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Two years ago my world fell apart when my partner took his own life. | :00:12. | :00:19. | |
Now Panorama is helping me investigate the gambling machines he | :00:20. | :00:25. | |
said drove him to suicide. It is a vicious circle, I wish I could stop | :00:26. | :00:29. | |
and get control over. I meet the scientist who can see inside the | :00:30. | :00:35. | |
mind of a gambler. We've got to get people to realise that gambling is a | :00:36. | :00:38. | |
serious disorder. It is not a failure of will. It is a brain | :00:39. | :00:44. | |
disorder which is preyed upon by the gambling industry. I discover an | :00:45. | :00:52. | |
industry divided over the high intensity high-stake gambling on our | :00:53. | :00:56. | |
high streets. I think they are immoral. They are using numerous | :00:57. | :01:01. | |
problems, suicides, people losing control, smashing machines up. A | :01:02. | :01:04. | |
danger to the staff on site. It is just wrong. And the former boss of | :01:05. | :01:09. | |
one of the industry's biggest bookmakers tells me their toll on | :01:10. | :01:13. | |
society is just too great. There is no challenge other than a moral | :01:14. | :01:17. | |
challenge. What if it was one of my children who was addicted? How would | :01:18. | :01:20. | |
I feel? My name is Wendy Bendel and I want | :01:21. | :01:40. | |
people to understand that problem gambling is not just | :01:41. | :01:43. | |
about losing money. It's a compulsion that | :01:44. | :01:47. | |
can destroy families. Lee and I were together | :01:48. | :01:54. | |
for seven years. He wrote a confession blaming | :01:55. | :01:57. | |
a specific type of gambling. My main gambling focus | :01:58. | :02:11. | |
is the machines It's quick and easy to win | :02:12. | :02:13. | |
and to lose in a short I've been this way for so many years | :02:14. | :02:16. | |
and keeping it to myself for so long Lee's gambling spiralled out | :02:17. | :02:22. | |
of control when he started playing electronic roulette on fixed-odds | :02:23. | :02:30. | |
betting terminals known as FOBTs. You can find them in every | :02:31. | :02:35. | |
betting shop in Britain. They offer a dangerous combination | :02:36. | :02:40. | |
of high stakes and the chance And players can lose sight | :02:41. | :02:43. | |
of what's important. I love and support you, Wendy, | :02:44. | :02:53. | |
to be there for you at all times. I know with your help I'll get | :02:54. | :03:02. | |
through this and I will I know how lucky I am to have | :03:03. | :03:05. | |
you in my life. There are three quarters | :03:06. | :03:12. | |
of a million problem or at-risk Two years ago after a heavy gambling | :03:13. | :03:14. | |
session on a FOBT, Lee disappeared. Later that night the police | :03:15. | :03:27. | |
informed me that Lee had been When I phoned there and got | :03:28. | :03:30. | |
the doctor, he told me that Lee had admitted a 20-year gambling | :03:31. | :03:39. | |
addiction and tried to commit That was the first time I had | :03:40. | :03:41. | |
a real awareness of how The day Lee was allowed home, | :03:42. | :03:46. | |
I found a receipt from a betting I looked at it for at least 20 | :03:47. | :03:52. | |
minutes to make sure I wasn't crazy. When I put it in front of him, | :03:53. | :04:01. | |
he went, you're wrong. Look at the time, and he point blank | :04:02. | :04:04. | |
denied it to my face. I thought, why after | :04:05. | :04:12. | |
trying to commit suicide, admitting an addiction, | :04:13. | :04:15. | |
walking out of hospital Three months later, | :04:16. | :04:18. | |
Lee went missing. I texted him saying, | :04:19. | :04:31. | |
have you gambled? And then I got a call | :04:32. | :04:36. | |
from the police telling me to go home because there was a unit | :04:37. | :04:49. | |
waiting for me, so I knew. Lee had lost almost ?1,000 playing | :04:50. | :04:52. | |
table roulette in a casino. I was 100% adamant he would not do | :04:53. | :05:05. | |
that to me and to the kids. Then I had to identify | :05:06. | :05:14. | |
his body and that was Stories like mine are making | :05:15. | :05:17. | |
some in the gambling And that includes the former | :05:18. | :05:29. | |
boss of one of the UK's They use profits from FOBTs | :05:30. | :05:34. | |
