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With energy bills biting harder than ever, is the Government's | :00:10. | :00:15. | |
great energy gamble working? you're spending 10% of your | :00:15. | :00:18. | |
disposable income and someone slaps on another 20% price increase, what | :00:18. | :00:23. | |
do you do? You can't invent the money. What fate awaits the | :00:23. | :00:27. | |
increasing number of people already struggling to keep the cold at bay? | :00:27. | :00:32. | |
I'm really scared about this coming winter. Because, if it is really | :00:32. | :00:39. | |
cold, what do we do? Do we put the heating on and not eat properly? | :00:39. | :00:41. | |
Ministers blame forces beyond their control profit hungry companies and | :00:41. | :00:46. | |
world gas prices. So why is the government so hooked on these when | :00:46. | :00:54. | |
they cost so much money? And we uncover the strange tale of how | :00:54. | :01:01. | |
Tony Blair saddled us with a very hefty bill. Perhaps he saw it as an | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
important big gesture, but maybe lost track of the details such as | :01:05. | :01:08. | |
the tens of billions of pounds that this was going to cost the UK | :01:08. | :01:16. | |
consumers. Tonight - what's really fuelling your bill policy or | :01:16. | :01:26. | |
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We are power hungry, day and night we depend on energy to feed our | :01:41. | :01:50. | |
economy and run our homes. But the bill for that vital spark is higher | :01:50. | :02:00. | |
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than ever, on average �1,345 per So is this price hike a painful | :02:10. | :02:17. | |
blip or the start of an agonizing trend? To answer we'll need to | :02:17. | :02:19. | |
reach behind the switch to understand the mechanics of the | :02:19. | :02:29. | |
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energy business and how politicians But first, it's getting chilly in | :02:32. | :02:42. | |
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Paula McCrudden lights the fire as usual, but it brings her little | :02:46. | :02:56. | |
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comfort. But just give me a feeling a few years back, how much did you | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
worry about energy bills? I didn't. I honestly didn't give it a second | :03:01. | :03:04. | |
thought. The bill used to come, pay it. Not a problem, you know. Those | :03:05. | :03:08. | |
days have gone forever. It's a fear that you're going to get into | :03:08. | :03:11. | |
trouble. You either have your heating on, and cut way back on the | :03:11. | :03:14. | |
food, which we've already cut back on, or you don't have the heating | :03:14. | :03:21. | |
on, and have a little bit extra for food. Paula is officially in fuel | :03:21. | :03:26. | |
poverty, as more than 10% of her income is spent on fuel. She's one | :03:26. | :03:29. | |
of over 6 million households in the same predicament the number rising | :03:29. | :03:37. | |
daily. I mean what I do is, if I can cook two things in the oven, | :03:37. | :03:40. | |
say today's dinner say it's a pie or something, and a stew, put them | :03:40. | :03:47. | |
in at the same time so I don't have to put the oven on again tomorrow. | :03:47. | :03:51. | |
You have to think of all sorts of ways to, you know, just to sort of | :03:51. | :03:54. | |
cut back. Paula tries hard to reduce her bills. Monitoring her | :03:54. | :03:56. | |
electricity usage online, she's shopped around for the best deals | :03:56. | :03:59. | |
and even made her home energy efficient. But still, things have | :03:59. | :04:06. | |
got so bad she's even changing her winter wardrobe. So what have we | :04:06. | :04:11. | |
got here? This is my winter wear. This is my little furry boots that | :04:11. | :04:15. | |
I wear round the house to keep me warm. What I call my snugly, which | :04:15. | :04:21. | |
you sort of put on. And it leaves your arms free, it wraps around you | :04:21. | :04:31. | |
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basically. It's quite warm. Not the highest of fashion! No, no, not | :04:31. | :04:35. | |
really. But essential in your view? Yes, yeah, I'd rather look silly | :04:35. | :04:40. | |
than get cold, yeah. Yeah. While we may shiver, parts of the | :04:40. | :04:47. | |
