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With energy bills biting harder than ever, is the Government's

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great energy gamble working? you're spending 10% of your

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disposable income and someone slaps on another 20% price increase, what

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do you do? You can't invent the money. What fate awaits the

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increasing number of people already struggling to keep the cold at bay?

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I'm really scared about this coming winter. Because, if it is really

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cold, what do we do? Do we put the heating on and not eat properly?

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Ministers blame forces beyond their control profit hungry companies and

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world gas prices. So why is the government so hooked on these when

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they cost so much money? And we uncover the strange tale of how

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Tony Blair saddled us with a very hefty bill. Perhaps he saw it as an

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important big gesture, but maybe lost track of the details such as

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the tens of billions of pounds that this was going to cost the UK

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consumers. Tonight - what's really fuelling your bill policy or

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We are power hungry, day and night we depend on energy to feed our

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economy and run our homes. But the bill for that vital spark is higher

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than ever, on average �1,345 per So is this price hike a painful

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blip or the start of an agonizing trend? To answer we'll need to

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reach behind the switch to understand the mechanics of the

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energy business and how politicians But first, it's getting chilly in

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Paula McCrudden lights the fire as usual, but it brings her little

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comfort. But just give me a feeling a few years back, how much did you

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worry about energy bills? I didn't. I honestly didn't give it a second

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thought. The bill used to come, pay it. Not a problem, you know. Those

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days have gone forever. It's a fear that you're going to get into

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trouble. You either have your heating on, and cut way back on the

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food, which we've already cut back on, or you don't have the heating

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on, and have a little bit extra for food. Paula is officially in fuel

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poverty, as more than 10% of her income is spent on fuel. She's one

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of over 6 million households in the same predicament the number rising

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daily. I mean what I do is, if I can cook two things in the oven,

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say today's dinner say it's a pie or something, and a stew, put them

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in at the same time so I don't have to put the oven on again tomorrow.

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You have to think of all sorts of ways to, you know, just to sort of

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cut back. Paula tries hard to reduce her bills. Monitoring her

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electricity usage online, she's shopped around for the best deals

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and even made her home energy efficient. But still, things have

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got so bad she's even changing her winter wardrobe. So what have we

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got here? This is my winter wear. This is my little furry boots that

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I wear round the house to keep me warm. What I call my snugly, which

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you sort of put on. And it leaves your arms free, it wraps around you

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basically. It's quite warm. Not the highest of fashion! No, no, not

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really. But essential in your view? Yes, yeah, I'd rather look silly

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than get cold, yeah. Yeah. While we may shiver, parts of the

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economy quake in fear at high energy prices. This is Steelite,

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one of the few surviving potteries in Stoke. They make robust crockery

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for hotels and cruise liners, most of them abroad. Well the major

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consumer of energy is kilns. Obviously you need to fire the

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kilns at high temperatures in order to form them into the vast array

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that you can see around here. closely do you keep an eye on the

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cost of energy? This business checks our energy prices every

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single morning without fail. Because it's so important. It's a

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huge cost to the company. It's over �2.5 million. We need to keep a

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very close eye on it. But their success in creating both exports

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and jobs could be shattered by the fuel bill. This industry, this city,

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has lost lots of companies over the years. They continue to go. And

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unless the conditions are right, that will continue to happen.

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government appears keen to deflect anger over price rises towards

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energy companies. It's simply not fair that big energy companies can

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push their prices up for the vast majority of their consumers. We are

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making them be competitive. They're permanently being watched to make

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sure it is a competitive market. But their policy actions commit us

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to a hefty price tag - a massive switchover to homegrown low carbon

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energy, more protected from global fuel price swings. But it's a

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gamble playing with new technology, international markets and our home

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energy habits. One thing is for certain. Up front it's perilously

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expensive. And it's racking up our bills. At stake is �200 billion

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over our money, which will be spent to revolutionise the way we power

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our lives. Primarily, less dirty coal and more clean wind. If we

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spin forward to 2020, the government wants electricity from

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renewables to jump from seven-30% of output. But here is the problem.