to expand across Britain. The people who know about FOBTs, | :05:35. | :05:45. | |
who've watched and observed and researched how FOBTs are used | :05:46. | :05:48. | |
say that they are addictive, say that they are dangerous, | :05:49. | :05:54. | |
and all the evidence points to those studies and those | :05:55. | :05:59. | |
comments being accurate. The amount of money that is invested | :06:00. | :06:04. | |
in them on an annual basis across the UK is, | :06:05. | :06:09. | |
or should be, frightening. FOBTs earn the industry | :06:10. | :06:16. | |
?1.7 billion a year and that generates almost ?400 million | :06:17. | :06:21. | |
in gambling duty for the Government. I'm heading to London to find out | :06:22. | :06:26. | |
what it is about FOBTs that makes Like Lee, Tony Franklin has been | :06:27. | :06:29. | |
a gambler all his adult life. He says on-screen alerts | :06:30. | :06:39. | |
and the new rules governing maximum bets, all introduced last year, | :06:40. | :06:42. | |
are not enough to help those My whole life centred | :06:43. | :06:45. | |
around these machines. I would play FOBTs at the expense | :06:46. | :06:54. | |
of friendships, at the expense of my relationships, | :06:55. | :06:57. | |
be it work, be it my wife, Ultimately it was my life, | :06:58. | :07:02. | |
so you just get so immersed Look, here's four receipts | :07:03. | :07:09. | |
and in the space of 59 There was only one guy | :07:10. | :07:20. | |
in the shop anyway. Eight minutes later I've blown | :07:21. | :07:32. | |
the ?500 and I've said, And this is you going up | :07:33. | :07:37. | |
with your card? Just over half an hour later I've | :07:38. | :07:40. | |
asked for another ?1,000. And then I've blown that | :07:41. | :07:45. | |
?1,000 in 12 minutes Did you have that | :07:46. | :07:48. | |
money in your account? Three-and-a-half grand | :07:49. | :07:52. | |
in a betting shop? Sorry, who has | :07:53. | :07:56. | |
three-and-a-half grand? It's an absolutely | :07:57. | :07:59. | |
horrendous addiction. Has there been times where you've | :08:00. | :08:04. | |
gone in and you've lost that amount of money and then thought, | :08:05. | :08:07. | |
I can't go back, I can't tell my wife, I can't tell my family, | :08:08. | :08:10. | |
I'm better not being here? Last summer, after having lost | :08:11. | :08:18. | |
?4,500 and not feeling able, I just collapsed and I had those | :08:19. | :08:25. | |
thoughts for a brief moment where I thought, you know, | :08:26. | :08:29. | |
I would be better jumping I can't bear to think | :08:30. | :08:31. | |
what was going through his head and the pain he must have been in | :08:32. | :08:47. | |
to end his life. The Association of British | :08:48. | :08:54. | |
Bookmakers declined to be interviewed by me for this programme | :08:55. | :08:58. | |
but told Panorama: The fixed-odds betting terminal | :08:59. | :09:20. | |
offer a choice of games of chance, David, you'll have to explain it, | :09:21. | :09:22. | |
because I'm new to this machine. I asked one of Britain's top | :09:23. | :09:32. | |
statisticians to explain the chance Well, there's already a lot | :09:33. | :09:37. | |
of credit on the machine. We've got ?170, so let's be quite | :09:38. | :09:46. | |
high betters here and let's put It takes about 20 seconds | :09:47. | :09:49. | |
to get an answer. We'll put ?45 on this spin, | :09:50. | :09:58. | |
and we've... If we'd got one of those | :09:59. | :10:13. | |
numbers come up, we'd So they pay out 97.3% | :10:14. | :10:29. | |
of everything that's staked, which is much better than almost | :10:30. | :10:34. | |
any other form of Usually better than the lottery | :10:35. | :10:36. | |
or anything like that. So you may think that this | :10:37. | :10:42. | |
is actually a good deal And the problem is that that return | :10:43. | :10:45. | |
of 97%, whatever, that's fine But the problem is people can't | :10:46. | :10:52. | |
afford to gamble long enough to get When players suddenly realise | :10:53. | :10:58. | |
the scale of their losses, some take their frustration out | :10:59. | :11:05. | |
on the machines. FOBTs have earned a reputation | :11:06. | :11:14. | |
for sparking violence, but the industry insists it doesn't | :11:15. | :11:18. | |
have higher rates of crime relative Nevertheless, last year one major | :11:19. | :11:21. | |