economy quake in fear at high energy prices. This is Steelite, | :04:47. | :04:53. | |
one of the few surviving potteries in Stoke. They make robust crockery | :04:53. | :05:00. | |
for hotels and cruise liners, most of them abroad. Well the major | :05:00. | :05:02. | |
consumer of energy is kilns. Obviously you need to fire the | :05:02. | :05:06. | |
kilns at high temperatures in order to form them into the vast array | :05:06. | :05:12. | |
that you can see around here. closely do you keep an eye on the | :05:12. | :05:14. | |
cost of energy? This business checks our energy prices every | :05:14. | :05:17. | |
single morning without fail. Because it's so important. It's a | :05:17. | :05:21. | |
huge cost to the company. It's over �2.5 million. We need to keep a | :05:21. | :05:25. | |
very close eye on it. But their success in creating both exports | :05:25. | :05:31. | |
and jobs could be shattered by the fuel bill. This industry, this city, | :05:31. | :05:35. | |
has lost lots of companies over the years. They continue to go. And | :05:35. | :05:39. | |
unless the conditions are right, that will continue to happen. | :05:39. | :05:41. | |
government appears keen to deflect anger over price rises towards | :05:41. | :05:51. | |
energy companies. It's simply not fair that big energy companies can | :05:51. | :05:58. | |
push their prices up for the vast majority of their consumers. We are | :05:58. | :06:00. | |
making them be competitive. They're permanently being watched to make | :06:00. | :06:07. | |
sure it is a competitive market. But their policy actions commit us | :06:07. | :06:11. | |
to a hefty price tag - a massive switchover to homegrown low carbon | :06:11. | :06:21. | |
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energy, more protected from global fuel price swings. But it's a | :06:25. | :06:28. | |
gamble playing with new technology, international markets and our home | :06:28. | :06:34. | |
energy habits. One thing is for certain. Up front it's perilously | :06:34. | :06:44. | |
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expensive. And it's racking up our bills. At stake is �200 billion | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
over our money, which will be spent to revolutionise the way we power | :06:52. | :06:59. | |
our lives. Primarily, less dirty coal and more clean wind. If we | :06:59. | :07:05. | |
spin forward to 2020, the government wants electricity from | :07:05. | :07:15. | |
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renewables to jump from seven-30% of output. But here is the problem. | :07:16. | :07:22. | |
The traditional power generators, which are being cut back, are cheap, | :07:22. | :07:27. | |
costing �78 per megawatt hour to feed into the grid, whereas | :07:27. | :07:33. | |
electricity from new sources like offshore wind cost �170, more than | :07:33. | :07:42. | |
double that amount. Who will have to find the money? We will. Much of | :07:42. | :07:47. | |
it spent around the coast on hardware at sea on jobs on the land, | :07:47. | :07:52. | |
so I went to Grimsby with Sarjit Sambi from Centrica, the UK's | :07:52. | :08:00. | |
biggest energy generator. Offshore generation has two big advantages - | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
the wind blows stronger, and local objections are weaker because | :08:04. | :08:12. | |
nobody lives there. Centrica has these two wind farms off the | :08:12. | :08:22. | |
Lincolnshire coast and they are not small. Two wind farms combined | :08:22. | :08:32. | |
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cover an area of around 50 square, kilometres. A each turbines is | :08:33. | :08:40. | |
about 130 metres from sea-level to the top. To put that into | :08:40. | :08:45. | |
perspective, the London Eye is about 120 metres so they would | :08:45. | :08:50. | |
overshadow that somewhat. Offshore wind is pretty unique in the | :08:50. | :08:55. | |
renewables family in the UK. It is a technology where you can see how | :08:55. | :08:59. | |
you can venture near the cost down over time. It takes advantage of | :08:59. | :09:04. | |
our very significant skills and capabilities in terms of Offshore | :09:04. | :09:08. | |
Engineering, and we also have a great natural resource around the | :09:08. | :09:13. | |
UK are ales that we can develop. Britain leads the world in offshore | :09:13. | :09:18. | |