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The traditional power generators, which are being cut back, are cheap,

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costing �78 per megawatt hour to feed into the grid, whereas

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electricity from new sources like offshore wind cost �170, more than

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double that amount. Who will have to find the money? We will. Much of

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it spent around the coast on hardware at sea on jobs on the land,

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so I went to Grimsby with Sarjit Sambi from Centrica, the UK's

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biggest energy generator. Offshore generation has two big advantages -

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the wind blows stronger, and local objections are weaker because

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nobody lives there. Centrica has these two wind farms off the

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Lincolnshire coast and they are not small. Two wind farms combined

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cover an area of around 50 square, kilometres. A each turbines is

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about 130 metres from sea-level to the top. To put that into

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perspective, the London Eye is about 120 metres so they would

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overshadow that somewhat. Offshore wind is pretty unique in the

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renewables family in the UK. It is a technology where you can see how

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you can venture near the cost down over time. It takes advantage of

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our very significant skills and capabilities in terms of Offshore

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Engineering, and we also have a great natural resource around the

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UK are ales that we can develop. Britain leads the world in offshore

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wind. Building turbines is pricey, wind is free, but there is still

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maintenance. It is eye-watering the expensive, and against government

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forecasts that those costs will fall, the cost of offshore wind

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keeps going up. A even the former government chief scientific adviser

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has concerns. Offshore wind is extraordinarily expensive and I

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would say we need to move cautiously down that route. There

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are days in the winter across the British Isles when there is

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effectively no wind to drive the turbines, so they always have to be

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duplicated by gas-fired turbines which can be switched on and off to

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cover these days of stillness. Alongside existing turbines here,

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you can see some new Stubbs growing out of the sea and that is where

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the new blades will be. To give an idea of the government's ambition,

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they will need four new feels like this each year for 10 years to hit

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their target. To make this happen, they need the energy companies.

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Before, we had a very simple concept of producing energy at the

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lowest cost. Today, we have multiple objectives. We need to

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maintain security of supply, we need to reduce carbon emissions.

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Ultimately, the �200 billion of investment will feed through to

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consumer bills. But could the energy industry pay more? The

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regulator Ofgem recently reported rising profit margins across the

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sector. Centrica made nearly �1.3 billion in the first half of this

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year. On top of that the Energy Secretary has accused the big six

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generators of predatory pricing. What do you make of Chris Huhne's

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accusations of predatory pricing? That is something which can't be

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substantiated. We don't do it. Since 2001, 17 inquiries all giving

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the UK energy industry a clean bill of health. The government knows

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wind technology will stall unless energy companies can make good

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money, so Chris Huhne has a difficult balancing act. Talking

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tough for the public, but tender for the boardroom. I will be on the

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side of the consumer, making sure there is no excess profit in there.

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They are not the Salvation Army, they obviously have to make a

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respectable return in a free market. So, where might bills be in the

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next few years? Chris Huhne would get long odds on his department's

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prediction that fuel payments could drop by the end of the decade. In

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fact, they are on their Rome. Predictions are fogged by unknowns,

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but the most recent forecast says your combined gas and electricity

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bill in 2020 will be �1,239, �100 lower than today. Citigroup thinks

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that total could be up to 50% higher, reaching �2,000. Research

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by a uSwitch.com suggests we will be paying an average of �3,202 by

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2020, nearly tripling your current bill. Whatever the precise level of

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your future bills, one reason for there acceleration skyward is

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fairly straightforward. Sadly greener energy is not cheap energy

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and we are paying for the scientist' demands and the

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politicians'' promises on climate change. One promise in particular

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lies behind the Windrush, which some believed was a multi-million

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pound gaffe. It was taken in 2007 by Tony Blair in Brussels, three

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months before he stood down. This was the decision made at a meeting

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of the heads of state of the European Union in Brussels. Tony

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Blair was a very keen advocate of action for climate change. On the

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table was Britain's commitment to renewable power by 2020. A senior

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civil servant we have spoken to says Tony Blair was advised that

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15% of renewable electricity was the maximum we could manage, but he

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emerged having signed a radically different promise, virtually

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tripling the challenge by agreeing to 15% of all energy being

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renewable. Now including heating for homes and factories, fuel for

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vehicles on top of electricity. In short, everything that used his

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power. The expectation before we went into the meeting that day was

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that we would be aiming for 15% not on energy but on electricity on the

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grid. My role in the Treasury was to try to bear down on the cost of

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energy policies, both for the taxpayer and consumer. Suddenly the

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game seemed to change. For lino is there was a meeting that carried on

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until 3 o'clock in the morning, very tired people in the meeting,

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and perhaps there was an argument about whether we should be

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electricity on the grid or total electricity. When the official we

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have spoken to heard Tony Blair had committed to the higher energy

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Perhaps he saw it as an important big gesture, but maybe lost track

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of the details such as the tens of billions of pounds that this was

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going to cost the UK consumers. you think it's possible that this

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was you would actually a gaffe? could be. It could have been? But

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was it a bad gaffe? At the time for me it was a surprise. Was it a good

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target? It may well have been a good target. Tony Blair's office

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told us it wasn't a gaffe, but a decision to protect the environment

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and help energy security. Mistake or master stroke, it's now part of

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a pricy target. Our estimate of how much needs to be spent to hit the

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target is about �25 billion a year. That is one and a third Crossrails

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a year, two-and-a-half Olympic Games a year, 2.5 times the budget

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of NASA. In fact, we could say goodbye to wind mills and launch

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our own Mars mission if we wanted to for the same amount of money.