bookmakers chain recorded over One of the most dangerous strategies | :11:22. | :11:29. | |
of all is to chase your losses, to increase the amount | :11:30. | :11:38. | |
you're betting in order to try to recoup your | :11:39. | :11:40. | |
previous losses. The spread of possible | :11:41. | :11:44. | |
losses to gains just grows David believes this promise of high | :11:45. | :11:46. | |
returns may actually encourage But again I'm using the phrase, | :11:47. | :11:53. | |
I'm lucky. I'm supposed to be a serious | :11:54. | :12:04. | |
scientist and I start talking Wasn't a red, wasn't any | :12:05. | :12:07. | |
of these numbers. Watching someone like David get | :12:08. | :12:13. | |
so absorbed made me realise that the solution to problem | :12:14. | :12:19. | |
gambling isn't just about education. The machine is connecting | :12:20. | :12:24. | |
to something much deeper. It also tells me about the numbers | :12:25. | :12:28. | |
that have come up in the past. In the last nine spins, | :12:29. | :12:33. | |
I think 29 has come up three times. Actually those numbers | :12:34. | :12:42. | |
are completely useless. It's of no value whatsoever to tell | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
you what's happened in the past. It can't help you in | :12:45. | :13:00. | |
your betting at all. It is not only unnecessary | :13:01. | :13:02. | |
information, it could very well be misleading because it might make | :13:03. | :13:04. | |
people, including me, think that somehow there's | :13:05. | :13:06. | |
a pattern that I could spot. Somehow I could beat the system, | :13:07. | :13:08. | |
beat the odds. There is even a name | :13:09. | :13:12. | |
for it - apophenia. It's a great name and it | :13:13. | :13:13. | |
means seeing patterns The spinning of the wheel, | :13:14. | :13:15. | |
the noises, the bounces, all help to draw in the gambler | :13:16. | :13:21. | |
but have no effect on the result. Gamblers will argue | :13:22. | :13:24. | |
they have the secret to make this big win that nobody else has done, | :13:25. | :13:32. | |
even though they are losing and losing and continually chasing | :13:33. | :13:35. | |
the money they've put in. So are the bookies in danger | :13:36. | :13:40. | |
of putting profits before people? There are a number of industries | :13:41. | :13:45. | |
where the moral dilemma is more So the tobacco industry, | :13:46. | :13:48. | |
the drinks industry, the food industry and | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
the gambling industry. None of us who've experience | :13:55. | :13:58. | |
of working this those industries have been sufficiently strong | :13:59. | :14:03. | |
on personalising that moral challenge and thinking | :14:04. | :14:06. | |
about the what if. What if it was one of my children | :14:07. | :14:09. | |
who was addicted? How would I feel about how | :14:10. | :14:12. | |
we promote our offering? The Association of British | :14:13. | :14:21. | |
Bookmakers said: Place your bets, | :14:22. | :14:52. | |
ladies and gentlemen. No longer confined to casinos, | :14:53. | :14:53. | |
gambling has exploded into our lives, advertised | :14:54. | :15:01. | |
everywhere, available on every high Excluding the National Lottery, | :15:02. | :15:04. | |
over a quarter of the adult population gambles, generating | :15:05. | :15:12. | |
billions of pounds for the industry. But now scientists are beginning | :15:13. | :15:21. | |
to reveal why some people find I want you to have a seat | :15:22. | :15:24. | |
on the scanner bed there. I want to understand what happens | :15:25. | :15:32. | |
inside the brain of a FOBT addict? We arranged for recovering gambler | :15:33. | :15:40. | |
Tony Franklin to join a unique experiment by one of the world's | :15:41. | :15:42. | |
leading experts on addiction, This will be the first time anyone | :15:43. | :15:45. | |
has played something similar to a fixed odds betting terminal | :15:46. | :15:53. | |
from inside a MRI scanner. The professor says it will reveal | :15:54. | :15:58. | |
what's happening in Tony's brain Can I spend it all on the first | :15:59. | :16:01. | |
spin? Gambling addiction is not | :16:02. | :16:10. | |
a failure of will. It is a brain disorder | :16:11. | :16:13. | |
