engaging with people that are planning terrorism?

The law is that you should not engage, and anyone that does

is breaking the law and is breaking terrorism laws specifically.

We were in contact with the security services right from the beginning

and every single exchange we had with them was passed

Of course, the problem for them is how to identify one item as a red

alert as opposed to one that is a dud.

That is the difficulty that they have.

In a few minutes, I will play you how one transgender model who was

dropped by L'Oreal for saying all white people benefit from racism has

had to say about that decision. The policing Minister has told

the Police Superintendents conference that the Government

'is not deaf' to their concerns over Nick Hurd said in the light

of recent budget cuts he realised there was a limit to how much more

officers could do. A survey of superintendents found

half were suffering from work related anxiety and a quarter had

signs of depression. The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

have announced they're The Duchess is again

suffering from a severe form of morning sickness -

as she has done with her previous pregnancies -

which meant she had to cancel Our royal correspondent

Nicholas Witchell reports. The Duchess of Cambridge last week,

with her husband and Prince Harry. No hint then of the announcement

of a third baby for Kensington Palace was forced

to disclose the pregnancy this morning because the Duchess had had

to pull out of a public engagement because of acute morning sickness,

the condition she experienced She's now resting

at Kensington Palace. According to the statement,

the Queen - opening the Queensferry Crossing

near Edinburgh this morning - and other members of

the Royal Family are The baby will be the Queen's sixth

great-grandchild and will be fifth It's more than four years

now since the birth This is an important week for him -

he is due to start at his new school in London, something his mother

certainly won't want to miss. The couple's second child,

Princess Charlotte, She's fourth in the line

of succession and she will retain that position even if the new baby

is a boy. On a visit by the Cambridges

to Poland a few weeks ago, Catherine joked about having another

baby when she was presented It didn't seem

significant at the time. Today, Prince Harry said

he was delighted at the prospect I haven't seen her for a while,

but I think she's OK. The news that there's to be a third

child for the Cambridges comes just as William is beginning full-time

Royal duties. Soon, the team of four

will become five. Kensington Palace hasn't said

when the new baby is due, but it must be assumed that it

will be around March of next year. The lead story is that the world is

continuing to try to fashion a response to North Korea's latest

nuclear test, but China and the US have very different ideas of how to

go about that. Colombia now -

and another significant step A rebel group called

the National Liberation Army or ELN We thank all of those

who backed our efforts to reach this This is the first time ELN

and the government have agreed It starts on October

1st and was announced TRANSLATION: It will come into

effect on October the 1st, initially That is to say until January

the 12th of next year. And it will be renewed,

depending on how the negotiations over the other

points continue and are fulfilled. That's why, during this period,

kidnappings, oil pipeline attacks and other hostilities

against the civilian There will be some people watching

that will know all about the FARC rebels, but not this group. Can you

tell us about them? Yes, ELN was formed at about the same time as the

FARC, strongly inspired by the Cuban revolution and they are strongly

Marxist. Another element that differentiates them from FARC is

that ELN has very close sympathies to the Catholic Church, because

Catholic priests were members of the group some time ago. That is the

difference between the two groups. What was it hoping to achieve, and

can we say it has achieved any of its goals? Well, the ELN has

achieved territorial control in some parts of the country. I have a map

behind me of the country. This area on the Pacific post has been in

control of ELN for quite some time. The area behind my head, the border

with Venezuela, has also been in their control. It is not full

control, they are constantly fighting with state forces, but they

are very strong in the area and they profit, or used to profit, until

this truce, from kidnapping, extortion and other means. So means

they say they don't use, but the government accuses them of using,

also profiting from drug trafficking and other illegal businesses such as

illegal gold mining. It is no confidence we have this announcement

just before the Pope arrives? That is exactly right. The visit has been

crucial. The ELN and the government have been pushing very hard to try

to figure out a way of reaching disagreement, this ceasefire, so

that they could announce it in the context of the Pope's visit. As I

said earlier, one key element is the close relationship and sympathy

between the ELN and the Catholic Church. Thank you very much for

taking us through that. We will be keeping a close eye on the Pope's

visit to Colombia. We have had live reports from Colombia, Texas and

also from Bangladesh. Next we are going to the BBC sports centre, to

speak to Nick. Lots of World Cup qualifiers going on ahead of Russia

next year. Over to you. Their goals flying in quick and fast. Germany

have thrashed Norway 6-0, although certainly guaranteeing top spot.

Azerbaijan out of it, the -- they showed real class to beat San

Marino. Top played bottom as Poland beat Khalistan 3-0. Lewandowski got

their third. They lost 4-0 to Denmark just days ago. There is a

real battle for second. England top their group by five

points after a 2-1 win over Slovakia at Wembley. Eric Dier and Marcus

Rashford with the goals. It leaves them within touching distance of

next year's World Cup. Slovakia stay in second spot. Scotland and

Slovenia also won and are locked on 14 points, each in third and fourth

respectively. Rafael Nadal made it through to the

US open quarterfinals for the seventh time in his career by

defeating his Ukrainian opponent. It was fast, just one hour and 41

minutes from first serve to match point. The Spaniard won 6-2, 6-4,

6-1. He hasn't made the US open last eight since capturing the 2013

title. Christina Pliskova and last year's runner-up, she needed just 60

minutes to sweep past Jennifer Brodie. It is her third slam

quarterfinal. Star India has won the digital rights for the Indian

Premier League, paying $2.5 billion for a five-year deal. Sony was the

only other bidder. Facebook tried to pay $600 million for a five-year

deal to stream the matches online to India and other surrounding

countries, but missed out to Star. 14 companies made bids for different

elements, but the consolidated offer won all. The Mumbai Indians won the

2017 competition. Dave -- big-money flying around.

There is much more on the BBC sport app if you want it.

You may well have read about Munroe Bergdorf

She was was the first transgender model to appear in a cosmetics

But then she wrote a Facebook post where she argued that "all white

Once I posted it, it was drenched with alt-right

supporters, just people going at each other.

In the post I was extremely angry and frustrated.

I think we all were, about the Charlottesville attacks.

About Heather dying, and just the fact

that racism exists and we are not really doing anything to counter it.

I don't think people really understand what

I'm talking about all white people benefit from white privilege.

It stems from a society that was put in place

and built to benefit white people above any other race.

Race doesn't actually exist, it's a made up thing.

But the lighter your skin tone, the more privileges you will

For instance, if I'm a light skinned woman, I will have a

lot more social privilege and a dark skinned, black woman.

I did write two bookends to that original quote,

which actually talked about what people can do

if they want to help, if they want to help end racism.

But obviously it was taken out of context.

All people saw was the angry middle bit.

I think they have the opportunity to actually talk about

why we need diversity and talk about why

racism actually exists in the first place.

They can't hire somebody and expect them to keep their mouth shut

when it comes to inconvenient truths.

One bit of copy to show you before we end the programme, the National

hurricane Centre in the US says that Hurricane Irma has been upgraded to

a category four storm and is heading towards the Caribbean.