wind. Building turbines is pricey, wind is free, but there is still | :09:18. | :09:25. | |
maintenance. It is eye-watering the expensive, and against government | :09:25. | :09:28. | |
forecasts that those costs will fall, the cost of offshore wind | :09:28. | :09:34. | |
keeps going up. A even the former government chief scientific adviser | :09:34. | :09:43. | |
has concerns. Offshore wind is extraordinarily expensive and I | :09:43. | :09:49. | |
would say we need to move cautiously down that route. There | :09:49. | :09:53. | |
are days in the winter across the British Isles when there is | :09:53. | :09:59. | |
effectively no wind to drive the turbines, so they always have to be | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
duplicated by gas-fired turbines which can be switched on and off to | :10:02. | :10:07. | |
cover these days of stillness. Alongside existing turbines here, | :10:07. | :10:12. | |
you can see some new Stubbs growing out of the sea and that is where | :10:13. | :10:17. | |
the new blades will be. To give an idea of the government's ambition, | :10:17. | :10:26. | |
they will need four new feels like this each year for 10 years to hit | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
their target. To make this happen, they need the energy companies. | :10:31. | :10:37. | |
Before, we had a very simple concept of producing energy at the | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
lowest cost. Today, we have multiple objectives. We need to | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
maintain security of supply, we need to reduce carbon emissions. | :10:47. | :10:52. | |
Ultimately, the �200 billion of investment will feed through to | :10:52. | :10:57. | |
consumer bills. But could the energy industry pay more? The | :10:57. | :11:01. | |
regulator Ofgem recently reported rising profit margins across the | :11:02. | :11:07. | |
sector. Centrica made nearly �1.3 billion in the first half of this | :11:07. | :11:12. | |
year. On top of that the Energy Secretary has accused the big six | :11:12. | :11:17. | |
generators of predatory pricing. What do you make of Chris Huhne's | :11:17. | :11:23. | |
accusations of predatory pricing? That is something which can't be | :11:23. | :11:30. | |
substantiated. We don't do it. Since 2001, 17 inquiries all giving | :11:30. | :11:35. | |
the UK energy industry a clean bill of health. The government knows | :11:35. | :11:39. | |
wind technology will stall unless energy companies can make good | :11:39. | :11:44. | |
money, so Chris Huhne has a difficult balancing act. Talking | :11:44. | :11:48. | |
tough for the public, but tender for the boardroom. I will be on the | :11:48. | :11:54. | |
side of the consumer, making sure there is no excess profit in there. | :11:54. | :11:58. | |
They are not the Salvation Army, they obviously have to make a | :11:58. | :12:06. | |
respectable return in a free market. So, where might bills be in the | :12:06. | :12:12. | |
next few years? Chris Huhne would get long odds on his department's | :12:12. | :12:15. | |
prediction that fuel payments could drop by the end of the decade. In | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
fact, they are on their Rome. Predictions are fogged by unknowns, | :12:21. | :12:27. | |
but the most recent forecast says your combined gas and electricity | :12:27. | :12:34. | |
bill in 2020 will be �1,239, �100 lower than today. Citigroup thinks | :12:34. | :12:41. | |
that total could be up to 50% higher, reaching �2,000. Research | :12:41. | :12:46. | |
by a uSwitch.com suggests we will be paying an average of �3,202 by | :12:46. | :12:54. | |
2020, nearly tripling your current bill. Whatever the precise level of | :12:54. | :12:58. | |
your future bills, one reason for there acceleration skyward is | :12:58. | :13:04. | |
fairly straightforward. Sadly greener energy is not cheap energy | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
and we are paying for the scientist' demands and the | :13:09. | :13:14. | |
politicians'' promises on climate change. One promise in particular | :13:14. | :13:18. | |
lies behind the Windrush, which some believed was a multi-million | :13:18. | :13:24. | |
pound gaffe. It was taken in 2007 by Tony Blair in Brussels, three | :13:24. | :13:33. | |