which is preyed upon by Honestly I can feel my heartbeat | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
rising just by looking Once you become addicted it is very, | :16:16. | :16:20. | |
very hard to stop because you have changed your brain - | :16:21. | :16:27. | |
addiction is a brain that has changed to become entrained | :16:28. | :16:32. | |
to the desires of the gambling. We are going to start | :16:33. | :16:37. | |
the roulette tasks, Tony. The team had written a computer | :16:38. | :16:41. | |
programme for Tony, giving him three of his favourite bets to choose | :16:42. | :16:45. | |
from and a fictional ?1,000 credit. They want to see how his brain | :16:46. | :16:53. | |
responds to gambling and compare how it reacts to winning and losing | :16:54. | :16:56. | |
in real time. When Tony is doing his task and he's | :16:57. | :17:03. | |
looking at the roulette wheel and he's making a decision to bet, | :17:04. | :17:06. | |
parts of the brain get turned And we think that there's probably | :17:07. | :17:09. | |
a chemical basis to that. So, that is what we are expecting | :17:10. | :17:18. | |
to see - the habit centres are overactive in people | :17:19. | :17:21. | |
with gambling compared with normal When I saw Tony looking | :17:22. | :17:23. | |
at the roulette wheel, You know, he said, "I can | :17:24. | :17:29. | |
feel my heart rate going up already" Tony is a nice, intelligent, | :17:30. | :17:34. | |
well-educated man, but yet he just turned and it was like that switch | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
went and he didn't care. Tony is lying in the scanner, | :17:39. | :17:46. | |
he is looking at the roulette wheel and we've asked him | :17:47. | :17:51. | |
to place his bet. And the brain is not very active, | :17:52. | :17:53. | |
maybe a little bit here he is thinking "what shall I do," | :17:54. | :17:59. | |
but it's pretty calm. Contrast that with what | :18:00. | :18:02. | |
happens in the next one. Now here, this is when the wheel | :18:03. | :18:04. | |
is spinning. That's a huge difference | :18:05. | :18:06. | |
from there to there. But that's in a matter | :18:07. | :18:12. | |
of seconds, as well, Exactly, absolutely, | :18:13. | :18:15. | |
yes. So here, we see the visual system - | :18:16. | :18:19. | |
the back of the brain He is watching really closely, | :18:20. | :18:22. | |
he wants that ball bearing to come And now we look at the emotional | :18:23. | :18:26. | |
regions and these are This is the anterior singular | :18:27. | :18:34. | |
cortex, this is the insular and these are the two areas | :18:35. | :18:37. | |
of the brain which makes sense of emotions, they generate | :18:38. | :18:40. | |
the emotion he is feeling - And here we see, | :18:41. | :18:43. | |
a very similar picture. In fact, the only real | :18:44. | :18:57. | |
difference between winning and anticipating is this area here, | :18:58. | :18:59. | |
and this is an area where I think we see | :19:00. | :19:01. | |
the sense of satisfaction. But overall, winning, | :19:02. | :19:07. | |
and waiting to see if you've won, the anticipation, they're both | :19:08. | :19:16. | |
pretty much the same, and that's a really key | :19:17. | :19:22. | |
point about gambling. It's not just the winning that | :19:23. | :19:24. | |
counts, it's the taking part, and the taking part repeatedly | :19:25. | :19:27. | |
when you don't win is as activating And when you are sitting at a fixed | :19:28. | :19:30. | |
odds terminal, you are getting this every 20 seconds, | :19:31. | :19:41. | |
so you can have hundreds of them. in the end it kind of becomes | :19:42. | :19:44. | |
habitual, it becomes addictive. The Association of British | :19:45. | :19:48. | |
Bookmakers told us 99.5% of people If Professor Nutt is right, | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
and that Tony's brain has been altered by his gambling experience, | :19:52. | :20:09. | |
then I think I am beginning to understand why Lee, | :20:10. | :20:12. | |
despite all the promises he made, They don't care whether they | :20:13. | :20:14. | |
are winning or losing, it is just the complete hold | :20:15. | :20:25. | |
of placing the gamble, So, that is scary because they | :20:26. | :20:27. | |
are not even gambling for the end product, | :20:28. | :20:31. | |