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Back on earth, here's what passes for Mission Control - in the quest

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to rewire Britain. Well, the information on this screen is

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becoming increasingly important. It shows the weather and particularly

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the wind speed across the country. However, it's generated, National

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Grid's job is to make sure there's always power behind the switch. And

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this is the second big element fuelling your rising electricity

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bill - �17 billion to wire up the changing network. Alan Smart from

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National Grid is paid to make sure our tellies, torst and kettles keep

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running. For a conventional generator, you know when it's going

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to start generating. You know how quickly it's going to increase its

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output. With wind, it's when the wind arrives, and it's when the

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wind changes, and it's when the wind goes away. And there's another

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problem with new forms of power - geography. Traditionally, the power

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stations have been in the centre of the country. New power stations,

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new nuclear power stations around the coast, wind farms offshore -

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all of that power is coming at the edge of the power system. We've got

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to transport that power reliably to the centres of demand. That means

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more of these - the National Grid is planning 214 miles of pylons

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spread through many parts of the country from Suffolk to Cumbria.

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Down in the Somerset levels, the steel giants will stride through an

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area of outstanding natural beauty. The new nuclear reactor at Hinkley

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Point is pointless without connection to the grid.

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And this consequence of our energy revolution is not only expensive,

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but ugly, triggering a fierce back lack. You care about the

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environment. You care about the countryside, and you care about the

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next generation, but we don't want to leave them a landscape that is

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spoiled by pylons. APPLAUSE

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These protesters, like many communities, facing new pylon runs,

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want the cables underground. In the end, this sounds like a

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classic "You don't want this in your view." It couldn't be more not

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in my backyard. No, this is a totally national issue. This is

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coming across the whole of the country. What we want to do is what

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is right in the 21st century. And by right you mean invisible, in

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effect, don't you? Yeah, put them out of sight. We do that in our

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water mains and our gas mains, why not with electricity? National Grid

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describe their position on burying the cables as neutral, and they're

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still consulting with the local community, but they want people to

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be aware that undergrounding will cost us all. For this power line

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through Somerset, to underground in its entirety, would cost around a

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pound for every domestic consumer's bill for the next 40 years. You're

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talking about �100 million as opposed to a billion underground,

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billions - a lot of money. So now we have two steps to higher bills,

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pricy green energy, costly cables and here's a third. A quarter of

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our power stations are not old, they need replacing, including the

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nuclear plant at Hinckley point. How far beneath my feet is the

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actual hot stuff? We're about ten to 15 metres beneath here, so

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that's where the nuclear reaction is taking place. It's a strange mix

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of the high-tech and quite old, isn't it? You look around and see

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the telephones and things that look like they're from a period drama.

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But over the last 35 years, the important nuclear safety relate

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equipment has been constantly refurbished. Nuclear power carries

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a set of unique risks. It carries an extraordinarily high tion risk,

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a high safety risk as we've just witnessed in Fukishima, so if you

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have an accident due to an earthquake and tsunami in Japan,

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and in Germany, they decided to instantly close a whole set of

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nuclear power stations. That means it's very difficult to price that

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risk, and therefore very difficult for investers to get involved.

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despite these high potential costs and existing controversy, nuclear

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power is gaining support even from the green wing - if grudgingly.

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don't actually like nuclear power, and I would much rather we didn't

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have to have nuclear power. But the problem is that I like the

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alternatives even less, and it's become clear to me that as much as

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I dislike nuclear power, if we don't replace our nuclear power

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stations, we'll have no option but to invest in more fossil fuel.

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Government is proposing a guaranteed price for nuclear. It's

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a sweetener to encourage building, so they meet their carbon-cutting

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targets. We'll pay for the sugar, but do we know that? The Government

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can't be passive about any of this. If it's going to invest heavily in

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new wind, it's going to have to make the case for it. If it's going

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to invest heavily in nuclear, it's going to have to make the political

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case for it. It can't pretend that it can just drift along and expect

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people to accept stuff when they're not being told why it's a good idea

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to accept it. So is Government in denial about their heavy burden on

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their policies will put on consumers? You are reducing the

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production of the cheaper sources of electricity and Government

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policy is going to increase production from the more expensive.

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That's a fact, isn't it? It's not. Well, it is a fact. The figures are

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in your report. It's not a fact because the key point is it's not

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just now that we have to worry about. When you make investments in

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energy, you're making invest in thes for ten, for 20, for 30 years.