months before he stood down. This was the decision made at a meeting | :13:33. | :13:38. | |
of the heads of state of the European Union in Brussels. Tony | :13:38. | :13:44. | |
Blair was a very keen advocate of action for climate change. On the | :13:44. | :13:48. | |
table was Britain's commitment to renewable power by 2020. A senior | :13:49. | :13:53. | |
civil servant we have spoken to says Tony Blair was advised that | :13:54. | :13:57. | |
15% of renewable electricity was the maximum we could manage, but he | :13:57. | :14:01. | |
emerged having signed a radically different promise, virtually | :14:01. | :14:05. | |
tripling the challenge by agreeing to 15% of all energy being | :14:05. | :14:11. | |
renewable. Now including heating for homes and factories, fuel for | :14:12. | :14:15. | |
vehicles on top of electricity. In short, everything that used his | :14:15. | :14:21. | |
power. The expectation before we went into the meeting that day was | :14:21. | :14:28. | |
that we would be aiming for 15% not on energy but on electricity on the | :14:28. | :14:33. | |
grid. My role in the Treasury was to try to bear down on the cost of | :14:33. | :14:39. | |
energy policies, both for the taxpayer and consumer. Suddenly the | :14:39. | :14:45. | |
game seemed to change. For lino is there was a meeting that carried on | :14:45. | :14:49. | |
until 3 o'clock in the morning, very tired people in the meeting, | :14:49. | :14:53. | |
and perhaps there was an argument about whether we should be | :14:53. | :14:58. | |
electricity on the grid or total electricity. When the official we | :14:58. | :15:02. | |
have spoken to heard Tony Blair had committed to the higher energy | :15:02. | :15:12. | |
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Perhaps he saw it as an important big gesture, but maybe lost track | :15:14. | :15:18. | |
of the details such as the tens of billions of pounds that this was | :15:18. | :15:21. | |
going to cost the UK consumers. you think it's possible that this | :15:21. | :15:26. | |
was you would actually a gaffe? could be. It could have been? But | :15:26. | :15:31. | |
was it a bad gaffe? At the time for me it was a surprise. Was it a good | :15:31. | :15:35. | |
target? It may well have been a good target. Tony Blair's office | :15:35. | :15:41. | |
told us it wasn't a gaffe, but a decision to protect the environment | :15:41. | :15:48. | |
and help energy security. Mistake or master stroke, it's now part of | :15:48. | :15:53. | |
a pricy target. Our estimate of how much needs to be spent to hit the | :15:53. | :15:59. | |
target is about �25 billion a year. That is one and a third Crossrails | :15:59. | :16:06. | |
a year, two-and-a-half Olympic Games a year, 2.5 times the budget | :16:06. | :16:12. | |
of NASA. In fact, we could say goodbye to wind mills and launch | :16:12. | :16:19. | |
our own Mars mission if we wanted to for the same amount of money. | :16:19. | :16:25. | |
Back on earth, here's what passes for Mission Control - in the quest | :16:25. | :16:29. | |
to rewire Britain. Well, the information on this screen is | :16:29. | :16:32. | |
becoming increasingly important. It shows the weather and particularly | :16:32. | :16:37. | |
the wind speed across the country. However, it's generated, National | :16:37. | :16:42. | |
Grid's job is to make sure there's always power behind the switch. And | :16:42. | :16:46. | |
this is the second big element fuelling your rising electricity | :16:46. | :16:52. | |
bill - �17 billion to wire up the changing network. Alan Smart from | :16:52. | :17:00. | |
National Grid is paid to make sure our tellies, torst and kettles keep | :17:00. | :17:03. | |
running. For a conventional generator, you know when it's going | :17:03. | :17:08. | |
to start generating. You know how quickly it's going to increase its | :17:08. | :17:12. | |
output. With wind, it's when the wind arrives, and it's when the | :17:12. | :17:19. | |
wind changes, and it's when the wind goes away. And there's another | :17:19. | :17:23. | |
problem with new forms of power - geography. Traditionally, the power | :17:23. | :17:27. | |
stations have been in the centre of the country. New power stations, | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
new nuclear power stations around the coast, wind farms offshore - | :17:31. | :17:36. | |
all of that power is coming at the edge of the power system. We've got | :17:36. | :17:43. | |