they are gambling because they don't know what else to do | :20:32. | :20:33. | |
and that's habitual. It must be hell for FOBT | :20:34. | :20:40. | |
addicts like Lee and Tony when the opportunity to gamble | :20:41. | :20:44. | |
is all around them. Retail bookmakers have | :20:45. | :20:47. | |
re-focused their business to concentrate on the High Street | :20:48. | :20:49. | |
and now make more profit The law limits each outlet | :20:50. | :20:51. | |
to a maximum of four FOBT machines, but with more bookmakers come more | :20:52. | :21:00. | |
machines and local authorities If you look down here, | :21:01. | :21:02. | |
in just a few hundred yards you've got three Paddy Powers, | :21:03. | :21:14. | |
three Ladbrokes, two William Hills. Now, why are there so many | :21:15. | :21:16. | |
Paddy Powers in one place? Because they can only have four | :21:17. | :21:19. | |
of these terminals in one shop, It's about picking up money | :21:20. | :21:22. | |
from people who are coming in and The Association of British | :21:23. | :21:27. | |
bookmakers says shops only open "where there is demand" but Newham | :21:28. | :21:33. | |
has asked the Government to limit the number of betting | :21:34. | :21:36. | |
shops on the high street. 92 other local authorities | :21:37. | :21:41. | |
are backing the call. When councils across the country | :21:42. | :21:46. | |
of different political hues are saying that we have got to stop | :21:47. | :21:48. | |
this, then the Government should listen to that and do what's best | :21:49. | :21:52. | |
for local communities. Because across the country | :21:53. | :21:56. | |
they are causing problems The Government can do it | :21:57. | :21:58. | |
without changing any legislation, they could do it tomorrow | :21:59. | :22:01. | |
if they wanted to. The Government sets the rules | :22:02. | :22:09. | |
and prize limits for the machines together with the Gambling | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
Commission, who told Panorama... What the Government needs | :22:14. | :22:35. | |
to recognise is that all addiction is not just about the individual | :22:36. | :22:38. | |
and their vulnerabilities but also about the product | :22:39. | :22:40. | |
and the environment which that Despite the power of addiction, | :22:41. | :22:42. | |
some people are able Matt Zarb-Cousin, an ex-gambling | :22:43. | :22:48. | |
addict, knew the FOBT machines well. I got addicted to these machines | :22:49. | :22:57. | |
when I was 16, so I was underage when I first went | :22:58. | :23:00. | |
into a betting shop. And during that time I got | :23:01. | :23:02. | |
into thousands of pounds of debt and completely, | :23:03. | :23:06. | |
nearly ruined my life. I was suicidal at one point, | :23:07. | :23:08. | |
and thankfully had support from my family to get through it, | :23:09. | :23:13. | |
but I know how addictive these machines can be, | :23:14. | :23:16. | |
and had they not been in betting shops I don't think I would ever | :23:17. | :23:25. | |
have got addicted to gambling. They are known as the crack | :23:26. | :23:27. | |
cocaine of gambling? The crack cocaine of gambling, | :23:28. | :23:30. | |
a label it deserves really, because they are the most addictive | :23:31. | :23:32. | |
form of gambling and they're the form of gambling that problem | :23:33. | :23:35. | |
gamblers lose the most on, spend the most time on, | :23:36. | :23:37. | |
and when you consider that between 10 and 20% of problem | :23:38. | :23:40. | |
gamblers have contemplated suicide, It's an epidemic really | :23:41. | :23:42. | |
of fixed odds betting terminals on the high street, | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
turning public spaces He blames the high street bookmakers | :23:46. | :23:47. | |
for deliberately trying to confuse the issue, | :23:48. | :23:57. | |
deflecting blame away The bookies say that problem | :23:58. | :23:59. | |
gambling is about the person and not the product, | :24:00. | :24:08. | |
they say that problem gamblers gamble on multiple products, | :24:09. | :24:11. | |
and that is true. I gambled, like Lee, | :24:12. | :24:15. | |
I gambled on fixed odds betting terminals and I put | :24:16. | :24:18. | |
a football accumulator on, and I bought a lottery ticket, | :24:19. | :24:21. | |
but I lost most of my money, and spent most of my time | :24:22. | :24:24. | |
