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Washington is about to host the biggest fundraiser the world has | :00:00. | :00:10. | |
ever seen. World leaders are gathering here to try to raise $15 | :00:11. | :00:17. | |
billion to fight world disease. It's the celebrity-backed way to tackle | :00:18. | :00:20. | |
disease in the developing world. It's called the Global Fund. No-one | :00:21. | :00:26. | |
will be denied these life-saving treatments. And we're already signed | :00:27. | :00:31. | |
up. At a time of cuts, the UK's just pledged another ?1 billion. We will | :00:32. | :00:36. | |
be saving a life every three minutes for the next three years. But is the | :00:37. | :00:43. | |
Global Fund doing enough to protect our aid money? A proportion of every | :00:44. | :00:47. | |
tax dollar that they give can also be lost to fraud and corruption. The | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
main thing is to find the fraud. Panorama has evidence of delayed | :00:52. | :00:54. | |
reports and unpublished allegations of corruption. That is a cover-up, | :00:55. | :01:02. | |
the report has been suppressed. And we confront one organisation that | :01:03. | :01:07. | |
benefitted. Are you lying to me? I'm not lying. Well, why not tell the | :01:08. | :01:12. | |
truth, that it's in the report? It's not in the report. | :01:13. | :01:30. | |
Our aid money can change lives. Here in northern Cambodia, people are | :01:31. | :01:43. | |
being saved. The mosquitoes carry a deadly type of malaria. Hundreds | :01:44. | :01:45. | |
used to die. This matters because malaria is a | :01:46. | :02:06. | |
very real threat here. This region has the worst record for malaria | :02:07. | :02:08. | |
cases in Cambodia. Now, death rates are falling because | :02:09. | :02:15. | |
of a simple solution. Anti-mosquito Neds that we have | :02:16. | :02:27. | |
helped pay for have given people protection. This net is extremely | :02:28. | :02:38. | |
beneficial. For us, it helps us from contracting malaria. It is not just | :02:39. | :02:41. | |
stopping mosquitoes, it's for all other insects, like lice. And it's | :02:42. | :02:48. | |
working. Last year, nobody was killed by Malaria in these hills. | :02:49. | :02:53. | |
Now, much of the money that's spent here on the ground saving lives | :02:54. | :02:57. | |
comes from you and me, the UK taxpayer. But how it's actually | :02:58. | :03:01. | |
spent is decided by another organisation. A multi-billion-pound | :03:02. | :03:09. | |
operation called the Global Fund. Action! You can't argue about this | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
result. This result is measurable in millions of lives. We must all be | :03:14. | :03:18. | |
determined to finish the race. As you can see from this slick video, | :03:19. | :03:21. | |
the Global Fund has some high-profile supporters. It's an aid | :03:22. | :03:24. | |
organisation that's already raised $28 billion from governments and | :03:25. | :03:26. | |
private donors like Microsoft founder Bill Gates and the rock star | :03:27. | :03:28. | |
Bono. The money is used to tackle three | :03:29. | :03:37. | |
big killer diseases - AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis. More and more | :03:38. | :03:44. | |
people reach the point in their disease where they need these drugs. | :03:45. | :03:53. | |
The results speak for themselves in Cambodia. I mean, it has been | :03:54. | :03:57. | |
miraculous. I mean, you look at the numbers in the drop of TB in the | :03:58. | :04:01. | |
country, the drop in the cases of malaria. You look at HIV. And that | :04:02. | :04:05. | |
is all direct linked to Global Fund supporting these programmes. | :04:06. | :04:17. | |
The UK Government has already given more than ?1 billion to the Global | :04:18. | :04:24. | |
Fund. Two months ago, the Government announced it was giving ?1 billion | :04:25. | :04:27. | |
more, part of an aid budget ring-fenced from other spending | :04:28. | :04:33. | |
cuts. It makes us the world's second-biggest donor. | :04:34. | :04:42. | |
We will be saving a life every three minutes for the next three years. | :04:43. | :04:48. | |
Which is a massive, massive amount of people's lives. But it's not just | :04:49. | :04:53. | |