to transport that power reliably to the centres of demand. That means | :17:43. | :17:50. | |
more of these - the National Grid is planning 214 miles of pylons | :17:50. | :17:54. | |
spread through many parts of the country from Suffolk to Cumbria. | :17:54. | :17:58. | |
Down in the Somerset levels, the steel giants will stride through an | :17:58. | :18:05. | |
area of outstanding natural beauty. The new nuclear reactor at Hinkley | :18:05. | :18:14. | |
Point is pointless without connection to the grid. | :18:14. | :18:18. | |
And this consequence of our energy revolution is not only expensive, | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
but ugly, triggering a fierce back lack. You care about the | :18:21. | :18:25. | |
environment. You care about the countryside, and you care about the | :18:25. | :18:28. | |
next generation, but we don't want to leave them a landscape that is | :18:28. | :18:36. | |
spoiled by pylons. APPLAUSE | :18:36. | :18:40. | |
These protesters, like many communities, facing new pylon runs, | :18:40. | :18:45. | |
want the cables underground. In the end, this sounds like a | :18:46. | :18:50. | |
classic "You don't want this in your view." It couldn't be more not | :18:50. | :18:54. | |
in my backyard. No, this is a totally national issue. This is | :18:54. | :18:59. | |
coming across the whole of the country. What we want to do is what | :18:59. | :19:03. | |
is right in the 21st century. And by right you mean invisible, in | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
effect, don't you? Yeah, put them out of sight. We do that in our | :19:07. | :19:13. | |
water mains and our gas mains, why not with electricity? National Grid | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
describe their position on burying the cables as neutral, and they're | :19:17. | :19:20. | |
still consulting with the local community, but they want people to | :19:20. | :19:28. | |
be aware that undergrounding will cost us all. For this power line | :19:28. | :19:33. | |
through Somerset, to underground in its entirety, would cost around a | :19:33. | :19:37. | |
pound for every domestic consumer's bill for the next 40 years. You're | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
talking about �100 million as opposed to a billion underground, | :19:41. | :19:46. | |
billions - a lot of money. So now we have two steps to higher bills, | :19:46. | :19:51. | |
pricy green energy, costly cables and here's a third. A quarter of | :19:51. | :19:56. | |
our power stations are not old, they need replacing, including the | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
nuclear plant at Hinckley point. How far beneath my feet is the | :20:01. | :20:07. | |
actual hot stuff? We're about ten to 15 metres beneath here, so | :20:07. | :20:11. | |
that's where the nuclear reaction is taking place. It's a strange mix | :20:11. | :20:15. | |
of the high-tech and quite old, isn't it? You look around and see | :20:15. | :20:19. | |
the telephones and things that look like they're from a period drama. | :20:19. | :20:24. | |
But over the last 35 years, the important nuclear safety relate | :20:24. | :20:28. | |
equipment has been constantly refurbished. Nuclear power carries | :20:29. | :20:38. | |
a set of unique risks. It carries an extraordinarily high tion risk, | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
a high safety risk as we've just witnessed in Fukishima, so if you | :20:43. | :20:47. | |
have an accident due to an earthquake and tsunami in Japan, | :20:47. | :20:51. | |
and in Germany, they decided to instantly close a whole set of | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
nuclear power stations. That means it's very difficult to price that | :20:55. | :20:59. | |
risk, and therefore very difficult for investers to get involved. | :21:00. | :21:04. | |
despite these high potential costs and existing controversy, nuclear | :21:04. | :21:09. | |
power is gaining support even from the green wing - if grudgingly. | :21:09. | :21:14. | |
don't actually like nuclear power, and I would much rather we didn't | :21:14. | :21:18. | |
have to have nuclear power. But the problem is that I like the | :21:18. | :21:21. | |
alternatives even less, and it's become clear to me that as much as | :21:21. | :21:25. | |
I dislike nuclear power, if we don't replace our nuclear power | :21:25. | :21:29. | |