on the fixed odds betting terminal The reputational damage FOBTs cause | :24:25. | :24:27. | |
is dividing the industry. The owner of Britain's biggest | :24:28. | :24:39. | |
casino, someone who earns a very good living from gambling, | :24:40. | :24:41. | |
objects to the way the book makers The betting industry | :24:42. | :24:46. | |
is adopting a lot of the techniques that | :24:47. | :24:50. | |
were developed by the spin doctors through the tobacco, | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
the lung cancer, global warming. It's all those techniques of denial, | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
then saying there's no evidence, then saying the evidence | :24:58. | :25:00. | |
is inconclusive, then paying All with the intention | :25:01. | :25:02. | |
of delaying the inevitable If you're making thirty-odd million | :25:03. | :25:11. | |
pounds a week from a product that is insanely wrong on the high | :25:12. | :25:15. | |
street, you will defend it to the Nth degree | :25:16. | :25:18. | |
and that is what they are doing. I could have FOBTs in | :25:19. | :25:21. | |
here if I wanted to. I choose not to because I think | :25:22. | :25:23. | |
they're immoral. And when you put in a really hard | :25:24. | :25:25. | |
gambling product, and by that I mean high stake, fast gambling product | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
in a very easy to access ambient gambling location like the high | :25:32. | :25:35. | |
street, and then you try to attract customers that tend to be younger, | :25:36. | :25:39. | |
less educated, you've got You've got a recipe for making a lot | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
of money, but a recipe for disaster The Association of British | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
Bookmakers said: The former chairman of Paddy Power | :25:49. | :26:16. | |
admits the industry's pursuit of profit has been part | :26:17. | :26:19. | |
of the problem. He believes that only a tightening | :26:20. | :26:23. | |
of regulation will bring about change, and responsibility | :26:24. | :26:28. | |
for that lies with the Government. Essentially this comes down | :26:29. | :26:33. | |
to tension between the needs of the industry and the | :26:34. | :26:35. | |
needs of Government. The greater weight, in my opinion, | :26:36. | :26:38. | |
sits with the cabinet, sits with the people | :26:39. | :26:47. | |
who are making decisions, or who can make decisions to shift | :26:48. | :26:50. | |
the balance away from FOBTs being a very rich source | :26:51. | :26:52. | |
of exchequer returns, And also, curiously, | :26:53. | :26:54. | |
doing financial damage because, as a result of the social | :26:55. | :27:06. | |
damage that's been caused, there are people who are not | :27:07. | :27:08. | |
functioning properly, not able to get to work, | :27:09. | :27:10. | |
losing money and becoming That's why there needs to be a sea | :27:11. | :27:13. | |
change, either to get rid of FOBTs all together, | :27:14. | :27:18. | |
and that nobody has them, or that you reduce significantly | :27:19. | :27:23. | |
what people can spend. And you reduce that from ?100 max | :27:24. | :27:28. | |
to ?2 or ?10. It's still as addictive, | :27:29. | :27:33. | |
but it becomes less addictive Meanwhile, gambling | :27:34. | :27:35. | |
addicts like Tony face So, on Friday I had | :27:36. | :27:44. | |
a relapse and lost. ..Lost all my money | :27:45. | :27:59. | |
playing roulette. You can be 364 days free, | :28:00. | :28:01. | |
but that one day when you are not strong enough it's waiting, | :28:02. | :28:10. | |
and it got me on Friday. Thanks to Tony and the others I've | :28:11. | :28:14. | |
met, I now understand Lee's torment. I hope the Government is now | :28:15. | :28:18. | |
going to listen. Listen to the Local Authorities | :28:19. | :28:22. | |
and Gambling Commissions as they call for tougher | :28:23. | :28:25. | |
regulation on FOBTS. I'm not convinced the industry | :28:26. | :28:28. | |
will get there on its own. Get your pills! | :28:29. | :28:59. | |
Side-effects guaranteed. 'I'm a doctor. | :29:00. | :29:01. | |
I believe that many common illnesses Patients want a quick fix. | :29:02. | :29:08. | |
We need a revolution. | :29:09. | :29:12. |