the lives saved. It's also the diseases prevented that's equally | :04:54. | :04:54. | |
important. Ten years in. 7.7 million people are alive because | :04:55. | :05:10. | |
of the Global Fund. That was two years ago. The Global Fund now claim | :05:11. | :05:12. | |
even more lives saved, 8.7 million. Let's be clear, millions have been | :05:13. | :05:25. | |
saved, and that's incredible. But the detail matters when you're | :05:26. | :05:27. | |
asking donors for billions of pounds. Even some of those who | :05:28. | :05:31. | |
support the Fund question the figures. I think 8.7 million lives | :05:32. | :05:37. | |
does represent a degree of spin. It's the Global Fund trying to make | :05:38. | :05:41. | |
itself look good in the eyes of donors. I think a more accurate | :05:42. | :05:45. | |
figure of the number of lives saved by the Global Fund alone might be | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
between four to five million lives saved, as opposed to 8.7 million | :05:49. | :05:50. | |
lives saved. We believe, and we are told, that | :05:51. | :06:02. | |
our numbers are actually conservative. We work with the | :06:03. | :06:05. | |
leading health organisations in the world that run the calculations with | :06:06. | :06:08. | |
us, the WHO, UNAIDS, other global health organisations. They're the | :06:09. | :06:11. | |
gold standard. The numbers are important because | :06:12. | :06:20. | |
there's a lot invested in the Global Fund's system for handing out aid. | :06:21. | :06:25. | |
In a nutshell, our Government gets the Global Fund to do some of its | :06:26. | :06:31. | |
aid work. The idea was that the private sector would take on the | :06:32. | :06:35. | |
lead role in the whole programme for international development around the | :06:36. | :06:38. | |
world. And many of the different donors, including the UK Government | :06:39. | :06:40. | |
Department for International Development, followed that model. | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
Many people think it is the best way. The Global Fund lets local | :06:47. | :06:49. | |
organisations manage the projects and the cash. It's less | :06:50. | :06:52. | |
bureaucratic, but it comes with risks. It's not the Global Fund | :06:53. | :06:58. | |
going out itself with its own personnel and doing things to a | :06:59. | :07:02. | |
country. It's giving the money so the country can do it itself. And | :07:03. | :07:07. | |
there is, almost by definition, greater risk in that. The risk, and | :07:08. | :07:12. | |
it can happen anywhere, is corruption. If you simply hand over | :07:13. | :07:17. | |
the cash to local governments and local organisations, then there's a | :07:18. | :07:20. | |
chance that the money won't reach the people it's supposed to help. | :07:21. | :07:27. | |
Here in Cambodia, over the last ten years the Global Fund has given | :07:28. | :07:35. | |
grants of more than $330 million. We know it's made a difference in | :07:36. | :07:38. | |
fighting those key three diseases, but there's also been corruption. | :07:39. | :07:45. | |
The Global Fund came here to do an in-depth investigation in 2011. A | :07:46. | :07:50. | |
year ago, it said its report would be out in the coming weeks. When we | :07:51. | :07:55. | |
were in Cambodia two months ago, the report still hadn't been published. | :07:56. | :08:02. | |
This obviously is not in the interest of the programmes. The | :08:03. | :08:04. | |
development partners in Cambodia are not happy with it. I think even the | :08:05. | :08:10. | |
Global Fund is not happy with it, that this report has been pending | :08:11. | :08:15. | |
for so long. We were leaked a copy of the unpublished investigation | :08:16. | :08:19. | |
report from inside the Global Fund. It is an uncomfortable read for | :08:20. | :08:24. | |
donors, including UK taxpayers. For starters, it says deals worth $20 | :08:25. | :08:27. | |
million for mosquito Neds were won through improper commissions. The | :08:28. | :08:35. | |
detail in this report is extraordinary. It says that | :08:36. | :08:38. | |
officials at the National Malaria Centre saw commissions, which are | :08:39. | :08:40. | |
effectively kickbacks and bribes, as a compulsory component of the | :08:41. | :08:48. | |
procurement process. And that it was a requirement imposed by senior | :08:49. | :08:49. | |