stations, we'll have no option but to invest in more fossil fuel. | :21:29. | :21:33. | |
Government is proposing a guaranteed price for nuclear. It's | :21:33. | :21:38. | |
a sweetener to encourage building, so they meet their carbon-cutting | :21:38. | :21:42. | |
targets. We'll pay for the sugar, but do we know that? The Government | :21:42. | :21:48. | |
can't be passive about any of this. If it's going to invest heavily in | :21:48. | :21:55. | |
new wind, it's going to have to make the case for it. If it's going | :21:55. | :21:58. | |
to invest heavily in nuclear, it's going to have to make the political | :21:58. | :22:03. | |
case for it. It can't pretend that it can just drift along and expect | :22:03. | :22:06. | |
people to accept stuff when they're not being told why it's a good idea | :22:06. | :22:11. | |
to accept it. So is Government in denial about their heavy burden on | :22:11. | :22:14. | |
their policies will put on consumers? You are reducing the | :22:14. | :22:17. | |
production of the cheaper sources of electricity and Government | :22:17. | :22:20. | |
policy is going to increase production from the more expensive. | :22:20. | :22:26. | |
That's a fact, isn't it? It's not. Well, it is a fact. The figures are | :22:26. | :22:30. | |
in your report. It's not a fact because the key point is it's not | :22:30. | :22:34. | |
just now that we have to worry about. When you make investments in | :22:34. | :22:38. | |
energy, you're making invest in thes for ten, for 20, for 30 years. | :22:38. | :22:44. | |
What I can say and give the assurance is at any given point the | :22:44. | :22:50. | |
total effect of Government's policy including the energy savings | :22:50. | :22:55. | |
reduction is going to be able to make sure bills are lower than they | :22:55. | :23:03. | |
otherwise would be. That's a promise? Overall it's an assurance | :23:03. | :23:08. | |
that we can, we can. So on that vexed issue of future energy bills, | :23:08. | :23:13. | |
let's look at what we've been dealt. Three of a kind - the high cost of | :23:13. | :23:18. | |
low carbon, expensive story station renewal and pricy pylon runs to | :23:18. | :23:23. | |
hook them up. But Chris Huhne says it's also dealing with trump cards | :23:23. | :23:26. | |
- first those energy saving policies to help us cut the bill. | :23:26. | :23:30. | |
And second, protection from soaring global energy prices. But is it | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
really going to make energy affordable? There's room for most | :23:34. | :23:38. | |
homes to save energy and money, but enough to offset price hikes? This | :23:38. | :23:42. | |
is the Boaty family from St Albans. I have started to become the grumpy | :23:42. | :23:45. | |
old man. I go around turning the lights off and everything and | :23:45. | :23:48. | |
having a goo at the children for leaving things on and sort of | :23:48. | :23:52. | |
coming back and saying, you know, the house is lit up like... A | :23:52. | :23:56. | |
Christmas tree. In fact, Paul's become so switched-on about | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
minimising his heating bill, he's taken fuelling the house into his | :23:59. | :24:04. | |
own hands. We take? Dog for a walk in the woods. We pick up suitable | :24:04. | :24:09. | |
pieces of wood lying down, bring it back, and we use it to burn in the | :24:09. | :24:13. | |
winter. This would be a nice piece to have. It saves money. It's free. | :24:13. | :24:20. | |
It's lying in the woods. Yeah, it's just here lying around. At home | :24:20. | :24:27. | |
alongside the woodpile, they have to lagged the loft, double glazed | :24:27. | :24:32. | |
and dwell in the sofa sleeping bags but even that's not enough. How are | :24:32. | :24:37. | |
you finding paying your bill, your energy bills? I think we're finding | :24:37. | :24:40. | |
it is becoming increasingly a struggle, a concern. I think the | :24:40. | :24:44. | |
days of cheap energy are over, and the sooner everybody realises that, | :24:44. | :24:50. | |
and we start planning for it, the better. Stealing ashore under the | :24:50. | :24:54. | |
cover of darkness is the other threat Chris Huhne is pledging to | :24:54. | :24:59. | |
fight - pricy foreign gas. He says we'll need less if we grow our own | :24:59. | :25:09. | |