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What I can say and give the assurance is at any given point the

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total effect of Government's policy including the energy savings

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reduction is going to be able to make sure bills are lower than they

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otherwise would be. That's a promise? Overall it's an assurance

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that we can, we can. So on that vexed issue of future energy bills,

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let's look at what we've been dealt. Three of a kind - the high cost of

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low carbon, expensive story station renewal and pricy pylon runs to

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hook them up. But Chris Huhne says it's also dealing with trump cards

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- first those energy saving policies to help us cut the bill.

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And second, protection from soaring global energy prices. But is it

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really going to make energy affordable? There's room for most

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homes to save energy and money, but enough to offset price hikes? This

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is the Boaty family from St Albans. I have started to become the grumpy

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old man. I go around turning the lights off and everything and

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having a goo at the children for leaving things on and sort of

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coming back and saying, you know, the house is lit up like... A

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Christmas tree. In fact, Paul's become so switched-on about

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minimising his heating bill, he's taken fuelling the house into his

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own hands. We take? Dog for a walk in the woods. We pick up suitable

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pieces of wood lying down, bring it back, and we use it to burn in the

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winter. This would be a nice piece to have. It saves money. It's free.

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It's lying in the woods. Yeah, it's just here lying around. At home

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alongside the woodpile, they have to lagged the loft, double glazed

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and dwell in the sofa sleeping bags but even that's not enough. How are

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you finding paying your bill, your energy bills? I think we're finding

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it is becoming increasingly a struggle, a concern. I think the

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days of cheap energy are over, and the sooner everybody realises that,

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and we start planning for it, the better. Stealing ashore under the

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cover of darkness is the other threat Chris Huhne is pledging to

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fight - pricy foreign gas. He says we'll need less if we grow our own

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green power. One challenge is to get us in a

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position where we're less vulnerable to the sort of big price

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increases for oil and gas that we've seen over the last year. If

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we can get to a situation where we're using less energy and the

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energy that we are using is coming from renewable and nuclear sources

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rather than just from fossil fuels, then we're going to be less

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vulnerable to that sort of buffeting.

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On this tanker is liquefied natural gas from Qatar. Now the ship is

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safely docked, they can begin piping off the gas, which at this

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stage is still a super-cooled liquid actually flowing through

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these pipes. It will take about 24 hours to discharge the whole vessel

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before the gas flows off down those pipes, and there's enough in here

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to heat nearly five million homes for a week. But could Chris Huhne's

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foe turn out to be more friendly in the future? There are good reasons

:26:09.:26:12.

to think that the gas and even perhaps the oil price may well fall.

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That's good news for customers, but if we're pushing out of those areas,

:26:16.:26:20.

particularly out of gas, into a crash course on wind, given the

:26:20.:26:29.

cost of that wind, the bills are going to go up a lot. But wouldn't

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dashing back into gas mean abandoning our climate change

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goals? Not according to accountancy firm KPMG, who explained in a

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report out this week that by moving rapidly from coal to gas and

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growing wind more slowly, we could hit our carbon targets that save

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the public �34 billion, saving the world for less. We need to get into

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a position where we can look consumers in the eye and say we

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have spent the least amount of money possible to give you power

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whilst still doing the things we need to do for the benefit of all

:27:08.:27:11.

around carbon and around renewables targets, and I think our research

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would indicate that there is a gap there, that we could spend less

:27:14.:27:17.

money. Therefore, I'm not sure we could look the consumers in the eye

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right now and honestly say we're spending the least amounts we need

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to possible. But the man orchestrating the

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gamble isn't blinking. Government policy overall taking the low

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carbon and energy-saving policy will have a lowering effect on

:27:31.:27:37.

bills. Our bills may go up because of world market prices, because of

:27:37.:27:41.

the need for investment and all the rest of it, but the overall effect

:27:41.:27:44.

of Government policy would be to lower bills compared with what

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would happen otherwise. In my view, the Government are storing up

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tremendous problems for themselves unless they are entirely open,

:27:51.:27:53.

entirely honest with consumers about what this is costing today

:27:53.:27:59.

and what it will be costing in five, ten and 20 years' time cos it seems

:27:59.:28:03.

to me that the consumers will not pay these higher bills unless they

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fully understand what's being spent, why it's being spent.

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Government's next chance to be straight with bill payers like

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Paula McCrudden and the boaty family comes this month in the

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energy statement which includes a forecast of future bills. How do

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the policymakers think that in sitting around in a house where

:28:29.:28:34.

you're spending 10% of your income on gas and electricity to heat your

:28:34.:28:38.

house that you're going to be ablepy with another X per cent on

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