government officials. Two senior officials are said to | :08:50. | :09:08. | |
have taken more than half a million dollars in improper commissions. | :09:09. | :09:15. | |
With AIDS funding, there was a similar story. An official issuing | :09:16. | :09:19. | |
contracts admitted taking a 15% commission on every deal. | :09:20. | :09:26. | |
Tia Phalla is chair of the group that oversees Global Fund spending | :09:27. | :09:34. | |
in Cambodia. In some of the HIV programmes, we understand that it | :09:35. | :09:40. | |
was effectively a 15% rate. I have no information about that. But | :09:41. | :09:44. | |
doesn't that make you very nervous? That's in the area that you look | :09:45. | :09:48. | |
after. And it's essentially a 15% rate. You've gone very quiet, that | :09:49. | :09:55. | |
seems to me to be quite shocking. No, no, no, I'm not shocking. You | :09:56. | :09:58. | |
know, the problem is, like, you know, how can you come with some | :09:59. | :10:02. | |
picture that I don't know you know? You must have seen it in the report. | :10:03. | :10:10. | |
Sir? The problem, as you know, as we talked from the beginning, is that | :10:11. | :10:13. | |
needs to be confirmed, that needs to be confirmed. | :10:14. | :10:22. | |
The same leaked, unpublished report also said another organisation has | :10:23. | :10:25. | |
questions to answer. It's a Cambodian health organisation | :10:26. | :10:38. | |
called MEDiCAM. Investigators say what they found here was evidence of | :10:39. | :10:41. | |
misuse or misappropriation of tens of thousands of dollars. And just so | :10:42. | :10:47. | |
we're clear, misappropriation means theft. This was what the report | :10:48. | :10:53. | |
said. Double billing of staff posts, double billing of computer equipment | :10:54. | :10:56. | |
and consultants who were charged to donors but were never used. Dr Sin | :10:57. | :11:04. | |
Sumony runs MEDiCAM. He seemed confident the allegations of | :11:05. | :11:07. | |
corruption wouldn't be in the final report. I understand that | :11:08. | :11:12. | |
investigators found evidence of serious corruption here at MEDiCAM. | :11:13. | :11:21. | |
No, no, no, no, no. Now, let's be clear, as I understand it, they're | :11:22. | :11:24. | |
quite specific, we're talking about people who are doing jobs that have | :11:25. | :11:28. | |
been charged to different people. Computers that were bought and then | :11:29. | :11:30. | |
double billed, accounts that weren't right. This is what the evidence is | :11:31. | :11:36. | |
on MEDiCAM, as I understand it. What do you say about that? No, nothing, | :11:37. | :11:41. | |
there is nothing of that. Investigators even found evidence of | :11:42. | :11:43. | |
apparently falsified documents on Dr Sumony's own office computer. That | :11:44. | :11:50. | |
the investigators found documents altered to make it look like $10,000 | :11:51. | :11:53. | |
had been spent, but in fact nothing had been spent. No, there is nothing | :11:54. | :12:02. | |
like that. Just to be clear, you were telling me definitively. Very | :12:03. | :12:05. | |
clear, very clear, definite. I think if you keep going like this | :12:06. | :12:08. | |
interview, I prefer that we stop right here. | :12:09. | :12:19. | |
You might think a report like this would be a disaster for the Global | :12:20. | :12:27. | |
Fund. In fact, this is at the heart of what the Fund is supposed to | :12:28. | :12:30. | |
offer. Transparency and zero tolerance of corruption. This | :12:31. | :12:34. | |
investigation was part of the Global Fund's promise to protect taxpayers' | :12:35. | :12:40. | |
money. And it was this man's job to find and expose fraud. John Parsons, | :12:41. | :12:44. | |
a former director at the UK's National Audit Office, was the | :12:45. | :12:51. | |
Global Fund's Inspector General. I think the Office of Inspector | :12:52. | :12:54. | |
General under Parsons had a reputation for going out to country | :12:55. | :12:57. | |
level, to the field, which is of course the best way to audit. You | :12:58. | :13:03. | |
can't audit organisations by sitting in headquarters. Mr Parsons seemed | :13:04. | :13:09. | |
to find a lot of fraud. In 2010, he published a series of reports. | :13:10. | :13:16. | |