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green power. One challenge is to get us in a | :25:09. | :25:13. | |
position where we're less vulnerable to the sort of big price | :25:13. | :25:17. | |
increases for oil and gas that we've seen over the last year. If | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
we can get to a situation where we're using less energy and the | :25:21. | :25:26. | |
energy that we are using is coming from renewable and nuclear sources | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
rather than just from fossil fuels, then we're going to be less | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
vulnerable to that sort of buffeting. | :25:34. | :25:39. | |
On this tanker is liquefied natural gas from Qatar. Now the ship is | :25:39. | :25:42. | |
safely docked, they can begin piping off the gas, which at this | :25:42. | :25:47. | |
stage is still a super-cooled liquid actually flowing through | :25:47. | :25:51. | |
these pipes. It will take about 24 hours to discharge the whole vessel | :25:51. | :25:56. | |
before the gas flows off down those pipes, and there's enough in here | :25:56. | :26:04. | |
to heat nearly five million homes for a week. But could Chris Huhne's | :26:04. | :26:08. | |
foe turn out to be more friendly in the future? There are good reasons | :26:09. | :26:12. | |
to think that the gas and even perhaps the oil price may well fall. | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
That's good news for customers, but if we're pushing out of those areas, | :26:16. | :26:20. | |
particularly out of gas, into a crash course on wind, given the | :26:20. | :26:29. | |
cost of that wind, the bills are going to go up a lot. But wouldn't | :26:30. | :26:35. | |
dashing back into gas mean abandoning our climate change | :26:35. | :26:42. | |
goals? Not according to accountancy firm KPMG, who explained in a | :26:42. | :26:45. | |
report out this week that by moving rapidly from coal to gas and | :26:45. | :26:51. | |
growing wind more slowly, we could hit our carbon targets that save | :26:51. | :26:58. | |
the public �34 billion, saving the world for less. We need to get into | :26:58. | :27:01. | |
a position where we can look consumers in the eye and say we | :27:01. | :27:04. | |
have spent the least amount of money possible to give you power | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
whilst still doing the things we need to do for the benefit of all | :27:08. | :27:11. | |
around carbon and around renewables targets, and I think our research | :27:11. | :27:14. | |
would indicate that there is a gap there, that we could spend less | :27:14. | :27:17. | |
money. Therefore, I'm not sure we could look the consumers in the eye | :27:18. | :27:22. | |
right now and honestly say we're spending the least amounts we need | :27:22. | :27:25. | |
to possible. But the man orchestrating the | :27:25. | :27:28. | |
gamble isn't blinking. Government policy overall taking the low | :27:28. | :27:31. | |
carbon and energy-saving policy will have a lowering effect on | :27:31. | :27:37. | |
bills. Our bills may go up because of world market prices, because of | :27:37. | :27:41. | |
the need for investment and all the rest of it, but the overall effect | :27:41. | :27:44. | |
of Government policy would be to lower bills compared with what | :27:44. | :27:47. | |
would happen otherwise. In my view, the Government are storing up | :27:47. | :27:51. | |
tremendous problems for themselves unless they are entirely open, | :27:51. | :27:53. | |
entirely honest with consumers about what this is costing today | :27:53. | :27:59. | |
and what it will be costing in five, ten and 20 years' time cos it seems | :27:59. | :28:03. | |
to me that the consumers will not pay these higher bills unless they | :28:03. | :28:06. | |
fully understand what's being spent, why it's being spent. | :28:06. | :28:13. | |
Government's next chance to be straight with bill payers like | :28:13. | :28:18. | |
Paula McCrudden and the boaty family comes this month in the | :28:18. | :28:25. | |
energy statement which includes a forecast of future bills. How do | :28:25. | :28:29. | |
the policymakers think that in sitting around in a house where | :28:29. | :28:34. | |
you're spending 10% of your income on gas and electricity to heat your | :28:34. | :28:38. | |
house that you're going to be ablepy with another X per cent on | :28:38. | :28:44. |