Corruption became a global story. The Global Fund Against AIDS, | :13:17. | :13:19. | |
Tuberculosis and Malaria has announced new financial safeguards | :13:20. | :13:20. | |
following allegations of corruption. Rooting out corruption was exactly | :13:21. | :13:30. | |
what the fund's biggest donor wanted. The United States had | :13:31. | :13:34. | |
insisted on an independent Inspector General. But rather than donors | :13:35. | :13:38. | |
feeling reassured that fraud was being hunted down, all this honesty | :13:39. | :13:44. | |
caused panic. Donors including the European Union suspended payments. | :13:45. | :13:51. | |
People were scared to spend, you know, so three stories about fraud | :13:52. | :13:54. | |
basically turned off the money totally. It had a huge chilling | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
effect. So, I think it's been quite a negative experience and it hasn't | :14:00. | :14:02. | |
helped create incentives for more rigorous fraud prevention. A year | :14:03. | :14:08. | |
ago, the man whose investigations prompted the bad publicity was | :14:09. | :14:12. | |
fired. The Global Fund says John Parsons was sacked for | :14:13. | :14:16. | |
unsatisfactory performance. They said there had been three critical | :14:17. | :14:21. | |
reviews of his work. Bernard Rivers founded an organisation that | :14:22. | :14:27. | |
monitors the Global Fund. It is my understanding that Parsons was | :14:28. | :14:30. | |
sacked because he was not a good manager and not a good leader. I | :14:31. | :14:34. | |
dealt with him many times, I criticised him and his office in | :14:35. | :14:38. | |
print many times, I concluded when the board finally fired him that the | :14:39. | :14:40. | |
board had done the right thing. But, just a year before he was | :14:41. | :14:51. | |
fired, the work of Mr Parsons and his team had been praised by an | :14:52. | :14:54. | |
independent report, which called it... | :14:55. | :14:59. | |
The only risk-mitigation strategy within the Global Fund that has | :15:00. | :15:04. | |
worked. Panorama has discovered there was a lot more going on behind | :15:05. | :15:08. | |
the scenes. We've been told inspectors felt under pressure to | :15:09. | :15:09. | |
change the way they work. In public, the Fund was promising | :15:10. | :15:22. | |
zero tolerance on corruption. But, in private, we understand the | :15:23. | :15:25. | |
Inspector General was being put under pressure to water down his | :15:26. | :15:27. | |
reports. Documents from inside the Global | :15:28. | :15:36. | |
Fund show the inspectors felt they were being undermined. Saying they | :15:37. | :15:40. | |
were repeatedly told not to look so deep. One said... The organisation, | :15:41. | :15:47. | |
while parading transparency and openness, in practice views | :15:48. | :15:50. | |
disclosure of results as negative, harmful and unwanted. | :15:51. | :15:56. | |
Was there an attempt after 2011 to keep corruption quiet? No, no, quite | :15:57. | :16:05. | |
the opposite. It would actually be a silly reaction. Because the worst | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
thing you can do in this world today is try to hide things and be | :16:10. | :16:14. | |
non-transparent. You have got to pursue and be honest and open and | :16:15. | :16:18. | |
that's why we have pursued transparency and accountability so | :16:19. | :16:19. | |
much. The issue of independence came to a | :16:20. | :16:28. | |
head when the Inspector General stood his ground. The United States | :16:29. | :16:36. | |
only releases all the cash if it is satisfied that the inspector is | :16:37. | :16:39. | |
independent and free to do his job. John Parsons felt unable to say he | :16:40. | :16:44. | |
was. A whistle blowing organisation has investigated some of the claims | :16:45. | :16:51. | |
surrounding his dismissal. He was told that he should soften up | :16:52. | :16:55. | |
reports, that his site visits should be curtailed. He should be a little | :16:56. | :16:59. | |
bit more lenient in the conclusions that he drew and that was pressure | :17:00. | :17:05. | |
brought to bear on his office. Then he's asked to certify that his | :17:06. | :17:08. | |
office is acting independently and he says no. | :17:09. | :17:17. | |
Without Parsons confirming that his office was independent and undue | :17:18. | :17:21. | |
influence, the money from one of the fund's biggest donors would be at | :17:22. | :17:26. | |
risk. At least $250 million was on the line. If the United States | :17:27. | :17:31. | |
withheld the cash it would be hugely damaging to the Fund. Pressure was | :17:32. | :17:36. | |
growing. John Parsons wrote to his bosses complaining about harassment, | :17:37. | :17:43. | |
intimidation and retaliation. It is clear that your true intention is to | :17:44. | :17:46. | |
weaken the function, simply because you don't like what we find and | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
report upon. The following morning he was sacked. Even some Fund | :17:52. | :17:53. | |
supporters were shocked. This is somebody, whose job was to | :17:54. | :18:01. | |
ferret out waste and abuse and he did a very good job of it. It was | :18:02. | :18:08. | |
embarrassing to the fund. And you know conveniently letting go of the | :18:09. | :18:10. | |
person who exposed these problems was you know based on the evidence | :18:11. | :18:15. | |
at the time akin to a hatchet job. Simply not true. It's simply not | :18:16. | :18:21. | |
true but from what I have seen the decision was entirely based on | :18:22. | :18:24. | |
performance and the inspector general's office since he left has | :18:25. | :18:27. | |
actually published more reports, has started more investigations and is | :18:28. | :18:30. | |
better staffed than when he was there. Those are the facts. After Mr | :18:31. | :18:37. | |
Parson's dismissal, that vital US funding was approved. He's now | :18:38. | :18:39. | |
taking legal action for unfair dismissal and defamation. But the | :18:40. | :18:42. | |
Global Fund is fighting the case. Tonight, world leaders are in | :18:43. | :18:46. | |
Washington. The Global Fund wants to raise $15 billion. But should | :18:47. | :18:51. | |
donors, like the UK taxpayer, be worried about their investment? | :18:52. | :18:56. | |
A proportion of every tax dollar that they give can also be lost to | :18:57. | :19:01. | |
fraud and corruption. The main thing is to find the fraud. Fraud will | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
exist. It's that we know how to find it and then that it's transparently | :19:08. | :19:10. | |
shared with the world and those that are responsible are prosecuted. | :19:11. | :19:16. | |
Remember that leaked report into corruption in Cambodia that was | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
expected a year ago? - well the official report was finally | :19:23. | :19:23. | |
published last month. Panorama can reveal there are | :19:24. | :19:29. | |
significant differences between what the investigators wrote in the | :19:30. | :19:31. | |
unpublished version and what the Global Fund now tells the world. | :19:32. | :19:38. | |
For example, the unpublished report recommended the three organisations | :19:39. | :19:42. | |
involved in the corruption should be banned for up to five years. That | :19:43. | :19:47. | |
was gone from the published version. And remember MEDiCAM? Evidence in | :19:48. | :19:55. | |
our leaked report suggested they were involved in four counts of | :19:56. | :20:01. | |
corruption. In the published report, there's only one count left. Page | :20:02. | :20:11. | |
148. It fails to mention the $105,000 supposedly spent on | :20:12. | :20:14. | |
consultants. When inspectors tracked many of them down, they discovered | :20:15. | :20:17. | |
these individuals had not been hired to perform consulting work and did | :20:18. | :20:21. | |
not receive the payments recorded. It looked like a scam. The Global | :20:22. | :20:26. | |
Fund only lost $20,000 because most of the consultants were paid for by | :20:27. | :20:28. | |
the UK taxpayer. It cost us $80,000. MEDiCAM's boss denies the | :20:29. | :20:37. | |
allegations against his organisation. Well, let's just | :20:38. | :20:43. | |
choose one example, did you or did you not? You tell me, this is your | :20:44. | :20:50. | |
chance. Did you or did you not bill more than $100,000 for consultants | :20:51. | :20:54. | |
who didn't do any work for you at all? No. That didn't happen? No, | :20:55. | :20:58. | |
that did not happen. Are you lying to me? I'm not lying. Well, why not | :20:59. | :21:04. | |
tell the truth that's in the report? It's not in the report. We don't | :21:05. | :21:11. | |
know, at the moment, what is the finalisation on the report. We have | :21:12. | :21:14. | |
to see the finalisation report. That was filmed before the Global Fund's | :21:15. | :21:18. | |
report was published. When it was, there was also no mention of the | :21:19. | :21:20. | |
apparently falsified documents being found on Dr Sumony's computer. | :21:21. | :21:26. | |
The fact that a report for a country that is a major recipient of funds | :21:27. | :21:32. | |
of grants is suppressed for almost a year and then apparently the version | :21:33. | :21:36. | |
that is to be released is somewhat less detailed than the original | :21:37. | :21:37. | |
version, that is a cover up. The report has been suppressed. The | :21:38. | :21:53. | |
Executive Director of the Global Fund agreed to an interview in | :21:54. | :21:58. | |
Washington last Friday. We'd told him we wanted to ask about the | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
Inspector General and the Cambodian report. But when I put the | :22:02. | :22:04. | |
questions, he said he couldn't answer all the points. He didn't | :22:05. | :22:07. | |
know why Cambodian allegations had been removed. I would imagine | :22:08. | :22:11. | |
because they found out they were inaccurate or shouldn't be included. | :22:12. | :22:16. | |
Allegations of corruption that directly the UK taxpayer have | :22:17. | :22:19. | |
disappeared before it gets to the final report. Are you concerned | :22:20. | :22:22. | |
about that? Depends on what the Inspector General says. I can't tell | :22:23. | :22:26. | |
you that because I'm not involved in that process. Yesterday, the fund | :22:27. | :22:31. | |
told us the Cambodia report was delayed because fresh evidence | :22:32. | :22:34. | |
emerged a year ago. On the corruption allegations being | :22:35. | :22:37. | |
removed, it said reports were limited to Global Fund grants and | :22:38. | :22:38. | |
confirmed facts. The UK Government says it was warned | :22:39. | :22:45. | |
about potential losses at MEDiCAM, but wasn't given the details. | :22:46. | :22:52. | |
Obviously, I will ask the Global Fund but this is not something I'm | :22:53. | :22:57. | |
aware of. You're aware of it because you've seen a report that I have not | :22:58. | :23:01. | |
seen. While we were in Cambodia, we obtained another report from inside | :23:02. | :23:04. | |
the Global Fund. It was about corruption in Africa - an alleged | :23:05. | :23:10. | |
ten million euro scam. But this is the terrifying bit. It left nearly | :23:11. | :23:14. | |
two million people, who thought they were protected, still at risk from | :23:15. | :23:15. | |
malaria. It was in Burkina Faso. A company | :23:16. | :23:26. | |
with apparently no experience of supplying mosquito nets won the | :23:27. | :23:31. | |
contract to provide two million. The local company took ten million euros | :23:32. | :23:35. | |
but bought cheaper nets from China which hadn't been properly treated | :23:36. | :23:39. | |
with insecticide. The investigation was finished a year ago, but the | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
report still hasn't been released. Are you worried by that? A year | :23:43. | :23:52. | |
since that report was concluded and you still don't know about it? I am | :23:53. | :23:55. | |
worried if there is verified corruption that we don't know about | :23:56. | :23:59. | |
yet. I can't comment on that because I don't know. I haven't seen the | :24:00. | :24:03. | |
report. The Fund replaced the nets and says the Burkina Faso report | :24:04. | :24:06. | |
will be published when the investigation is complete and its | :24:07. | :24:09. | |
standards of disclosure remain exceptionally high. | :24:10. | :24:14. | |
If the Global Fund is imperfect in delaying for three months publishing | :24:15. | :24:19. | |
something, naughty Global Fund, but more naughty the other donors who | :24:20. | :24:22. | |
probably would never publish that stuff at all. | :24:23. | :24:31. | |
Panorama has discovered that other Global Fund reports haven't been | :24:32. | :24:36. | |
published. The investigations are also into corruption and were | :24:37. | :24:39. | |
started more than a year ago but they have not been released. | :24:40. | :24:48. | |
The official expression is potential value at risk. It's an estimate of | :24:49. | :24:55. | |
the Global Fund money that could be lost to fraud. In Burundi, $2.7 | :24:56. | :24:58. | |
million. In the Democratic Republic of Congo, | :24:59. | :25:07. | |
3.3 million. In Ghana, six million. And in Niger, $15 million. So, why | :25:08. | :25:15. | |
haven't the figures been published? Well, unfortunately, there was a | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
significant backlog from the previous inspector general that the | :25:19. | :25:20. | |
current inspector general is working through. They started more than a | :25:21. | :25:24. | |
year ago? You will have to ask the inspector general because it's an | :25:25. | :25:27. | |
independent function. All I know is the inspector general waits until | :25:28. | :25:30. | |
they have verification and accuracy of data, there's a due process that | :25:31. | :25:34. | |
they need to go through. So, where does this leave donors to the Global | :25:35. | :25:37. | |
Fund, including British taxpayers, who have just invested another ?1 | :25:38. | :25:45. | |
billion. You know, this is a huge amount of money and you need to make | :25:46. | :25:48. | |
sure that money from the British taxpayer on my behalf is being spent | :25:49. | :25:54. | |
wisely, rightly, etc, etc. What really matters is firstly that the | :25:55. | :25:57. | |
Fund exposes these things itself, which it has, and secondly that it | :25:58. | :25:58. | |
acts on them. And, in Cambodia, we found an | :25:59. | :26:07. | |
example that shows why transparency is so important. | :26:08. | :26:11. | |
It's Dr Sumony again. His organisation might have been accused | :26:12. | :26:16. | |
of stealing taxpayers' cash a year ago but the aid money is still | :26:17. | :26:18. | |
flowing. Is MEDiCAM still getting money from | :26:19. | :26:26. | |
the Global Fund? After this ongoing investigation, we currently got the | :26:27. | :26:27. | |
second phase. How much is that? This year is 700 | :26:28. | :26:41. | |
over 720,000. So, you have got another $720,000. Ahem. Is that | :26:42. | :26:50. | |
right, even if it is just allegations, should you be given | :26:51. | :26:53. | |
that amount of money, it's not, it seems to me like not learning the | :26:54. | :26:57. | |
lessons. I don't think so. I think, number one, we did not commit that | :26:58. | :27:00. | |
corruption. Number two, there has been a lot of system that, through | :27:01. | :27:03. | |
the Global Fund support, that their financial management system has | :27:04. | :27:08. | |
improved. Despite the allegations, Dr Sumony remains on the Global | :27:09. | :27:11. | |
Fund's management committee in Cambodia. His organisation is still | :27:12. | :27:16. | |
getting the Fund's cash and he is deciding who else gets it. The | :27:17. | :27:20. | |
Global Fund suspended contracts with two companies who admitted paying | :27:21. | :27:25. | |
improper commissions. It says there is now greater scrutiny. It is | :27:26. | :27:30. | |
recovering stolen funds from MEDiCAM but wants to protect services. We | :27:31. | :27:36. | |
don't want to punish the wrong people. As soon as we have an | :27:37. | :27:39. | |
alternative for those individuals, that they don't life-saving services | :27:40. | :27:43. | |
disrupted, then we can take action. That's zero tolerance, that's zero | :27:44. | :27:44. | |
tolerance. Donors like the Bill and Melinda | :27:45. | :27:52. | |
Gates Foundation say the Global Fund is one of the smartest investments | :27:53. | :27:54. | |
they can make to save lives. And we have seen the sort of | :27:55. | :28:04. | |
difference it makes to millions of lives - which is why it is so | :28:05. | :28:09. | |
important the money gets through. Corruption damages trust and makes | :28:10. | :28:15. | |
fools out of donors. But its real impact is felt in places like this | :28:16. | :28:18. | |
because life-saving care is stolen away. The Global Fund is today | :28:19. | :28:28. | |
trying to raise another $15 billion. Everyone agrees with the good work. | :28:29. | :28:33. | |
We just need to be sure that the money gets to the people who need | :28:34. | :28:35. | |
it. | :28:36. | :28:41. |